/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/01/31/#ubuntu-us-pa.txt

Travelerno configure/make experts around lately ?00:06
MutantTurkeyubuntu = fail for development. end of discussion00:31
MutantTurkeycircular depends, all sorts of crap i've run into. version problems. meh.00:31
MutantTurkeylets laugh at this link : http://xkcd.com/754/00:32
PennBotTitle: xkcd: Dependencies (at xkcd.com)00:32
TravelerIt shoulda been cpsc432 - cpsc433 prereq       and   cpsc433 - cpsc432 prereq00:43
MutantTurkeyhehe00:58
maciej_why can't i change a folder permissions to read only after sudo nautiluis02:14
ChinnoDogAre you on 10.10?02:14
maciej_yes02:14
ChinnoDogjust a sec. trying it.02:15
maciej_after i change the file acces to read only as root it jumps back to "-"02:15
ChinnoDogoh, you mean on the top part of the permissions tab?02:16
maciej_yeah02:17
ChinnoDogI think it is because that field is not relevant when setting permissions on a folder02:17
maciej_i need to copy a folder to my sd card on my android phone but it has to be read only02:17
andrewevening02:17
ChinnoDogmaciej_: then set folder access to "list files only"02:19
ChinnoDogIf you 'ls -l' you will see that it only sets the read flag on the folder.02:19
maciej_ok i see now, im very new at this, thank you02:21
ChinnoDogmaciej_: who are you protecting the folder from?02:21
maciej_the folder has audio.ogg files that i want to use for my ringtones but last i tried to copy the file to the android system it could only be read only02:22
ChinnoDogMeaning it was not selectable as a ringtone if it was not read only?02:22
maciej_i couldn't place the folder in the audio section of android , i was moving the folder from my sd card02:23
maciej_let me see if it works02:24
ChinnoDogAre you putting the file in /sdcard/ringtones or /syste/media/audio/ringtones?02:28
ChinnoDogoops02:28
ChinnoDog/system/media/audio/ringtones02:28
maciej_system media audio ringtones02:29
ChinnoDogThe files in there are mode 64402:31
ChinnoDogroot is owner and has write access. Are you saying android complains if group or other access has +w?02:32
ChinnoDogThere are ringtones in here I didn't even know existed. They must have come down with an OTA update.02:33
maciej_i couldn't copy the folder, the folder has permissions rwxrwxr-x02:34
maciej_i may just need to find an app that lets me change the folder permissions on android02:35
maciej_i dont understand why i can't make a folder read only on ubuntu02:35
ChinnoDogoh. I am browsing the file system from connectbot on the phone...02:35
maciej_are you able to long press on a folder and have an option to change permissions?02:36
ChinnoDogI'm browsing from a terminal02:36
ChinnoDogAstro might let you do it. I don't currently have it installed02:36
maciej_why is it so hard to make a folder read only on here, i may try on windwos, i know its a simple check box to make a folder read only02:36
ChinnoDogI still don't understand why you want the folder to be read only..02:37
ChinnoDogYou want more permissions, not less02:37
ChinnoDogunix permisisons and windows permissions work differently. The result is the same as what I told you.02:37
maciej_when i move the folder with the ogg files to system/media/audio/notifications- a warning says cannot paste here because the file system is read only02:38
maciej_maybe i need to change permissions of the folder i'm trying to copy to02:39
ChinnoDogDid you root the phone?02:39
maciej_yeah02:39
ChinnoDogSo you can just log into it with a terminal and change the permissions on the folder there.02:39
maciej_terminal on android?02:41
ChinnoDogYes, like ConnectBot02:41
ChinnoDogI use Irssi ConnectBot which was forked to make using irssi easier in the terminal02:41
ChinnoDogBut, why are you so resistant to putting you ringtone on your SD card?02:41
ChinnoDogs/you/your02:41
maciej_i guess i dont have to put the new notifications with the system notifications, android will just scan the disk youre saying?02:43
ChinnoDogAccording to this it will: http://androidforums.com/android-lounge/5930-definitive-androids-folder-structure.html02:43
ChinnoDogPennBot: Are you awake?02:44
PennBotDunno, ChinnoDog.02:44
ChinnoDogandrew: Is PennBot's web browser broken?02:44
maciej_thats easy enough02:44
ChinnoDogSo you were just making this difficult this whole time?  hehe02:45
maciej_yes02:45
andrewPennBot: ping02:47
PennBotpong02:47
andrewhttp://www.google.com02:47
PennBotTitle: Google (at www.google.com)02:47
andrewhttp://androidforums.com/android-lounge/5930-definitive-androids-folder-structure.html02:47
andrewhmm02:47
ChinnoDogGuess we were no longer useful to her.02:48
andrewdunno02:48
ChinnoDoghttp://www.google.com02:49
PennBotTitle: Google (at www.google.com)02:49
ChinnoDogMust be the url?02:49
ChinnoDoghttp://www.google.com/index.html02:49
PennBotTitle: Google (at www.google.com)02:49
ChinnoDoghttp://androidforums.com02:51
ChinnoDoghttp://www.androidforums.com02:51
ChinnoDogandrew: PennBot doesn't like this web site I guess?02:51
andrewor the website returns something different for his user-agent?02:51
ChinnoDogWhat user-agent is he sending?02:52
andrewdunno off hand02:52
andrewgive him a url that you can pull the logs from02:52
ChinnoDoghttp://www.chinnodog.com02:52
PennBotTitle: ChinnoDogs blog - Just me and my inflatable life. (at www.chinnodog.com)02:52
ChinnoDog207.192.72.66 - - [30/Jan/2011:21:53:44 -0500] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 15952 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Compatible; Supybot 0.83.4.1)"02:53
andrewtry switching your user agent to that and visiting the android site02:54
ChinnoDogidk how to do that in chrome02:54
ChinnoDogI guess I could override it in ff02:54
andrewneither do i off hand02:54
ChinnoDogoh. I don't have that plugin installed02:54
MutantTurkey chrome hmmm?02:56
MutantTurkeydoes ubuntu provide chrome or chromium?02:57
andrewium02:58
ChinnoDogI use chrome from the google repo i think02:58
andrewbut chrome is easy enough to install02:58
ChinnoDogah. I got the Modify Headers extension working in chrome03:04
ChinnoDogI mean ff, not chrome03:04
ChinnoDogandrew: androidforums.com looks the same with this header...03:05
ChinnoDogMust be a genuine bug03:07
andrewdunno03:07
andrewreport it then03:08
ChinnoDogandrew: What category is this?  plugin or core module?03:16
ChinnoDogor 3rd party?03:16
andrewplugin03:25
ChinnoDoghttps://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3168483&group_id=58965&atid=48944703:35
PennBotTitle: SourceForge.net: Supybot: Detail: 3168483 - Can't retrieve info for androidforums.com (at sourceforge.net)03:35
Travelerwhat does this line in a script do?    ac_res=-l$ac_lib06:05
Travelereveryone sawin' zzzz's already ?06:09
Travelerrestarting06:35
Travelerso quiet around here12:45
TravelerGOOD MORNING !!!!12:45
SamuraiAlbaGood bacon to all!12:48
JonathanDmorning13:01
JonathanDI hope you brought enough for the whole class.13:01
TravelerWell, I FINALLY made the install work.   I am now UNdeleting "permanently" deleted files from an ext4 file system.14:01
Travelernow boot back to normal system14:12
ChinnoDogsup, turkey?16:58
ChinnoDogWokFi++19:20
ChinnoDogWhy didn't I think of that?19:20
ChinnoDog"Additional sleet accumulation up to 1 inch"20:07
ChinnoDogThat is a lot of ice20:07
pleia2sheesh, you guys are having another busy winter20:08
JonathanDweather people told us this would be a "mild winter"20:08
pleia2not truth20:08
JonathanDmaybe they meant in australia.20:09
JonathanDwait, hasn't been mild there either.20:09
ChinnoDogPhil's not going to be able to come out of his hole this year20:09
waltmanNor has it been winter.20:09
ChinnoDogs/Phil's not/Phil isn't/ (idk how I did that...)20:10
waltmaneither way works20:10
ChinnoDog"Phil's" doesn't work last I checked. It denotes posession, not a contraction.20:11
pleia2it's a contraction for "Phil is"20:12
pleia2it's fine20:12
waltmanwhat pleia2 said20:13
waltmanpleia2: we don't even want to know what the weather's like in SF today, do we?20:13
ChinnoDogSince when can you use an apostrophe after the noun as a contraction?20:13
pleia2waltman: nope20:13
pleia2the general rule I use is "thing's" ok if it can be expanded to "thing is"20:14
pleia2or if it's actually posesseive20:14
waltmanChinnoDog: It's a common contraction.20:14
pleia2"she's going to the store"20:14
waltmanIt's a common contraction."20:14
ChinnoDoghttp://blog.writersdigest.com/qq/Contractions+With+Proper+Nouns+Brians+A+Baseball+Fan.aspx20:18
ChinnoDogI guess your right, there is no rule against it20:18
PennBotTitle: Writer's Digest Questions and Quandaries - Contractions With Proper Nouns (Brian's a baseball Fan) (at blog.writersdigest.com)20:18
ChinnoDogI never use it with a proper noun though.20:18
ChinnoDogI do use it with personal pronouns though20:19
ChinnoDogThat is interesting... a convention I was unaware I was following.20:20
waltmanChinnoDog: Hint -- when questioning proper apostrophe usage, perhaps it's a good idea to not confuse your and you're :)20:23
ChinnoDog:-p Yes, you're right. I do that all the time.20:24
pleia2english is hard20:24
jedijfyour/you're is my fail...until i hit enter then i realize it...need a takeback button20:25
waltmanThat's why I try to stick with "ur" :)20:26
ChinnoDogPennBot needs a grammer check so he can be sure we are all speaking the King's English.20:26
PennBotGot it, ChinnoDog.20:26
waltmanIt's really odd how that works.  I do that all the time, too.  I guess they're mapped together in my brain somehow.20:27
jedijfi blame it on rushing or multitasking20:28
jedijfwhich i know humans can't do.....20:28
jedijfbut i try and fail constantly.....20:28
ChinnoDogThe first time I saw "we've cheeseburger" I didn't like that either, but I had to accept that usage too.20:29
waltmanChinnoDog: That's more of a British usage. It's not common in USAnian English.20:30
ChinnoDogThe person that wrote it was British. :-)20:30
ChinnoDogOr at least, that is where he learned English. He had an accent.20:31
andrewpleia2: Do you have a problem with our weekly midweek winter storms?20:45
pleia2andrew: problem? no20:46
pleia2a little sad that PA didn't decide to let loose with the awesome winters until I left though20:46
andrewCome back! It's not too late20:48
JonathanDDoes anyone happen to have a thinkpad x200? :)20:52
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SamuraiAlbagood bacon to all!23:00

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