[00:01] ibuclaw: yeah I figured thats why it works, just funny though [00:01] its funny that it gets labeld that [00:02] instead of intel 82801I or whatever [00:03] yeah [00:09] hmmm now that, that issue is resolved, what shall my next project be [00:15] gunndawg: i told you, my condolences on having a toshiba ;). [00:19] gunndawg: Make an awesome open source game [00:19] seidos: I have no problems with it. I dont have the money to buy one of those $2,000 laptops [00:19] seidos: bang for money, cant beat what I got, I enjoy this laptop [00:20] geirha: well I am a C/C++ developer but have not developed on linux, only winblowz, so i am not familiar with the structure yet [00:20] gunndawg: it's not about $ is it? i guess the question is what notebooks have the best value [00:20] seidos: of course its about money, cant have what you cant afford, heh [00:20] i paid $600 for mine [00:21] seidos: wow, I paid $250 for mine, brand new [00:21] seidos: well my family did, I got it for xmas [00:21] seidos: I take that back, it was $300 [00:22] seidos: is urs black with the carbon fiber shell/case? [00:27] gunndawg: Why do you demean Windows like that?... I use Windows on a regular basis and I don't mind it. [00:28] http://linuxshellaccount.blogspot.com/2008/09/famous-quotations-script-for-linux-and.html <--- fun stuff, scripts to lookup different pages [00:29] aveilleux: it's all in fun, most the world uses windows so its obviously done something right [00:29] gunndawg: Marketing done right, certainly [00:30] aveilleux: I just like having more control over most all aspects of my system, and because of taht I have so far really really enjoyed linux, it's been a great experience [00:31] aveilleux: learning something new every day [00:35] gunndawg: I am by no means defending Windows, it just really irks me when someone takes a jab at it like that [00:35] gunndawg: more often than not it's a new Linux convert, fresh in the "everything about Windows is awful" phase [00:36] aveilleux: sorry, I admit i am in that phase [00:39] we always hate those that took from us with no returns but heartbreak. [00:40] nit-wit: what? lol [00:40] gunndawg, just being stupid.:) [00:40] nit-wit: lol ok [00:41] gunndawg: Just see nit-wit's name ;-) [00:41] gunndawg, I never really used MS and hardly now, there must be some good to it I just don't need it. [00:43] nit-wit: well I kept XP on my desktop for gaming, though I am quite enjoying some of these linux games [00:43] nit-wit: plus I dont intend to do any hardcore gaming on this laptop anyways, so linux is perfect [00:44] new machine, and no more buntu stickers :/ [00:45] holstein, you have a new computer/ [00:45] new to me :) [00:45] holstein, desktop or laptop [00:45] i found an EEE1001 on craigslist [00:46] battery doesnt seem trashed [00:46] SO, i install lucid on it [00:46] wifi doesnt work [00:46] some hot keys are funky [00:46] i update [00:46] get the latest kernel [00:46] and everything is working :) [00:47] holstein, cool I have a acer aspire d250 pretty similiar [00:47] nit-wit: 10.10? [00:47] holstein: nice [00:48] holstein, I heve W7 10.10 and natty on a sdhc card [00:48] nice [00:48] i kept win7 [00:48] i dont have anymore windows boxes in the house [00:48] might come in handy helping a family member or something [00:49] W7 is not a bad Os I just never use it except for the word PPT right now for a class midterm. I am one class from fulfilling my major Yipeeee [00:49] i wouldnt know [00:50] seems like i have windows7 stater [00:50] not sure what that means [00:50] i made sure grub found it [00:50] holstein, the W7 was on the eeepc [00:51] yup [00:51] i did a recovery [00:51] score as far as a free OS, starter is the basic home probably [00:52] I was just thinking recovery, does it still have the rec partition [00:52] ApOgEE__: the interface? [00:52] nit-wit: i think i saved both [00:52] pretty sure [00:53] what did you use clonezilla [00:53] i just saved them [00:53] made a 100 GB free for buntu [00:53] cool dd or through gparted [00:53] gparted [00:54] gparted is a amzing unit.:) [00:54] *amazing [00:54] i like the buntu utility too [00:54] well, i just checked [00:54] its from red-hat too [00:54] i found the complete list of bill laswells work and producing. [00:55] still, very nice [00:55] holstein: gparted is a GNOME tool... it's not distribution-specific. None of the programs on Ubuntu except Ubuntu One and the Software Center are. [00:55] An amazing list of people http://www.silent-watcher.net/billlaswell/discography/alphabeticalindex.html [00:56] thanks aveilleux [00:56] i was assuming that ubuntu had packaged the 'disk utility' [00:56] but your vilagance is not un-noticed [00:56] or un-appreciated :) [00:57] lol [00:58] holstein: Oh, you mean Palimpsest? Same deal with that... [00:58] Is there a way to get a script listed in the open with drop down box in a files properties? [00:58] aveilleux: i was talking about 'disk utility' [00:59] holstein: Yes, Palimpsest. That's the official name. [00:59] system - administration - disk utility [00:59] cool [00:59] yeah, has 'red-hat' in the 'about' section [00:59] holstein: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palimpsest_Disk_Utility [00:59] i though it had originated at buntu [01:00] johnny77: Yes, if you right-click the file "Open with other Application..." and use the dropdown arrow "Use a custom command" [01:01] aveilleux: the custom command can be the path to a script file? [01:02] johnny77: Yes, assuming you've chmod +x'd it [01:02] aveilleux: that means made it executable right? [01:02] johnny77: Yes [01:05] aveilleux: I can't get it to work. I put in the path, but then when I go to check it, the path is gone. [01:05] is this ubuntu beginner? [01:06] aiman201: You're in the right place [01:06] stupid people [01:07] T_T [01:07] okay, i've tried the ubuntu 10.10 on my mac snow leopard. it is remarkably slow, is it because it is not installed? [01:08] stupid [01:08] whats ur problem [01:08] eternal: ? [01:08] aiman201: Which Mac are you running it on? [01:08] mac os x 10.6.6 [01:09] aiman201: No, what hardware? The OS version is irrelevant. [01:10] macbookpro 7, is that what u mean? [01:11] aiman201: Are you in Ubuntu now? [01:11] aiman201: it is probably running "slow" since you are running it off a CD or DVD? [01:12] nope, im in Mac [01:12] aiman201: You mean "OSX" [01:12] yes [01:13] aiman201: go to Apple > About this Mac > More Info... and tell us the generation name in the "Model Identifier" field [01:14] MacBookPro7, 1 [01:14] aiman201: Yeah, like seidos said, it's probably because you're running off the CD and not the hard drive [01:14] okay [01:14] aiman201: the SuperDrive is god-awfully slow [01:15] i see [01:15] one more thing [01:15] aiman201: Before you get too far into it, though, I suggest you swing by here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro7-1/Maverick [01:15] the display seems to be poorly lit, what may be the problem [01:16] okay [01:16] http://www.scraundler.com/images/b3ta/usb.jpg [01:16] booh [01:16] :) [01:18] aiman201: Vae you tried using the hotkeys to brighten the display? (Fn + F2) [01:18] aiman201: Have* [01:18] yes [01:18] to the max [01:19] aiman201: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro7-1/Maverick#Screen [01:19] aiman201: Once you install Ubuntu to the hard drive, you can do that [01:19] okay got it [01:19] thank you guys [01:20] aiman201, stupid go away [01:21] eternal: please be respectful of others [01:21] don't tell me please [01:21] i hate this word [01:21] !ops [01:22] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - bodhizazen, nhandler, paultag, Rocket2DMn, ibuclaw, cprofitt, Tronyx, PriceChild, Hellow, Silver-Fox-, or PabloRubianes! [01:22] i'll say it agian without please [01:23] i don't like the word respectful too [01:24] you don't know anything about respect [01:24] eternal, please see PM [01:24] use windows. don't use silly ubuntu [01:26] A friendly reminder: DNFTT [01:26] hehe [01:26] I woner... [01:26] wonder [01:26] !dnftt [01:26] aveilleux: you running buntu on a mac? [01:26] Factoid 'dnftt' not found [01:26] damn [01:26] eternal: If you have a complaint or an issue with Ubuntu or just love windows please go to #windows [01:26] holstein: Indeed I am [01:27] !language | aveilleux [01:27] aveilleux: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [01:27] zkriesse: dnftt :p [01:27] drat [01:27] Gotcha [01:27] aveilleux: i had a hard time with lucid on an intel mac [01:27] one of the early ones [01:27] 1,2 i want to say [01:27] holstein: Which model [01:27] ive been meaning to try again with 10.10 [01:27] use windows. don't use silly ubuntu [01:27] holstein: 1,2 only tells me the generation and revision [01:28] just a macbook [01:28] old white ones [01:28] use windows. don't use silly ubuntu [01:28] im not worried about it anymore [01:28] eternal: Leave. [01:28] i just hear about folks doing it successfully [01:28] JackyAlcine: DNFTT [01:28] and i wonder what i was doing wrong [01:28] JackyAlcine: Don't feed the trolls [01:28] They never get full [01:29] shut up stupid [01:29] zkriesse, aveilleux: Alright, sorry, I'm just a bit provokable. [01:29] holstein: You mean 2,1? [01:29] aveilleux: id need to check [01:29] to confirm [01:29] maybe i'll hit you up sometime [01:29] when i have a 10.10 CD [01:29] and a few minutes [01:29] holstein: Well according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook2-1/Karmic there is no 1,2 [01:29] er [01:29] and the computer in front of me [01:29] holstein: I mean https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages [01:30] 2,1 is probably it [01:30] had the green cam issue [01:30] aveilleux: do you leave it on for a long time? [01:30] like a week or so? [01:30] holstein: I solved that by using ws4gl, which has a blue-red invert effect [01:30] holstein: It's been up for... let me see [01:32] holstein: uptime tells me "20:30:53 up 17 days, 8:08" [01:32] interesting [01:32] i had something that seemed like a hardware issue [01:32] it would run for like a week [01:32] holstein: Granted, I'm running a Mini, not a Macbook [01:33] then in the period of a couple minutes, the mouse would go strange [01:33] and it would lock up [01:33] hard [01:33] and not recover [01:33] it doesnt do that running snow leopard [01:33] so im assuming its not a hardware issue [01:33] its an old one anyways [01:34] it was acutally very nice *while it was working properly [01:43] aveilleux: hey [01:43] aveilleux: is everything OK? [01:43] paultag: available for a PM? [01:43] use windows. don't use silly ubuntu [01:43] aveilleux: always [01:43] paultag: Or not [01:44] aveilleux: humm? [01:44] Finally [01:44] Thanks paultag [01:44] sure. [01:44] aveilleux: thanks for the heads up aveilleux [01:44] I was not watching, I was on minecraft [01:44] paultag: No problem [01:45] I did that kick long ago [01:45] In my mind [01:45] :D [01:45] heh [01:45] OK. Back to minecraft. Poke me in #whube if you need me, thats linked to my server [01:50] hey folks, im trying to get into C Linux Programming and clinuxpro.com seems like a decent site but cant find his tutorials, am I blind? lol [01:50] he keeps saying in his articles "if you find any errors in the tutorials please email me" yet I see no tutorials, lol [02:16] Hello. Does anyone know how to use Blender? [02:17] jasono: its slow over there [02:17] BUT you can try #ubuntustudio [02:17] maybe the ubuntustudio mailing list [02:17] Thank you holstein [02:17] i know folks use it [02:17] dont see them often though [02:33] holstein [02:37] gunndawg: Check out http://www.physics.drexel.edu/courses/Comp_Phys/General/C_basics/ instead [02:38] My aunt teaches as Drexel [02:38] at* [02:39] jasono: yo [02:40] jmarsden, thanks [02:40] Hey. Still can't find "help." Are you sure you have no experience? Is there alternate software I can use? [02:40] jasono: what are you trying to do? [02:40] gunndawg: You're welcome. If you want something more "computer science-y", there is also http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/ [02:41] ive only started blender [02:41] maybe twice [02:41] jasono: Have you gone through the tutorials at http://www.blendercookie.com/getting-started-with-blender/ ? [02:41] holstein I am trying to make a 3D atom [02:42] jmarsded I don't have time.. [02:42] jasono: maybe inkscape? [02:42] not easy either though really [02:43] :/ [02:43] jasono: Are you a graphics-oriented visual artist type person, or a programmer type person? If the latter, you could try using OpenSCAD which is more CAD oriented but script based, so programmers tend to "get it" quickly... [02:44] http://www.openscad.org/ for info on that one. === squ1d_ is now known as CensoredBiscuit [02:45] jmarsden I'm still learning programming I saw that program but it was hard to install... [02:45] Really? I can probably help you with the install... I've packaged it for Ubuntu (in my PPA, not officially yet!)... [02:46] jmarsden: you mind to link that PPA here? [02:46] that comes up in [02:46] jmarsden Yeah but, still learning. I don't know much. [02:46] #ubuntustudio sometimes [02:46] jmarsden: and if you dont mind, i'll share it [02:48] Sure. https://launchpad.net/~jmarsden/+archive/ppa (had to check which PPA I put it in!) [02:48] jmarsden: thanks :) [02:48] I think there is now a newer package set than mine, I'll try to find the guy who did that one, in case it helps... [02:50] jasono: So, if you want, you can do sudo apt-add-repository ppa:jmarsden/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openscad # and you should have my packages installed and ready to use [02:51] jmarsden Alright, I guess I'll try. Don't think it'll work on safe mode? [02:51] I'm on safe mode. [02:51] You should know that I do more packaging than work in OpenSCAD, though :) I am on the reprap.org core team, and a lot of Reprappers use OpenSCAD. What is "safe mode" in Ubuntu? [02:52] To me "safe mode: means I have recent backups I trust :) [02:52] Oh. You created OpenSCAD. I don't know :D All I know is it doesn't start up anything. [02:53] Well, I know the guys who wrote OpenSCAD. And I wrote some patches for it, and I packaged it for Ubuntu... I am not really an author of OpenSCAD itself. [02:53] oh cool [02:53] Assuming you trust me (!), try the command sudo apt-add-repository ppa:jmarsden/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install openscad [02:54] okey [02:57] E: Unable to locate package openscad [02:58] Hmmm. What release of Ubuntu are you running? [02:59] 10.10 [03:00] OK... i386 (32bit) or amd64 (64bit)? [03:00] i386 [03:00] nvm jmarsden [03:00] OK. Looks like I only built for Lucid (10.04). I'll fire off a build for Maverick in a few minutes... [03:01] All of this is going to take long, it's okey. [03:01] I started it on Blender but need help. [03:01] If you are new to 3D and want "instant" you are in for disappointment. [03:08] takes years to master any 3d app [03:08] months just to learn the basics [03:15] jasono: theres http://puredata.info/ [03:15] but im sure its just as challenging to take on [03:15] Thanks holstein [03:37] 1/msg chanserv hello [03:37] Oh shucks [03:40] !test [03:40] Failed! [03:40] damn. [03:42] !test | paultag [03:42] paultag, please see my private message [03:42] score [03:43] * jmarsden wonders if #ubuntu-beginners is an appropriate place for testing bots? [03:44] jmarsden: perhaps not, but I'm working on a local issue with my irc client, and needed fake traffic. [03:45] jmarsden: and since I'm the most senior member on this team here right now, meh! :) [03:45] Setting a good example :) OK... [03:45] jmarsden: duh :) [03:45] uh oh, he's drunk with power :p [03:45] ddecator: just plain drunk right now :) [03:45] close enough === zkriesse_ is now known as zkriesse [04:20] I got a problem; I'm trying to adjust my volume and I get this dialog: http://i.imgur.com/4QPIH.jpg [04:25] maye pulseaudio [04:36] ohh.. [05:02] jasono: In case you still have not mastered Blender and want to try OpenSCAD, my PPA now has OpenSCAD packages for Lucid, Maverick and Natty available. [05:03] Thanks, will install later. I figured it out. [05:22] What is Blender and OpenSCAD, sounds interesting [05:24] gunndawg: Blender is a 3D modeling and animation program, and OpenSCAD is a CAD (Computer-aided design) program [05:24] gunndawg: They are applications for creating 3D objects, but each works in a very different way. http://openscad.org and http://www.blender.org have more details [05:26] aveilleux: Both export .STL files, so despite their different approaches, there are applications for which either one can be used, depending on which the user finds easier to work with. For example, people have created STL files for use with RepRap (http://reprap.org ) in both Blender and OpenSCAD. [05:28] oh ok, thx jmarsden and aveilleux [05:45] I had ubuntu installed on one partition of my HD and created another partition of my harddrive and installed Windows Vista. I had the system able to boot to Windows and if I inserted the live disc it would boot to ubuntu 10.10. I then went on to install Windows 7 today andd after doing that I shut down the system and reinserted the live disk to boot via the live disk to the ubuntu hard drive and reinstall Ubuntu. It came [05:46] Try it started tto load and then showed a failed to load eror that I think has somthing to do with the video drivers and then it defaulted into the terminal prompt signed in under ubbuntu just as if I had in gone into the trial dessktop. What might be the issue now? [05:47] Do I need tto fix the dissk partition andd eliminatte the partition where ubuntu wasoriginally installed. [05:47] Ths occurs whether I boot thru the live CD or theu wubi [05:49] bethdo97: in my experience with messing with windows and ubuntu partitions, I've found it to be rather difficult due to the NTFS and EXT3, or EXT4 file systems being so different [05:49] bethdo97: not that it has anything to do with your problem, just saying [05:51] gunndawg: probably is thou because Windows in telling me that I need to troubleshoot a problem with my mass storage device connected to my system. It sayys it can't load driivers for the device. I am guessing what Windows is talking about is the 100gb partition created for ubuntu [05:52] bethdo97: yes possibly, honestly I just got rid of windows all together and just gave ubuntu the whole hdd, then again im on a laptop with just a 250gb hdd [05:53] bethdo97: Windows can't read Linux (ext4) partitions [05:53] Is there a way to use a partitioning program to do away with the part relaated to ubuntu and then reinstal it thru the live cd? [05:53] aveilleux: you just re-hashed what I said in less than 2 lines, lol [05:53] bethdo97: you can try partition magic on windows [05:54] bethdo97: While you were on the LiveCD, did you use the partitioner to delete and re-create the Linux partitions? [05:54] gunndawg: Will it run in Windows? [05:55] bethdo97: its a windows program [05:55] bethdo97: designed for windows ;) [05:56] aveilleux: no I was trying to boot with the live cd thru the trial roott. Not totally reinstall ubuntu. Maybe that was my issue, I needed to choose install ubuntu and go to the partitioner where I could have recreated the ubuntu partition and reloaded the ubuntu OS [05:57] bethdo97: Um.... just running the LiveCD won't install Ubuntu. [05:59] I installed Ubuntu on one of my boxes running Windows 7. Can anyone advise on the best way to backup files? If possible I'd like to stay on the Ubuntu side and backup folders from both the Windows and Ubuntu sides. [05:59] I made one attempt with Deja Dup, but Ubuntu seems to limit folder size when I create one so it runs out of space. The drive has plenty of free space on it. [06:00] kbitz: Where did you make the duplication to? Because backing up files from one part of the hard drive to another is not helpful. [06:00] aveilleux: I know that but when you boot intto the desktop there is a link to install ubuntu 10.10 that I used last time to get ubuntu up and running and connected to do the updates. [06:01] good logic :-). I made it to a folder named backup in Ubuntu. If I hooked up an external drive... would that yeild better results? [06:02] I was really just testing it out, ultimatley i'd be using external media [06:02] then I got hung up on the fact ubuntu was limiting storage space on me [06:02] kbitz: Your Ubuntu partition is probably smaller than you think it is. [06:03] i'm sure... I installed with wubi, so theoretically it doesnt have its own partition correct? [06:03] kbitz: WUBI STRIKES AGAIN [06:03] rofl [06:03] kbitz: Wubi has a file that takes up space in the Windows partition, that acts as the "partition" [06:04] * nlsthzn is scared of WUBI... [06:04] i see [06:04] kbitz: Avoid Wubi if at all possible. [06:05] its possible, but then it does deserve some credit... i wouldnt have discovered how much more I like ubuntu. [06:06] i take it i will continue to have issues like this with wubi, so I will do a stand-alone install [06:06] thanks [06:06] when I go into the Windows 7 disk management proogram I can see my ext4 formatted hard drive and it says it is heealthy but that it is not accessible [06:07] bethdo97, , how is it going with dualbooting win7 and ubuntu? [06:07] bethdo97: Yes, Windows can't access ext4 partitions [06:07] Should I go in an reclaim that space by resiznig my windows hard drive or by reformmatting thaat partition as a NTFS paartition and then running the ubuntu CD and rreinstalling ubuntu in that partition [06:08] bethdo97: You can use the partition manager on the Ubuntu LiveCD to delete, then re-create the Ubuntu partition [06:09] ... i have to ask. What would be the difference between doing a stand alone install (no wubi). and just continuing to use it and adding storage space. [06:10] kbitz: You can't add storage space to a Wubi install. [06:11] madsailor: I finaly had Ubuntu and Vista working as a dual boot, so I went on and installed Win7 and then tryied to get back to the Ubuntu tru the live CD and instead of going to the ubuntu desktop by using the live trial option it booted to the terminal logged in as ubuntu@ubuntu [06:11] bethdo97, how many partitions are on your drive at the moment? [06:13] madsailor: 3 - 100gb formatted as ext4; 100 gb formatted as NTFS where Win 7 is and rest formatted as NTFS where I intend to put my son's music and videos that he will sometimes share witth others [06:13] and so he will be able to access them from both Windows and Ubuntu [06:14] madsailor: What I can't understand is why the trial desktop wouldn't load [06:15] bethdo97, sorry, lets back up one more step. The intended outcome is Win7, ubuntu, and separate partition for music etc [06:15] madsailor: Yes that is the plan [06:18] If I go into the Ubuntu 10.10 install partitioner thru the live CD and select the current partition assigned to Ubuntu and reformat it, can I theen go on and reinstall Ubuntu innto that partition without having to addit back to the Windows partition and then take it out again [06:18] ok you installed win 7 on a non partitioned disk or pre partitionped? [06:19] madsailor: I don't want to use WUBI if I can avoidit [06:20] bethdo97, you shouldn't have to [06:20] Prepartioned - The oly way I could get this computerup and ruunning again after the orignial hard ddrive died and I istalled a brand nw WD 500 gb HD was to install Ubuntu and then with an operating system in place on the hard drive, rinstall Vista and then 7 [06:22] It worked fine that way with Vista but when I added 7 it freaked out andd eliiminated the Ubuntu access and despite trying to get the windows bootloader or the Grub2 one to acknowledge the other oS, It didn't want to [06:24] bethdo97, when you installed 7 it would have overwritten the MBR [06:24] your win7 is an upgrade disk built upon vista? [06:24] not a straight win7? [06:25] madsailor: yes it is [06:26] madsailor: I know that but found instructions on how to add ubuntu back to the MBR by fixing Grub2 [06:27] bethdo97, yes, that should be all you need to do [06:29] What I was thinking about trying was to go into the partitioner in the Live CD and deleting the partition assigned to Ubuntu right now, add that back to the partition assigned to be th storage device and then recreate the ubuntu partition from the space assigned to storage, reinsttall ubuntu andd then fix the grub2 loader [06:30] madsailor: In looking at the partitiion info under Windows the HD is actually divided into 4 parts because I forgot about the space assigned too the Linnux swap when I originally instaalled Ubuntu [06:30] bethdo97, that will erase the ubuntu you have installed and will require a complete reinstall of ubuntu [06:33] madsailor: I know that but ssince the instructions I found about fixing th Grub2 inteerface, startt with boot to Live desktop and using terminal to enter a command about the Ubuntu and I can't get to the live desktop I figured I would have to ge one more step and reinstal the whole shooting matchh. Besides when I reinstall Ubuuntu won't I have to edit something so I can get both Win7 & Ubuntu to show on bootup sso that he [06:35] I don't have much other than the basic program installed yet on the Ubuntu patition because I didn't want to waste the time setting up Ubuntu with the extras just incase soomethig happened when I installed Windows 7 [06:36] bethdo97, If you really want to start ubuntu from scratch you can, I don't know why you can't boot into the live cd desktop [06:37] when you boot from the cd does it come up with a list of options ....install to hd, run from this cd etc? [06:37] I figure it has somethin to do with the updated drivers for display that were installed when I installed Windows 7 [06:38] bethdo97, are you booting from the CD or inserting it while in windows? [06:39] madsailor: Yes I get to that screen, and after selecting the try button, it starts to finish booting, a black screen comes up and says something about failed to lload i915 and then flashes a muxed color screen then goes to the terminal pprompt [06:39] Booting fro the CD [06:40] intel <3 [06:41] seems to be problems with GMA900 [06:42] ok...you should be able to do all you need from the CLI, you don't need the GUI [06:45] bethdo97, I'm guessing you are already working from this page:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD [06:47] bethdo97, the guide really just uses the live CD to get to the CLI/terminal. So even if you don't have the GUI you can do what you need with grub [06:52] madsailor: I rebooted the system with the live C and the error that showedup was somthing about failing to query the uvc filter and failing to load the i915 driver [06:55] bethdo97, that's a video issue. you should be able to do all you need from the CLI [06:56] even if the GUI isn't loading [06:58] madsailor: Ok selected install Ubuntu and when the preparing to install screen comes up th first 2 things have a check but there is an x in terms of connected to the internnet [06:59]