=== Amaranth__ is now known as Amaranth === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:30] hi Alexia_Death [17:31] hi [21:09] bryceh, i think synaptic is busted. did the new evdev or anything else in the new stack break stuff? touchpad clicks are broken. minimal pointer accuracy. jumping cursor. [21:10] usb mice seem to be fine [21:39] anyone? [22:34] LLStarks: Oh, really? BAh. [22:35] LLStarks: Are you actually *using* synaptics, or evdev? [22:36] synaptics according to xorg logs [22:41] So, there is a new synaptics, and it pretty drastically changed the acceleration infrastructure. [22:42] Although, for the touchpads *I* tested on, it resulted in subjectively better behaviour. [22:42] Touchpad clicks work for me; Xorg.0.log might possibly be useful. [23:01] http://pastebin.com/C5KV22fJ [23:02] synaptics is terrible right now. the point can't even stay stationary if your finger is. [23:02] *pointer [23:04] raof, is the previous version abi compatible with the new stack? [23:04] That's because you appear to be using evdev, rather than synaptics. [23:04] oh, am i? [23:04] Yes: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Applying InputClass "evdev touchpad catchall" [23:04] Do you have the synaptics driver installed? :) [23:05] yes. [23:05] 1.3.99+git20110116.0e27ce3a-0ubuntu1 [23:05] Well, that's rather disappointing. [23:06] how do i force synaptics and why isn't it being used? [23:06] i don't mind using my mx510, but i'd rather not drag it everywhere [23:06] <_< [23:07] The server doesn't appear to be even loading the synaptics module. [23:07] Can you pastebin the contents of /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d ? [23:08] eric@kingfisher:/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d$ dir [23:08] 10-evdev.conf 50-vmmouse.conf 60-magictrackpad.conf [23:08] 50-synaptics.conf 51-synaptics-quirks.conf [23:09] i didn't even know evdev were a fallback for touchpads [23:09] i thought they used -mouse [23:10] does alps use evdev? [23:10] No. [23:10] Touchpads use synaptics, everything else* uses evdev [23:10] * Barring special things like wacom. [23:10] ah [23:12] Well, and the magic trackpad, which gets evdev because that's where gesture support is. [23:16] x gesture support is so confusing. there's utouch and then there's the gesture extension. [23:16] i dun get it [23:16] Utouch is the userspace component. [23:16] The gesture extension is a (temporary, it turns out) server-side support for it. [23:23] i see [23:24] any insight on the evdev-over-synaptics? [23:25] Not really. [23:26] Perhaps the udev log would be helpful? [23:26] Because synaptics *should* be picking up your touchpad as a touchpad. [23:26] what file? [23:29] udevadm --query=all --name /dev/input/event8 [23:30] can't query all [23:32] grr. all options are unrecognized. [23:32] Does “udevadm --query=all --name=/dev/input/event8” work? [23:32] Bah! “udevadm info --query=all --name=/dev/input/event8” work? [23:41] yar [23:41] http://pastebin.com/hA8G3jmR [23:44] And can you pastebin /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf ? [23:45] http://pastebin.com/yndbtBwS [23:46] Ok. I'm now officially confused. [23:47] I don't see why that shouldn't match your touchpad.