[01:36] <cyberanger> how's everything going?
[01:36] <cyberanger> oh how this channel gets quiet, I swear you could hear a ping drop
[01:42] <vychune> hey guys
[01:43] <vychune> meta-1
[01:43] <vychune> oops
[01:44] <cyberanger> hey vychune
[01:44] <vychune> how you doing?
[01:44] <cyberanger> it was getting so quiet in here, I could hear a ping drop
[01:45] <vychune> LOL!
[01:45] <cyberanger> working on work, dns nameserver config
[01:45] <vychune> i went to Midsouth Makers
[01:45] <cyberanger> sweet
[01:45] <vychune> it was great
[01:46] <cyberanger> hopefully I can get there at some point, gotta cross a long state for it
[01:46] <cyberanger> present something
[01:46] <vychune> i ate and named the spark dog machine lol
[01:46] <cyberanger> probally a router mod
[01:46] <vychune> cool
[01:46] <vychune> all i got is an un finished website
[01:47] <cyberanger> I'm about as far east as I can get without calling it north carolina
[01:47] <vychune> damn
[01:47] <cyberanger> so it'll be a little while
[01:47] <vychune> wow
[01:47] <vychune> hold on
[01:48] <cyberanger> yeah, but considering how much I gotta blog, on prior projects, might as well keep the router on ice
[01:48] <cyberanger> holding on
[01:48] <vychune> im using irssi now
[01:49]  * cyberanger wonders why the railing I'm holding onto is so sticky
[01:49] <cyberanger> cool
[01:50] <vychune> i learn how to screen to
[01:50] <vychune> learned
[01:50]  * cyberanger <3's irssi
[01:50] <vychune> vychune not so much lol
[01:51] <vychune> chris how you doing
[01:53] <chris4585> vychune, I'm tired, I volunteered today, you?
[01:53] <vychune> wanted to go to a meeting oh Midsouth Makers today
[01:53] <vychune> my mom went to the Grizzles game
[01:54] <chris4585> midsouth makers?
[01:54] <cyberanger> memphis hackerspace
[01:54] <chris4585> ah
[01:54] <vychune> volunteered doing what?
[01:54] <cyberanger> man, you've been "out of state" too long now chris4585 ;-)
[01:54] <vychune> thanks cyber
[01:55] <chris4585> vychune, at my mom's work (thrift store)
[01:55] <vychune> oh cool
[01:55] <chris4585> cyberanger, I wouldn't have known that even if I was still in TN lol
[01:58] <cyberanger> really, 1 7|-|0ug|-|7 0f y0u 45 m0r3 0f 4 h4x0r chris4585 :P
[01:59] <vychune> chi whats up
[01:59] <chris4585> cyberanger, nope
[01:59] <vychune> cyber ?
[01:59] <cyberanger> hey chibihogoshino
[01:59] <chibihogoshino> yo cyberanger
[01:59] <chibihogoshino> wuz up
[01:59] <cyberanger> vychune: annoying leetspeek, little bit of a joke
[02:00] <vychune> lol
[02:00] <cyberanger> chris4585: well, your enough of one to read it ;-)
[02:00] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: not too much, working on work
[02:00] <cyberanger> and chatting
[02:00] <chris4585> yeah I was about to say how sad it is I can actually read that
[02:00] <chibihogoshino> sweet
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> gotta go tho.. im at a coffee shop and its time to leave i guess.. lol
[02:01] <vychune> ok
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> peace out yall
[02:01] <cyberanger> enough time to say hello
[02:01] <vychune> lata
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> yeppers
[02:01] <cyberanger> and I gotta run, heh
[02:01] <cyberanger> see ya chibihogoshino
[02:01] <vychune> see ya guys
[02:01] <chibihogoshino> ill be back on l8tr
[02:01] <cyberanger> lol
[02:42] <wrst> helloeveryone
[02:43] <cyberanger> hey wrst
[02:43] <wrst> cyberanger:  i find myself fixing another winders install
[02:43] <cyberanger> it had been quiet all afternoon, I swear I could hear a ping drop
[02:44] <cyberanger> wrst: rm -Rf /windows/
[02:44] <cyberanger> fixed
[02:44] <wrst> quickbooks is a necessary evil here
[02:44] <wrst> but i do agree with you
[02:45] <cyberanger> well, if your that stuck, might I suggest some wine ;-)
[02:45] <cyberanger> I know I'm a vodka person myself, but that wine might help you
[02:46] <wrst> i really wouldn't want to attempt it and I don't think quickbooks works very well with it
[02:46] <cyberanger> well, with that attitude I know you haven't tried, you sound too sober still
[02:46]  * cyberanger has killed the joke
[02:47] <wrst> well if it werefor my use i would try it maybe but i don't think i would trust wine with mission critical
[02:47] <cyberanger> true
[02:48] <wrst> but wow taking 10 minutes to get into quickbooks and of course they have lost the cd
[02:48] <wrst> it really needs a wipe clean and restart
[03:03] <chibihogoshino> yay..
[03:04] <cyberanger> woot
[03:05] <chibihogoshino> can i hold a program from starting right away in xsession  ?
[03:14] <cyberanger> delay it's start?
[03:14] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, use sleep
[03:14] <chris4585> sleep 10s; program-executable
[03:14] <cyberanger> sleep 10; kill chris4585
[03:15] <cyberanger> seems to work fine ;-)
[03:15] <chris4585> well that may work in xsession, if not just try creating a script with the contents of sleep
[03:15] <chris4585> cyberanger, :P
[03:15] <cyberanger> opps, got one zombie process
[03:15] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, I used sleep a lot to delay processes while using openbox
[03:15] <chibihogoshino> hmm..
[03:15] <chibihogoshino> right in the xsession file or in a bash script ?
[03:15] <chris4585> either or?
[03:16] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, what do you want to delay?
[03:16] <cyberanger> openbox really is simple, but for gnome I'd make a bash script, delay and excute
[03:16] <chibihogoshino> conky from starting right away
[03:16] <chris4585> cyberanger, yeah
[03:16] <cyberanger> then have xsession invoke that
[03:16] <chris4585> yes what cyberanger said
[03:16] <chibihogoshino> brb
[03:16] <chris4585> and pretty much what I said earlier
[03:16] <chris4585> lol
[03:16] <cyberanger> it was, I was just endorsing it
[03:17] <chris4585> darn, I'm cleaning my room and I've almost found a home for everything except my baseball bat
[03:17] <cyberanger> as the better method
[03:17] <cyberanger> next to your baseball?
[03:17] <chris4585> don't own a baseball lol
[03:17] <chris4585> I have it purely for enjoyment of knowing I have it, and one day I will beat the living poo out of 'something' :-)
[03:18] <cyberanger> hehe
[03:18]  * chris4585 plots against watermelons
[03:19]  * cyberanger plots against chris4585
[03:19] <chris4585> :O
[03:19] <cyberanger> if it's a contest of evil, I win
[03:20] <chris4585> well I do have some anger issues I need to sort out, not because of any one thing, but for a good while I've just wanted to go all out on a watermelon :D
[03:36]  * cyberanger hands chris4585 the worlds biggest sledgehammer and smallest watermelon
[03:36] <cyberanger> oh, and a camera
[03:37] <chris4585> lol
[03:37]  * chris4585 goes bonkers
[03:39]  * cyberanger expected a little more comical results
[03:39] <cyberanger> oh I forgot the tape
[03:39] <cyberanger> :/
[03:41] <chris4585> haha sorry :p
[03:46] <cyberanger> that's a shame, now we're out of the worlds smallees watermelon
[03:47] <cyberanger> hey orangeninja
[03:48] <orangeninja> hey cyberanger
[03:50] <orangeninja> nmap -sP 192.168.0.1-199
[03:50] <orangeninja> ha wrong box
[03:52] <cyberanger> die hacker scum
[03:52] <cyberanger> ;-)
[03:52] <orangeninja> ha, it's my network no hacker here anyway..
[03:52] <cyberanger> says the hacker
[03:52] <cyberanger> :P
[03:53] <cyberanger> naw, I don't care
[03:53] <orangeninja> that's why I want to learn lnux so I can be 133t
[03:54] <orangeninja> sup chibihogoshino
[03:54] <chris4585> wb chibihogoshino, how did that thing go?
[03:54] <chibihogoshino> trying to get compiz xfce4 and tilda to play nice
[03:55] <chibihogoshino> thanks chris4585
[03:55] <chibihogoshino> didnt work
[03:55] <chibihogoshino> if i start conky after everything loads its ok but if i use a auto launch it covers tilda
[03:56] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, did you try making the geometry of tilda not cover conky or is that a possibility?
[03:56] <chibihogoshino> i wish xfce4-session had a no window manager option
[03:56] <chibihogoshino> i want tilda to cover it ..
[03:57] <chris4585> ah
[03:57] <chibihogoshino> its just a blank part of conky .. i have everything on one line but it still has like 3 lines down that are blank
[03:57] <chris4585> then in that case, sounds really tricky
[03:57] <chibihogoshino> if i could get it all to fit on one line it would be ok
[03:58] <chibihogoshino> but conky isnt that great at making things work on one line without all the text moving all around
[03:59] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, are you using xfce panel on the bottom or something?
[03:59] <chibihogoshino> no
[03:59] <chibihogoshino> i use awn
[04:00] <chris4585> ah, I'm not sure then, I myself don't really have enough conky-fu to know a fix...
[04:00] <chibihogoshino> i load xfce4-session to load all the key bindings and gnome theme stuff
[04:01] <chibihogoshino> guess i could try to load gnome-session instead
[04:01] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, you just gave me a great idea friend, although it wont help you lol..
[04:01] <chibihogoshino> sweet
[04:02] <chris4585> I have a empty space on my screep all the time I can utilize conky for :D
[04:02] <chibihogoshino> all the time  ?
[04:02]  * chris4585 goes online to steal a decent conky config to mod the crap out of
[04:02] <chris4585> yeah
[04:02] <chibihogoshino> how big is it
[04:03] <chibihogoshino> how is it all the time
[04:04] <chibihogoshino> brb
[04:05] <chibihogoshino> hmm
[04:06] <orangeninja> yall got a scrip to start conky at start up or just starting it in console each time?
[04:09] <chris4585> orangeninja, at startup
[04:11] <chibihogoshino> cant do it..
[04:11] <chibihogoshino> i cant run gnome
[04:12] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, I couldn't find my best recent screenshot
[04:12] <chris4585> but http://i.imgur.com/tjFU1.jpg
[04:12] <chris4585> to the right of the ubuntu icon (bottom left) that space is shown always
[04:15] <chibihogoshino> cool
[04:15] <chibihogoshino> wont the bar expand if more programs are open ?
[04:16] <orangeninja> brb
[04:16] <chris4585> yeah but I'll see what will happen..
[04:16] <chibihogoshino> i kinda have the same thing going on.. but at the top is the conky bar
[04:20] <chibihogoshino> http://i.imgur.com/p56dc.png this right now is how it looks..
[04:24] <chris4585> ah thats cool
[04:24] <chris4585> the only thing that would bug me is the icons
[04:25] <chibihogoshino> huh
[04:25] <chibihogoshino> why the icons ?
[04:26] <chris4585> don't seem to match the overall theme
[04:26] <chibihogoshino> yeah.. im trying to work on that
[04:27] <chibihogoshino> gnome is just so messed up on the icon part its crazy
[04:28] <chibihogoshino> i made a few but its really annoying cuz im not that great at making icons
[04:29] <chris4585> I don't think I could...
[04:29] <chris4585> I got my desired effect :D
[04:29] <chibihogoshino> i would be fine if i could just change the color to match the theme and keep all the icons the same
[04:30] <chris4585> I think I'll increase my font a tiny bit..
[04:31] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, http://i.imgur.com/WV3JA.jpg
[04:31] <chibihogoshino> ooo thats nice
[04:32] <chris4585> why thank you :)
[04:32] <chris4585> I have a separate awn instance running very bottom left that intelhides and only has the ubuntu menu
[04:33] <chibihogoshino> i thought about doing that but i have the bar loaded at the bottom anyway so i just stuck it all on one
[04:34] <chris4585> ah
[04:34] <chibihogoshino> i wish i could take the top part of the windows off
[04:35] <chris4585> I have key points.. I have muscle memory built now, mouse moves that is, top left = close; top right = session stuff; bottom left = menu; and *usually* bottom left = volume
[04:35] <chris4585> last one should be bottom right*
[04:36] <chris4585> I have floating gnome-panel with global menu, windows actions and windows title
[04:36] <chibihogoshino> thats allot of mouse movement
[04:37] <chibihogoshino> why not hot keys ?
[04:37] <chibihogoshino> alt f4 to close
[04:37] <chris4585> I'm too much of a mouse addict lol
[04:37] <chibihogoshino> heh
[04:38] <chris4585> while watching / listening to stuff I like to know where the volume icon is exactly without looking and same for closing windows
[04:38] <chris4585> the ubuntu menu is a fluke and ended up where it is lol, I rarely use it
[04:38] <chris4585> thus why I hide it
[04:39] <chibihogoshino> ah
[04:39] <chris4585> only reason I don't have awn fully expanded is because the space where conky shows info I need my mouse to be able to scroll to a new desktop
[04:39] <chris4585> I'm pretty specific with my desktop.. I get cranky when I don't have it my way lol
[04:39] <chibihogoshino> yeah im the same way ..
[04:40] <chibihogoshino> it has to do what you want or its not right
[04:40] <orangeninja> b
[04:40] <chris4585> exactly, it feels so limiting
[04:40] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[04:40] <chris4585> only thing gnome-panel even has to offer me is force quit lol
[04:41] <chibihogoshino> didnt know it had that
[04:41] <chibihogoshino> i just double click the close icon and a window pops up with a kill option
[04:41] <chris4585> ah
[04:42] <chibihogoshino> it would be cool to have a database of different desktop configurations and how they got it that way
[04:43] <chris4585> would be neat
[04:44] <chibihogoshino> i have thought about hiding the bar at the bottom but the icons are notifications too.. so i wouldnt know if something was going on or not
[04:47] <chris4585> ah true
[04:47] <chris4585> only if there was a do-it-all space saving option
[04:48] <orangeninja> did yall get your conkies figured out?
[04:48] <chibihogoshino> yeah that would be nice
[04:48] <chibihogoshino> no
[04:48] <chris4585> my notifications if I wanted could be placed in my top gnome-panel but you see my screen is rather large.. and I don't like looking up there lol
[04:48] <chibihogoshino> its still messed up
[04:48] <chibihogoshino> lol
[04:49] <chibihogoshino> something is up with the conky config
[04:49] <chibihogoshino> it dosnt transparent the background right
[04:49] <orangeninja> how big is your monitor chris? I like your setup nice and clean.
[04:50] <chris4585> orangeninja, thanks, its a lot of aesthetics, and its 28"
[04:51] <orangeninja> nice
[04:51] <chibihogoshino> thats nice.. i miss my 21"
[04:52] <chibihogoshino> i thought i would never get used to a 14" screen
[04:52] <orangeninja> I have a 21" vizio lcd Im using on desktop
[04:53] <chibihogoshino> sweet orangeninja
[04:56] <orangeninja> I'd like to get a duel setup sometime.... key word sometime
[04:57] <chibihogoshino> that would be cool.. or a triple screen
[04:57] <orangeninja> be nice to have several things up at once......ha ha
[04:58] <chibihogoshino> browse the web have irc and play tux racer at the same time
[04:58] <orangeninja> all about time managment right?
[04:59] <chibihogoshino> yepperes
[05:00] <chris4585> I learned that unless you have similar monitors it doesn't work well..
[05:01] <chibihogoshino> why ?
[05:01] <chris4585> just seems weird
[05:01] <chibihogoshino> i had my 21 and a 15
[05:01] <chibihogoshino> used the 15 to watch tv
[05:01] <chris4585> just didn't work for me
[05:01] <orangeninja> yeah I figured if I ever got to do it I would need to buy two exact same monitors
[05:02] <orangeninja> yeah I messed with it with different monitors and not great. different size and resolutions
[05:03] <orangeninja> but if you set it up for two different desktops i guess it might work better.
[05:03] <orangeninja> on same computer of course
[05:03] <chibihogoshino> thats what i did
[05:04] <chibihogoshino> i love curry
[05:06] <orangeninja> the food?
[05:06] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[05:08] <orangeninja> eating some now or just thinking about curry? ha
[05:08] <chibihogoshino> i made some curry rice
[05:08] <orangeninja> nice, that is one type of food I have not had yet. I need to try some out
[05:09] <chibihogoshino> you never had rice ?
[05:11] <orangeninja> curry
[05:11] <orangeninja> nevery had any indian food
[05:11] <chibihogoshino> oh
[05:11] <chibihogoshino> its amazing
[05:16] <orangeninja> are you starting conky with terminal or scriping it to start on boot?
[05:17] <chibihogoshino> on boot ?
[05:17] <chibihogoshino> that would be before x starts
[05:18] <chibihogoshino> im starting it with super key c
[05:18] <chibihogoshino> till i figure out why its messed up
[05:18] <orangeninja> I thought conky was all texted based anyway?
[05:19] <orangeninja> I dont really know anything about other than I have seen some cools tuff with it.
[05:19] <chris4585> oh speaking of conky..
[05:19]  * chris4585 finds link
[05:20] <orangeninja> can you lock it down to be kind of like it is part of the desktop walpaper?
[05:20] <chris4585> the first one mentioned is seriously badass http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/five-seriously-cool-conky-set-ups-for-linux-desktop/
[05:20] <chris4585> orangeninja, it just sits on the desktop, and has a billion options
[05:21] <chris4585> I didn't even know the text in conky could be tilted.. unless thats a trick..
[05:21] <chibihogoshino> orangeninja: yeah it kinda becomes part of the desktop
[05:22] <orangeninja> looks awesome.
[05:22] <chibihogoshino> i think the tilted text is with lua
[05:23] <orangeninja> the first time I messed with it I just rand conky in term and started it, then I was like how do I get this crap off here.....lol But then I started eeing stuff like this and it makes me want to try somethings again.
[05:23] <orangeninja> sorry for the flood
[05:23] <chris4585> its all about the configuration
[05:24] <chibihogoshino> thats the fun part
[05:24] <orangeninja> lol, yeah back then i didnt know how to kill jobs....lol
[05:24] <chibihogoshino> back in the day
[05:24] <chris4585> wow, conky's man page is 2790 lines long
[05:25] <chibihogoshino> sweet
[05:25] <orangeninja> yeah back about two or three months ago....I didnt realize that closing term did not stop the job...lol
[05:26] <chibihogoshino> you just started using linux a few months ago ?
[05:28] <orangeninja> really trying to learn with it, yes. I have dabbled here and then for a couple of years. you know, live cd or two. I actually complied gentoo on and old machine a few years back but I did the step by step from the online documantaion
[05:28] <orangeninja> crashed the x server and stopped messing with it
[05:29] <chris4585> you're far braver than I am, I don't think I could do gentoo lol
[05:29] <chris4585> arch is my one true love.. I feel like I'm cheating on arch by using ubuntu :/
[05:30] <orangeninja> well, I still don't know enough about any distro. But I only got so far with gentoo because I fllowed the setup step by step. I still probably could not get it working if I tried now.
[05:31] <chris4585> its alright, even attempting gentoo requires guts I think :<
[05:31] <orangeninja> what was it.... make install ......
[05:33] <orangeninja> I don't understand why gentoo wont make the install a little easier. probably have a lot more try it out.
[05:35] <orangeninja> where did yall go?
[05:35] <chibihogoshino> i kinda mis fighting with slackware
[05:35] <chris4585> well there are distros out there based on gentoo but make things easier (saybaion linux)
[05:35] <chris4585> I think thats how its spelled..
[05:35] <orangeninja> ah
[05:35] <chibihogoshino> thats a bit bloated tho
[05:36] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, I miss arch's aur so much, but ppa's work for now
[05:36] <chris4585> a tiny bit
[05:36] <chibihogoshino> i never used arch
[05:37] <chibihogoshino> i went from slack then redhat, mandrake, mandriva and ubuntu
[05:38] <chibihogoshino> i need to finish clannad
[05:38] <orangeninja> what is that?
[05:38] <chibihogoshino> its a anime
[05:39] <orangeninja> does steam and games run well in wine?
[05:39] <chris4585> steam runs.. but at a snail's pace
[05:39] <orangeninja> I don't do much gaming but I do some
[05:39] <chibihogoshino> i ran half life 2 fine
[05:40] <chris4585> I was surprised civilizations 5 even ran..
[05:40] <chris4585> but its pretty clunky
[05:40] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[05:40] <orangeninja> that is about the only thing holding me back from making my main machine run linux.
[05:40] <chibihogoshino> the start menu was messed up with hl2
[05:43] <chris4585> orangeninja, I dual boot and even then rarely boot into windows to play games... but if I had a totally kickbutt system I'd take windows gaming more seriously
[05:44] <orangeninja> yeah, I have thought about the dual boot but I'll need to redo some partitions on the maind disk.
[05:45] <orangeninja> I built a pretty nice set up about a year ago
[05:45] <chris4585> ah
[05:46] <chris4585> this was a hp media center.. but I upgraded the ram, video card, and power supply, and its served me pretty good
[05:46] <chris4585> I'd just like to get a nice mobo / cpu setup..
[05:47] <orangeninja> 920 i7 2.6ghz, 6 gb ram, evge geforce gtx 260 core 216 x2 sli, bluray, 1 650gb drive, 1 tb drive
[05:48] <chris4585> yeah you beat mine lol
[05:48] <chris4585> os[Linux 2.6.35-25-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "maverick" 10.10] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 3.2GB, 50.1% free] disk[Total: 1.5TB, 57.7% free] video[nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 220]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia2: USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1]
[05:49] <chris4585> simplified.. 2.4ghz dual core, 4gbs ram.. etc..
[05:49] <orangeninja> still pretty nice
[05:50] <chibihogoshino> did anyone see the specs for the ngp ?
[05:50] <chris4585> chibihogoshino, that thing is crazy
[05:50] <chris4585> they have everything but the kitchen sink!
[05:50] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[05:50] <chris4585> if it was decently priced... I might.. just might get one
[05:50] <orangeninja> http://www.flickr.com/photos/30911192@N06/3757347348/
[05:50] <chibihogoshino> they said it wasnt going to be a arm and a leg
[05:51] <chris4585> orangeninja, that looks nice
[05:51] <chris4585> I wish mine was as pretty as that
[05:51] <orangeninja> got a bunch of dust in there now
[05:52] <chibihogoshino> clean setup
[05:52] <chris4585> does anyone know if vlc can broadcast from audio-in to a local network the same time as some video in a single stream?..
[05:52] <chibihogoshino> i have no idea
[05:53] <chris4585> I think its too complicated to work..
[05:53] <chris4585> my tvtuner that does work with linux has a separate audio jack.. and it works, but I'm not sure how because I haven't been able to find the device name for it..
[05:53] <orangeninja> got this off ebay last summer http://www.flickr.com/photos/30911192@N06/3872313116/
[05:54] <chibihogoshino> sweet orangeninja
[05:54] <chris4585> orangeninja, I saw a commodore a few months ago at my local thrift store, I have no idea if it worked though
[05:54] <chibihogoshino> gonna play some platoon ?
[05:54] <orangeninja> maybe gunship......mmmmm
[05:55] <orangeninja> ok i guess i built that computer in 09 lol
[05:56] <chris4585> I think I've had this machine since late 06, and its served me really well
[05:58] <orangeninja> getting something to drink brb
[05:59] <chris4585> lol I just texted my friend "can I call right meow?"
[06:02] <orangeninja> cat calling your friend?
[06:03] <chris4585> have you seen super troopers?
[06:03] <chris4585> it wont be funny unless you've seen it
[06:03] <orangeninja> yep seen it
[06:03] <orangeninja> meow
[06:04] <chris4585> lol ah
[06:04] <orangeninja> where are yall at? Im in Nashville
[06:05] <chris4585> orangeninja, I used to live in Morristown, then Kingston, but moved to florida near tampa
[06:05] <orangeninja> ahhhh fla spy huh
[06:06] <chris4585> oh noes you discovered my top secret plan
[15:01] <mhall119> florida spies are everywhere
[15:44] <cyberanger> some are just slower than others
[15:44] <cyberanger> oh well, that's "intelligence"
[15:45] <cyberanger> ;-)
[15:45] <cyberanger> how's your day mhall119
[16:02] <mhall119> blah
[16:03] <mhall119> clogged kitchen sink
[16:03] <mhall119> no coffee
[16:40] <cyberanger> eek
[16:40]  * cyberanger hands mhall119 some bawls
[16:48] <mhall119> bawls?
[17:30] <exodus_ms> hows everyone today?
[17:31] <exodus_ms> the weather as been awesome
[17:31] <cyberanger> mhall119: energy drink
[17:32] <cyberanger> exodus_ms: not too bad
[17:32] <exodus_ms> cool
[17:32] <cyberanger> just pondering ditching charter and going all celluar again
[17:32] <cyberanger> I love the idea, and hate it too
[17:32] <exodus_ms> whys that?
[17:32] <cyberanger> but the wallet might force my hand
[17:33] <exodus_ms> ah
[17:33] <cyberanger> well, the cost, charter makes it irratiting to be internet only customer, and will charge me more for it too
[17:34]  * cyberanger ponders starting a little pricewar to kickstart things
[17:34] <cyberanger> virgin mobile or t-mobile, 40 bucks and done
[17:35] <cyberanger> unlimited, virgin mobile will throttle after 5GB, T-Mobile after 10GB
[17:35] <exodus_ms> when i ditched charter they told me I could keep Internet only, it would cost only $30 a month and I would have to lock into a 2yr contract
[17:35] <cyberanger> but it would be a mess
[17:35] <cyberanger> they're selling it to me for 40, two year contract (and I own my bloddy modem)
[17:36] <cyberanger> and when I go internet only, I'll be charged another 15 for not being bundled
[17:36] <cyberanger> and they'll try and charge me 20 bucks to disconnect
[17:38] <exodus_ms> I have my own modem as well, from what i was told, $30 a month with a 2yr contract no other fees
[17:38] <exodus_ms> if I choose to disconnect before the 2yr contract is up I would be charged a fee
[17:39] <exodus_ms> but ive disconnected from charter twice since Ive moved into my apartment, both times I was never charged for disconnected the service. I had both cable and Internet
[17:40] <cyberanger> one thing I like about this idea, stick the card in a backpack, I've moved my service
[17:41] <cyberanger> don't buy another top up card (in virgin mobiles case) I've quit my service
[17:41] <cyberanger> buy another card, I've reconnected
[17:41] <exodus_ms> yeah, thats convenient
[17:41] <cyberanger> all without having to go through sales
[17:42] <cyberanger> which seems to assume I've got money to spare
[17:42] <exodus_ms> btw cyberanger do you know how i can stream pandora without using a web browser?
[17:43] <cyberanger> (I'm not saying I'm broke, but things are tight, and they make me fear for that day)
[17:43] <cyberanger> uh, I'll answer that when you get back...