| txomon | hello, I have just been in the #ubuntu-classroom and I asked about a case | 00:00 |
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| txomon | charlie-tca, ? | 00:00 |
| penguin42 | a particular bug? | 00:01 |
| txomon | yes , this | 00:01 |
| txomon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/485067ç | 00:01 |
| txomon | ups | 00:01 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 485067 in linux "wireless card malfunction" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 00:01 |
| txomon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/485067 | 00:01 |
| txomon | he told me it was incomplete... but i dont know why | 00:01 |
| * penguin42 looks | 00:02 | |
| penguin42 | txomon: OK, it was marked incomplete because he asked you to confirm it was still happening and to run that command, that I see you've run | 00:03 |
| txomon | yes | 00:04 |
| charlie-tca | made it | 00:06 |
| charlie-tca | txomon: I will subscribe to your bug, so I can follow it up | 00:07 |
| txomon | ok | 00:07 |
| txomon | I just submited a curious bug, | 00:07 |
| txomon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/709955 | 00:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 709955 in linux "03f0:241d Gobi wireless modem only works when rebooting from windows" [Undecided,New] | 00:07 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, but jeromy asked to have the mainline kernel tested | 00:07 |
| txomon | is there anything missing there¿ | 00:07 |
| charlie-tca | txomon: also, the kernel bug triager is overwhelmed by sheer numbers of bugs he gets. I can apologize that the ball got dropped on that bug. | 00:08 |
| charlie-tca | txomon: you still have the system for bug 485067? | 00:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 485067 in linux "wireless card malfunction" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/485067 | 00:09 |
| txomon | oh, I just submited it with your instructions while u explained, so, I don't blame | 00:10 |
| txomon | charlie-tca, yes, I would have to take it from my sister ;) but yes | 00:10 |
| charlie-tca | that new bug looks good to me. | 00:11 |
| txomon | im now in the computer (just 4 u to know) | 00:12 |
| charlie-tca | new or old? | 00:12 |
| txomon | new | 00:12 |
| txomon | so I can submit more info | 00:12 |
| txomon | (the old one has a lot) | 00:13 |
| charlie-tca | I don't want no more on it today. I think it has everything the kernel team needs, unless we have you test it in natty | 00:14 |
| charlie-tca | and, I will leave that up to them... | 00:14 |
| txomon | ok, I think you have my mail there in launchpad, so dont hesitate in contacting me | 00:18 |
| txomon | (i'm spa and dont know if I spell correctly everything) | 00:19 |
| charlie-tca | it's okay. Most of the time, we can read what you mean instead of how it got spelled :-) | 00:20 |
| charlie-tca | I added a comment on the old bug. | 00:20 |
| charlie-tca | and, since I only have a few bugs to follow, I will see it again in 3-4 weeks | 00:21 |
| charlie-tca | txomon: thanks for your patience. | 00:25 |
| txomon | ok, I will install newly ubuntu | 00:25 |
| txomon | which one would u prefer? | 00:25 |
| txomon | an LTS or the latest? | 00:25 |
| charlie-tca | on a separate partition, or for that 3G modem bug? | 00:25 |
| txomon | (it is just going to be for the bug) | 00:26 |
| txomon | the old one | 00:26 |
| charlie-tca | You don't need to reinstall unless ubuntu is not there now. | 00:26 |
| txomon | for the modem one, I have the the latest | 00:26 |
| charlie-tca | We just want to try a new kernel on it | 00:26 |
| txomon | charlie-tca, there isnt, so that is my question... ¿is it completely indiferent the ubuntu version? | 00:27 |
| charlie-tca | then you should put maverick on, Ubuntu 10.10 | 00:27 |
| charlie-tca | that gives you a better chance of things working right. | 00:28 |
| charlie-tca | Or, you can just comment on the bug report that you no longer have that computer and save you a lot of work... | 00:28 |
| txomon | np I want to make posible for other people to use ubuntu easier | 00:42 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you for doing that. | 00:45 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: you around? | 01:27 |
| charlie-tca | jibel: I'll catch up to you Monday then. questions about an old bug | 01:28 |
| jibel | Hey charlie-tca, I'm still there. What's the bug ? | 01:35 |
| charlie-tca | bug 658900 | 01:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 658900 in espeak "package espeak 1.43.03-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/658900 | 01:35 |
| * jibel looking | 01:35 | |
| charlie-tca | VarLogDistupgradTermlog.gz shows many errors starting about line 5556 | 01:36 |
| charlie-tca | I never seen one that failed so much | 01:37 |
| txomon | hi, can you tell me if this is the correct way to express new features requierement? | 01:39 |
| txomon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/709978 | 01:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 709978 in empathy "empathy is not enought good in IRC chat" [Undecided,New] | 01:39 |
| charlie-tca | Looks good to me, but let's see what someone else thinks, too. | 01:40 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, iirc update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for iceape-flashplugin. was caused by a previous version of flash which broke the alternatives system. | 01:42 |
| * jibel now looking for the master bug | 01:42 | |
| charlie-tca | and that broke everything, then? | 01:42 |
| jibel | yep, duplicates are good for my karma :-) | 01:42 |
| charlie-tca | yes, they are | 01:42 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, here is the master bug 429841 | 01:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 429841 in flashplugin-nonfree "broken packaging: package flashplugin-nonfree failed to install/upgrade: (breaks upgrade)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/429841 | 01:43 |
| charlie-tca | I sure appreciate you looking into it. | 01:43 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, especially at this time of the night, I should go to bed. | 01:44 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know how you find this stuff, sometimes. but I sure am glad you are able to! | 01:44 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you very much for doing that tonight | 01:45 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, memory training, I learn 500 bugs a day, and in 4 years of contribution to Ubuntu, I've been able to learn them all ;-) | 01:47 |
| charlie-tca | whew! I wish I could say that. | 01:48 |
| jibel | I can say that, but I wish I could do that. | 01:48 |
| jibel | charlie-tca, okay, it's close to 0300AM, time to get some sleep. See you soon. | 01:49 |
| charlie-tca | good night, jibel. And, thanks again | 01:49 |
| syntr | I want to know what else I can do about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-games/+bug/654272 | 05:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 654272 in gnome-games "Gnibbles cannot start new game. game score is initialized but the game splash (worm with green background) does not disappear" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 05:07 |
| syntr | How can it still be undecided? It renders the whole game unplayable :( | 05:08 |
| hggdh | syntr, what do you mean by undecided? | 05:09 |
| syntr | hggdh» The level of importance | 05:10 |
| hggdh | syntr, the way I see it, it is low. I will mark it so | 05:10 |
| syntr | hggdh» how is it low? When you install the game via apt you can't even use it | 05:10 |
| syntr | That would confuse anyone | 05:10 |
| syntr | It used to be included in the default distribution | 05:11 |
| hggdh | hum. I agree. Medium is more correct | 05:12 |
| hggdh | syntr, you might now go to http://bugzilla.gnome.org, and try to find a bug matching this | 05:14 |
| syntr | hggdh» It's ubuntu-specific. works fine on non-ubuntu distributions. It's probably just a packaging mistake | 05:15 |
| hggdh | syntr, same version, same modification level? | 05:16 |
| syntr | modification level? | 05:16 |
| hggdh | fix level. Patches applied. | 05:16 |
| hggdh | syntr, additionally, this package is in Universe -- not in the default (main) repository. It might have been demoted, IDK, but it is *not* in main | 05:20 |
| syntr | hggdh» yes, it was demoted. Ubuntu has removed a lot of gnome-games with each iteration of the OS | 05:22 |
| syntr | but just because it's in the universe repository doesn't mean no one will ever find it lol | 05:23 |
| hggdh | I did not say that. | 05:24 |
| hggdh | *YOU* can help. Try to find out what is wrong. I know for a fact it works on Natty (current devel). You state it does not work in Maverick | 05:26 |
| hggdh | So something changed from before Maverick to Maverick, and something changed again from Maverick to Natty. | 05:26 |
| hggdh | these are good points to start your search | 05:27 |
| hggdh | but just caming in here and complaining is really not going to help | 05:27 |
| syntr | I did try a while ago when I still had ubuntu on my main machine...but not being a developer I had no clue what to do other than reinstall | 05:28 |
| syntr | actually, in any big project things are overlooked so it helps to a point :) | 05:28 |
| hggdh | indeed. But, even better than just point is to actually go and try to find the issues, and work out a fix | 05:29 |
| micahg | syntr: it was demoted after karmic | 05:29 |
| syntr | micahg» yeah. Ubuntu has been becoming more of a "serious" distro :) | 05:30 |
| micahg | syntr: that's not it, as space is needed on the CD I think games were the first thing to do | 05:31 |
| micahg | s/do/go | 05:31 |
| syntr | oh, maybe that as well. it is nice to be able to use a CD, as some distros require a dvd | 05:31 |
| micahg | syntr: I think Ubuntu is trying hard to make sure the final releases still fit on a CD | 05:32 |
| hggdh | micahg, this is indeed correct | 05:32 |
| * hggdh considers it sort of a waste of time. CDs are already obsolete | 05:33 | |
| ikt | it's more of an arbitary line | 05:33 |
| ikt | keeps the os nice and tight | 05:33 |
| hggdh | and lean | 05:33 |
| micahg | syntr: If I backport the version from natty to my PPA, would you be able to test and see if anything has been fixed? | 05:33 |
| syntr | hggdh» I did try to make it work for about an hour. I tried deleting the title-screen SVG among other things....I had no clue how to compile from source or even read the source...I eventually gave up but the e-mail notifications brought it back to my attention | 05:33 |
| syntr | micahg» absolutely :D | 05:34 |
| * hggdh goes hit the bed. Tempus fugit | 05:34 | |
| syntr | micahg» what's a PPA? | 05:38 |
| micahg | syntr: personal package archive | 05:38 |
| micahg | err, a straight backport won't work :-/ | 05:38 |
| syntr | :( | 05:39 |
| micahg | syntr: it's ok, I found a way to do it | 05:39 |
| micahg | syntr: I assume you're on maverick? | 05:46 |
| syntr | micahg» Not at the moment...I'm installing it in a VM on another machine right now. | 05:47 |
| micahg | syntr: ah, which release are you on? | 05:47 |
| * micahg is uploading for maverick ATM to a PPA | 05:48 | |
| syntr | lol not sure if Windows counts as a release. I'm on my laptop...but I'll be ready in like 15 minutes on the other computer | 05:48 |
| micahg | ok, np will probably take longer than that to build | 05:48 |
| syntr | alright. I have all night :D thanks for trying to help :) | 05:49 |
| micahg | syntr: should be ready in about an hour ppa:micahg/ppa | 05:52 |
| syntr | micahg» sudo add-apt-repository ppa:micahg/ppa , right? | 06:03 |
| micahg | syntr: yes | 06:03 |
| syntr | micahg» how will I know when it's ready? | 06:52 |
| micahg | syntr: i386 is ready | 06:52 |
| syntr | micahg» I'm sorry...never used ppa...don't really know how to tell it to install yours | 06:54 |
| micahg | syntr: my version is higher than the archive version, so it'll be chosen | 06:54 |
| syntr | oh, ok | 06:55 |
| syntr-vb | Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe gnibbles i386 1:2.32.0-0ubuntu1 [358kB] ... displays a white screen going in. Does not continue past New Game | 06:58 |
| micahg | syntr-vb: you need to update your apt-cache to see my version | 06:58 |
| syntr-vb | via sudo apt-get update? | 06:59 |
| syntr-vb | done so :| | 06:59 |
| micahg | syntr-vb: can you pastebin apt-cache policy gnibbles | 06:59 |
| syntr-vb | micahg: http://pastebin.com/v7DK8gpU | 07:01 |
| micahg | syntr-vb: try to update again, it's not showing up yet for you | 07:01 |
| syntr-vb | micahg: did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | 07:02 |
| syntr-vb | no updates available | 07:02 |
| micahg | syntr-vb: hmm, not published yet, give it another 30 minutes or so | 07:03 |
| syntr-vb | is there a way to be notified? | 07:03 |
| micahg | syntr-vb: not that I know of | 07:04 |
| syntr-vb | ok | 07:04 |
| micahg | syntr-vb: you could run: watch -n600 'sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy gnibbles' | 07:05 |
| micahg | update and show you what packages are available every 10 minutes | 07:05 |
| syntr-vb | cool :D | 07:06 |
| syntr-vb | yeah, I definitely added you right because I have "Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release.gpg" | 07:06 |
| syntr | micahg» can't I just download the .deb files on the site? | 07:29 |
| micahg | syntr: it's not updated yet? | 07:30 |
| micahg | weird | 07:30 |
| syntr-vb | micahg: Installed gnome-games-common.deb and gnibbles.deb, no change | 07:40 |
| syntr-vb | I'm off to bed, I don't know why it still doesn't work :/ | 07:40 |
| micahg | syntr-vb: I don't know then, maybe get a backtrace where it fails? | 07:41 |
| syntr-vb | I don't know what that means | 07:42 |
| syntr-vb | I'll be back tomorrow :D | 07:42 |
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| ikt | can someone check: https://bugs.launchpad.net/totem/+bug/705361 | 09:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 705361 in totem "movie player "take screenshot" not working" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 09:39 |
| ikt | and set to triaged if everything looks right =) | 09:39 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| === AbhiJit is now known as AbhijiT | ||
| bbordwell | I am trying to debug a possible crash in evince but running 'sudo gdb evince' '(gdb) run' outputs Starting program: /usr/bin/evince | 18:37 |
| bbordwell | [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] | 18:37 |
| bbordwell | No protocol specified | 18:37 |
| bbordwell | Cannot parse arguments: Cannot open display: | 18:37 |
| bbordwell | Program exited with code 01. | 18:37 |
| bbordwell | any ideas? | 18:37 |
| penguin42 | bbordwell: Can you run evince as root anyway? e.g. just do sudo evince? | 18:40 |
| bbordwell | penguin42, ah that does not work....thats the problem, but gdb requires root privileges now... | 18:41 |
| ansgar | bbordwell: Why not just use 'gdb evince'? There is no need to be root to debug something. | 18:41 |
| penguin42 | bbordwell: are you sure it needs root? | 18:41 |
| penguin42 | bbordwell: I know it stops you attaching to a separate process - but it should let you run something directly? | 18:42 |
| bbordwell | penguin42, ah yes sorry i have not had internet for some time so i am rusty....gdb only needs root to attach to a process. | 18:43 |
| bbordwell | thanks | 18:43 |
| penguin42 | bbordwell: It's fairly easy to reenable attach as well | 18:43 |
| bbordwell | hmm i looked at my backtrace to make sure i have all the -dbgsym packages and I found something strange, has anyone ever seen something like this? #38 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () | 18:51 |
| yofel | that looks like an invalid 64bit address? | 18:55 |
| bbordwell | yofel, does that make the backtrace unusable? | 18:58 |
| yofel | no idea, I don't look at that many backtraces, depends where it is I guess | 18:59 |
| bbordwell | alright i will just attach i to the bug report and see what the devs t hink | 19:04 |
| akshatj | GUI in natty is not starting after an update, how do I report a bug? | 19:27 |
| akshatj | (In virtualbox BTW) | 19:28 |
| nonix4 | How should I report data-corruption bug related to cryptswap? As in against which package? | 19:44 |
| akshatj | failsafe X is also failing to start | 19:46 |
| nonix4 | Which package generates /etc/crypttab during installation? It fails to account for device names changing between initial installation and next boot, thus creating a dataloss situation. | 19:55 |
| ikt | akshatj, already known afaik | 19:55 |
| akshatj | ikt: ok | 19:55 |
| ikt | akshatj, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10410999#post10410999 | 19:56 |
| penguin42 | bi | 19:56 |
| penguin42 | nonix4: It's a bit silly for it to use device names rather than uuid's | 19:56 |
| ikt | wops, wrong thread | 19:56 |
| ikt | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1677834&page=2 | 19:59 |
| akshatj | ikt: thanks | 20:02 |
| ikt | :)) | 20:03 |
| nonix4 | penguin42: debian-installer? | 20:06 |
| penguin42 | nonix4: If it's the normal installer on ubuntu it's ubiquity unless you used the alternate cd in which case I think it probably is debian-installer | 20:07 |
| nonix4 | penguin42: alternate cd it was, yup | 20:08 |
| penguin42 | nonix4: Yeh so I think but am not sure it's debian-installer | 20:09 |
| nonix4 | debian-installer package description says it only contains docs, hmm... well, guess I file against that for now and fix later :) | 20:11 |
| nonix4 | although it being dataloss... should it also be in releasenotes? | 20:11 |
| akshatj | the panel and sidebar are gone :( | 20:17 |
| ikt | would it be wise to move this bug to the moonlight plugin? | 21:50 |
| ikt | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/703609 | 21:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 703609 in totem "Cant playback a live stream video" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 21:50 |
| ikt | given that now it reports: The silverlight application is using DRM-protected content, which Moonlight does not support. | 21:51 |
| micahg | ikt: yeah, you can change it to moon, and ask the user to try moonlight-plugin-mozilla | 21:53 |
| nonix4 | I think bug 584067 should be marked as high importance because of the potential for severe data loss. | 22:08 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 584067 in debian-installer "setting up swap encryption from alternate CD uses unstable device nodes" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/584067 | 22:08 |
| ikt | cheers micahg | 22:15 |
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