[03:18] [Jonathan Riddell] Thinkpad T410 and Kubuntu - http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4381 [05:56] popey: http://www.killmydaynow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/KMDN-Daily-PicDump-No.64_90-550x550.jpg [07:16] Hi everyone, I've got a little problem with my packard bell laptop. my headphone doesn't work and they seem to not even be in alsamixer.. [07:17] An idea ? :/ [07:18] Sysunix: try the standard graphical mixer app [07:18] Sysunix: you should be able to use it to select the outout [07:19] there isn't "headphone" in the app [07:20] MartijnVdS* [07:20] Sysunix: in the "Hardware" tab, there's a dropdown box [07:20] what does it contain? [07:20] Sysunix: also, check the "Output" tab, it has a "Connector" dropdown to specify which one to use [07:22] brb, making breakfast [07:22] hum, there is : analog stereo duplex/output, digital stereo HDMI and digital stereo duplex [07:23] when i try to test the headphone, the sound come from the speakers [07:23] not from the headphone :/ [07:29] Sysunix: and the "Output" tab? [07:29] i've got just one thing [07:29] "analog stereo" [07:30] and the other list is from the hardware tab? [07:30] yep [07:30] might be a bug then [07:30] !audio [07:30] If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [07:30] Sysunix: try that troubleshooting link [07:30] i don't understand why i don't even have the headphone in alsamixer [07:31] Sysunix: because (part of) the sound chip is wired up in a way Ubuntu doesn't expect, I think [07:32] mh [07:33] my english isn't that good, it'll take me a while to read all this page ^^ Have you seen something which could help me in this page ? (the troubleshooting one) [07:33] hm that troubleshooting page is a bit .. bad [07:36] Sysunix: I can't help you any further at the moment, I don't know anything about this :) [07:36] !weekend [07:36] It's a weekend. Often on weekends the paid developers and a lot of the community may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would or try again during the working week. [07:37] ok MartijnVdS :) Thanks for tried [08:51] hey all [08:52] howdy [08:53] \o HazRPG [08:53] im looking for an XBMC online video thing line onlinevideos in mediaportal for apple trailers and xxx and stuff.... [08:53] MartijnVdS: o/ [08:53] * MartijnVdS designates today as "Prepare kitchen for disassembly-day" [08:54] Neoti: You mean like an addon/plugin? [08:55] yes... also i download an adon and try and install zip from with in xbmc and it fails also when i try and extract the zip directly in to the xmbc fiolder it says i have no permission.... how do i get around that... [08:57] how did you install xbmc? [08:57] Neoti: Also, I'm guessing your using ubuntu, not windows, right? [08:57] i followed the commands here... http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Installing_XBMC_for_Linux [08:57] only the top four [08:57] and its ubuntu 10.10 [08:58] ok, so you have the xbmc package [08:58] yep... i also plaid with my andriod and remote controlled it last night .. was cool... [08:58] just need to install plug ins etc [09:00] morning all [09:00] AlanBell: mornin o/ [09:02] Neoti: It really depends on the type of plugin you want to install dude apparently [09:03] apparently video plugins go in the /plugins/video/ folder, music in the /plguins/music/ folder, pictures in the /plugins/pictures/ folder and other programs (and launchers, etc) are in /plugins/programs/ [09:03] they go into your home directory btw [09:04] ok i want to install the XBMC Zone installer from xbmczone.. it says download it load up xbmc navigate to the dir and select the zip to install i do that and get installation failed [09:04] Neoti: So for example you had a video plugin you wanted to install, you would copy the directory in the zip file to ~/.xbmc/plugins/video/ [09:04] Neoti: http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=HOW-TO_install_and_use_plugins_in_XBMC#Manually_installing_plugins [09:04] also how do i change the address bar to show the address as i want to go to ~/.xbmc but see no way of navigating to it in the explorer, i can do in terminal but want explorer lol [09:05] you mean nautilus :P [09:05] yes [09:05] erm, easiest way (since I don't like how you can't type into it anymore :/) is go to your home directory [09:05] press CTRL+H [09:06] that'll show hidden folders [09:06] and look for .xbmc [09:06] ah.. thanks [09:06] you can even start typing that and it'll find it that way too [09:06] CTRL+H will hide those folders again btw [09:11] I think if I'm right, the XBMC Zone needs to go into /plugins/programs/ [09:13] however you don't /need/ to install XBMC Zone, you can just download the plugins/addons directly from their site and unzip them into the plugins directories I told you about [09:13] from my understanding of it at least [09:13] Neoti: Hope that helps ya dude [09:14] so where to i extract xbmc zone to ... ? [09:14] ~/.xbmc/plugins/programs/ I think [09:15] still looking around to make sure [09:15] they're website is pretty poor :/ [09:15] their* [09:18] Neoti: Apparently there are 3 more commands you can do. If you want a selection of skins type: sudo apt-get install xbmc-skin-* [09:18] if you want more remotes: sudo apt-get install xbmc-eventclients-* [09:19] and if you want more scripts: sudo apt-get install xbmc-scripts [09:20] also in ~/,xbmc there is no plugins dir theres addons but no plugins [09:20] hmm [09:20] try putting them in the addons folder then [09:20] if not, make a plugins folder [09:20] i did that.... [09:21] which? [09:21] both? [09:21] there is no ~/,xbmc/plugins [09:22] Neoti: That's what I mean, try putting them in the addons folder - if it doesn't work putting them in there, then make a plugins folder inside ~/.xbmc/ [09:23] Neoti: Btw, the guys @ #xbmc might be able to help you out more [09:23] ok .... but i see now why people like windows morethen linux windows "install exe done" linux download no what ... lol ..... though i linux still but i see why a lot of people like windows... [09:24] or #xbmc-linux :) [09:25] Neoti: dude, don't think that way... xbmc plugins still need to be placed in the same folder on a windows machine [09:26] on a qwindows machine its much much easiyer tho..... i would have been done by now ... lol .... [09:26] there just isn't an easy way to put plugins in for xbmc it seems - that's the developers fault, not linux ;) [09:26] Neoti: You say that, but I'm on a windows machine right now - and even I'm having trouble getting these plugins to work xD [09:27] gotta remember, even in the windows world, not everyone makes their packages easy for people to run [09:27] but still, even in the linux world, most people will make a .deb file so that its easy for you to install their stuff [09:28] in fact, some will even try to get their software added into repo's much like the Ubuntu Software Manager thing [09:28] don't you think the software manager is better than the windows one? [09:28] I mean the windows one will just show you what's installed so you can remove it [09:28] the ubuntu one, has software you can actually install! [09:29] yeah program installation is fine in windows its install exe done, in linux its apt-get or .deb / the problem is that on windows its easyer to make changes then on linux IE the changes i am trying to do here etc.... [09:29] again, like I said - not necessarily, it all boils down to the developer of the software [09:30] I mean XBMC doesn't have an easy way to install their plugins [09:30] also i have just downloaded xbmc to windows and installed the zip file fine and it just took 3 mins ... so you can now see what i mean ... [09:30] really? [09:30] it failed on mine :( [09:31] dont get me wrong ubuntu is great and i like it .... but on the configuration side its a little harder then windows... which is why *some* people just stick with windows... [09:31] it would be easy to convert people to ubuntu if things like this where sorted out i guess ... [09:32] the problem doesn't lie that its easy or not, the problem is there are too many variants on linux available - each one working different to the next [09:33] if more people converted to ubuntu, then people might start making standard set of installers (.deb) files [09:33] think about it this way... reason it is so easy in windows, is because windows has dominated the application market for years [09:34] for a software developer to make linux apps, they have to make several different types of installers depending on what distro you use [09:34] with windows, windows accepts just one .exe [09:34] in linux, there is .rpm, .deb, etc [09:35] i see your point i totally agree but in my example just now linux i tried for 30 mins got no where still have not got it working , windows working near enough straight away... etc.... [09:35] I just wish the whole community of linux would adopt just one installer type, and stick with it for all distros of linux - then and only then, would it be easier [09:35] yes i agree on the installation side one installer would be good [09:36] and i do like the synaptic manager and the ubuntu one ... as compared to windows for example ... [09:36] and some things on ubuntu work better then windows .... [09:36] I think as a community, it would be better if everyone agreed on one type, and all helped to develop it to be the standard linux way of installing [09:36] Neoti: Yeah I agree [09:37] in ubuntu im kept up to date on all chat services i have on windows i have to either install loads of clients or use something like trillion and sigh up for yet another user name etc... [09:37] Neoti: Best thing I like about ubuntu, is the fact that ALL software automatically gets updates [09:38] again this is good and bad ... [09:38] but mostly good [09:38] Neoti: btw, in windows you can use things like pidgin instead of trillian - that's what I use ;) [09:39] would be good if android used .deb too [09:39] Neoti: Yeah, its mostly good - because instead of going to each website to download updates for a piece of software, they're all located under the update manager [09:39] AlanBell: would be harder for them to use .deb wouldn't it? [09:40] don't see why [09:40] aren't android apps essentially java applications? [09:40] * HazRPG recalls seeing something like that in the SDK [09:40] yes, in a special not-java kind of way [09:41] AlanBell: yeah, its weird :/ [09:41] there are plenty of java applications packaged as .deb files [09:41] wonder why google decided to make a complete new (*sigh*) installer type :/ [09:42] completely* [09:42] they rewrote the JVM to avoid licensing it from Sun, then Oracle bought Sun and are now sueing Google [09:42] AlanBell: that doesn't surprise me [09:42] android packages are basically .jar files, which are basically .zip files [09:43] indeed [09:43] you could argue that .deb is basically a .zip too though ;) [09:43] yup [09:46] btw, Neoti: XBMC Zone hasn't been updated since 2008 [09:46] and XBMC has changed from using "plugins" to "addons" like you said [09:46] so best to do the below: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Unofficial_Add-on_Repositories [09:46] instead of using XBMC Zone [09:46] since the plugins aren't supported from Zone anymore [09:48] AlanBell: Do you work for canonical at all? Or do some projects for ubuntu? [09:48] just interested [09:49] I don't work for Canonical, but I do work with their corporate services team from time to time [09:49] was a reason to why I asked that, but can't remember now (was going to suggest something that the devs could maybe work on) [09:49] I am involved in several areas of the Ubuntu project now [09:49] cool [09:50] ah! yes, now I remember [09:50] chat [09:50] wouldn't it be a good idea if ubuntu was made in such a way, that people could login to irc - without having to know what irc was, or even how the "chat" thing worked [09:51] HazRPG: they should know what to expect though [09:51] so that people can get logged into their local LoCo irc channel, or the standard #ubuntu channel [09:51] they kind of can [09:51] HazRPG: nobody may be around to help [09:51] for help/support [09:51] HazRPG: if you launch xchat-gnome it autoconnects to freenode, tries to use your username as a nick and connects to #ubuntu-countrycode [09:52] which in our case connects to #ubuntu-GB, which redirects to here [09:52] AlanBell: Yeah I know, but if you don't install xchat - then you'd never know would you [09:52] agreed [09:53] getting xchat on the default install would be good in my opinion [09:53] MartijnVdS: I agree, but that could be the disclaimer at the start though [09:53] or another IRC client with similar loco-connecting functionality [09:53] AlanBell: indeed [09:54] just from experience, I end up being the support guy that my fellow converts contact - and well I don't mind that, but well gets annoying after a while xD [09:54] I mean, there was one day - I got like 8 phone calls around roughly the same time because of an update xD [09:57] AlanBell: See, that could be a feature mentioned on the homepage of the ubuntu site about ubuntu. "Xchat client installed by default - this will connect to your local community, to help with some problems you may encounter. Please note: These are volunteers, and will try to help if they are available..." something along them lines and that the forum is the best place if they want more help, etc [09:57] hey, send them all here [09:57] with the new loco site http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/ [09:57] we have http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/todays-chatter/ [09:57] AlanBell: I've been trying to get coophi to join IRC for ages now, but he keeps saying "I'll get round to it" [09:57] http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/join-the-conversation/ [09:57] time for tea! [09:58] AlanBell: Yeah, I am liking how beta.ubuntu-uk.org is coming along :) [09:59] still think the logo in the corner needs changed though [09:59] the map is almost working [09:59] (top-right podcast one) [09:59] yes, I only went mad with the colours so that the podcast folk would object and change it for me [10:00] AlanBell: good plan ;) [10:00] heck, I've been tempted to change it xD [10:02] hmm, I just thought - if all the LoCo's have a "join the conversation" type things on their site... well, maybe, just maybe, one of the dev's could make a - I don't know - a desktop widget / greeting / intro / thing... [10:02] (dev's of ubuntu I mean) [10:02] and in the intro, it could point them to their local LoCo depending on country setting, etc [10:02] that would be more useful [10:02] anyone can be a dev of ubuntu [10:02] heh, yeah I know :P [10:02] there are nice python IRC libraries [10:03] well i sorted out my xbmc now ... [10:03] but my skills aren't exactly that great [10:03] thanks for the help HazRPG [10:03] Neoti: No problem dude, I'm guess #xbmc-linux were more help though :P [10:03] nope. [10:03] well [10:03] kinda [10:03] the plugins page was the only help [10:04] i now have the content i wanted apple trailers and game trailers etc .... so im good ... [10:04] :) [10:05] Neoti: Personally, I use Boxee - which is a variant of XBMC [10:05] and, well so much easier to use then XBMC [10:06] Neoti: Worth checking out: http://www.boxee.tv/ [10:06] HazRPG: mad corner podcast thing has been removed until the launch of Season 4 [10:06] AlanBell: woot! [10:06] guessing you have magic ninja ftp access then :OP [10:07] :P* [10:07] magic ninja wordpress access [10:07] oh, really this is made with wordpress :o [10:07] * HazRPG impressed [10:08] yeah [10:08] AlanBell: any reason why there's a nasty purple box around the photo though? [10:08] you'll have to make a video for youtube of it ... [10:08] Neoti: Boxee you mean? [10:09] there's a video on their site if I recall [10:09] the tasteful aubergine border you mean? [10:09] i will look at it later... for now i have moved from GBpvr to MediaPortal to xbmc... im just a media center slut....!!!!! lol [10:09] AlanBell: yeah, it looks wrong somehow [10:09] AlanBell: first time I saw it about a week or so ago... I thought it was clickable [10:10] Neoti: If I recall I recommended Boxee to you when others were shouting XBMC xD [10:11] i know but i looked at xbmc first and thought "o shiny and pritty" and sorta stuck with it ... sorry Haz.... i will look now ... [10:11] * Neoti Thinks he offended HazRPG..... About to fix that tho!!! SORRY!!!!! [10:11] Neoti: Nah dude, don't be sorry - we're a community dude :) we'll all have our own opinions as to what works best for us [10:13] Where I was this weekend: http://bit.ly/dEXMnm [10:13] Neoti: Personally I like Boxee, because they're getting sponsors from things lik Vudu movies, NetFlix, etc (and yes although those are american brands, it won't be long before the BBC and stuff try to get involved) [10:14] Neoti: I recall seeing somewhere before boxee lauched (back in alpha) their promise to keep boxee free and open [10:15] Neoti: They'll be making their money from their sponsors, their boxes that they've made, etc... so as a whole I can see them striving to better goals then XMBC - but that's just me [10:15] plus since it's the same base, plugins for either work fine [10:16] markjones: why does this guy look familiar to me: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bryn_s/5399282735/in/set-72157625934186738/ [10:16] in xbmc is there away to use my wintv 3000 card by huppage? [10:16] HazRPG: he's you, you see him every day in the mirror? [10:17] MartijnVdS: Not quite :P [10:17] HazRPG: just guessing :) [10:17] hmm, does ubuntu actually have an official page on facebook? [10:18] with the whole boom of all things going social media :/ [10:19] I'm sure I have a friend that looks like him [10:20] omg wait... he looks like that kid from superbad xD [10:21] http://www.facebook.com/ubuntulinux [10:21] 326,220 people like this [10:21] AlanBell: yeah I've noticed that, but it could just be fan-based [10:21] argh [10:21] because one type of Intel wlan chip has issues with 802.11n they've disabled it on ALL iwlagn devices? [10:22] * MartijnVdS pokes around in /etc/modprobe.d/ [10:22] heh, wow 2 of my mates "liked" that page ^^, [10:22] one of them I met here on this channel, and one irl [10:22] http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2205498133 [10:22] I think that one may be more official or something [10:22] I don't know the difference between a group and a page really [10:23] both can be made by anyone (much like a wiki) [10:24] a page however, can be automatically made by simply putting "keyword" in your "info" section of your profile [10:24] a group, has to actually be made [10:24] one of those also contains wikipedia content [10:24] by default [10:25] tx bitrate: 162.0 MBit/s MCS 12 40Mhz [10:25] \o/ [10:25] with groups, you've got discussions, etc so its more like making a community (much like google groups, etc), and a page, is just for updates [10:25] MartijnVdS: ? [10:26] HazRPG: I've disabled the disabling of 802.11n in the iwlagn driver [10:26] HazRPG: /etc/modprobe.d/intel-5300-iwlagn-disable11n.conf [10:26] I have a 6300, but it still triggered and disabled the N bit [10:26] which is unfortunate, because N works fine [10:27] * Neoti getting coffee! [10:27] heh, nice :) [10:27] now all I need is N and ipv6 on my ps3 and I'm completely in the 21th century ;) [10:28] st [10:28] MartijnVdS: I wish I could get N for my PS3 too, and my router :/ [10:28] HazRPG: My ISP gave me a Fritz!Box 7340.. it has native ipv6-over-dsl support, and wifi-n :) [10:29] I wish I'd studied engineering, and electronics at school [10:29] no concurrent 2/5GHz though :( [10:29] HazRPG: what did you study? [10:29] MartijnVdS: The only subjects they had available :/ [10:29] MartijnVdS: My parents moved to saudi for work [10:30] HazRPG: so.. you have a BA in knitting? :P [10:31] so for my GCSE's I had to take English, Computing, Bio, Chem, Phys, then either History, French or Geography [10:31] Math was a must too [10:31] * HazRPG tries to remember other subjects [10:31] arabic was a must, but well my arabic was poor for reading/writing so I got opt-ed out for it [10:32] if the example was spoken - I would have been able to pass with flying colours [10:32] exam* not example xD [10:33] I took English Lit. but we didn't have teachers for it - but thankfully we had a british teacher, who said she'd teach me it after school hours and managed to get a classroom organised with the principle [10:33] think there was 3 of us in total that took it [10:34] erm... think that was it [10:34] MartijnVdS: I've got a HND in Computing? [10:34] shame though, cos I taught everything I know myself - didn't actually learn anything at college [10:35] I mean I wrote my first piece of HTML when I was 13 [10:35] * MartijnVdS just did Dutch, English, Math [option B, the harder one :)], Phys, Chem, History, and a few "non-exam" subjects.. then tried studying CS for a year and dropped out because Linux was too much fun :P [10:35] (hurray for web crawler apps back in the 90's) [10:35] HazRPG: Hotbot! [10:35] ? [10:36] oh heh lol [10:36] that was one of the early search engines [10:36] with altavista, yahoo, etc. [10:36] nah, I was old-school - didn't know about search engines until much later on [10:36] I used an actual web crawler app to sprawl through the net [10:37] it was called Bee something or other [10:37] haha no way [10:37] www.pagetutor.com <== still exists! [10:37] that was the site that taught me my basics xD [10:38] my dad taught me GW-BASIC when I was 9 or 10 [10:38] so I've been programming since then :) [10:38] looks like it hasn't changed much either [10:38] yeah I crawled for "How to make a computer program" at the same time as "How to make a website" [10:39] so I wrote my first HTML and C++ HelloWorld app back when I was 13 [10:39] I hated computing at school though, because we had to make a VB6 app for a database - when all I wanted to do was C++ coding [10:40] even when I went to college, they pushed VB6 down our throats [10:40] :/ [10:40] was so glad my HND involved C++ and Java [10:41] MartijnVdS: Was that for the ZX? [10:42] HazRPG: no, DOS :) [10:42] haha old-school [10:43] did some Basic myself at one point [10:44] BlitzBasic <== that's the one [10:45] made a really really simple game in blitzbasic [10:46] HazRPG, he is @nwdls on twitter, Rhodri ap Dyfrig is his real name. [10:46] and.. yeah, i dunno :P [10:46] markjones: yeah, he looks like this kid: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2395586/ [10:47] aah, xD [10:47] but a European version of him [10:47] smile/glasses look similar though [10:48] markjones: what was the event about dude? [10:48] HazRPG: a European version? You mean half his weight? :P [10:50] MartijnVdS: that... and the fact that he's paler - with a more european facial structure [10:50] eye type, hair, facial expressions, etc [10:51] makes him look sort of british / sort of european [10:51] where as the guy from superbad, you can tell he's american [10:51] HazRPG, It was an event about technology and the Welsh Language, there were talks on everything from Wordpress to Ubuntu [10:51] markjones: nice :) [10:51] markjones: were was it hosted? [10:52] I'm tempted to get my friends to go to Ucubed - looks like it could be fun [10:52] HazRPG, it was hosted in Wales at Aberystwyth University, we were using the same building the BBC has a newsroom and studio in :D [10:53] haha nice [10:54] yeah. t'was ace [10:56] cloud computing meets parenting /o\ [10:56] xD [10:57] anyone going to Ucubed btw? [10:57] lots of tears due to entering a club penguin password with caps lock on too many times and now the account is locked for an hour [10:57] AlanBell: oops >_< [10:59] this guy is dumb: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsW-eXhMZzc [10:59] heh, he is totally not getting that it is locked out on my computer as well as the children's one [11:00] bet he didn't realise that the xbox360 games have a video section on them [11:01] if he had a DreamCast in the past, he'd have known the same thing - because you get a message when you put a DreamCast game into a stereo saying "this is a DreamCast game..." [11:01] AlanBell: ^^, [11:05] * Neoti Looking at Mythbuntu and Boxee... need a media center that supports My TV Capture card... or might just buy a newone... any suggestions for one that supported under ubuntu? [11:05] the mythbuntu wiki has lists [11:05] (of supported cards) [11:07] I have a dual head digital card in my mythtv box. But I haven't used that box for about 2 years. Need to sell it really [11:08] whats the card ? [11:08] bigcalm: ooh, i might be tempted to take that off you [11:08] I have a sat card in my desktop [11:09] don't really use it that much tbh [11:09] Can't remember :) [11:10] dutchie: http://www.lazygnome.net/diary/592 [11:11] Very old blog entry, doesn't say much about it, but that's the case [11:12] looks quite shiny [11:12] Neoti: #boxee <== [11:12] It's a very quiet case. Silicon buffers on the mounts for the harddrives and DVD drive [11:12] im thereHaxRPG [11:12] 2 x 120mm fans [11:13] (I think) [11:13] should be HazRPG [11:13] 2gb ram (max that the mobo will take) [11:13] im also just reading the link from lazygnome ... [11:13] seems good ... [11:14] i want a list of every bit of hardware supported by ubuntu ... does such a list exsist !???? i wander... [11:15] Neoti: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/ [11:16] Hey guys can i use utorrent with ubuntu? [11:16] !torrent [11:16] Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P [11:18] Doh , my wintv PVR 3000 is not supported https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaHauppauge DOH DOH DOH... !!!!!!! [11:18] It might be at a later date [11:19] Neoti: The hardware support doesn't list everything that'll work, just the ones that have been tested. If it's not mentioned, give it a go? [11:19] Gringo: nope, there is a torrent program already built in [11:19] as MartijnVdS just pointed out :P [11:20] Listing absolutely everything that works would presumably require having a list of every single model of each component that exists, which doesn't seem likely somehow... [11:21] Neoti: Best way is to test it out [11:22] Gringo: How's things going anyways? With your whole switching to ubuntu. [11:22] going good so far? [11:22] Time to go walking :) [11:22] Neoti: Also bear in mind that the only thing listed on that page as not working hasn't been tested since 2005 - there's a good chance it's been made to work in the intervening six years. Try it, maybe it'll work. [11:26] ok im selling Hauppauge WinTV HVR-3000 - DVB-T/DVB-S it includes all cables and the remote, plus the remote has never been used. [11:26] !kernel [11:26] The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages [11:27] hey AlanBell :) [11:27] Neoti: Btw, support for that card was added in kernel 2.6.28-rc1 [11:27] christhecoolboy: o/ [11:28] Neoti: The version of the kernel in Ubuntu 10.10 is 2.6.35 - so your TV card should work out of the box :) [11:28] so what can I do? [11:28] I cant even install it [11:28] its static... [11:28] christhecoolboy: hi \o [11:28] oh ... ok ... did not know that ... [11:28] christhecoolboy: do you have an external monitor to plug in? [11:29] Neoti: Here's for reference: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-3000 [11:29] Not where I am at the moment [11:29] Neoti: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview#Linux kernel 2.6.35 [11:29] i guess im still a newb [11:29] isnt there a command [11:29] that I can put [11:29] Neoti: Thing to remember is that the kernel controls everything, so drivers are usually included with the kernel [11:30] ah so if i plug this card in it will get picked up? also what is a good program for viewing the stations ? [11:30] in ubuntu .... [11:31] Window does the same thing (sorta), except microsoft don't tend to keep on-top of drivers for ALL devices like linux tries to [11:31] I have a black prototype webbook that is broken and has no hdd, I used to have a white one which was more functional but I can't find it right now [11:32] Neoti: Not sure, my TV card I use to have got washed away in the floods in 2005... and I didn't start using linux until 2006 [11:32] Neoti: My guess would be XBMC, Boxee, MythTV, etc [11:32]