[00:01] <Phlosten> anyone know if the terminal server client will do console mode connects?
[00:02] <Phlosten> nvm, there is a tick box for console mode I did not spot before
[01:57] <Phlosten> so Skype on Linux doesn't do video calls? any alternative that does?
[02:01] <head_victim> Should work if you have the latest version
[02:02] <Phlosten> head_victim, ah, there we go
[02:03] <Phlosten> now wondering how to change from 60Hz to 50Hz
[02:05] <head_victim> I had a working webcam installed once. I never bothered putting it back in a reshuffle as I've never used it other than th test if it worked
[02:11] <Phlosten> GUVCView is the tool I needed
[03:00] <Phlosten> nice, just found a great reason to keep the yubikey, lastpass uses them
[05:05] <ikt> user days is over 
[05:05] <ikt> time for some reading O.O
[05:06] <ikt> btw holy sheet it's hot
[05:06] <Phlosten> <3 aircon
[05:07] <ikt> wtb
[05:08] <nisshh> ikt, its 36 C here :|
[05:09] <nisshh> over 45 C in other parts of WA though
[05:13] <ikt> 39 here :/
[05:14] <nisshh> this is screwed, we had a cyclone pass us thismorning and now we have 36 C full sunny wheather, what the hell? :)
[05:29] <ikt> yeah I was expecting perth to get blown away
[05:29] <ikt> didn't happen :<
[05:30] <nisshh> ikt, nah it was only a cat 1, weak cyclone :)
[05:30] <nisshh> it dissipated as it went past perth
[05:30] <nisshh> we ended up just getting thunderstorms
[05:31] <ikt> :<
[05:31] <ikt> oh well
[05:31] <ikt> back to watching egypt implode :P
[05:31] <nisshh> ikt, 'expecting' or 'hoping'? :)
[05:31] <nisshh> heh
[05:32] <ikt> :D
[05:32] <ikt> somewhat not nice of me to enjoy watching disasters 
[05:33] <Phlosten> damn Egyptian government
[05:34] <ikt> wasn't there a wikileak think linked earlier?
[05:34] <Phlosten> I just had a tech from Egypt setting up a satellite connection for me in Mauritania, and I need to contact him for some info
[05:34] <ikt> the egyption president is leaving it up to god to decide the next leader :////
[05:35] <nisshh> heh, yep
[05:35] <Phlosten> where god = angry people with sticks?
[05:36] <ikt> http://bikyamasr.com/wordpress/?p=23348
[05:36] <ikt> haha
[05:39] <nisshh> heh
[05:55] <ikt> anyone know what paul gears nick is?
[05:56] <ikt> brb
[07:04] <ikt> hey
[07:04] <ikt> can anyone try and login here:
[07:04] <ikt> http://ikt.id.au/?p=333
[07:04] <ikt> register/login do whatever
[07:07] <Phlosten> i think si
[07:07] <Phlosten> so
[07:08] <Phlosten> ikt, i received a password via email
[07:10] <head_victim> ikt: btw, Paul Gear = blahdeblah 
[07:12] <Guest81145> sorry my connection dropped
[07:22] <ikt> ah it's not the main links
[07:22] <ikt> http://ikt.id.au/wp-login.php?redirect_to=http://ikt.id.au/%3Fp%3D333
[07:22] <ikt> anything that involves a redirect gets blocked
[07:54] <firtvid20> Hey, anyone here?
[07:56] <head_victim> In and out a little
[07:56] <head_victim> What can we do for you
[08:01] <firtvid20> I'd like some of those Ubuntu stickers (as noted in the newsletter). Paul was saying that someone could ship the stickers and a ubuntu Maverick disc?
[08:02] <head_victim> Ah yeah, just shoot him a quick email would be the best bet so he can keep track of stuff
[08:03] <head_victim> Just saw it, good work :D
[08:05] <firtvid20> I just only figured out how to use the mailing list
[08:06] <firtvid20> I though you had to completely use email for it, then I found that I was subscribed to it using Google groups
[08:06] <head_victim> Oh ok, I've only ever used the email component so I'm not sure how that works on the other end. But it looks like it's worked out
[08:07] <sagaci> hey
[08:08] <head_victim> Gday sagaci 
[08:08] <firtvid20> Hello
[08:08] <sagaci> what's happening
[08:13] <firtvid20> Wait a minute, there are 3D Ubuntu stickers?!
[08:14] <firtvid20> Hmm..
[08:14] <firtvid20> Don't see them on Carnonical's Store
[08:19] <head_victim> firtvid20: they are just little bubble type ones
[08:19] <firtvid20> Oh
[08:19] <head_victim> sagaci: just sitting here cleaning up after yesterday and watching the cricket
[08:20] <firtvid20> head_victim: I think the flat stickers would do good for covering up the scratched Dell logo on my laptop
[08:20] <sagaci> was the open day good
[08:21] <head_victim> sagaci: I thought it was pretty good actually, a lower turnout than expected but that's just due to not being able to use the preferred venue due to the floods. There would have been a lot more general public at the original venue.
[08:21] <head_victim> firtvid20: and they have little ones that are good to sick on your windows key to make it a Ubuntu key.
[08:22] <firtvid20> head_victim: Oh cool. I wonder if there is a way to make the Windows key open the Ubuntu Apps menu.
[08:22] <head_victim> firtvid20: it's just the 'meta' key in Ubuntu so you should be able to map it fine
[08:23] <firtvid20> Ok. Might just Google it now
[08:24] <head_victim> firtvid20:  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/use-the-windows-key-for-the-start-menu-in-ubuntu-linux/
[08:24] <firtvid20> head_victim: lol. Im reading that right now
[08:29] <firtvid20> Hmm, now why won't Blender install...
[08:30] <firtvid20> Failed to fetch http://mirror.optus.net/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/openjpeg/libopenjpeg2_1.3+dfsg-4_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 211.29.132.60 80] 
[08:30] <firtvid20> Anyone know why?
[08:31] <Phlosten> is your package list up to date?
[08:31] <firtvid20> Should be, I updated it just now, and tried again.
[08:32] <firtvid20> I'll try from Synaptic instead of Ubuntu Software Centre
[08:33] <Phlosten> maybe the optus mirror is not up to date
[08:34] <firtvid20> Yeah, still getting an error. When I visit the link to download the deb, I also get a 404 error. D:
[08:34] <firtvid20> I'll try another server
[08:35]  * ikt goes insane
[08:35] <firtvid20> ikt: lol
[08:35] <ikt> why won't you redirect
[08:35] <ikt> this thing won't work sorry :P
[08:35] <firtvid20> Ah, found the package: http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/libopenjpeg2/download
[08:36] <ikt> are you new firtvid20 ?
[08:36] <firtvid20> ikt: Nah, I've used Ubuntu for about a year by now. Found this Ubuntu AU about 5 months ago
[08:36] <ikt> ah ok
[08:36] <firtvid20> I just had to reinstall Ubuntu after my hard drive broke
[08:37] <Phlosten> bugga
[08:37] <ikt> wasting internodes bandwidth
[08:37] <ikt> updating natty for the 100th time -_-
[08:38] <ikt> natty got updated from kernel .37 to .38 and this ofc breaks virtualbox
[08:38] <ikt> so I've been messing around for the last week trying to fix it up
[08:49] <firtvid20> I'd love it if Ubuntu had software similar to After Effects
[08:50] <firtvid20> Too bad Cinefx looks like it was abandoned
[08:55] <ikt> after effects
[08:55] <ikt> that's video editing?
[08:56] <ikt> nothing like sony vegas pro for linux either
[08:56] <ikt> I want something less complicated than professional video editing software but more customisable than windows movie maker
[08:57] <ikt> openshot seems to be heading that way which I'm very happy about
[09:24] <head_victim> Is there a way to probe USB devices, so if I've removed one via the gui and want to reuse it without unplugged and replugging it.
[09:24] <head_victim> (I have an internal card reader that I can't unplug and replug without a fair amount of effort that I keep pressing the wrong option for when removing sd cards)
[09:26] <head_victim> ikt: as per your email to the list, if you did want to organise anything around that document freedom thing I'm sure I could organise you some CDs
[09:41] <ikt> hrmm
[09:42] <ikt> head_victim, I'm not sure if I want to organise around dfd, moreso after visiting local library they seem to have some benchspace for leaflets and things, and I think if I had a broucher and a cd it could be picked up by a few ppl
[09:51] <head_victim> ikt: ah ok, I also have a heap of team business cards left, might be able to think about putting one inside a cd case or something?
[09:55] <ikt> yeah definitely, very doable
[09:55] <head_victim> How big is the library?
[09:56] <head_victim> Just to get a feel for what numbers we're talking about
[09:59] <sagaci> like what was said at the end of lca, how government needs to explicitly document action on using opensource apps. Does it sound as good as it is on paper?
[10:05] <dkg779> just curious, has anyone any idea or experience with dual boot going haywire when new kernal is applied through update manager ?
[10:07] <ikt> head_victim, pretty massive
[10:08] <ikt> I think over 100-150 people in there when I was there
[10:09] <ikt> . It has more than 1,000 visitors a day and approximately 65% of all residents are registered borrowers
[10:09] <ikt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnside_library
[10:12] <head_victim> ikt: so 75 discs would be useful?
[10:15] <head_victim> dkg779: not had that issue sorry
[10:15] <head_victim> dkg779: what sort of "haywire" are you referring to though
[10:17] <ikt> tbh I'm not sure how popular it would be, I'm going to go look over some marketing stuff, thinking of having something like, computer full of malware? try this! but then I remember someone saying something about promoting a product based on other products negativities
[10:17] <ikt> ubuntu is a great os, and perfect for those who just want to browse the web and read email
[10:17] <head_victim> ikt: Have look over spreadubuntu.org they have a fair bit of good stuff
[10:18] <head_victim> I used 2 of their posters for the open day
[10:18] <dkg779> unknown module error at logging in, reset the pc and no dual boot. It went straight to windows and the partition for ubuntu was gone
[10:18] <dkg779> 100% of my dramas have been with update and the dual boot
[10:19] <dkg779> so I've eliminated xp finally and I'll just tough it out dealing with wine and drivers now
[10:19] <head_victim> Ah I can't say I've seen that but yeah, can surely help out with wine and drivers for linux as well if need be
[10:20] <ikt> did spreadubuntu get updated recently?
[10:21] <head_victim> ikt: I think it did actually
[10:22] <head_victim> There's some stuff there that could be useful and other stuff that would require a minimum of change to make useful
[10:23] <dkg779> thanks head_victim
[13:08] <blahdeblah> ikt: ping
[13:08] <blahdeblah> ikt: What did you want to track me down for?
[21:02] <ikt> gonna be a hot day
[22:15] <ikt> hey
[22:15] <ikt> does anyone understand this
[22:15] <ikt> http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_03_02.html
[22:15] <ikt> $* =
[22:15] <ikt> Expands to the positional parameters, starting from one. When the expansion occurs within double quotes, it expands to a single word with the value of each parameter separated by the first character of the IFS special variable.
[22:16] <ikt> o_O?
[22:16] <nisshh> that guide is notoriusly confusing :)
[22:20] <ikt> lol
[22:20] <ikt> glad I'm not alone
[22:22] <nisshh> ikt, that guide is how i learnt bash in the first place, although i never got up to that point ;)
[22:24] <elky> there is #bash (or ##bash) on the network, you konw.
[22:25] <nisshh> ikt, ^^^
[22:25] <ikt> idd
[22:25] <nisshh> meh, i dont use bash anymore anyway
[22:25] <nisshh> i use zsh
[22:26] <ikt> mornin' head_victim  :D
[22:27] <nisshh> hey head_victim
[22:59] <blahdeblah> nisshh: Sounds like you need to switch to gentoo
[22:59] <blahdeblah> ikt: The "positional parameters" are the command line arguments
[23:00] <blahdeblah> ikt: $* gives you all of them separately, "$*" gives them to you all together.  But in practice, you never use this, you only ever use "$@", which is the same thing, but quoting safe.
[23:02] <ikt> ohh
[23:07] <nisshh> blahdeblah, why would i need to switch to gentoo?
[23:08] <blahdeblah> nisshh: zsh, and all your other "let's do this the hard way because we can" idiosyncracies.  Don't worry - we still love you... ;-)
[23:09] <nisshh> blahdeblah, i simply stated i use zsh, zsh does not have anything to do with gentoo
[23:09] <blahdeblah> nisshh: I know, i was just stirring :-)
[23:10] <nisshh> meh
[23:11] <nisshh> blahdeblah, heh, you just stirred me at a bad time, im just annoyed with my current job situation :|
[23:12] <blahdeblah> nisshh: Sorry dude - hope things get better
[23:13] <nisshh> thats ok, not your fault
[23:13] <nisshh> hope is not something i do any more though
[23:16] <blahdeblah> nisshh: :-(
[23:17] <ikt> :-(
[23:25] <ikt> whoooouuooouoouuooo
[23:25] <ikt> best lyric ever
[23:25] <ikt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EjLWh2150I