[01:36] how's everything going? [01:36] oh how this channel gets quiet, I swear you could hear a ping drop [01:42] hey guys [01:43] meta-1 [01:43] oops [01:44] hey vychune [01:44] how you doing? [01:44] it was getting so quiet in here, I could hear a ping drop [01:45] LOL! [01:45] working on work, dns nameserver config [01:45] i went to Midsouth Makers [01:45] sweet [01:45] it was great [01:46] hopefully I can get there at some point, gotta cross a long state for it [01:46] present something [01:46] i ate and named the spark dog machine lol [01:46] probally a router mod [01:46] cool [01:46] all i got is an un finished website [01:47] I'm about as far east as I can get without calling it north carolina [01:47] damn [01:47] so it'll be a little while [01:47] wow [01:47] hold on [01:48] yeah, but considering how much I gotta blog, on prior projects, might as well keep the router on ice [01:48] holding on [01:48] im using irssi now [01:49] * cyberanger wonders why the railing I'm holding onto is so sticky [01:49] cool [01:50] i learn how to screen to [01:50] learned [01:50] * cyberanger <3's irssi [01:50] vychune not so much lol [01:51] chris how you doing [01:53] vychune, I'm tired, I volunteered today, you? [01:53] wanted to go to a meeting oh Midsouth Makers today [01:53] my mom went to the Grizzles game [01:54] midsouth makers? [01:54] memphis hackerspace [01:54] ah [01:54] volunteered doing what? [01:54] man, you've been "out of state" too long now chris4585 ;-) [01:54] thanks cyber [01:55] vychune, at my mom's work (thrift store) [01:55] oh cool [01:55] cyberanger, I wouldn't have known that even if I was still in TN lol [01:58] really, 1 7|-|0ug|-|7 0f y0u 45 m0r3 0f 4 h4x0r chris4585 :P [01:59] chi whats up [01:59] cyberanger, nope [01:59] cyber ? [01:59] hey chibihogoshino [01:59] yo cyberanger [01:59] wuz up [01:59] vychune: annoying leetspeek, little bit of a joke [02:00] lol [02:00] chris4585: well, your enough of one to read it ;-) [02:00] chibihogoshino: not too much, working on work [02:00] and chatting [02:00] yeah I was about to say how sad it is I can actually read that [02:00] sweet [02:01] gotta go tho.. im at a coffee shop and its time to leave i guess.. lol [02:01] ok [02:01] peace out yall [02:01] enough time to say hello [02:01] lata [02:01] yeppers [02:01] and I gotta run, heh [02:01] see ya chibihogoshino [02:01] see ya guys [02:01] ill be back on l8tr [02:01] lol [02:42] helloeveryone [02:43] hey wrst [02:43] cyberanger: i find myself fixing another winders install [02:43] it had been quiet all afternoon, I swear I could hear a ping drop [02:44] wrst: rm -Rf /windows/ [02:44] fixed [02:44] quickbooks is a necessary evil here [02:44] but i do agree with you [02:45] well, if your that stuck, might I suggest some wine ;-) [02:45] I know I'm a vodka person myself, but that wine might help you [02:46] i really wouldn't want to attempt it and I don't think quickbooks works very well with it [02:46] well, with that attitude I know you haven't tried, you sound too sober still [02:46] * cyberanger has killed the joke [02:47] well if it werefor my use i would try it maybe but i don't think i would trust wine with mission critical [02:47] true [02:48] but wow taking 10 minutes to get into quickbooks and of course they have lost the cd [02:48] it really needs a wipe clean and restart [03:03] yay.. [03:04] woot [03:05] can i hold a program from starting right away in xsession ? [03:14] delay it's start? [03:14] chibihogoshino, use sleep [03:14] sleep 10s; program-executable [03:14] sleep 10; kill chris4585 [03:15] seems to work fine ;-) [03:15] well that may work in xsession, if not just try creating a script with the contents of sleep [03:15] cyberanger, :P [03:15] opps, got one zombie process [03:15] chibihogoshino, I used sleep a lot to delay processes while using openbox [03:15] hmm.. [03:15] right in the xsession file or in a bash script ? [03:15] either or? [03:16] chibihogoshino, what do you want to delay? [03:16] openbox really is simple, but for gnome I'd make a bash script, delay and excute [03:16] conky from starting right away [03:16] cyberanger, yeah [03:16] then have xsession invoke that [03:16] yes what cyberanger said [03:16] brb [03:16] and pretty much what I said earlier [03:16] lol [03:16] it was, I was just endorsing it [03:17] darn, I'm cleaning my room and I've almost found a home for everything except my baseball bat [03:17] as the better method [03:17] next to your baseball? [03:17] don't own a baseball lol [03:17] I have it purely for enjoyment of knowing I have it, and one day I will beat the living poo out of 'something' :-) [03:18] hehe [03:18] * chris4585 plots against watermelons [03:19] * cyberanger plots against chris4585 [03:19] :O [03:19] if it's a contest of evil, I win [03:20] well I do have some anger issues I need to sort out, not because of any one thing, but for a good while I've just wanted to go all out on a watermelon :D [03:36] * cyberanger hands chris4585 the worlds biggest sledgehammer and smallest watermelon [03:36] oh, and a camera [03:37] lol [03:37] * chris4585 goes bonkers [03:39] * cyberanger expected a little more comical results [03:39] oh I forgot the tape [03:39] :/ [03:41] haha sorry :p [03:46] that's a shame, now we're out of the worlds smallees watermelon [03:47] hey orangeninja [03:48] hey cyberanger [03:50] nmap -sP 192.168.0.1-199 [03:50] ha wrong box [03:52] die hacker scum [03:52] ;-) [03:52] ha, it's my network no hacker here anyway.. [03:52] says the hacker [03:52] :P [03:53] naw, I don't care [03:53] that's why I want to learn lnux so I can be 133t [03:54] sup chibihogoshino [03:54] wb chibihogoshino, how did that thing go? [03:54] trying to get compiz xfce4 and tilda to play nice [03:55] thanks chris4585 [03:55] didnt work [03:55] if i start conky after everything loads its ok but if i use a auto launch it covers tilda [03:56] chibihogoshino, did you try making the geometry of tilda not cover conky or is that a possibility? [03:56] i wish xfce4-session had a no window manager option [03:56] i want tilda to cover it .. [03:57] ah [03:57] its just a blank part of conky .. i have everything on one line but it still has like 3 lines down that are blank [03:57] then in that case, sounds really tricky [03:57] if i could get it all to fit on one line it would be ok [03:58] but conky isnt that great at making things work on one line without all the text moving all around [03:59] chibihogoshino, are you using xfce panel on the bottom or something? [03:59] no [03:59] i use awn [04:00] ah, I'm not sure then, I myself don't really have enough conky-fu to know a fix... [04:00] i load xfce4-session to load all the key bindings and gnome theme stuff [04:01] guess i could try to load gnome-session instead [04:01] chibihogoshino, you just gave me a great idea friend, although it wont help you lol.. [04:01] sweet [04:02] I have a empty space on my screep all the time I can utilize conky for :D [04:02] all the time ? [04:02] * chris4585 goes online to steal a decent conky config to mod the crap out of [04:02] yeah [04:02] how big is it [04:03] how is it all the time [04:04] brb [04:05] hmm [04:06] yall got a scrip to start conky at start up or just starting it in console each time? [04:09] orangeninja, at startup [04:11] cant do it.. [04:11] i cant run gnome [04:12] chibihogoshino, I couldn't find my best recent screenshot [04:12] but http://i.imgur.com/tjFU1.jpg [04:12] to the right of the ubuntu icon (bottom left) that space is shown always [04:15] cool [04:15] wont the bar expand if more programs are open ? [04:16] brb [04:16] yeah but I'll see what will happen.. [04:16] i kinda have the same thing going on.. but at the top is the conky bar [04:20] http://i.imgur.com/p56dc.png this right now is how it looks.. [04:24] ah thats cool [04:24] the only thing that would bug me is the icons [04:25] huh [04:25] why the icons ? [04:26] don't seem to match the overall theme [04:26] yeah.. im trying to work on that [04:27] gnome is just so messed up on the icon part its crazy [04:28] i made a few but its really annoying cuz im not that great at making icons [04:29] I don't think I could... [04:29] I got my desired effect :D [04:29] i would be fine if i could just change the color to match the theme and keep all the icons the same [04:30] I think I'll increase my font a tiny bit.. [04:31] chibihogoshino, http://i.imgur.com/WV3JA.jpg [04:31] ooo thats nice [04:32] why thank you :) [04:32] I have a separate awn instance running very bottom left that intelhides and only has the ubuntu menu [04:33] i thought about doing that but i have the bar loaded at the bottom anyway so i just stuck it all on one [04:34] ah [04:34] i wish i could take the top part of the windows off [04:35] I have key points.. I have muscle memory built now, mouse moves that is, top left = close; top right = session stuff; bottom left = menu; and *usually* bottom left = volume [04:35] last one should be bottom right* [04:36] I have floating gnome-panel with global menu, windows actions and windows title [04:36] thats allot of mouse movement [04:37] why not hot keys ? [04:37] alt f4 to close [04:37] I'm too much of a mouse addict lol [04:37] heh [04:38] while watching / listening to stuff I like to know where the volume icon is exactly without looking and same for closing windows [04:38] the ubuntu menu is a fluke and ended up where it is lol, I rarely use it [04:38] thus why I hide it [04:39] ah [04:39] only reason I don't have awn fully expanded is because the space where conky shows info I need my mouse to be able to scroll to a new desktop [04:39] I'm pretty specific with my desktop.. I get cranky when I don't have it my way lol [04:39] yeah im the same way .. [04:40] it has to do what you want or its not right [04:40] b [04:40] exactly, it feels so limiting [04:40] yeah [04:40] only thing gnome-panel even has to offer me is force quit lol [04:41] didnt know it had that [04:41] i just double click the close icon and a window pops up with a kill option [04:41] ah [04:42] it would be cool to have a database of different desktop configurations and how they got it that way [04:43] would be neat [04:44] i have thought about hiding the bar at the bottom but the icons are notifications too.. so i wouldnt know if something was going on or not [04:47] ah true [04:47] only if there was a do-it-all space saving option [04:48] did yall get your conkies figured out? [04:48] yeah that would be nice [04:48] no [04:48] my notifications if I wanted could be placed in my top gnome-panel but you see my screen is rather large.. and I don't like looking up there lol [04:48] its still messed up [04:48] lol [04:49] something is up with the conky config [04:49] it dosnt transparent the background right [04:49] how big is your monitor chris? I like your setup nice and clean. [04:50] orangeninja, thanks, its a lot of aesthetics, and its 28" [04:51] nice [04:51] thats nice.. i miss my 21" [04:52] i thought i would never get used to a 14" screen [04:52] I have a 21" vizio lcd Im using on desktop [04:53] sweet orangeninja [04:56] I'd like to get a duel setup sometime.... key word sometime [04:57] that would be cool.. or a triple screen [04:57] be nice to have several things up at once......ha ha [04:58] browse the web have irc and play tux racer at the same time [04:58] all about time managment right? [04:59] yepperes [05:00] I learned that unless you have similar monitors it doesn't work well.. [05:01] why ? [05:01] just seems weird [05:01] i had my 21 and a 15 [05:01] used the 15 to watch tv [05:01] just didn't work for me [05:01] yeah I figured if I ever got to do it I would need to buy two exact same monitors [05:02] yeah I messed with it with different monitors and not great. different size and resolutions [05:03] but if you set it up for two different desktops i guess it might work better. [05:03] on same computer of course [05:03] thats what i did [05:04] i love curry [05:06] the food? [05:06] yeah [05:08] eating some now or just thinking about curry? ha [05:08] i made some curry rice [05:08] nice, that is one type of food I have not had yet. I need to try some out [05:09] you never had rice ? [05:11] curry [05:11] nevery had any indian food [05:11] oh [05:11] its amazing [05:16] are you starting conky with terminal or scriping it to start on boot? [05:17] on boot ? [05:17] that would be before x starts [05:18] im starting it with super key c [05:18] till i figure out why its messed up [05:18] I thought conky was all texted based anyway? [05:19] I dont really know anything about other than I have seen some cools tuff with it. [05:19] oh speaking of conky.. [05:19] * chris4585 finds link [05:20] can you lock it down to be kind of like it is part of the desktop walpaper? [05:20] the first one mentioned is seriously badass http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/five-seriously-cool-conky-set-ups-for-linux-desktop/ [05:20] orangeninja, it just sits on the desktop, and has a billion options [05:21] I didn't even know the text in conky could be tilted.. unless thats a trick.. [05:21] orangeninja: yeah it kinda becomes part of the desktop [05:22] looks awesome. [05:22] i think the tilted text is with lua [05:23] the first time I messed with it I just rand conky in term and started it, then I was like how do I get this crap off here.....lol But then I started eeing stuff like this and it makes me want to try somethings again. [05:23] sorry for the flood [05:23] its all about the configuration [05:24] thats the fun part [05:24] lol, yeah back then i didnt know how to kill jobs....lol [05:24] back in the day [05:24] wow, conky's man page is 2790 lines long [05:25] sweet [05:25] yeah back about two or three months ago....I didnt realize that closing term did not stop the job...lol [05:26] you just started using linux a few months ago ? [05:28] really trying to learn with it, yes. I have dabbled here and then for a couple of years. you know, live cd or two. I actually complied gentoo on and old machine a few years back but I did the step by step from the online documantaion [05:28] crashed the x server and stopped messing with it [05:29] you're far braver than I am, I don't think I could do gentoo lol [05:29] arch is my one true love.. I feel like I'm cheating on arch by using ubuntu :/ [05:30] well, I still don't know enough about any distro. But I only got so far with gentoo because I fllowed the setup step by step. I still probably could not get it working if I tried now. [05:31] its alright, even attempting gentoo requires guts I think :< [05:31] what was it.... make install ...... [05:33] I don't understand why gentoo wont make the install a little easier. probably have a lot more try it out. [05:35] where did yall go? [05:35] i kinda mis fighting with slackware [05:35] well there are distros out there based on gentoo but make things easier (saybaion linux) [05:35] I think thats how its spelled.. [05:35] ah [05:35] thats a bit bloated tho [05:36] chibihogoshino, I miss arch's aur so much, but ppa's work for now [05:36] a tiny bit [05:36] i never used arch [05:37] i went from slack then redhat, mandrake, mandriva and ubuntu [05:38] i need to finish clannad [05:38] what is that? [05:38] its a anime [05:39] does steam and games run well in wine? [05:39] steam runs.. but at a snail's pace [05:39] I don't do much gaming but I do some [05:39] i ran half life 2 fine [05:40] I was surprised civilizations 5 even ran.. [05:40] but its pretty clunky [05:40] yeah [05:40] that is about the only thing holding me back from making my main machine run linux. [05:40] the start menu was messed up with hl2 [05:43] orangeninja, I dual boot and even then rarely boot into windows to play games... but if I had a totally kickbutt system I'd take windows gaming more seriously [05:44] yeah, I have thought about the dual boot but I'll need to redo some partitions on the maind disk. [05:45] I built a pretty nice set up about a year ago [05:45] ah [05:46] this was a hp media center.. but I upgraded the ram, video card, and power supply, and its served me pretty good [05:46] I'd just like to get a nice mobo / cpu setup.. [05:47] 920 i7 2.6ghz, 6 gb ram, evge geforce gtx 260 core 216 x2 sli, bluray, 1 650gb drive, 1 tb drive [05:48] yeah you beat mine lol [05:48] os[Linux 2.6.35-25-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "maverick" 10.10] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 3.2GB, 50.1% free] disk[Total: 1.5TB, 57.7% free] video[nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 220]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia2: USB-Audio - USB Camera-B4.04.27.1] [05:49] simplified.. 2.4ghz dual core, 4gbs ram.. etc.. [05:49] still pretty nice [05:50] did anyone see the specs for the ngp ? [05:50] chibihogoshino, that thing is crazy [05:50] they have everything but the kitchen sink! [05:50] yeah [05:50] if it was decently priced... I might.. just might get one [05:50] http://www.flickr.com/photos/30911192@N06/3757347348/ [05:50] they said it wasnt going to be a arm and a leg [05:51] orangeninja, that looks nice [05:51] I wish mine was as pretty as that [05:51] got a bunch of dust in there now [05:52] clean setup [05:52] does anyone know if vlc can broadcast from audio-in to a local network the same time as some video in a single stream?.. [05:52] i have no idea [05:53] I think its too complicated to work.. [05:53] my tvtuner that does work with linux has a separate audio jack.. and it works, but I'm not sure how because I haven't been able to find the device name for it.. [05:53] got this off ebay last summer http://www.flickr.com/photos/30911192@N06/3872313116/ [05:54] sweet orangeninja [05:54] orangeninja, I saw a commodore a few months ago at my local thrift store, I have no idea if it worked though [05:54] gonna play some platoon ? [05:54] maybe gunship......mmmmm [05:55] ok i guess i built that computer in 09 lol [05:56] I think I've had this machine since late 06, and its served me really well [05:58] getting something to drink brb [05:59] lol I just texted my friend "can I call right meow?" [06:02] cat calling your friend? [06:03] have you seen super troopers? [06:03] it wont be funny unless you've seen it [06:03] yep seen it [06:03] meow [06:04] lol ah [06:04] where are yall at? Im in Nashville [06:05] orangeninja, I used to live in Morristown, then Kingston, but moved to florida near tampa [06:05] ahhhh fla spy huh [06:06] oh noes you discovered my top secret plan [15:01] florida spies are everywhere [15:44] some are just slower than others [15:44] oh well, that's "intelligence" [15:45] ;-) [15:45] how's your day mhall119 [16:02] blah [16:03] clogged kitchen sink [16:03] no coffee [16:40] eek [16:40] * cyberanger hands mhall119 some bawls [16:48] bawls? [17:30] hows everyone today? [17:31] the weather as been awesome [17:31] mhall119: energy drink [17:32] exodus_ms: not too bad [17:32] cool [17:32] just pondering ditching charter and going all celluar again [17:32] I love the idea, and hate it too [17:32] whys that? [17:32] but the wallet might force my hand [17:33] ah [17:33] well, the cost, charter makes it irratiting to be internet only customer, and will charge me more for it too [17:34] * cyberanger ponders starting a little pricewar to kickstart things [17:34] virgin mobile or t-mobile, 40 bucks and done [17:35] unlimited, virgin mobile will throttle after 5GB, T-Mobile after 10GB [17:35] when i ditched charter they told me I could keep Internet only, it would cost only $30 a month and I would have to lock into a 2yr contract [17:35] but it would be a mess [17:35] they're selling it to me for 40, two year contract (and I own my bloddy modem) [17:36] and when I go internet only, I'll be charged another 15 for not being bundled [17:36] and they'll try and charge me 20 bucks to disconnect [17:38] I have my own modem as well, from what i was told, $30 a month with a 2yr contract no other fees [17:38] if I choose to disconnect before the 2yr contract is up I would be charged a fee [17:39] but ive disconnected from charter twice since Ive moved into my apartment, both times I was never charged for disconnected the service. I had both cable and Internet [17:40] one thing I like about this idea, stick the card in a backpack, I've moved my service [17:41]