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Kilosmorning all08:56
Morganvdmorning09:30
Tonberryhi09:30
Kiloshi Morganvd Tonberry 09:31
Tonberryis it possible to compile a .deb for ubuntu 10.04 from a 10.10 box?10:23
tumbleweedTonberry: yes. Some things (i.e. perl, php, some python) will build the same debs on 10.04 and 10.10. Otherwise you can use something like pbuilder to create a 10.04 chroot and build things in it.10:25
Tonberryi see10:26
tumbleweedoh, and obviously you could use a launchpad PPA to build it for 10.04 for you.10:26
bmg505Hello, trying to get used to this after 16+ years of slackware is quite an experience16:54
superflyhi bmg50516:55
drubinhi and welcome bmg505 16:58
Symmetriaok17:01
Symmetriamirror.ac.za is back online completely reinstalled 17:01
Symmetriaand working 100% 17:01
Symmetriaits tcp stack has been properly optimized, the 10G nic seems a lot happier, and the large file systems are up and running 17:01
nlsthznHey all :)17:24
Symmetria[19:27] <@ytti> why the egyptians got angry now?17:32
Symmetria[19:27] <@Lysis> because the streets are too crowded without internet17:32
Symmetria[19:27] <@Lysis> they couldn'T walk like an egyptian anymore17:32
nlsthznSymmetria, :/ hope it doesn't get to ugly there17:34
Symmetrianlsthzn heh17:34
Symmetria2 late for that17:34
Symmetriathe army was refusing to help, so the latest news is that now the airforce is flying fighter jets low over the crowds to try scare em away17:34
Symmetriacrowd is ignoring the jets as well17:34
Symmetriaand I mean, wtf they gonna do with the jets, drop some missiles on the crowd? yeah right 17:35
nlsthznSymmetria: :( sad when ppl have to revert to this17:35
superflynlsthzn: I think the word you are looking for is "resort", not "revert" ;-)18:16
nlsthznsuperfly: yes, thanks ;)18:17
inetproeish18:27
nlsthznhi inetpro, why the eish?18:29
inetpronlsthzn: sad that they have to resort to fighter jets in egypt now18:30
nlsthznyup... 18:30
inetproMaaz: Symmetria ++ [ for looking after mirror.ac.za ]18:32
inetproSymmetria: thanks for all your efforts if that18:33
inetpros/if/with/18:33
drubinSymmetria: Now you need to explain to WebAfrica they need to keep theirs running :)18:37
Symmetriadrubin I told webafrica not to run the damn thing in the first place18:41
Symmetriasince its kinda pointless18:41
drubinSymmetria: just convince them to add mirror.ac.za to their freezone18:42
Symmetriathey have a GigE connection to us, which is barely used above 40megabit, they dont have the proper hardware or the disk space to run a real mirror, nor do they have the resources to keep it properly synched 18:42
Symmetriadrubin thats what I told em all along18:42
drubinSymmetria: Please try again :)18:42
Symmetriaheh inetpro did ya see my pretty disk upgrade in mirror.ac.za?18:42
inetproSymmetria: I noticed you talking about it, how much you having now?18:43
Symmetria./dev/sdb3             1.3T  227G  974G  19% /diskspace18:43
Symmetria./dev/sda              6.8T  4.5T  2.2T  68% /diskspace218:43
Symmetria./dev/sdc               13T   13T  243G  99% /diskspace318:43
Symmetria./dev/sdd               26T  282G   26T   2% /diskspace418:43
inetproyikes18:44
Symmetriaheh, diskspace4 is the new one18:44
Symmetriawe did that in preperation for sourceforge which we're now just waiting for sourceforge on18:44
inetproSymmetria: very nice18:44
nlsthznThats a lot of bytes oO18:44
Symmetriaapparently they woulda already given us the info to get it started if they hadnt had the security shit htey had in the last few days18:44
inetproSymmetria: you're running out of space on disk 3 :-)18:45
Symmetriainetpro yeah its busy transferring 7 terabytes onto /diskspace418:45
Symmetriabut that takes forever :)18:45
Symmetriaheh, inetpro we also did something about the synch speeds as well to sort out sync isues18:46
Symmetriawill show u something in a second18:46
bmg505worst is old Bob is getting ideas :(18:46
* inetpro wonders what is the fastest way of transferring between partitions18:46
inetpros/fastest way/fastest method/18:47
bmg505mount both with tar maybe? tar -cf - * |(cd /target; tar -cpf - --same-owner)18:48
bmg505or old dd18:49
Symmetriaroot@jhb:/diskspace4# wget -4 -O /dev/null ftp://ftp.belnet.be/debian-cd/5.0.8/amd64/iso-cd/debian-508-amd64-CD-23.iso18:49
Symmetria--2011-01-30 20:47:26--  ftp://ftp.belnet.be/debian-cd/5.0.8/amd64/iso-cd/debian-508-amd64-CD-23.iso18:49
Symmetria           => `/dev/null'18:49
SymmetriaLength: 657008640 (627M) (unauthoritative)18:49
Symmetria100%[==============================================================================================================================================================>] 657,008,640 33.4M/s   in 37s18:49
Symmetria2011-01-30 20:48:06 (16.8 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [657008640]18:49
Symmetriaheh18:49
Symmetriathats an international transfer 18:49
Symmetriaand actually, was running a LOT faster earlier, I think belnet must be synching right now 18:49
Symmetriawe optimized to the point where using multiple parallel sessions we can sync 4.5gigs of data from london in 56 seconds 18:50
bmg505and here we are measuring ourselfs at bits/day :)18:50
inetproSymmetria: looks slow to me based on previous figures from you18:50
inetpro:-18:50
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Symmetriainetpro yeah, earlier in the day I was doing 85MBytes/second 18:50
Symmetriaooops18:50
Symmetria85Mbit/second18:50
Symmetria:P which I think was pretty much capping out belnet's lan card18:50
inetproSymmetria: I'm sure you must be getting grey by now with all your available bandwidth while seeing everyone else being the bottleneck18:52
* Symmetria checks it from london again to make sure nothing broke18:52
Symmetriaheh inetpro its frustrating actually when we sit with this much bandwidth and there are times when you need to transfer stuff to other people in country18:52
Symmetriaor get stuff from them18:52
Symmetriaand you gotta sit and watch it crawl cause of the crap bandwidth at other isps18:53
Symmetriaheh18:54
Symmetria[  3] 30.0-60.0 sec  2.54 GBytes    728 Mbits/sec18:54
Symmetriathats london -> south africa18:54
Symmetriain 30 seconds 18:54
nlsthznoO18:54
inetproSymmetria: sounds like in the old days around 1995 when we were on 64kbps lines while everyone else was on 9600bps18:54
nlsthzn33.6kbps modems rocked18:55
Symmetriawierd thing is, linux actually sometimes performs better with high speed latency stuff if the window size is actually SMALLER18:55
Symmetria(which I suspect is because of pull back on the odd dropped frame)18:56
inetpronlsthzn: heh, I remember synchronising our financial system from data all over the country with a 2400bps modem18:57
Symmetriaheh I remeber doing FSP on 64kbit lines18:58
inetprowas a lot of fun18:58
Symmetria:P it used to take an age to download a game that was a 1.4meg disk big18:58
Symmetriaand then some bastard came out with monkey island that was like, super huge 18:58
Symmetriaand it took us a week and a half to download it18:58
Symmetriaheh19:00
Symmetriaiperf keeps dying on me19:01
Symmetriathe moment it gets really fast19:01
Symmetriadon't one of you feel like debugging iperf fo rme19:03
Symmetriasince its been so long since I coded anything I dont think I can remeber any of my debugging skills19:03
inetproSymmetria: do you get errors?19:11
Symmetriainetpro heh no19:14
Symmetriait just locks up 19:14
Symmetriathe moment you start using real big window sizes19:14
Symmetriaand the data transfer speeds get high19:14
Symmetriathen you get a coupla lines of b.s output19:14
Symmetria[  3] 60.0-75.0 sec  1.75 GBytes  1.00 Gbits/sec19:15
Symmetria[  3] 75.0-90.0 sec  1.41 GBytes    810 Mbits/sec19:15
Symmetria[  3] 90.0-105.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec19:15
Symmetria[  3] 105.0-120.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec19:15
Symmetria[  3] 120.0-135.0 sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec19:15
Symmetria^^ and thats a load of crap :)19:15
Symmetriaoh well, will figure it out in the morning19:16
Symmetriaam going to get some sleep :)19:16
bmg505probably pointer problem, or 64k segment that wraps19:18
inetprogood night Symmetria19:23
Symmetriahrm21:12
SymmetriaIm trying to figure out what exactly they are trying to do with bgp now21:12
Symmetriasome how putting pki into the routing tables21:12

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