[00:29] The default gnome-panel conf looks interesting. [00:29] Somewhat close to unity, yet unique. [03:13] i have 11.04 and with a recent update it always hangs when i am booting or a get a blank black screen, how can i fix it? [03:15] faeln: /topic [03:15] faeln, I had a similar problem and fixed it by using Xserver from the xorg-edgers PPA [03:15] *not fix, worked around [03:17] daek, do you have the command for the PPA? [03:18] faeln: the command, and instructions you should read first, are at https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa [03:19] ty === Amaranth__ is now known as Amaranth === Hew_ is now known as Hew [04:12] I'm attempting to update-manager -d from maverick but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.", is this a known issue, or something specific to my system? [04:19] The error message is quite vague, I've had a look at xorg packages and other things but haven't been able to determine the cause. === KM0201__ is now known as KM0201 [05:18] heya python2.7 missing glib? [05:18] is this normal? [07:40] so is there a decent way to downgrade back to maverick? [07:41] no, downgrade isn't supported afaik, never has been. [07:42] bummer... [07:42] * slyrus should have waited a while longer before upgrading to natty [09:09] after btrfs subvolume set-default , how to make it back === zniavre_ is now known as Teuze === Teuze is now known as zniavre [09:41] I'm attempting to update-manager -d from maverick but I get "E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.", is this a known issue, or something specific to my system? [09:42] this means that the repository is in a so inconsistent state that update-manager can't figure out a sane way to upgrade, wait a few hours or a day and try again [09:45] thanks yofel, I have been getting this for 24h now, I'll see if it's any better tomorrow [10:55] hi, yesterday X failed to start today again. yesterday I removed those quiet splash vt... and it works! today it stopped working, any help? [11:12] edgy: are you perhaps on amd64? [11:13] geser: exactly [11:14] see if you are also affected by bug 709977 [11:14] Launchpad bug 709977 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu Natty) "Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in RemoveDevice() - segfault at 1010 error 4 in evdev_drv.so" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709977 [11:17] geser: yes, it seems this is exactly what I am facing let me downgrade and test === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:20] I had a problem where I couldnt install grub-pc, now switched to 11.04 . There are even more packages not installing, any idea? http://paste.ubuntu.com/560054/ [11:21] cor_r: can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub [11:25] I will reboot now and check geser. thanks and see you [11:28] geser: apparently the directory is non existent?!? [11:29] cor_r: /etc/default/ exists, and if there is no grub file, then grub-pc won't work [11:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/560182/ , yofel , geser [11:30] GRUB_GFXMODE=>>1920x1200-24<< is wrong [11:30] that should be " not >> [11:31] some for << [11:31] and remove the -24 [11:31] probably the same in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT (line 9) too [11:32] not sure, that is properly quoted, so maybe uvesafb wants it like that [11:32] I'm happy with default vesafb here though [11:36] ok now my bootup splash works again, but that was not the problem^^ , it wont install : linux-image-2.6.38-1-generic [11:36] memtest86+ [11:36] ubuntu-standard [11:36] grub-pc [11:36] linux-image-generic [11:36] linux-generic [11:36] thx so far though :) [11:37] run "sudo dpkg --configure --pending" to finish the installation of those packages [11:42] thank you very much geser, works perfectly now :) === vivid` is now known as vivid [12:18] what is going on with the "grab tab" ? has this been remedied or in the process ? [12:26] good day all [12:31] coz_, as far as I know, it's a feature. [12:32] Daekdroom, yes mm but it is definitly an interferance at this point... I am wondering if ,, at the very least...it can be transparent.. it would then not be a "visual" bug [12:56] anyone else getting redraw bugs in emacs? [13:47] Hi all, is it possible to run natty (with unity) in Virtualbox? Googling gives me mixed -perhaps outdated- information. [13:48] Chelsea_, what version of vbox. [13:50] 3.2.12 [13:55] Chelsea_, not sure, apparently version 4 has some more advanced stuff, perhaps try in #vbox [13:58] ok, thanks [13:58] Does it work in vbox 4? [14:23] o/ [14:24] hey BUGabundo [14:47] apport has started asking for passwords about 3 or 4 times during each bug report - very annoying [15:45] can someone using nouveau please pastebin there xorg.conf [15:45] sec [15:45] MickStep: $ pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [15:45] Unable to read from: /etc/X11/xorg.conf [15:46] usually you have no xorg.conf with nouveau [15:48] yofel: That's what I thought, when my X broke after an update, I disabled nvidia in jockey and deleted my xorg.conf, and my X is still broken [15:48] looking at the welcome message though it appears this problem is a widespread one? [15:49] MickStep: lsmod shows nouveau as loaded? [15:49] also, you'll need nvidia-current from x-updates PPA if you want to use that [15:49] that has the current beta driver [15:49] That souns like the ticket [15:50] yofel: why on earth would they ship X that will break the nvidia driver in the repos but not ship the working driver too [15:51] they didn't bother to package the beta driver for the main archive? And there's a bug in the nvidia packaging that doesn't prevent it from being installed with an incompatible x-server [15:52] well, more like the proprietary driver has a lower priority than fixing the default drivers [15:53] yofel: still why ship a package that definitely wont work in favour of one that might be buggy. [15:53] erm, the x-server was upgraded, it's just that the nvidia-driver wasn't updated yet because it's not important enough to get an updat [15:54] *update [15:54] and they're not going to remove it just because it's broken [15:54] acutally, that it's not being removed by the x-server update is already a known bug [15:55] welcome to alpha [15:56] it's still worth it I guess, is there a twitter feed or anything where you can get a heads up about update that will break your system? [15:56] see /topic, there *IS* a warning about X being in a broken state [15:57] http://feeds.ubuntu-nl.org/NattyChanges MickStep [15:57] rss feed [15:58] thanks [16:01] Am I losing it or didn't the comman used to be add-apt-repository and now it's apt-add-repository? [16:02] add-apt-repository [16:02] as it always been [16:03] not on my natty system [16:03] Now that I tested it, apparently both commands work. [16:03] ;) [16:04] Daekdroom: on mine the add first command no longer exists] [16:11] hm, apt-add-repository is a symlink to the other one here [16:11] 1179725 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2011-01-25 14:57 /usr/bin/apt-add-repository -> add-apt-repository [16:18] I still havent managed to fix my Xserver, but attempting nouveau or nvidia from the X updates ppa [16:18] *by [16:18] any suggestions how I can investigate further what the issue might be? [16:35] humm TeamViewer runs on wine :\\ wth I though it was native [16:40] BUGabundo: it runs very well on wine, if that helps you. [16:41] teamviewer is great imo [16:48] gpc: been running so far [16:48] installing TeamViewer so I can access a remove Windows7 PC, to access a Virtualbox running Ubuntu LiveCD to recover a file in Wubi :S [16:49] wow [16:49] Haha. [17:11] can't mount smb with root [17:12] nice bug :( [17:17] I am completely at a loss of how to fix my Xserver, currently it should be using nouveau, gdm is started and yet displayed on my screen is an unrelated kernel error spat out a second after the bootloader, and I can't open up a terminal with ctrl-alt-f1 [17:17] I am sshed in and all the services I run are running fine [17:18] I think it's a far more intrinsic problem with X than just a driver issue, is it possible to roll back to the previous X using apt? [17:26] hola [17:27] alguien [17:27] habla español [17:27] !es [17:27] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [17:28] hello [17:28] en pap [17:36] hi could someone please tell me if forked-daapd is available by default in natty? [17:37] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/forked-daapd this kinda suggests it, but i'm not sure if those are submitted packages or if that's just a work in progress [17:40] kaddi: submitted, but only in the development release [17:41] ok [17:41] but chances are it'll be part of natty when it is released? [17:41] success :D [17:42] kaddi: it already is [17:42] k, so it's part of natty but not maverick is what you were saying? :p [17:42] yes [17:42] hm, actually... [17:43] let's hope it will be, as the package failed to build :/ [17:43] yeah, i saw that too [17:44] trying to help someone set it up on maverick 64bit atm.. I was considering an early upgrade to natty.. but a) it's still too soon and b) it's not building atm.. === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [18:52] so im having this problem installing deb files (opera and google chrome). when i click on them they open with software center and than they pretend to install for like 15 seconds. after that they just stop. when i try to install via terminal this is what i get:root@ubuntu:/home/noroot/Downloads# aptitude install /home/noroot/Downloads/opera_11.00.1176_amd64.deb [18:52] Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "/home/noroot/Downloads" [18:52] Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "/home/noroot/Downloads" [18:52] No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. [18:52] 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 421 not upgraded. [18:52] Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used. [18:52] [18:52] root@ubuntu:/home/noroot/Downloads# [18:53] galamar: apt-get / aptitude don't support local files, use 'dpkg -i ' [18:53] you don't use apitute [18:53] you use .... what yofel said [18:54] and you DON'T run ROOT in ubuntu dude !!! [19:00] okay and also it seem ubuntu software center fails in !every! action............ and yeah i know that i just did that for quick copy of the scripts and my root terminal is faster to access [19:01] galamar, install gdebi [19:03] okay... also my mozilla ff's flash plugins freak out on some web pages (the properties window on facebook game mafia wars). i was wondering if maybe i have something conflicting? [19:05] galamar, could you describe freak out. [19:06] galamar, give me a link where this happens [19:06] random parts flashing whiting out scattered graphics type of things. [19:08] is this only happening in natty [19:08] the only place i have noticed the problem is on that one part of (mafia wars) and the entire game (dragons of atlantis) both are facebook games on my profile so i dont think i can link the page [19:08] password [19:10] thats why i want to try opera and chrome to see if they work with the pages. (and i would love to get netflix working.) [19:12] I suspect the cpu and ram is overdriven on the facebook links, do you have conky or a way to confirm use [19:12] nit-wit im not sure what you mean.?? [19:14] is there a way to check my box for conflicted packages? === alex88_ is now known as alex88 [19:21] My natty VM died after updating [19:21] :( [19:22] man [19:22] CIFS is soooo bad [19:23] akshatj, virtualbox? [19:23] bluefrog: yes [19:24] akshatj, only the GUI. works ok otherwise. must use recovery mode though to start with [19:25] yeah, i am using it now [19:26] bluefrog: is a bug reported about it? [19:26] akshatj, dunno. just finished updated [19:26] user [19:28] Are you guys able to summon gnome-do in natty? [19:29] Omega, no [19:29] Omega, with the icon clicked yes though [19:37] * BUGabundo stabs libc6 [19:37] Omega: works here [19:37] but I have no composite [19:37] so it's a mess [21:28] is anywhere a list with a daily updated status about broken features or packages in 11.04? [21:28] so i can prevent my system to update to the death? [22:09] I need to install Natty packages on my UNE 10.10 -- how do I do this? [22:09] (specific packages) [22:10] can't it be from a PPA? [22:10] well, I would add natty repos [22:10] The PPA has the same version according to the web. [22:10] and manually upgrade just those [22:10] then remove the archive [22:10] Okay, how do I do that on UNE? [22:11] The specific packages are librxtx-java, arduino-core, and arduino. [22:11] same as in any debian distro [22:11] add it to sources.list [22:11] I'm in a class, and the teacher's about to use the software. [22:11] What specifically do I add to sources.list ? [22:12] aahahahaahahahahahahaha [22:12] why don't you ask him? [22:12] I found sources.list at least, it's in /etc/apt/ [22:12] Because he is a Windows user. [22:12] And is teaching the IDE, not how to set it up. :-( [22:12] isn't he their to teach you ? [22:12] lol [22:12] ok ok [22:12] but why natty? [22:12] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1622981 [22:12] if you have NO idea of what you are doing [22:12] They said it works. [22:13] So I kinda need to get this working. [22:13] adding different repos is a dangerous thing [22:13] sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list [22:13] add [22:13] deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt natty main restricted universe multiverse [22:13] open synaptic [22:14] press update [22:14] and then install only the packages and depencies you need [22:14] then remove that repo and update package list again Mathuin [22:14] Okay, used vi to update the file and used apt-get update. [22:14] same [22:14] what ever you feel confortable with [22:15] Thank you very much. [22:15] When it's done, I will remove that line and re-run apt-get update, and it won't delete the ones we added? [22:16] no [22:16] Okay. [22:16] behare those being development packages [22:16] they can work or kill kittens [22:16] As long as it programs my Arduino before it goes on a kitten-killing rampage, I'll consider that acceptable. [22:17] ahaahah [22:17] IT WORKS THANK YOU. [22:17] I appreciate the help. [22:17] one more happy user [22:17] bets on how long till he comes back saying his OS is broken? [22:18] I take 4 min [22:18] anyone else? === eric is now known as Guest3683 [22:32] virtualbox-ose-dkms package is broken. That is sad. [22:32] I better check if there's a bug report on it already [22:34] anyone here tested nxserver on natty? [22:34] no [22:34] but I did last cycle [22:37] BUGabundo: did it work? I keep getting a "No valid sessions found" [22:38] in a popup and then nothing more [22:38] yeah, worked fine for months [22:38] till I got the GTK bug [22:39] where everything is SLOWWWWWWWWW [22:39] it was slow with xfce as well :| [22:52] BUGabundo: is it something to do with unity desktop manager ? [22:52] no idea