| slyrus | if I were building a new machine to run natty one, what would y'all recommend for a graphics card? | 00:32 |
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| jbwiv | guys, when I got to "About Ubuntu" via the System Menu, it says I'm using Natty Narwhal...even though I'm still just on Maverick. Any reason why this might have happened? | 00:42 |
| bazhang | jbwiv, well known bug | 00:50 |
| bazhang | jbwiv, lsb_release -a should show maverick | 00:51 |
| jbwiv | bazhang, yes, you're correct. thank you | 00:51 |
| coz_ | lsb_release -a shows ubuntu natty 11.04 here | 00:58 |
| coz_ | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/lsb_release.png | 00:59 |
| bazhang | coz_, yep, this is a bug in Maverick he was asking about | 01:01 |
| coz_ | bazhang, oh sorry,,, I came in just after he talked... nevermind :) | 01:01 |
| bazhang | :) | 01:01 |
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| psusi | the x transition is still in turmoil right? the daily live cd has the x server crash for me today and leave the monitor in standby until I sysrq-k and switch to tty1 | 02:01 |
| bazhang | psusi, presumably the topic is still correct | 02:02 |
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| [[n1x]] | Anyone know if xfce 4.8 has finally reenabled the ability to configure the right click desktop menu? | 07:43 |
| gnomefreak | anyone know if the Nvidia GeForce GTX 460 is supported? | 10:17 |
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| coz_ | well so far..natty is pretty nice except for firefox 4... i went back to 3 | 12:36 |
| susundberg | firefox 4.X has sync built in <3 | 12:41 |
| coz_ | susundberg, mm well maybe later I will like it :) | 12:41 |
| susundberg | you will if you have more than 1 machine in active use | 12:42 |
| susundberg | though older xmarks and firefox sync did the tric | 12:42 |
| susundberg | (for some reason my older 3.X firfox though says that sync is currently non working) | 12:42 |
| coz_ | susundberg, I do... however... I get grumpy if I have nothing to complain about :) | 12:42 |
| susundberg | :D | 12:42 |
| coz_ | hey all | 12:52 |
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| csgeek | should packaging bugs be reported? ie. http://pastie.org/1514687 | 14:02 |
| Pici | csgeek: yes | 14:02 |
| csgeek | launchpad? or is there a +1 bug location? | 14:06 |
| gnomefreak | launchpad | 14:08 |
| gnomefreak | you can use the command ubuntu-bug packagename | 14:08 |
| gnomefreak | replace packagename with the name of the package | 14:08 |
| csgeek | that's pretty slick.. I like the ubuntu-bug | 14:17 |
| bjsnider | gnomefreak, it is supported | 14:20 |
| gnomefreak | bjsnider: the nvidia 460? | 14:53 |
| bjsnider | yes | 14:53 |
| gnomefreak | bjsnider: thanks | 14:54 |
| gnomefreak | i get the feeling it is going to be alot of work to install it | 14:55 |
| bjsnider | physically? | 14:59 |
| gnomefreak | yes | 15:02 |
| gnomefreak | you have got to love when things say the following | 15:02 |
| gnomefreak | Email sent successfully! | 15:02 |
| gnomefreak | Please check your spam for replies | 15:02 |
| gnomefreak | its very big and has its own wiring harnesses but i not real sure where to plug them in. i have to wait until i get the new PC to install it | 15:03 |
| bjsnider | your new pc will have power connectors labelled for pci-express cards. they are distinct | 15:08 |
| bjsnider | the only problem might be if the ase is insufficiently large to accommodate such a large expansion card | 15:08 |
| gnomefreak | bjsnider: ase? | 15:09 |
| bjsnider | case | 15:09 |
| gnomefreak | ah. well its normal size PC not the slim so i dont see an issue there. the card will take up 2 slots. i always have the ati 4200 that comes with it to fall back on | 15:10 |
| bjsnider | normal size might not be big enough | 15:10 |
| gnomefreak | i just have to figure out what drivers they are, but i can figure that out fairly easy | 15:10 |
| gnomefreak | bjsnider: on thats not good | 15:10 |
| gnomefreak | for a $200 card it better work | 15:11 |
| bjsnider | it's also going to be very loud | 15:12 |
| bjsnider | those things need fans | 15:12 |
| bjsnider | big fans | 15:12 |
| gnomefreak | bjsnider: it has a huge fan on it | 15:12 |
| gnomefreak | but it is removable | 15:12 |
| bjsnider | if the case is a small minitower it won't fit. it will be too long and the back will interfere with the hard drive | 15:13 |
| bjsnider | yeah, it's removable if you want to fry the gpu | 15:13 |
| gnomefreak | yeah | 15:14 |
| bjsnider | the best thing to do is buy a system with such a card already included, such as a dell xps | 15:14 |
| bjsnider | or build your own system | 15:15 |
| gnomefreak | yeah way too much money for a dell system with nvidia card even as a choice | 15:15 |
| * gnomefreak checking to see if it has dementions | 15:16 | |
| gnomefreak | be back in a few | 15:17 |
| hallyn | all right, since last night's update, I can't get online over 3G (tethered with nokia n900) Anyone else see anything problem like this? | 15:39 |
| [[n1x]] | Anyone know if xfce 4.8 has finally reenabled the ability to configure the right click desktop menu? | 16:36 |
| bazhang | [[n1x]], app shortcuts? | 16:38 |
| bazhang | http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=5679 [[n1x]] check this | 16:39 |
| [[n1x]] | like this http://lynucs.deviantart.com/art/bliss-105565250 | 16:40 |
| bazhang | no idea. check the video if you are curious about the new features | 16:43 |
| [[n1x]] | I already know what the features are but xfce never lists everything and they seem to always be clueless when asked | 16:44 |
| [[n1x]] | I need to revise my question, does anyone here use xfce 4.8? | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | as it is in Xubuntu Natty, yes | 16:45 |
| [[n1x]] | charlie-tca: please be a little more detailed with that yes | 16:46 |
| gpc | charlie-tca: you are the xubuntu project lead right? | 16:46 |
| charlie-tca | detailed how? I use Xubuntu, Natty Narwhal, which has Xfce 4.8 in it. I do not install from git or compile it on my own | 16:46 |
| charlie-tca | gpc: yes | 16:46 |
| gpc | cool and congrats btw :) | 16:47 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 16:47 |
| charlie-tca | [[n1x]]: Xfce is not a distribution, it is a desktop environment. It has to installed in something to use it | 16:48 |
| [[n1x]] | charlie-tca: so you are saying that the desktop right click menu can be easily editied like it use to be in xfce 4.2? | 16:48 |
| charlie-tca | I have no idea about that. I am saying "Yes, I use Xfce 4.8 as installed in Xubuntu" | 16:49 |
| [[n1x]] | charlie-tca: well, do you see an option to edit that menu? | 16:49 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know how it was edited in 4.2 | 16:49 |
| charlie-tca | nope | 16:50 |
| charlie-tca | I don't see that option | 16:50 |
| charlie-tca | I do know you can now use the standard menu editors to edit the main menu | 16:50 |
| [[n1x]] | but the desktop menu is seperate from the main menu :( | 16:51 |
| charlie-tca | Isn't it just an xml file you can edit? | 16:51 |
| [[n1x]] | Iol, editing hundreds of links from xml would be insane | 16:53 |
| [[n1x]] | I was hoping to find an experienced xfce user that might have known about the menu editor | 16:54 |
| charlie-tca | Are you talking about the applications menu in the right click menu? | 16:54 |
| charlie-tca | That should be the same as the main menu, and you edit it by editing the main menu | 16:54 |
| [[n1x]] | I already posted a screenshot of what I'm talking about a few posts up | 16:55 |
| [[n1x]] | revising question again, any experienced xfce users on 4.8 and know about the old menu editor? | 17:00 |
| [[n1x]] | I had been using that menu for about 5 years | 17:01 |
| kuvutu | the grub menu is different from the grub.cfg? strange but I have no idea why. is this a known issue? | 17:22 |
| kuvutu | i don't see any other than the /boot/grub and the examples inn /usr/share | 17:23 |
| kuvutu | where is it coming from? | 17:23 |
| kuvutu | any ideas? | 17:25 |
| Daekdroom | Is it only here or is transmission not working correctly with appmenu? | 17:26 |
| gnomefreak | anyone else have theme issues after updates in the past few days? | 19:08 |
| gnomefreak | it seems everything is generic and fairly big | 19:09 |
| gnomefreak | ok seems in the past few hours there are more updates some gtk so lets hope it will be fixed | 19:10 |
| Pici | gnomefreak: I haven't rebooted/relogged since the last update, sorry :/ | 19:11 |
| gnomefreak | even grub was black on white instead of purple, but plymouth was purple. login screen was also generic (no theme really) | 19:11 |
| gpc | reboot at this time is probably the worst idea | 19:12 |
| gnomefreak | i had ~200 or 400 (dont recall but one of the 2) this morning than i shutdown and just started it up. system was turned off for a few hours | 19:13 |
| Daekdroom | I have had no theme issues. | 19:15 |
| Daekdroom | A long time ago, the whole system would start as if there was a issue with Ambience theme, but then it'd normally come back (except for Nautilus) | 19:15 |
| Daekdroom | That was, idk, a week ago. | 19:16 |
| gnomefreak | this is what i have http://img141.imageshack.us/f/themeissue.png/ | 19:17 |
| Daekdroom | zeitgeist is now installed by default D: | 19:17 |
| gnomefreak | last time i did updates were during the ayanata issue, than today was next time update | 19:18 |
| gnomefreak | but it seems all Ambience is gone from what i can tell atm | 19:19 |
| Daekdroom | I'm gonna do the most recent upgrades now. | 19:19 |
| Daekdroom | (if my connection lets me) | 19:19 |
| gnomefreak | ill be back in a few im going to see what i can do about this | 19:19 |
| gnomefreak | my g-t seems to have gotten Ambience back since the gtk updates a few minutes ago. gonna try rebooting | 19:22 |
| gnomefreak | ok it seems that it is still broken | 19:30 |
| gnomefreak | well it seems that g-t above the menu looks to have ambience, brownish with the close(x) is red but nothing else in the screen has it | 19:37 |
| gnomefreak | although grub was purple again :) | 19:42 |
| gnomefreak | numlocks is not engaging on login | 19:42 |
| * yofel still waits for someone to make that purple grub not hardcoded into the scripts.. | 19:43 | |
| Daekdroom | The gfxgrub is even worse. | 19:44 |
| Daekdroom | Because when it shows up, it's not very well aligned to my monitor | 19:44 |
| * gnomefreak loves purple so im good with grub/plymouth :) | 19:45 | |
| yofel | well, I set the framebuffer by hand anyway, so I don't care about that. But it's annoying to have to edit /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme on every grub package update | 19:45 |
| gnomefreak | if you go to 1saleaday.com the https has a red line through it :) | 19:50 |
| * gnomefreak goes for smoke/think | 19:55 | |
| coz_ | hey all | 20:11 |
| gnomefreak | ok i didnt get real far. i get this feeling that the $200 video card is going to work in the new pc. worried about PSU output and space inside the box. | 20:11 |
| gnomefreak | anyone have a Nvidia Galaxy GeForce GT220? i cant find the min. PSU output | 20:19 |
| gnomefreak | it should fit in case, i just get the feeling that the PC it is going into has a 300Watt PS | 20:20 |
| gnomefreak | ok found one that should work and its >$100 cheaper :) | 20:28 |
| coz_ | gnomefreak, checking out some of the reviews for that card | 20:28 |
| coz_ | http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,697132/Geforce-GT-220-reviewed-Nvidias-DX101-graphics-card/Reviews/ | 20:28 |
| gnomefreak | coz_: thanks looking at it in a minute | 20:29 |
| coz_ | gnomefreak, I doubt a 300whatt psu is going to be enough | 20:29 |
| coz_ | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5271086&sku=G458-0220 | 20:30 |
| coz_ | $64.00 | 20:30 |
| gnomefreak | no but the geforce gt 430 should work | 20:30 |
| gnomefreak | tigerdirect is where i ordered the other card from | 20:31 |
| coz_ | ah ok | 20:31 |
| coz_ | I am jealous :) | 20:31 |
| gnomefreak | i think the 220 is 400watt | 20:31 |
| coz_ | gnomefreak, i would get the largest you can afford | 20:31 |
| coz_ | PSU that is | 20:32 |
| coz_ | TTGI are fairly inexpensive comparitively | 20:32 |
| gnomefreak | i have a few but im not sure what the new pc comes with (PSU) | 20:32 |
| coz_ | gnomefreak, oh ok | 20:32 |
| gnomefreak | the 430 is only $69.99 | 20:33 |
| coz_ | cool | 20:33 |
| gnomefreak | the 460 was ~$190 | 20:33 |
| coz_ | gnomefreak, did you compare the specs between the two? | 20:34 |
| gnomefreak | coz_: yeah kind of, whatever was on tigerdirect site. i guess i go through and customize the dell again and see what ati card it comes with and the PSU | 20:36 |
| coz_ | gnomefreak, yeah ,, system integration is a lengthy project... most of us just buy what we can afford :) | 20:37 |
| gnomefreak | i cant really afford the $200 but i dont know how well ati is supported or works for that matter. i have been using nvidia cards for many years | 20:38 |
| bjsnider | you don't need the more expensive one unless you're gaming all the time | 20:39 |
| gnomefreak | well the 430 i think it was is only $70ish but i closed the page | 20:39 |
| gnomefreak | still not sure about the amd proc it comes with | 20:41 |
| gnomefreak | that is another never had thing | 20:41 |
| gnomefreak | Integrated ATI HD4200 Radeon | 20:42 |
| gnomefreak | this guy is a moron, i should know better than to call dell to ask questions. he tells me the pc will support the nvidia460 so i ask him what is the wattage of the PSU he tells me 300Watt but the card needs 450Watts :( | 21:10 |
| * gnomefreak smacks self | 21:10 | |
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| gnomefreak | been on the phone with the guy for 23 minutes and still waiting for him to check it again | 21:11 |
| gnomefreak | he tells me i have to pay for a new PSU but when i get the PC i have to ship it back to them using my money and wait for them to replace it anda send it back to me. i said ill buy my own | 21:13 |
| gnomefreak | lol now he says it is a mini tower. everything he has said was wrong. next PC i buy im going to the store and buying it | 21:26 |
| Daekdroom | I bought a HP computer because it was the smallest non-freakish-design I could find, and I don't have many space to spare, specially in depth :S | 21:28 |
| Daekdroom | But if I could, I'd build one myself. | 21:28 |
| coz_ | Daekdroom, this one is self built a whillllle back :) | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | o/ | 21:41 |
| nekoCAT | I would like to compliment the Xubuntu team for their work on Natty so far. The new theme looks great and the panel configuration is a nice change from the psuedo-gnome look it had before. | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | thank you, nekoCAT. I will pass that on to the devs. Can you screenshot your desktop for us? | 21:59 |
| Omega | Is there anyway to get the notification area back? | 22:07 |
| nekoCAT | charlie-tca: I haven't changed much but here. http://i.imgur.com/1n5nH.png | 22:07 |
| charlie-tca | nekoCAT: that's what I wanted. Is that the default themes for panels? | 22:10 |
| charlie-tca | nebula: Thank you for the image. | 22:11 |
| charlie-tca | nekoCAT: thank you for the image. | 22:11 |
| charlie-tca | nebula: sorry, tab fail | 22:11 |
| nekoCAT | charlie-tca: The only things I have changed is the text Menu by the menu, the wallpaper, and removing the trash and filesystem icons on the desktop. | 22:13 |
| charlie-tca | nekoCAT: great! it looks real good, too | 22:13 |
| nebula | charlie-tca, :P~ | 22:21 |
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| nekoCAT | I created a bug report for the two Gnumeric menu entries I mentioned Saturday. | 22:39 |
| nekoCAT | It appears Orange Globaltime also presents with two menu entries in Xubuntu Natty. | 22:40 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, the two entries are generated by the desktop file. It is written wrong | 22:41 |
| nekoCAT | Okay, I hope it gets fixed soon. | 22:42 |
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