[00:33] Riddell: We you able to get into the arm box ok? [00:49] ScottK: yes, can I just do make -j8 to get things to compile on icecream? [01:45] valorie: you ar cool beans and hot chilli [01:45] Just saying [01:51] Daskreech: lol +1 [03:00] Daskreech: always nice to hear, but to what do I owe the honor? [03:00] Just saying :) [03:07] :-) [06:04] Riddell: -j5 [06:04] there are only 4 arms [06:05] shadeslayer: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=129643072207119&w=2 great job [06:36] did shadeslayer break it? [06:46] yes [06:46] toma locked down git.kde.org [06:46] no more clones shall be made he said [06:46] and emitted some evil laugh [06:47] after that he disappeared into the dark and was never seen or heared of again [06:47] supposedly he went to bed [06:47] ;) [06:47] lol [06:47] well, I think everything is unlocked again, although I haven't tried [06:47] well then since the LinuxTag call for papers was, as I predicted, prelonged... lets write some stuff [06:48] using anongit for everything now.... [06:48] well, anongit was not locked anyway, anongit and git are two different servers I believe [06:48] the former is just a "mirror" of the latter [06:48] (or at least it used to be that way with svn) [06:49] "How to change your wallpaper" or "Everything you always wanted to know about the KDE desktop" [06:49] that is an incredibly long title [06:50] you mean you could teach me how to use Activities? [06:50] I've been meaning to learn [06:50] how to change your wallpaper [06:50] heh [06:51] oh [06:51] surely no one gets a talk that simple? [06:51] I could teach THAT [06:51] aaron only today wrote a mail to the plasma list [06:51] he wants to break everything again by swapping around paradigms [06:51] of course [06:52] valorie: the how to change your wallpaper part is only to annoy people :P [06:52] in fact it is about how to change your wallaper using get hot new stuff [06:52] muahahahah [06:52] :-) [06:54] Nightrose: do you have a talk going for linuxtag? [07:02] valorie: what could me be talking about? [07:07] is linuxtag just a general geekfest? [07:07] I've only gone to one thing like that, linux fest northwest [07:07] planning on going again with my son [07:08] I hope the beer is as good as last year! [07:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinuxTag [07:08] although I might drink half a glass less [07:08] hopefully [07:08] mhh beer [07:08] * apachelogger is looking forward to brussels because of the beer :D [07:08] not only was it free, it was GOOD [07:09] I dunno who got the kegs donated, but I sooooo approved [07:10] wow, that looks huge [07:10] much bigger than the one I've attended [07:10] government sponsorship, awesome! [07:10] * apachelogger can barely remember [07:10] you should talk about sound in Linux! [07:10] I always get forced into drinking too much beer at linuxtag [07:11] forced, heh [07:11] then again, I always do... [07:11] valorie: "how linux is crap and everyone should use darwin"? [07:13] my, you're in a cynical mood [07:13] * valorie shares the whisky [07:13] * apachelogger had 7h of sleep [07:13] adjust your attitude, sir [07:13] well [07:13] you said I should talk about sound [07:14] one can only talk about it being crappy as that is what it is [07:14] no, how you are fighting the good fight, and making sound in linux GOOD [07:14] focus on the goal! [07:14] the goal for me is darwing and coreaudio :P [07:14] agreed that it is crappy now [07:15] ~np [07:15] valorie hasn't played anything recently [07:15] kubotu, you lie [07:15] hm [07:15] or you imagine things? [07:15] maybe your playback is broken for months [07:15] * valorie is listening to Gold Guns Girls by Metric on Fantasies [Amarok] [07:16] works in #amarok [07:16] and you just came to term with things and have music going on in your head? [07:16] lol [07:16] sometimes I do hear it when there is nothing playing [07:16] * valorie makes an appointment with the shrink [07:16] it is a sign of madness you know [07:16] still -- free music, not a thing to laugh at [07:17] especially Metric [07:17] well [07:17] is it *free* music [07:17] as in libre [07:17] no [07:17] well [07:17] I have some of that as well [07:17] then you better be careful [07:17] but..... [07:17] if you have free music going on in your head [07:17] ... [07:17] lol [07:17] if the industry finds out [07:17] they will sue yer arse off [07:18] indeed [07:18] just like that [07:18] rofl [07:18] Brad Sucks gives his music for free, and he's good! [07:18] some of the classical is good too [07:21] valorie: good luck in court with trying to proof that you were only listening to classical music... [07:21] this is a dangerous game you are playing there :S [07:21] you cannot possibly win [07:23] * apachelogger just scared himself [07:24] haha [07:24] Tm_T just pointed out archive.org [07:24] more music there than you could listen to in a lifetime [07:25] all free [07:25] eat THAT, RIAA [07:25] valorie: I'm sure they can come up with an excuse to sue you over that too [07:26] well, I paid for this Metric [07:26] and since I have earphones on, they can't sue me for providing it to the cat, gratis [07:26] so I'm safe for tonight [07:27] I've seen a bizarre attempts to sue people over listening with the headpones a bit too loud [07:29] someone needs to go all wikileaks on the RIAA [07:30] ~np [07:30] valoriez listened to "Front Row" by Metric [Fantasies, 2009] 4 minutes ago; [http://open.spotify.com/track/6QxBZKSFsoVOVQF0XSvLmW] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/valoriez for more [07:30] thanks, kubotu [08:32] apachelogger: no talk from me no - don't think i'll be able to go [08:32] oh [08:32] ohhh [08:32] :'( [08:32] today is a crap [08:32] only bad news [08:32] *hug* [08:38] * apachelogger snuggles the Nightrose [09:27] debfx: if your offer is still up to dat then yes [11:01] Quintasan: thanks but apachelogger already uploaded it === seiflotfy_ is now known as seiflotfy === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [11:57] jussi: you'll get kajongg in 4.6.1 (kde bug 264884) [11:57] KDE bug 264884 in general "kajongg doesn't install some modules" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264884 [11:58] yofel: :) [11:58] packaging is missing some more, but that's the reason I got stuck yesterday [12:02] yofel: nice work, thanks for investigating :) [12:44] hmmmmmmmmmm [13:09] Riddell: what do we need to test with this qt-gstreamer? [13:10] Quintasan: lintian I think [13:12] apachelogger: i wish i had that amount of bandwidth to take down git.kde.org [13:12] :P [13:12] it would take me 42 years to clone git.kde.org [13:13] shadeslayer: do you clone git.kde.org to bazaar? [13:13] no [13:14] ari-tczew: we use anongit [13:14] also git.kde.org needs your ssh key to be in i.k.o [13:14] i.e you need a dev account to clone from git.kde.org [13:15] now who would have that amount of bandwidth AND a developer account [13:15] * shadeslayer looks at apachelogger [13:22] there were a few git.kde.org imports on launchpad (mostly from me), I converted those [13:22] so I guess you can blame me more than shadeslayer for taking down git.kde.org [13:23] whut [13:23] yofel: you cant import from git.kde [13:23] well ... launchpad cant [13:23] well, it was possible [13:23] *was* [13:23] it asks for your ssh keys etc [13:23] oh [13:23] and [13:23] Quintasan: y u retire my ktorrent branch? [13:23] the branches error out since yesterday, so I got rid of them [13:23] what? [13:23] shadeslayer: that was me probably [13:24] use anongit!!! [13:24] O_O [13:24] since it was from git.kde.org [13:24] oh yes [13:24] there's a new one [13:24] y u no check before accusing me? [13:24] Quintasan: sorry :) [13:24] have a cookie [13:24] not only you made me double yofel's effort and now u think I delete ur branches :S [13:25] OM NOM NOM [13:25] thanks [13:25] kubotu: send cookies to Quintasan nao! [13:25] Riddell: Want me to upload this thing? [13:25] Riddell: It builds fine and lintian spews no errors on dsc file [13:25] you can upload cookies? [13:25] lol [13:25] qt-gstreamer [13:25] O_O .... i want the kubuntu-dev powa now [13:26] apply for it then [13:26] then i can install project-neon-kookies [13:26] and chomp all day long [13:27] our repos is already full, no place for cookies [13:27] nor kookies [13:27] how about we ask for more space? :D [13:27] LP admins gotta love us [13:28] only if we share some kookies [13:28] i dont want to share [13:28] :P [13:29] yofel: im deleting that branch [13:29] since its of no use [13:29] try it, I think I couldn't, or it would already be gone [13:30] new one is https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/ktorrent/master [13:30] Quintasan: go for it [13:30] bah [13:30] _Groo_ has a packaging recipe based on it [13:30] yep [13:30] * Quintasan uses his kubuntu-dev magic [13:31] or not [13:32] Quintasan: is bug 702706 [13:32] Launchpad bug 702706 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] QtGstreamer should be packaged" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702706 [13:33] ill ask him to delete his recipe [13:33] Riddell: okay, I'll close it with 1ubuntu1 upload [13:34] shadeslayer: he just needs to switch the main branch to the new one [13:35] * shadeslayer puts it in a email [13:36] done [13:47] Riddell: uploading === larsivi_ is now known as larsivi [13:57] Riddell: Use -j5, but yes. [13:57] Oh. I see apachelogger told you that already. [14:06] yay, kernel panic. anything i can do for the devs there? [14:09] Riddell: I've prepared some fixes for qtmobility but I suspect there are more armel symbol failures: http://people.ubuntu.com/~debfx/qtmobility_1.1.0-0ubuntu4.debdiff [14:32] debfx: yes I'm compiling it on arm now to find out [14:52] I want to install kde 4.5 updates which ppa should I select [14:53] also does that ppa have amarok 2.4 [14:53] I don't want to install 4.6 [14:56] FYI, I'm working on seeds to get powerpc live down to size. [14:57] apparle: #kubuntu for support questions [14:57] the answer is in the /topic there :) [14:58] Riddell: I typed it here by mistake... didn't see the selcted channel :P [15:00] Riddell: for amarok it says backports ppa, but that ppa has kde 4.6. So anyway to install new amarok on 4.5? [15:07] apparle: we don't have a PPA for that [15:08] Riddell: okay thanks... I'll stick to the older amarok [15:09] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [15:11] <_Groo_> is anyone taking a look at kdebindings backport for maverick? is the new sip out? [15:12] ScottK: I have some ideas to drop unnecessary packages from the cd: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ReducingDiskFootprint [15:12] Looking [15:12] _Groo_: nobody is looking at kdebindings backport for maverick as far as I know [15:12] _Groo_: latest sip is in natty but something is making it not compile on arm [15:13] <_Groo_> Riddell: k... i might take a look at backporting sip and then kdebindings then [15:13] <_Groo_> Riddell: i cant commit to a eta tough, this month has been very busy for me :P [15:13] <_Groo_> though [15:13] <_Groo_> but ill look into into asap [15:14] debfx: I think the Qt change needed for your libqt4-designer should be discussed with fabo, but it all sounds reasonable to me. [15:14] Riddell: What do you think about debfx's list? [15:14] <_Groo_> Riddell: do you have url for natty build? i can start from there to i386/amd64 [15:15] ScottK: all seems sensible [15:16] _Groo_: usource:kdebindings [15:16] _Groo_: usource:sip4 (change of name) [15:17] I'm not sure how to implement the last two [15:17] <_Groo_> Riddell: ???? whats usource? [15:17] generally it makes sense that libgeoip recommends geoip-database but still it's wasted space on the cd [15:19] _Groo_: a URL shortcut to launchpad in KDE === rbelem__ is now known as rbelem [15:24] Riddell: For the last two can we just blacklist them off the CD? [15:26] ScottK: we've tried that, apparently the blacklist doesn't actually work anymore [15:27] yeah http://paste.kde.org/3787/ [15:27] I can upload gstreamer without gvfs though I think [15:28] Sigh. Well that'd be progress then. [15:40] apachelogger: can we have kubotu in #project-neon? [15:50] Riddell: ping ping [15:50] apachelogger: which packages do I need to install to play a dvd iso with dragonplayer and the phonon gstreamer backend? [15:53] kubotu: ~np [16:06] debfx: you cannot [16:07] debfx: I accidentally deleted your kde-look watch file before I could upload mine. Would you point me at it again please? [16:10] http://blog.ikibiki.org/2011/01/31/Oldest_bug_closed_ever/ [16:10] Debian magic [16:12] ScottK: which kde-look watch file? [16:13] debfx: I thought it was you. Perhaps I mis-remember. Someone came up with a watch file last year that would work for kde-look/apps and I had a copy of it and accidentally deleted it. [16:17] ScottK: yeah that was me, though I don't remember which package has one [16:17] Sigh. [16:18] ScottK: found it: http://paste.kde.org/3793/ [16:19] debfx: Thank you. [16:21] Cool. Works. [16:38] so apparently commenting with konqueror + webkitpart from git works [16:38] there's a workaround in rekonq for some cases, so i'll push for the fix in 0.7 ... :) [16:38] maybe get it backported to 0.6.x as well [16:39] apachelogger: I've pushed some changes to the firefox installer branch. could you upload the package? === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [16:42] shadeslayer: I got my visa :) [16:42] Riddell: also your mastercard? *run* [16:42] lol [16:43] maco: How much $$$ are there? :P [16:43] well that does remind me, how do I get money, apparantly the Indian government won't let Rupees out the country now [16:43] Riddell: i would assume you get it once you get there [16:43] shadeslayer: ^^ [16:44] Riddell: OMG OMG OMG [16:44] Riddell++ [16:44] Riddell: OMG OMG OMG [16:44] Riddell++ [16:44] Riddell++ [16:44] wut [16:44] shadeslayer-- [16:45] OMG [16:45] Riddell's coming to India \o/ [16:45] yayy :D [16:46] Successor to C++ - Riddell++ [16:46] Riddell: yep, just come with pounds and get it exchanged at the airport [16:46] Quintasan: no thats D [16:46] ~karma C [16:46] karma for C: 151 [16:46] xD [16:46] lol [16:46] shadeslayer: do they accept Scottish notes? [16:46] * Quintasan bets C has the biggest karma in here [16:46] ~karma Riddell [16:46] karma for Riddell: 14 [16:47] Riddell: i remember seeing Pounds/USD/Euro's [16:47] shadeslayer: but Scottish notes? [16:47] i can ask tomorrow ... [16:47] scotland has a different currency? [16:47] shadeslayer: you have contact with Bengaluru airport's buero de change? [16:48] Pound sterling [16:48] I think [16:48] nigelb: different notes [16:48] Riddell: naw .... my dad works at the airport, and all airports have the same exchange outlet [16:48] ah [16:49] Riddell: there's a direct flight to bengaluru? [16:49] I doubt [16:49] yeah [16:49] You'd have to switch at London [16:50] LHR -> BLR exists [16:50] probably ^^ [16:50] I think I'm going through Paris [16:50] wow [16:51] Riddell: http://www.bengaluruairport.com/bial/faces/pages/home/home.jspx << there's a forex converter on the right, but i dont see Scottish notes there [16:54] no they won't list them [16:55] i *think* theyre still GBP, just funny-lookin in a way that non-UK-based exchange places get confused [16:55] Riddell: is that right? [16:55] yes [16:58] * Riddell uploads kdepim 4.4.10 [16:58] backporting welcomed if anyone wants [16:59] Riddell: Don't go through Paris if you want your bags. Ask agateau. [17:00] Heathrow doesn't exactly have a great reputation in that area either [17:04] ScottK: :) [17:04] in heathrow it's largely dependant on which terminals are involved, but generally speaking paris and heathrow are on par in luggage bingo [17:05] Right, so the question is does Riddell want one shot at the lost luggage lottery or two. [17:06] agateau: Any chance we'll get libindicate-qt updated for the new libindicate API soon? [17:06] in paris they're more creative at piling up i think [17:07] it looks like they used bulldozers to move the luggage piles around [17:16] ScottK: hopefully this week: I got it to build, but not to pass the tests [17:16] agateau: Cool. [17:26] al: that sounds like a rather useful algorithm [17:26] not very reliable but surely efficient [17:27] debfx: I could, but what is in it for me? [17:27] * apachelogger constantly ends up doing git pull on bzr repos -.- [17:28] Riddell: In ~20 minutes would you do a live powerpc ISO? I'd like to see how much my -meta changes shaved off. [17:30] ScottK: ok [17:30] Thanks. [17:32] claydoh: fancy doing an alpha 2 page for us this week? [17:32] [kubuntu-firefox-installer] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110131173214-obffetod3dvkq7pb * debian/changelog releasing version 11.04ubuntu1 [17:32] apachelogger: does that remove the wallpaper? [17:32] I added a /usr/share/wallpapers/kde-default.png link to point to the latest upstream default [17:33] kubuntu-firefox-installer should probably use that [17:33] Riddell: yes [17:36] debfx: qtmobility uploaded, here's hoping it compiles on arm [18:09] do we have a known issue wrt the CD ISO image not booting from a USB Stick in maverick> [18:09] for eg http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1611548 [18:11] Worked last time I tried it. [18:12] ScottK: my friend just tried it and it didnt work, searching the forums, i came across that [18:12] The user doesn't say if they used unetbootin or usb-creator. At least at release time usb-creator-kde worked. [18:13] my friend tried it from the usb creator that comes for windows on the CD [18:13] Ah. I never tried that one. [18:14] yeah .. thats the issue .... i advised him to use unetbootin ... lets see how successful that is [18:14] On Windows? [18:14] yep [18:14] unetbootin worked apparently :S [18:16] Please have him file a bug then. [18:16] I'm sure the Win version of usb-creator works on some systems or they wouldn't have released it. [18:18] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/syslinux/+bug/608382 [18:18] Ubuntu bug 608382 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Karmic) "Maverick images burned to usb key on lucid fail to boot - different syslinux version" [High,Triaged] [18:24] shadeslayer: That's fixed for later releases, so not relevant in your case. [18:39] i hope SIP uses CMake [18:40] joke of the day [18:40] :P [18:40] looking at kdebindings on arm, if I remove the PyQt_qreal_double then it seems to start working [18:40] that shouldn't make any sense should it? [18:40] NCommander: ^^ [18:41] what on earth is this QReal anyways? [18:41] well it's just an alias for "whatever the best decimal point number on the platform is" [18:41] which means double everywhere except ARM [18:42] where it means float [18:42] sooooo logical [18:42] and this causes lots of problems where people assume doubles are available [18:43] the silly thing is ARMs can do doubles these days, but we don't change it because it would be an ABI change and so we get lots of hassles like this [18:43] Riddell: yeah, it probably is :-/ [18:43] NCommander: probably is what? [18:44] Riddell: removing the PyQt_qreal_double. The entire library is crack, i won't be suprised if that fixed it:-/ [18:45] but if I remove PyQt_qreal_double then surely it if left with a load of doubles that it can't handle, it's all backwards! [18:47] Riddell: how can we get neon on ARM btw? any plans on that [18:49] shadeslayer: I heard there are plans to add public ARM builders to PPA, then presumably it'll just happen [18:49] ah ok ... [18:49] that would be nice [18:49] there was also the idea of having ScottK's arm cluster attach to KDE's dashboard [18:49] Riddell: If it did that, it'd probably expload when other things are building even if it build. [18:49] hopefully they'll use icecc [18:49] Riddell: Yep. Been testing with that. [18:50] Need to redo some of the work now that the bulk of it moved to git. [18:50] >UDS Budapest, 9-13 May 2011 [18:50] YEAH [18:50] interesting ... [18:50] Riddell: any ideas how to link neon with the KDE Dashboard [18:51] possibly help provide build logs etc .... [18:51] shadeslayer: nope. as far as I know dashboard is just some scripts dirk wrote so it would be a case of tracking those down and working out how to integrate them (assuming it's a sane thing to do, it might not be) [18:52] well ... you could make the script wget logs, but then the issue is that the logs have random numbers in their URL's [18:52] so yeah .. as of now .. not a very sane thing to do at all [18:53] hm, we have the date in the binary version, so you might get to the buildlog through the LP API === tazz_ is now known as tazz [18:55] Riddell: the sponsorship form for UDS-O is open, can I fill it in now or I should wait some time? [18:55] I'm not your master, you can do whatever you like :) [18:56] Well, they might look at it and think "WTF, who opened the form 3 months before UDS" :P [18:56] has version O been named yet? [18:57] Riddell: btw did you try out the 64 bit flash .so with rekonq? [18:58] Well, I'll get the required documents first and the submit the form [18:58] no need to rush now I guess [18:58] shadeslayer: no, why should I? I don't have an amd64 install currently [18:58] shadeslayer: The nightly build scripts are in (IIRC) quality-assurance and kdesdk/cmake/scripts in trunk. [18:59] jjesse: No [18:59] Riddell: oh i thought that you have amd64 and thats causing flash issues [18:59] shadeslayer: It's not very compatible with what you're doing I don't think. [18:59] ScottK: seems so [19:00] shadeslayer: flash is working fine for me, you must be thinking of someone else [19:00] no sound here [19:00] shadeslayer: ^ [19:00] Quintasan: amd64? [19:00] ofc [19:00] Riddell: but .. but .. you said that used rekonq for everything except flash :P [19:01]