[08:56] morning all [09:30] morning [09:30] hi [09:31] hi Morganvd Tonberry [10:23] is it possible to compile a .deb for ubuntu 10.04 from a 10.10 box? [10:25] Tonberry: yes. Some things (i.e. perl, php, some python) will build the same debs on 10.04 and 10.10. Otherwise you can use something like pbuilder to create a 10.04 chroot and build things in it. [10:26] i see [10:26] oh, and obviously you could use a launchpad PPA to build it for 10.04 for you. [16:54] Hello, trying to get used to this after 16+ years of slackware is quite an experience [16:55] hi bmg505 [16:58] hi and welcome bmg505 [17:01] ok [17:01] mirror.ac.za is back online completely reinstalled [17:01] and working 100% [17:01] its tcp stack has been properly optimized, the 10G nic seems a lot happier, and the large file systems are up and running [17:24] Hey all :) [17:32] [19:27] <@ytti> why the egyptians got angry now? [17:32] [19:27] <@Lysis> because the streets are too crowded without internet [17:32] [19:27] <@Lysis> they couldn'T walk like an egyptian anymore [17:34] Symmetria, :/ hope it doesn't get to ugly there [17:34] nlsthzn heh [17:34] 2 late for that [17:34] the army was refusing to help, so the latest news is that now the airforce is flying fighter jets low over the crowds to try scare em away [17:34] crowd is ignoring the jets as well [17:35] and I mean, wtf they gonna do with the jets, drop some missiles on the crowd? yeah right [17:35] Symmetria: :( sad when ppl have to revert to this [18:16] nlsthzn: I think the word you are looking for is "resort", not "revert" ;-) [18:17] superfly: yes, thanks ;) [18:27] eish [18:29] hi inetpro, why the eish? [18:30] nlsthzn: sad that they have to resort to fighter jets in egypt now [18:30] yup... [18:32] Maaz: Symmetria ++ [ for looking after mirror.ac.za ] [18:33] Symmetria: thanks for all your efforts if that [18:33] s/if/with/ [18:37] Symmetria: Now you need to explain to WebAfrica they need to keep theirs running :) [18:41] drubin I told webafrica not to run the damn thing in the first place [18:41] since its kinda pointless [18:42] Symmetria: just convince them to add mirror.ac.za to their freezone [18:42] they have a GigE connection to us, which is barely used above 40megabit, they dont have the proper hardware or the disk space to run a real mirror, nor do they have the resources to keep it properly synched [18:42] drubin thats what I told em all along [18:42] Symmetria: Please try again :) [18:42] heh inetpro did ya see my pretty disk upgrade in mirror.ac.za? [18:43] Symmetria: I noticed you talking about it, how much you having now? [18:43] ./dev/sdb3 1.3T 227G 974G 19% /diskspace [18:43] ./dev/sda 6.8T 4.5T 2.2T 68% /diskspace2 [18:43] ./dev/sdc 13T 13T 243G 99% /diskspace3 [18:43] ./dev/sdd 26T 282G 26T 2% /diskspace4 [18:44] yikes [18:44] heh, diskspace4 is the new one [18:44] we did that in preperation for sourceforge which we're now just waiting for sourceforge on [18:44] Symmetria: very nice [18:44] Thats a lot of bytes oO [18:44] apparently they woulda already given us the info to get it started if they hadnt had the security shit htey had in the last few days [18:45] Symmetria: you're running out of space on disk 3 :-) [18:45] inetpro yeah its busy transferring 7 terabytes onto /diskspace4 [18:45] but that takes forever :) [18:46] heh, inetpro we also did something about the synch speeds as well to sort out sync isues [18:46] will show u something in a second [18:46] worst is old Bob is getting ideas :( [18:46] * inetpro wonders what is the fastest way of transferring between partitions [18:47] s/fastest way/fastest method/ [18:48] mount both with tar maybe? tar -cf - * |(cd /target; tar -cpf - --same-owner) [18:49] or old dd [18:49] root@jhb:/diskspace4# wget -4 -O /dev/null ftp://ftp.belnet.be/debian-cd/5.0.8/amd64/iso-cd/debian-508-amd64-CD-23.iso [18:49] --2011-01-30 20:47:26-- ftp://ftp.belnet.be/debian-cd/5.0.8/amd64/iso-cd/debian-508-amd64-CD-23.iso [18:49] => `/dev/null' [18:49] Length: 657008640 (627M) (unauthoritative) [18:49] 100%[==============================================================================================================================================================>] 657,008,640 33.4M/s in 37s [18:49] 2011-01-30 20:48:06 (16.8 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [657008640] [18:49] heh [18:49] thats an international transfer [18:49] and actually, was running a LOT faster earlier, I think belnet must be synching right now [18:50] we optimized to the point where using multiple parallel sessions we can sync 4.5gigs of data from london in 56 seconds [18:50] and here we are measuring ourselfs at bits/day :) [18:50] Symmetria: looks slow to me based on previous figures from you [18:50] :- [18:50] ) [18:50] inetpro yeah, earlier in the day I was doing 85MBytes/second [18:50] ooops [18:50] 85Mbit/second [18:50] :P which I think was pretty much capping out belnet's lan card [18:52] Symmetria: I'm sure you must be getting grey by now with all your available bandwidth while seeing everyone else being the bottleneck [18:52] * Symmetria checks it from london again to make sure nothing broke [18:52] heh inetpro its frustrating actually when we sit with this much bandwidth and there are times when you need to transfer stuff to other people in country [18:52] or get stuff from them [18:53] and you gotta sit and watch it crawl cause of the crap bandwidth at other isps [18:54] heh [18:54] [ 3] 30.0-60.0 sec 2.54 GBytes 728 Mbits/sec [18:54] thats london -> south africa [18:54] in 30 seconds [18:54] oO [18:54] Symmetria: sounds like in the old days around 1995 when we were on 64kbps lines while everyone else was on 9600bps [18:55] 33.6kbps modems rocked [18:55] wierd thing is, linux actually sometimes performs better with high speed latency stuff if the window size is actually SMALLER [18:56] (which I suspect is because of pull back on the odd dropped frame) [18:57] nlsthzn: heh, I remember synchronising our financial system from data all over the country with a 2400bps modem [18:58] heh I remeber doing FSP on 64kbit lines [18:58] was a lot of fun [18:58] :P it used to take an age to download a game that was a 1.4meg disk big [18:58] and then some bastard came out with monkey island that was like, super huge [18:58] and it took us a week and a half to download it [19:00] heh [19:01] iperf keeps dying on me [19:01] the moment it gets really fast [19:03] don't one of you feel like debugging iperf fo rme [19:03] since its been so long since I coded anything I dont think I can remeber any of my debugging skills [19:11] Symmetria: do you get errors? [19:14] inetpro heh no [19:14] it just locks up [19:14] the moment you start using real big window sizes [19:14] and the data transfer speeds get high [19:14] then you get a coupla lines of b.s output [19:15] [ 3] 60.0-75.0 sec 1.75 GBytes 1.00 Gbits/sec [19:15] [ 3] 75.0-90.0 sec 1.41 GBytes 810 Mbits/sec [19:15] [ 3] 90.0-105.0 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec [19:15] [ 3] 105.0-120.0 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec [19:15] [ 3] 120.0-135.0 sec 0.00 Bytes 0.00 bits/sec [19:15] ^^ and thats a load of crap :) [19:16] oh well, will figure it out in the morning [19:16] am going to get some sleep :) [19:18] probably pointer problem, or 64k segment that wraps [19:23] good night Symmetria [21:12] hrm [21:12] Im trying to figure out what exactly they are trying to do with bgp now [21:12] some how putting pki into the routing tables