[00:34] Hm. How can I take a bug off the QA sponsoring list? Bug #644644 has had it's gstreamer task sponsored, but there's still a valid pulseaudio task up, and that doesn't have a sponsoring candidate. [00:34] Launchpad bug 644644 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Natty) "Frequent PA crashes during playback - pa_stream_cork() failed: Connection terminated and pa_stream_writable_size(): Connection failed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/644644 [00:43] RAOF: just unsubscribe -sponsors [00:44] (if you're not in the group, i can do it, but you should ping persia and ask him to add you) [00:44] broder: Ta. [01:11] * persia isn't the *only* admin of -sponsors, but is always happy to add folk [01:13] +1 ^^ [01:13] IIRC dholbach and kees as well [01:14] Piloting will me a more rewarding experience in core-dev :/ [01:14] when will support for the newer elan smartpad be added? [01:14] RAOF: is that wrong? [01:15] RAOF: l2english? [01:15] lifeless, ari-tczew: Like you can't mentally translate a bistaken 'm' :) [01:15] RAOF: haha [01:16] RAOF: I guess while reading s/me/be [01:19] RAOF, For those you can't sponsor, if they look generally useful, consider helping them get upstream, which may be almost as satisfying if they land. [01:19] Yeah, when that's appropriate. [01:27] If a core-dev would like to sponsor http://cooperteam.net/Packages/mtdev_1.1.0-0ubuntu1_source.changes I'd appreciate it :) [01:27] Hobbsee: don't suppose you're on irc atm ? [01:27] And I'm sure the ubuntu-touch team would appreciate it, too :) === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [02:15] @pilot out === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: Open | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Current Friendly Patch Pilots: === asac_ is now known as asac [04:45] have I heard correctly that Keybuk is (already? going to be?) in Mountain View? [04:51] Mountain View? [04:52] psusi: MOuntain View is Google HQ [04:52] ahh [04:54] jdong: Yes; already. [04:55] RAOF: ah cool. I' [04:55] ll have to look him up for a beer or something :) === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [07:26] jdong: wait, are you still out here? [07:26] broder: out here? where's here? [07:27] bay area [07:27] yeah, moved out here for good (for now) :) [07:27] accepted a job at evil fruity world ;-) [07:27] sweet. i think i thought you were grad schooling or something [07:27] you're still in the bay area too? [07:27] we should totally catch up for a beer at some point [07:27] yeah [07:28] neat! [07:28] yeah, definitely [07:28] yeah, I still plan on grad school in the near future. But for now a job is a refreshing change [07:28] * broder knows the feeling [07:28] cripes, its a jdong! [07:29] * jussi waves [07:29] hey :) [07:29] not seen you around for a while - do fruity companies block irc? :D [07:29] no they don't, actually [07:29] just my busy nature has inhibited IRC :) [07:30] Ahh, fair enough. [07:30] good to see you are still kicking though :) [07:30] haha thanks :) [07:30] still adjusting to this silly time zone though [07:30] getting ready to go to bed at 11:30! [07:30] lol [07:31] anyway, its like 9.30 am here, and I should really go do work... [07:31] good morning === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [07:39] Good morning [07:40] Oh, oh! It's pitti! [07:40] Good morning pitti :) [07:41] kees: are you sure that the gdm uid patch is still required? the logic which users to filter out should be much better now; but if you have a ported patch for the current gdm, please go ahead and commit it [07:42] hey RAOF, how are you? [07:42] pitti: I'm ok. [07:43] I'm discovering some stupidity in thinking that builds == works, though :/ [07:43] On the plus side, this is in the pre-upload testing, so no-one need know! [07:44] hi pitti, I wanted to ask about Thunderbird for natty alpha 2, would it be better to have it be updated to 3.1.8 on arm, but w/out Breakpad enabled (submit crashes to Mozilla) (not parity with i386/amd64) or leave it at 3.1.7? There might be the other option of actually fixing breakpad, but idk if that can happen before alpha 2 [07:51] micahg: my gut feeling is to update without breakpad, but ogra_'s or persia's opinion here is more important [07:52] pitti: I"ll check with chrisccoulson as well either before I go to sleep or when I wake up (and might find it mysteriously fixed :)) [08:11] good morning [08:12] Morning, didrocks. [08:12] hey JackyAlcine === smb` is now known as smb === hanska is now known as dapal [08:29] bonjour didrocks [08:30] Guten Morgen pitti :) === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ [08:52] mvo: hi! during weekend I spent some time doing gdebi bug triage, and noticed you were working on gio support (lp:~mvo/gdebi/gio). Do you think it's functional enough to be merged, or does it need polishing? [08:52] DktrKranz: thanks for the triage :) there was/were issues with gio, but I don't remember the details, let me look at the code again (its been a while) [08:54] @pilot in === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: Open | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Current Friendly Patch Pilots: janimo [08:55] * micahg waves to janimo [08:55] DktrKranz: one problem was that gio will not support remove downloads as root. that should be fine most of the time (as we run as user by default) though [08:56] ah, yeah [08:57] micahg, hi [08:58] janimo: hi, we've got another failure on thunderbird on ARM, I was looking for the ARM xulrunner tree to see if anyone fixed it, but it seems to no longer exist [08:58] micahg, those fixes are easy, I saw that too, I'll provide a patch today - not debidff though [08:58] I wonder though why mozilla keep adding asm code :) [08:59] janimo: awesome, thanks [08:59] janimo: we enabled a new module (breakpad) [09:00] ah, makes sense [09:02] DktrKranz: nice work on trunk btw, many thanks :) [09:17] mvo: thanks, I plan to commit a couple of things, then upload and sync in natty [09:22] DktrKranz: sounds good to me, I play a little bit with the gio stuff in the meantime [09:25] mvo: cool, thanks! [09:32] DktrKranz: could you merge the gio branch to trunk and play a bit with it? it should be good now [09:33] mvo, any chance that we get a working update-manager soon so we can build non x86 images again ? [09:33] (why is it depending on fglrx-modaliases ?) [09:37] micahg, so mozilla will not report via apport? How do apport and breakpad get along? [09:37] janimo: apport should be blacklisted if breakpad is enabled [09:37] ok [09:38] janimo: you should still be able to use ubuntu-bug though to report non-crashes [09:38] micahg, does the mozilla team upstream patches (I am thinking of the arm ones in particular)? [09:38] janimo: we should be :) [09:39] micahg, ok. There's no easy way I know of - short of looking at he buglist and upstream resources - what the status of various packages is wrt upstreaming [09:40] janimo: generally I think we do, occasionally one slips through the cracks [09:44] ogra_: yes, on my list for today :) its a quirk handler because fglrx used to drop support for older cards so we like to tell users (and transition them) [09:44] ah [09:44] great, thanks [09:53] broder: thanks for pushing the libpipeline backport :-) [10:04] <\sh> guys, who is responsible for upstart in ubuntu right now? [10:05] \sh: I think jhunt is working on it [10:06] <\sh> micahg: thx...I'll get in touch with him...looks like we still have problems with upstart + virtual nic interfaces [10:07] \sh: bug 678425? [10:07] Launchpad bug 678425 in upstart (Ubuntu) "virtual network interfaces sometimes dont start on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/678425 [10:09] <\sh> micahg: nope, this looks just like the reporter is not following the exmaple of ifenslave for new upstart behaviour [10:10] <\sh> micahg: it's more : bond0 -> slaves eth0 eth1 -> mode 4 / bond1 -> slaves eth2 eth3 -> mode 4 <- those are available, and now you device a bond2 -> slaves bond0 bond1 and bond2 doesn't work [10:11] \sh: way too late at night for me to follow that :) [10:12] <\sh> micahg: hehe...I can imagine that... [10:14] mvo: sure, I'll have a go this eve [10:16] <\sh> micahg: I commented on bug #678425 [10:16] Launchpad bug 678425 in upstart (Ubuntu) "virtual network interfaces sometimes dont start on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/678425 [10:17] smb,sconklin-gone: we need an urgent upload for bug 709694, IMO, because now lucid-updates has regressed for people with the backports modules installed [10:17] Launchpad bug 709694 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu Lucid) "Lucid package linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic broken" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709694 [10:20] <\sh> cjwatson: don't know if you are the right man for initramfs-tools, but the correct fix for bug #415353 is now in initramfs-tools 0.98.8 in unstable...we should take a look at it and eventually push that to natty [10:20] Launchpad bug 415353 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) "karmic/lucid installation slow on "detecting network hardware" with bnx2x" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415353 [10:24] \sh: yes I'm going to do that this week [10:24] maks already asked me about it [10:25] pitti: given that you removed the fglrx-modaliases package, do you have an idea for how to make update-manager not dep-wait on it in natty? [10:25] <\sh> cjwatson: cool...thx :) [10:25] cjwatson: oh, I'll look into it and discuss with mvo [10:25] sounds like an obsolete workaround anyway [10:26] cjwatson, see above, mvo said he'd work on it today [10:26] * DistUpgrade/DistUpgradeQuirks.py: [10:26] - add detection for cards no longer supported via fglrx [10:26] and ensure transition to "ati" (LP: #284408) [10:26] ogra_: ah, thanks [10:26] I missed that === ogra_ is now known as ogra === ogra is now known as Guest94419 [10:26] mvo: do we still need that? would it help if I send you a snippet of code which determines the vendor/product IDs in the new "package header" world? === Guest94419 is now known as ogra_ [10:27] * ogra_ grumbles at freenode [10:27] ogra_: that's not freenode's fault (: [10:28] Tm_T, that my nick gets cked for 2h if i nistype my PW ? [10:28] *mis [10:28] ogra_: I believe you have turned on nick-guard [10:28] *locked ... [10:28] i havent turned on anything [10:29] i'm using IRc like i do since 8 years [10:29] hmm, interesting, it shouldn't force nick-change without the nick protection [10:29] if i mistype my pw and am not fast enough to retype in time i get a Guest account [10:29] after that my nick is locked for about 2h [10:30] haven't heard of locks before [10:30] * ogra :Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable [10:30] thats what nickserv replies [10:30] ogra_: you can still identify [10:31] i cant change my nick, so no [10:31] ogra_: /msg nickserv identify [10:32] yes, that works, but i cant change my nick [10:32] as identified? [10:32] yes [10:32] same message as above [10:32] what happens if you try to ghost that nick? [10:33] -NickServ- ogra is not online. [10:33] :P [10:33] interesting [10:33] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- ogra has enabled nick protection [10:33] well, i'll live with the tail for 2h [10:34] ogra_: you might like to group that tailed nick to your account too (: [10:34] to have that locked as well ? [10:34] no, thanks :) [10:35] ogra_: well, now someone else can register it [10:36] nobody has in the last years ... and i still own the toplevel [10:36] true [10:36] * cjwatson looks sideways at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/natty_probs.html [10:36] i like to have a working fallback [10:36] we're producing an alpha this week, right? :-( [10:38] cjwatson, armel looks worse than it is for images [10:38] we only miss u-m currently afaik [10:38] ogra_: I was actually mostly looking at x86 [10:38] ah [10:44] cjwatson: a binary promotion of "libsmokebase3" should resolve the "libsmoke*" ones (kdebindings) [10:47] geser: thanks, will poke at component-mismatches [10:47] there's a qscintilla2 rebuild needed too [10:51] Is NAS (Network Audio System) is shipped with Ubuntu? [10:51] Qt seems to rely on it. [10:59] Riddell: I've uploaded qscintilla2 to fix its sip-api-* dependency - hopefully it still works [11:00] ev: Hi, can you look at bug 710582, looks like a webkit bug rather than ubiquity. [11:00] Riddell: is somebody working on the kdebindings FTBFS on armel? [11:00] Launchpad bug 710582 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) "ubiquity crashes after step 'Who are you' : segfault in libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0.5.2 on AMD64" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710582 [11:01] jibel: ugh, it seems like we get these once a cycle. Sure, will do. [11:01] ev: thanks [11:08] cjwatson: I can't work out the problem (it's failing to typecast double as qreal). I've pinged upstreams who havn't so far helped [11:09] jibel: I've followed up on the bug [11:10] Riddell: maybe I should work my way through the problems I'm more likely to be able to solve then ;-) === amitk is now known as amitk-afk === amitk-afk is now known as amitk [11:38] When will Ubuntu replace X for Wayland? === rsalveti` is now known as rsalveti === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === seiflotfy_ is now known as seiflotfy [11:51] RAOF: I just uploaded xserver-xorg-input-evdev to fix a udeb dependency problem which was showing up in component-mismatches. I don't suppose you could sync that upload into wherever x-s-i-e is maintained? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [11:59] cjwatson: Yeah, ok. [11:59] Riddell: qtmobility 1.1.0-0ubuntu3 removed libqtmessaging1, I think, but qtmobility-dbg still seems to depend on it? [11:59] RAOF: thanks [12:00] ... and I think that should be the last of the x86 uninstallables [12:00] JackyAlcine: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551 is the most authoritative answer to that I know of [12:01] cjwatson: re libkibi: it wasn't as easy as i assumed. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=640432 [12:01] cjwatson: ok I'll look at that along with the arm build failures of qtmobility today [12:01] Riddell: thanks [12:02] bdrung: well, I'm not hugely surprised, but we can't leave the c-m status the way it is forever [12:02] cjwatson: c-m? [12:02] bdrung: we could demote it and bump the MIR bug back to Fix Committed pending app changes? [12:02] bdrung: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt [12:02] Fantastic, cjwatson. [12:02] cjwatson: i'll can start to port non-glib C programs. [12:05] cjwatson: Ah, I guess -evdev hasn't been published yet? I'll leave that for Bryce then. Time for me to hit the sack :) [12:07] pitti: I'm working on that now, it should be fine [12:08] * pitti hugs mvo, danke [12:09] RAOF: not quite. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/1:2.6.0-1ubuntu3 === ogra_ is now known as ogra [12:13] hey janimo [12:13] om26er, hello [12:13] janimo, could you please sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/natty/totem/totem-fix-647607/+merge/47903 [12:13] ev: I'll submit the bt after lunch. In the mean time I caught another blocker but this time on Kubuntu bug 710612 . Looks like a problem with debconf. [12:13] Launchpad bug 710612 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) "Kubuntu Desktop AMD64 - ubiquity kde_ui crash with File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/debconf.py", line 70, in command self.write.flush() IOError: [Errno 32] Broken pipe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710612 [12:13] om26er, looking [12:16] om26er, have you built this and it works? [12:17] janimo, I have not build since it seemed like a one line fix, should I now, will take a few minutes if you say [12:18] om26er, ok, just to make sure, please do, thanks [12:18] since you know the best how to test if it indeed fixes the bug [12:22] pitti: what does a line with multiple seperators in modaliases looks like? i.e. what is the seperator? Modaliases: fglrx(..), fglrx2(..) ? [12:22] pitti: in the Packages header [12:22] mvo: right, modulename(alias, alias, ...), modulename(alias, ...), ... [12:22] ok, thanks [12:23] jibel: it's rare for such things to be a problem with debconf, just as compiler errors are rarely a problem with gcc [12:24] mvo: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/jockey/ubuntu/view/head:/jockey/oslib.py#L716 is what jockey uses [12:24] FYI [12:24] thanks pitti [12:25] mvo: bug #710618 - that's the try to comply to ubuntu's units policy [12:25] Launchpad bug 710618 in apt (Ubuntu) "Please support libkibi" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710618 [12:26] mvo: libkibi is in NEW in Debian [12:26] bdrung: thanks, I have a look. also I tend to be very reluctant to add dependencies to libapt [12:27] mvo: libkibi is very small for that reason [12:28] pitti: hm, the old modalias files had a "xorgdriver" as part of their data, that got dropped now? [12:29] pitti: it should not affect u-m much though, just curious [12:29] mvo: where was that? [12:30] cjwatson: ping [12:30] bdrung: I share mvo's opinion with dependencies, and APT seems compliant already [12:30] cjwatson: is there a possibility of enabling busybox's httpd? [12:31] hyperair: why? [12:31] and in which build? [12:31] cjwatson: any one of them -- i think it would be useful for testing of stuff that should run on embedded environments. [12:31] pitti: e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/560591/ [12:32] pitti: alas, it looks like its the module, not the xorg driver [12:32] hyperair: well, we certainly can't do it in the udeb, for instance, it would clash confusingly with save-logs [12:32] cjwatson: save-logs? [12:32] hyperair: a d-i component [12:32] cjwatson: how about busybox-static? or busybox? [12:32] mvo: right, first is the module name (before the () now), second the package name (Package: field) [12:32] hyperair: httpd is already enabled in those. [12:32] debian/config/pkg/static:722:CONFIG_HTTPD=y [12:33] debian/config/pkg/deb:721:CONFIG_HTTPD=y [12:33] eh wait a sec.. [12:33] oh sorry [12:33] i meant... busybox cgi support [12:33] feel free to file a bug for that === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [12:33] seems reasonable enough [12:33] +CONFIG_FEATURE_HTTPD_CGI=y [12:33] +CONFIG_FEATURE_HTTPD_CONFIG_WITH_SCRIPT_INTERPR=y [12:33] +CONFIG_FEATURE_HTTPD_SET_REMOTE_PORT_TO_ENV=y [12:33] okay [12:34] cjwatson: by the way, is there a special use case for busybox-static? [12:34] no idea, it predates me [12:34] I imagine it's recovery shells and the like [12:34] ah okay [12:34] janimo, builds fine on 32bit install. youtube video does not play for me at the moment due to other reasons [12:35] certainly that's why it's in ubuntu-standard [12:35] cjwatson: wasn't that the job of busybox-initramfs? [12:36] hyperair: no [12:36] ah [12:37] its purpose is to be /bin/sh and tools in the initramfs, not in the main system [12:37] om26er, ok [12:39] pitti, when you copy out kernels for lucid SRUs (from the canonical-kernel-team PPA) do you include the LBM packages? i assume you are copying out those packages you are asked to [12:41] apw: sconklin-gone sends me a list to copy, as there is often old/other stuff [12:42] pitti, ok so the disconnect is at his end, seems he did not include LBM in the lucid update last time, as that is uninstallable rgith now. there seems to be a valid build in the PPA however [12:42] apw: ok, so I'll copy that then [12:43] pitti, it looks to be the right version to my eye and matching the git repo, so that seems appropriate [12:43] cjwatson, ^^ [12:44] pitti: thanks [12:44] cjwatson, pitti i will close the loop with the stable team to make sure the process hole here is closed [12:44] pitti: this is a regression in -updates right now - do you think we can waive the waiting period to some extent? [12:44] so it seems neither cert nor qa even test these [12:44] cjwatson: yes, absolutely [12:45] cjwatson: I thought we push it to -proposed now, and perhaps to -updates tonight? [12:45] right, once somebody has test-installed it and confirmed it doesn't explode [12:45] pitti, my understanding always has been that they are 'backports' and therefore more like the backports pocket from a process point of view [12:45] oh, it's not just a no-change rebuild [12:45] pitti, indeed, seems to be some updates from upstream there too ... [12:46] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/62531555/linux-backports-modules-2.6.32_2.6.32-27.26_2.6.32-28.27.diff.gz is quite nontrivial, so it should be tested at least [12:46] pitti, if you get it into -proposed, i'll get some people in my team to 'feel the pain' testing it [12:47] * apw looks grumpy [12:47] apw: that'd be great; copied now, and updated bug 606278 (which should get the testing results) [12:47] Launchpad bug 606278 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu Lucid) "Add linux-backports-modules-input" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606278 [12:47] sorry for the process fail [12:47] pitti, i don't see you have any fault in the matter [12:48] forgot about lbm [12:48] pitti, i am sure you reviewed what you are asked to release ... [12:48] pitti, i don't think you should be having to remember [12:59] bdrung: Why did you create a type filesize_t (that falls into a POSIX-reserved space), instead of using the off(64)_t type which is a standardized type for file sizes? [13:00] say... is rmadison going mad? it says busybox is in universe [13:00] busybox | 1:1.17.1-8ubuntu1 | natty | source [13:00] busybox | 1:1.17.1-8ubuntu1 | natty/universe | amd64, i386 [13:00] cjwatson: ^^ [13:00] but launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/busybox says it's in main. [13:00] as does apt-get source [13:00] er apt-get show(src) [13:00] hyperair: source is in main, binary in universe [13:01] O_o [13:01] oh i see. [13:01] juliank: thanks === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:08] juliank: C99-reserved, too [13:11] cjwatson: Can't find it in C99, at least not in "7.1.3 Reserved identifiers" [13:12] 7.26.8 defines types matching u?int.*_t as possible future additions [13:12] juliank: hm, looks like you're right, sorry [13:14] then rebuild === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [14:09] lamont: Is Postfix 2.8 high enough on your list that you're likely to get it done before feature freeze? [14:09] when is feature freeze? [14:10] * ScottK looks [14:10] feb24 [14:10] I expect so [14:10] there's also a new util-linux, which I think would be nice to get in, too. [14:11] and nmap [14:11] and prolly bind9 (rc bits are out now) [14:11] Debian should be unfrozen this time next week. [14:11] that's what I've been stalling on [14:11] ScottK: I heard about 5/6 feb. [14:12] @pilot out === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: Open | Development of Ubuntu (not support, not app development) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion for dapper -> maverick | #ubuntu-app-devel for application development on Ubuntu | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Current Friendly Patch Pilots: [14:12] ari-tczew: Yes. [14:12] ari-tczew: that'd be "by next week" [14:13] * lamont makes a note to prep and take his laptop to the thing this weekend, since he'll prolly be a bit bored at least part of the time [14:20] juliank: off64_t doesn't seems to be portable. maybe i should only use uint64_t from stdint.h [14:20] * dholbach hugs janimo [14:25] bdrung: Well, the important part would be to not use a name ending in _t, so kibi_filesize would be better [14:27] * janimo hugs dholbach [14:28] dholbach, piloting was a bit hectic for the first time. I am not too familiar with UDD [14:28] hi janimo [14:28] the diversity of branches and who owns what confuses me still [14:28] jelmer, hi [14:28] janimo, did you take "notes"? :) [14:28] janimo: just getting more familiar with it, or are there things you think we can improve? [14:29] * janimo will be back after 1-on-1 call with manager [14:29] jelmer, need to get more familiar that;s for sure, but there are probably things to be improved [14:29] might be good to send a short followup mail to ubuntu-devel@ so we can talk about [14:30] I'm sure you're not the only one [14:30] for instance merging would be easier done only from the web UI wihtith the need to get locally then merge then push [14:31] dholbach, yes, I'll write one up. It will definitely be short, as there's not much to tell :) [14:31] janimo: Yeah, agreed [14:31] * dholbach hugs janimo [14:31] thanks [14:31] dholbach, np [14:32] jelmer, but I guess there are things which are not technical - such as making sure I am not stepping on other devs toes. From the ~46 sponsoring requets I was not sure which other sponsor has their eyes on [14:32] the last commented field helps [14:33] you can always shoot them a quick ping to check :) [14:33] but with recent bugs (as it actually happened with a U1-sso) upload I think teammate usually help eachother and there's no need for othewr sponsors [14:34] janimo: how do you do it for non-UDD sponsoring ? [14:34] jelmer, the reason it was a bit slow for me is that I did not really do much sponsoring before [14:35] however I am more familiar with 'here's a debdiff for agains the latest source' approach [14:35] janimo: you should be able to use the "Claim Review" link on the merge proposal to indicate you're processing it [14:35] with bzr seems I need to merge and push to bzr (making sure I push to the right branch i.e ubuntu/totem vs desktop-team/totem) [14:35] perhaps we should mention that on the UDD pages [14:36] then I need to do the same change in the package === vanhoof[weekend] is now known as vanhoof [14:36] espeically if the request comes only as a bzr request and orig tgz needs to be found and fetched separately [14:36] janimo, you can do it the other way round, upload, wait until it shows up in the package branch and then merge back [14:36] jelmer, I found and used that actually [14:39] janimo: Thanks for the feedback :) [14:41] bzr bd usually manages to find the orig [14:43] I am sure large part of my troubles was not having read the UDD docs thoroughly and not had peeked over anyone else's shoulder doing sponsoring work === sconklin-gone is now known as sconklin === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [15:12] pitti, apw sconklin Did a quick install test for lbm-lucid. AFAICT all packages are installable from proposed now [15:12] smb: thanks === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:13] does anybody know what "System program problem detected" means? i see this popup on login after today's updates, but it does not appear to be hooked into apport because "report problem..." does nothing [15:15] i do see an indicator-applet file in /var/crash and one from network manager, but those are the only files from today [15:17] barry, it's what update-notifier displays when there is a crash from another uid that yours [15:18] barry, it's to avoid locking the screen asking for a gksudo password to report those [15:18] it should call apport, maybe check .xsession-errors [15:18] seb128: okay, thanks. note that when i click on "report problem" nothing happens [15:19] does apport work? [15:19] seb128: unsure. the other crash was from indicator-applet, and no apport opup came up for that one either === rbelem__ is now known as rbelem [15:20] barry, try running ubuntu-bug /var/crash/... [15:23] seb128: that worked for the indicator applet crash. the network-manager crash file from earlier today though "problem cannot be reported". also looks up u-b tracebacks ;) [15:23] smb: ah, thanks; so I'll move them to -updates, and then to -security [15:23] seb128: i'll report what i can, thanks [15:24] dholbach, heyo, can you put me in the patch pilot calendar for tomorrow (as a one-time thing? i forgot to do it on Friday) [15:24] barry, yw [15:24] sure [15:26] mterry, I'll give you access to the calendar too - unfortunately I can't do it "automatically for everyone" :( [15:26] anyone else while I'm at it? [15:27] mterry, done === jdstrand_ is now known as jdstrand [15:28] dholbach, thanks [15:39] cjwatson: why are u images still not hybrid? [15:39] cjwatson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage/+bug/524803 [15:39] Ubuntu bug 524803 in Ubuntu CD Images "isolinux hybrid mode should be used - all other major distributions do so since last year" [Undecided,New] [15:40] no response too... [15:41] cjwatson: btw. i have got a patch for os-prober to fix gentoo detection, and you upload to d too? [15:42] Kano: don't expect me to respond to questions in that tone [15:42] if you have an os-prober patch, it's probably best to file a Debian bug for it and I/we can pick it up there [15:43] well i told the one i wrote the patch for to do that [15:43] if you'd asked politely about isohybrid, I would have given a detailed status update [15:43] just update the bug? [15:43] but not now [15:43] no, you were rude in the bug [15:43] I don't reward people who are rude with details [15:44] sorry [15:45] well every other distro uses hybrid mode, even live-build creates binary-hybrid.iso [15:46] we will be moving to hybrid mode; if you'd been polite I would have given details of the plan [15:46] as it is I'm afraid you'll have to wait [15:46] well i can execute isohybird on the iso, but do others know that? [15:49] ntfs-3g seems to be a bit old too [15:49] 2 stable releases after 8.8. already [15:51] would be interesting too for u, as it does not need any patch most likely [15:51] New: implemented the ’sync’ mount option. [15:51] http://www.tuxera.com/community/release-history/ [16:02] slangasek: howdy, around? wanted to chat with you (again) about bug #313812 [16:02] Launchpad bug 313812 in eCryptfs "umount of ecryptfs does not automatically clear the keyring (can be mounted by root later)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/313812 === wendar_ is now known as wendar [16:07] Hi, as vim user I would like to know when 7.3 will arrive at ubuntu ? [16:08] apw: Hey dude Latest natty upgrade seems to kill my wireless and drop me into flight mode no nm === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch [16:10] davmor2, did you use to be using linux-backports-modules-wireless ? === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [16:11] elif: natty already has it; earlier releases will remain at their current versions [16:11] apw: If it wasn't in the standard install nope, I've just checked on a fresh cd from this morning same issue. [16:14] apw: is it best to ubuntu-bug the kernel and point you at the bug? [16:14] davmor2, definatly want a bug yes please [16:14] no probs one minute [16:15] cjwatson: do it [16:15] * apw wonders if we have a firmware name change or something [16:15] bdrung: do which? [16:16] cjwatson: demote libkibi and bump the MIR bug back to Fix Committed [16:16]