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grantbowI think I have the right night. Meeting is scheduled to start in about 10 minutes, right?02:50
rwwgrantbow: assuming the wiki's correct, yes02:52
* rww hasn't gotten around to putting his Ubuntu meeting reminders in Google Calendar yet :(02:52
pleia2yep02:57
grantbowpleia2: I am almost certain I am bannerless. I checked and didn't find any.02:58
pleia2grantbow: ok, maybe jdeslip has it02:59
jdeslipgrantbow: I must have it02:59
pleia2:)02:59
jdeslipI'll look tonight02:59
pleia2thanks02:59
* grantbow waves02:59
pleia2ok, meeting time!03:00
jdeslipI think the last time we used it was the Maker Faire03:00
pleia2Agenda is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11January3003:00
pleia2the only thing we have on it is SCaLE planning03:00
pleia2we've been updating https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x as we get more details03:00
pleia2we just received the booth pack from the SCaLE folks this week, so we have exhibitor badges now03:01
dragonAnnouncements after this item?03:01
pleia2the exhibitor badge gets you in the conference for free, we have 10 of them and can request more as needed03:01
pleia2dragon: yes03:01
pleia2so anyone who is volunteering at our booth can get one, just let me know and I'll send you the info03:02
pleia2if you want to attend but can't help at the booth much, we also have a 50% off code: UBUCA03:02
pleia2I don't have any news beyond that really, just trying to get together a full list of stuff we're bringing (banner, table signs, etc) and adding them to the wiki as needed03:03
dragonDoes this pass include entry to presentations and such sessions?03:04
pleia2dragon: yes03:04
pleia2you just sign up like regular, and at the end to pay for your ticket (including mentoring, whatever else you want) you put in the exhibitor code (different than a coupon code)03:05
dragon(the table of names on the wiki page has four columns for some reason :/)03:06
pleia2I think someone did that to make it easier to read, since it's just names03:06
dragonA bulleted list might be ideal for this. I can make the change, or I can add my name and leave the rest untouched.03:07
pleia2ok, feel free to change it03:07
rwwI was wondering about that when I saw it too :\03:07
pleia2anyone else have questions, news, etc regarding scale?03:08
pleia2erichammond: just talking about scale, any news, questions, comments from you?03:09
erichammondI have blank CDs03:09
erichammondAnd wifi router03:09
jdeslipI can also burn some disks03:09
pleia2jdeslip: when you know how many, can you add to the wiki? ( erichammond already added his)03:10
erichammondWill be able to be in booth some, but can't commit to specific times or amounts in advance03:10
pleia2specific times will be tricky without a speaking schedule03:10
pleia2I suspect we'll play it by ear03:10
erichammondThey usually put up a schedule before the event03:11
pleia2that'll be useful03:11
jdeslippleia2: ya03:12
erichammondMight be useful to put together some talking points for booth volunteers.03:12
pleia2yeah03:12
erichammondMight help get more volunteers as some folks may not be sure what to say when somebody just walks up.03:13
pleia2I'll be printing up some little fliers with all the team info on it too (I'll add to the wiki once I have a better idea what all I'm printing)03:13
erichammondI'm st03:14
erichammondStill thinking about what it would take to put together a security cam demo. No promises there either03:14
pleia2yeah, that would be cool :)03:15
icaruswhat do you mean?03:15
erichammondDo we know how many computers and monitors will be available?03:16
jdeslip(I can confirm I have the banner)03:16
Eurekawiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/Scale9x edited03:16
erichammondIcarus: one or two video cameras with security recording and monitoring software running on Ubuntu.03:17
pleia2jdeslip: thanks :)03:17
grantbowjdeslip: thanks03:17
pleia2ok, so we've got one more meeting before scale and a few weeks to get things together for the booth03:18
pleia2anyone else have anything, or shall we move on?03:18
pleia2alrighty, announcements & other stuff03:19
pleia2as usual, http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california has our upcoming events03:19
pleia2other announcements, comments, etc?03:19
pleia2dragon: did you have anything?03:21
dragonyes pleia2, a little announcements03:21
pleia2go for it :)03:21
dragons/s$//03:21
dragonLAMP Meetup group has an open slot for presentations to the community interested in web development and generally not-so-pro at Linux. We have the place reserved for *Thu, Feb 17*, so in case you have something related to LAMP that you'd like to present, please contact me asap. Even better if it relates to Ubuntu. Will give out free Ubuntu CDs at the event as usual.03:21
pleia2dragon: do you need any pressed CDs, or are you good?03:22
dragonpleia2: a few more would be great. ~20?03:22
pleia2sure, we can talk about how to get them to you later :)03:23
dragonsounds good, thanks!03:23
pleia2oh, I almost forgot, for SCaLE canonical shipped out 100 Ubuntu and 100 Kubuntu CDs for us03:24
grantbownice03:25
dragonThat's going to help. How many are we burning for SCaLE, approx?03:25
pleia2DarkwingDuck is bringing all the .iso files on a computer and erichammond is bringing at least 200 blanks, jdeslip said he'd bring some03:25
pleia2if you want to bring more just update the wiki with your totals so we have some idea03:26
dragonAnd there was that program our team started creating for a CD burning station - 'buntu stand?03:26
pleia2I don't know about that03:27
grantbowhttps://launchpad.net/buntustand03:27
pleia2neat03:28
grantbowpython based distributed but there was a library not checked in for awhile when last I tried to run it.03:28
grantbowdistributed meaning many machines burning as a team over the network03:29
rwwI think that project's... dormant.03:29
erichammondIf we are burning CDs then we also need cd covers.03:29
pleia2yeah, I think it's safe to say it's not something we'll be able to use at scale03:29
* akk whispers ... copy to USB sticks!03:29
grantbowMaybe someone will get inspired again but I wouldn't count on it.03:30
pleia2are the cd sleeves updated for 10.10 and 11.04?03:30
pleia2akk: even in bulk USB sticks are too expensive for us to give away :(03:30
pleia2CDs are super cheap03:30
jdeslipI can print 300 or cd covers03:30
akkpleia2: I didn't say provide free USB sticks, I said copy to them -- like if somoene comes by with one and wants ubuntu on it.03:30
rww^ this worked well last year03:31
pleia2akk: oh yeah, that's easy :)03:31
akkIt would be way faster than burning CDs, and more useful for most people (except folks with old computers).03:31
pleia2DarkwingDuck will have all the isos03:31
jdeslipsounds good03:31
pleia2also, do we want to update the sleeves with the new branding before scale? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/CDSleeves03:31
dragonIs it just me, or is System > About Ubuntu actually displaying "You are using Ubuntu 11.04 - the Natty Narwhal - released in April 2011..."03:31
grantbowmore and more machines boot from USB now, and for those that don't there's a few work arounds, one of which I used a few weeks back03:31
* akk would quite like natty burned onto a USB stick, if someone's set up at the booth to make them ... way easier than struggling with making one myself03:31
erichammondI can print a hunted or two once the design is updated03:32
erichammondEr, hundred03:32
jdeslipThe latest design does have 10.10 I think03:32
jdeslip(at least I got some from grantbow that had 10.10)03:33
pleia2jdeslip: yeah, I think we want to include 11.04 if we're printing up a bunch03:33
pleia2and new font would be nice03:33
jdeslipah, oko03:33
rwwdragon: /msg ubottu !version-bug03:33
grantbowjdeslip: compliments of Mr. Paoli03:34
dragonthanks rww!03:34
rww(join an ubottu channel if you aren't already in one, or that won't work)03:34
pleia2ok, well I'll take a look at the sleeves in bzr this week and see what we need to do to get them ready03:34
dragonrww: figured ;)03:35
dragonI can print hundreds of b/w sleeves. Please let me know if that'll help.03:35
pleia2ok, so jdeslip, erichammond and dragon all are able to do sleeve printing03:36
grantbowdragon: that will help :-)03:36
pleia2I'll let you guys know when I get the sleeve design sorted and you can work out who is printing what03:36
jdeslipsounds good03:36
grantbowawesome03:36
dragon+103:37
erichammondScale gets bigger every year. Do we have records of how many CDs we distributed in years past?03:37
nhainesNote that last year's SCaLE attendance was approximately 1400 and the target for this year is only 1500.03:39
erichammondUbuntu also gets more name recognition so might get a larger share of interest.03:40
pleia2we don't have records AFAIK03:40
erichammondAt some point, everybody will have Ubuntu installed so nobody will want a cd :)03:41
pleia2last year there was an Ubucon too, which isn't happening this time03:41
grantbowaha, lp:buntustand should compile now according to the checkin comments03:41
grantbows/compile/interpret/03:42
erichammondI thought there were several hundred CDs distributed a year or two ago. Not sure, though.03:42
grantbowanything else?03:44
pleia2I'm ready to wrap up03:45
nhainesNote that buntustand is written in Python and cannot be compiled.03:45
nhainesAlso note that there are records of the CD numbers for every SCaLE we've attended.03:46
pleia2nhaines: where? ( erichammond was asking)03:46
pleia2I was looking on the past scale pages but maybe I missed it03:46
nhainespleia2: although the LoCo Council has forbidden post-event debriefing meetings, those logs should contain CD estimates.03:47
pleia2what?03:47
grantbow?03:47
pleia2post-event debriefings are great :)03:47
nhainesI thought so too and was rebuked.03:48
pleia2I think you misunderstood :(03:48
nhainesI hightly doubt it.03:48
rwwhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/09March0803:48
pleia2thanks rww03:48
akkSurely it's not forbidden to get together and talk about how well an event went?03:48
nhainesAs regards Southern Califoria Ubucon, I'm currently hoping for an independant event this summer.03:48
pleia2akk: no, that's crazy03:48
nhainesakk: that's what they said.  It was a waste of time and should be abandoned.03:49
pleia2nhaines: that's not true :(03:49
nhainespleia2: It is.  They said if an event is mentioned afterwards in a blog then it should not be discussed at a meeting under any circumstances.03:49
pleia2the didn't like that we had super long meetings which insisted upon attendence of key volunteers for every event to do a wrap-up03:49
* pleia2 sighs03:49
pleia2I give up03:49
nhainesThat's what a  debriefing is.03:50
erichammondLost me.03:50
pleia2anyway, it's fine to talk about events03:50
* nhaines shrugs.03:50
rwwand https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/08February24 for SCaLE7x03:50
pleia2thanks rww :)03:50
pleia2ok, from the 8x notes:03:50
akkSo maybe it can't be a formal part of a council meeting that requires attendance of council members ... which isn't quite the same as saying folks can't talk about what worked and what didn't.03:50
pleia2Handed out about 150 CDs (compared to 120 last year), which is notable considering that Canonical was also handing out CDs there. Have about 100 pressed 8.10 desktop 32bit CDs left from the 200 Canonical gave us.03:50
rwwit's a shame that nobody ended up doing meeting summaries when I stopped, btw. They're rather useful.03:50
grantbowanything else?03:50
pleia2yeah, if someone could take up writing meeting minutes again it would be great (I already have a giant administrative load)03:51
pleia2I think we're done :)03:52
rwwjust need a /really/ bored college student to go rampaging through the archive. is what I did ;P03:52
pleia2heheh03:52
grantbowThanks everyone for participating.03:52
pleia2thanks everyone03:52
rww(the 2010 meetings on the Meetings page should be moved to Meetings/2010, btw. if anyone's looking for some wiki work to do)03:52
pleia2yeah, I just haven't had a chance yet03:53
pleia2sorry :\03:53
rwwnot a big deal, was just pointing it out in case nobody had noticed yet03:53
jdesliprww: you mean the sending of the summary to the mailing list right?03:55
rwwjdeslip: no, I mean summarizing meetings on the wiki like we (I) used to. sending them to the ML would be nice too, though.03:56
jdeslipAh, I see that now on the MeetingsChecklist03:58
dragonbtw /Meetings/110130 might be a bit more sortable|parsable|machine-readable than /Meetings/11January3003:58
dragonjust a thought.03:58
jdeslipI guess no one has been doing the "A Few Days After The Meeting" part03:58
pleia2right03:59
rwwdragon: I'd have gone with 2011-01-30, but by the time I started poking at meeting pages, there was already a year or two of existing meetings :(03:59
dragonah, fair enough03:59
jdeslipWell, any volunteers wouldn't be turned away :)03:59
dragonthough 2011 might be a good point to switch04:00
rwwso that, you know, when the LoCo has meetings in the year 3000, they're sorted properly.04:00
rww2100 **04:00
pleia2we've already had 2 meetings ;)04:00
pleia2(now 3)04:00
jdeslipOk, good night all04:00
dragonnight all!04:01
iheartubuntuDo any of you still use dial up service?04:17
iheartubuntuI am wondering. Lets say Im in Egypt and the presidential "kill switch" is triggered. How will I get online? Dial up maybe?04:18
akkIf they get the local ISPs to shut down, dialing up to them won't help. Unless you're dialing long-distance to your US ISP?04:19
iheartubuntuhhmmm. or even a foreign ISP04:21
iheartubuntuI found several free isp phone #'s for California.04:21
iheartubuntuThere looks like a good article in PC World about this. I havent read it yet tho... http://www.pcworld.com/article/218155/get_internet_access_when_your_government_shuts_it_down.html04:21
rwwEgyptians are using foreign dialup, I think.04:22
rwwplus I think one or two ISPs work04:22
iheartubuntuthis article mentions a wireless mesh network. Interesting.04:22
jtatumamateur radio04:29
iheartubuntuthats an idea04:30
* kdub can never make the meetings :(05:46
SWonderlyhey all21:24
pleia2hi SWonderly21:26
SWonderlyok this computer is screwy.21:27
jamiedmattinglyhi SWonderly and pleia221:29
SWonderlyHello Jamie21:29
pleia2g'day jamiedmattingly21:29
pleia2SWonderly: any relation to our david? :)21:29
SWonderlyHis wife21:29
jamiedmattinglydid you go to scale this weekend?21:30
DarkwingDuckpleia2: She is my wife.21:30
pleia2oh, so he's /your/ DarkwingDuck21:30
SWonderlyI am Darkwing's wife.21:30
DarkwingDuckI finally got her on this thing.21:30
pleia2:)21:30
pleia2cool21:30
SWonderlyYep finally got me on here.21:30
DarkwingDuckSWonderly: the person I was telling you about re the Ubuntu Womans thing... it's pleia221:30
DarkwingDuckand you guy will hopfully get to meet at Scale21:30
SWonderlyI did not go to scale this weekend. I'm hoping to go to the one in Feb.21:31
DarkwingDuckScale is n feb.21:31
DarkwingDuckn/in21:31
jamiedmattinglyok my mistake got dates mixed up21:31
DarkwingDuckjamiedmattingly: it's at the end of Feb21:31
DarkwingDuck:D21:32
SWonderlyLeave it to my husband to correct the dates.21:32
SWonderlygotta run real quick. Will be back soon to talk.21:32
SWonderlyok. I'm back.22:02
jbermudespleia2: do you still need volunteers for SCaLE?23:59
pleia2jbermudes: yep!23:59

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