ttosttos | I'm running 10.10 on a Thinkpad X200... I get a kernel crash when trying to hibernate... suspend works fine... I'm wondering if this is the right way to get some guidance..... | 02:09 |
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smb | Hm Thinkpad X200... I wonder whether that was the thing with the tpm driver... | 08:15 |
smb | But gone now anyway... | 08:16 |
smb | Morning | 08:16 |
abogani | smb: Good morning to you. | 08:18 |
* smb waves his cup of coffee to abogani | 08:19 | |
abogani | :-) | 08:20 |
RAOF | Good morning, caffinated sir! | 08:20 |
smb | RAOF, That would be "not-yet-sufficiently-caffinated" :-P | 08:21 |
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cjwatson | Could somebody look at bug 709694? It's RC for 10.04.2 | 12:04 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 709694 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 "Lucid package linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic broken" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709694 | 12:04 |
cjwatson | and it's effectively a regression in lucid-updates | 12:04 |
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apw | cjwatson, looking | 12:18 |
apw | cjwatson, it looks to me that it was built (in the canonical-kernel-team PPA with the kernel) but was missed with the pocket copy | 12:22 |
apw | cjwatson, i believe that the version in the canonical-kernel-team PPA is the one intended to complete the -28 set, i am unsure as to why it was not pocket-copied with the kernel meta etc | 12:38 |
cjwatson | apw: so I should do that? | 12:39 |
apw | cjwatson, i suspect so yes, i was just closing the loop with pitti to see if he has information | 12:40 |
cjwatson | ack | 12:40 |
apw | smb, about ? | 12:49 |
smb | apw, Just came back | 12:49 |
apw | smb, most handy :) you have some lucid systems still i think? | 12:50 |
smb | apw, One or the other. | 12:50 |
ohsix | apw: cgroup-bin was breaking suspend | 12:54 |
apw | smb, thanks for that | 12:54 |
apw | cgroup-bin ? | 12:54 |
ohsix | the package, it has configs & a daemon to move things into cgroups | 12:55 |
ohsix | some kernel threads didn't like that when there were no resources in the group to get their job done | 12:55 |
apw | ohsix, oh, hrm ... interesting ... so lets get a bug files against that, or your existing bug opened out to that a well ... | 12:55 |
apw | ohsix, that does at least explain why you are one of the few hitting it | 12:56 |
ohsix | i'd had it installed for a few months to poke at it; that was enough to break stuff | 12:57 |
apw | tgardner, didn't seem you had the x35 (3873) cve assigned to you in the sheet ... added | 14:12 |
tgardner | apw, huh. thanks | 14:18 |
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Kano | hi apw , did you get my message about RTL8192CE firmware? | 14:55 |
apw | Kano, i saw it mentioned yes. we may have rebased on upstream firmware base since then | 14:56 |
apw | i have not explicitly checked it is in there | 14:56 |
apw | dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot -I.bzr -I.bzr-builddeb -I.git -I.gitignore -i'\.git.*' | 15:00 |
apw | sconklin, ^^ | 15:00 |
Kano | also the rt8192se driver is crap | 15:01 |
Kano | basically it is in the kernel directly but does not work | 15:01 |
Kano | so you have just got 2 non working drivers | 15:01 |
Kano | the .32 kernel driver version sometimes worked | 15:02 |
Kano | best works ndiswrapper... | 15:02 |
apw | Kano, realtek has a questionable track record with open source drivers, indeed | 15:03 |
apw | we tend to rely on backports modules for those, and much finger crossing | 15:03 |
Kano | but they dont work | 15:03 |
maks_ | it's crap hardware too. | 15:04 |
Kano | fee free to send me a minipci card with something better | 15:05 |
maks_ | vorlon has a funny post about getting rid of it. | 15:06 |
Kano | well ndiswrapper is ok but... | 15:07 |
Kano | why is the native driver not working | 15:07 |
Kano | maybe you could get testhardware *g* | 15:07 |
Kano | like samsung n510 | 15:07 |
apw | Kano, i personally tend to stay the heck away from anything which has rtl in it, just too hard | 15:12 |
Kano | prism 54 softmac is not better, i have got those cards too | 15:15 |
Kano | does never work with 64 bit | 15:15 |
Kano | somehow i only get non working cards | 15:15 |
Kano | and there is not even a win 64 bit driver, at least i did not find one. for 32 bit ndiswrapper would work too,but native work there | 15:21 |
tgardner | sconklin, just uploaded linux-meta 2.6.32.29.34 to the c-k-t PPA to enable compat-wireless 2.6.37 | 15:22 |
tgardner | sconklin, you should roll the ABI on everything else in Lucid and get them uploaded. | 15:23 |
sconklin | tgardner: Aye. Is this an exception to the current freeze? | 15:23 |
tgardner | no, this is going into your c-k-t PPA, not the archive. | 15:24 |
sconklin | tgardner: yeah, I just wanted to know how much of a hurry there was | 15:24 |
tgardner | sconklin, well, I think you should have _all_ the ABI dependent packages consistent lest we miss getting one of them copied. | 15:25 |
tgardner | you --> we | 15:25 |
sconklin | yep | 15:25 |
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hallyn | i'll try here real quick - any recent update expected to break ability to tether over 3G? | 15:41 |
JFo | <-grabbing an early lunch so I can dig through papers for the Tax people :-/ | 15:58 |
apw | hallyn, not that i have heard of no | 16:05 |
hallyn | hm. this is gonna really screw up my week :) | 16:06 |
hallyn | suppose tmobile coudl be messing with me, but seems unlikely | 16:06 |
hallyn | ok, thanks, i'll start tracing | 16:06 |
Kano | apw: btw. you are right, the firmware is in rtlwifi dir, i used an older driver.. | 16:08 |
cnd | sconklin, thanks for the heads up on the w3c touch stuff :) | 16:14 |
cnd | I just reviewed it and have some comments for him | 16:14 |
sconklin | Doug is a really nice guy, would welcome contact. He'll be at LGM in Montreal, I'm pretty sure | 16:15 |
cnd | LGM? | 16:17 |
Kano | apw: just one thing, why does the r8192ce_pci module has got this extra id: pci:v000010ECd0000092Dsv*sd*bc*sc*i* | 16:19 |
sforshee | cnd, are you very familiar with the ntrig digitizer? | 16:19 |
cnd | sforshee, sadly, yes... | 16:19 |
Kano | and the rtl8192ce module from kernel .38 not | 16:20 |
sforshee | cnd, i could use some debugging tips if you have any | 16:20 |
cnd | sforshee, what's wrong? | 16:20 |
sforshee | i have a dell latitude xt2 where the pointer jumps around and clicks all the time | 16:20 |
sforshee | i've had to blacklist the driver just to make it usable | 16:20 |
sforshee | hid_ntrig, that is | 16:20 |
sforshee | it's spewing out multitouch events constantly | 16:21 |
bjf | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/intel-hit-with-chipset-design-flaw-in-sandy-bridge-rollout/44257 | 16:21 |
cnd | sforshee, hah, yeah, that's ntrig for you | 16:21 |
cnd | you can try calibrating it | 16:21 |
cnd | that should help | 16:21 |
cnd | let me get you the link | 16:21 |
sforshee | cnd, thanks, i'll give it a try | 16:21 |
cnd | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Calibration/Ntrig | 16:21 |
cnd | sforshee, I have the same problem on my dell studio 17 with ntrig | 16:22 |
cnd | it's what I use for my MT development | 16:22 |
sforshee | cnd, I saw your name in the driver changelog, so I thought I'd hit you up :) | 16:23 |
cnd | yeah... though most of the work was done by henrik rydberg | 16:23 |
cnd | who no longer is with us | 16:23 |
cnd | and probably never wants to touch that driver again | 16:24 |
cnd | I think it's going to be a festering sore spot for us until ntrig hw is so old that we can just forget about it | 16:24 |
manjo | tgardner, are you suggesting this package ? linux-backports-modules-net-maverick-server | 16:25 |
sforshee | cnd, getting build errors for undefined references to usb functions, is some library needed besides libusb-dev? | 16:26 |
cnd | sforshee, maybe, alas this isn't my code either... | 16:26 |
sforshee | cnd, okay, I'll work on figuring it out | 16:27 |
tgardner | manjo, no, I'm suggesting linux-image-server-lts-backport-maverick | 16:30 |
manjo | tgardner, ack will ask them if that works | 16:31 |
sforshee | cnd, everything's installed, and I got the build working by manually adding libusb.a in the makefile instead of -lusb, not sure though why -lusb isn't working | 16:38 |
sforshee | but calibrating did fix the problems | 16:38 |
sforshee | thanks for the help | 16:38 |
smoser | smb, around ? | 16:43 |
smb | smoser, indeed | 16:43 |
smoser | bug 686692 | 16:43 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 686692 in linux "natty kernel does not boot on ec2 t1.micro" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686692 | 16:43 |
smoser | seems still broken on i386 | 16:43 |
smb | smoser, still is relative. seems differently broken now. I am on it | 16:44 |
smoser | It does function on amd64 now. which is fan-tabulous. do you want me to open a new bug ? | 16:44 |
smb | smoser, yep likely new bug | 16:44 |
smoser | i'll open a new bug. | 16:44 |
apw | + /proc/device-tree: can't find root | 16:46 |
apw | an interesting diagnostic from 38 | 16:46 |
smb | apw, Interestingly CONFIG_COMPACT seems to have been turned on in Natty now, despite being marked experimental. Sadly turning it off does not help my case... :-/ | 16:49 |
apw | smb, i don't think it was one which i was asked about, may have been a requirement for THP or something | 16:50 |
apw | which it did ask about | 16:50 |
smoser | bug 710754 opened | 16:55 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 710754 in linux "natty kernel does not boot on t1.micro in arch i386" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710754 | 16:55 |
hallyn | apw: actually it just might be new kernel bug at usbpn_probe+0x28c/0x2c0. hm | 16:58 |
apw | smb, ^^ | 16:59 |
* hallyn pulling down the kernel-ppa daily over neighbor's wifi for a test | 17:00 | |
smb | apw, yeah yeah. saw it asked for it as well. :) | 17:00 |
smb | apw, btw, TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE selects COMPACTION and that MIGRATION. wibble | 17:02 |
apw | smb, could have done indeed, thats pretty scarey stuff | 17:04 |
apw | that is mel gormans fault if its bust | 17:04 |
apw | (the guy we met in ireland) | 17:04 |
smb | apw, Remember him. Well as said. Its seems still bad with that compaction thing taken back | 17:04 |
smb | but it was a nice red herring | 17:05 |
apw | heh, always like herring-rouge | 17:05 |
apw | ath: Country alpha2 being used: AM | 17:06 |
apw | tgardner, any idea what the heck that means ? | 17:06 |
tgardner | apw, not a clue | 17:07 |
cnd | sforshee, good to hear :) | 17:12 |
cnd | we should probably package that up... | 17:12 |
sforshee | cnd, it's a hack, i hard-coded the include path | 17:12 |
sforshee | it would be nice to find a better solution | 17:12 |
cnd | yeah | 17:13 |
sforshee | the lib path rather | 17:13 |
sforshee | when I get a few minutes I'll see if I can find something better | 17:13 |
cnd | well, the whole thing too :) | 17:13 |
cnd | a big hack | 17:13 |
sforshee | I'm wondering if there's another libusb somewhere that's getting pulled in instead, because there's no error about not finding the lib, just about unresolved symbols | 17:14 |
cnd | hmmm | 17:14 |
sforshee | cnd, 'readelf -s /usr/lib/libusb.so' shows the missing symbols are present | 17:16 |
hallyn | kernel-ppa daily won't finish booting | 17:21 |
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komputes | JFo: can you have another look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/701561 and let me know if any additional info is needed before assigning it. | 18:12 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 701561 in indicator-applet "IBM ThinkPad X31 not seen as laptop - battery status not available" [Undecided,New] | 18:12 |
JFo | yep, komputes, I need the apport-collected data | 18:15 |
JFo | not sure if there was anything else that apw mentioned wanting | 18:15 |
komputes | JFo: that hasn't been collected by opening the bug - apw mantionned that laptopdetect had to be run as sudo, which was done - result being it's detected as a laptop, yet still no battery status | 18:16 |
komputes | JFo: you want apport collect info for the kernel | 18:17 |
JFo | the first bit there didn't make much sense to me "that hasn't been collected by opening the bug" Correct, that hasn't been collected. unless you meant something else. :) | 18:17 |
JFo | I do :) | 18:17 |
apw | komputes, so we do think it is a laptop | 18:19 |
komputes | apw: indeed | 18:19 |
komputes | JFo: will do | 18:19 |
JFo | thank you sir :) | 18:19 |
apw | komputes, so what does the laptop-detect -v say ? | 18:21 |
komputes | apw: "We're a laptop..." | 18:21 |
apw | but what _exactly_ for example mine says | 18:22 |
apw | We're a laptop (ACPI batteries found) | 18:22 |
komputes | apw: sec | 18:22 |
komputes | apw: "We're a laptop (dmidecode returned Notebook)" | 18:22 |
apw | komputes, i assume that was sudo yes ? | 18:24 |
apw | what does it say without sudo? | 18:24 |
apw | komputes, ^^ | 18:27 |
komputes | apw: yes that was with sudo | 18:27 |
komputes | apw: without it said "We're not on a laptop (no relevant hints found)" | 18:28 |
komputes | hint* | 18:28 |
apw | komputes, what do the following return | 18:28 |
apw | ls /sys/class/power_supply | 18:29 |
bjf | ls | 18:29 |
apw | ls /proc/acpi/battery | 18:29 |
bjf | -EWRONGWINDOW | 18:29 |
komputes | apw: will find out and get back to you on those | 18:29 |
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bdmurray | JFo: bug 710371 has been tested with the upstream kernel build but I'm not familiar with your tagging policies | 19:33 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 710371 in linux "kernel oops on ssh through ipsec vpn" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710371 | 19:33 |
JFo | ok, thanks bdmurray | 19:33 |
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JFo | stepping away for a bit, not feeling too well. | 21:08 |
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emgent | good evening | 22:59 |
emgent | We are looking for a wireless linux kernel devloper (injection patches branch), spot job.. someone interested ? | 23:01 |
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