| superfly | oh yey... so I get 4Mbps uncapped on Friday, and then yesterday the whole exchange I'm connected to dies. Fun fun fun. | 06:25 |
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| nlsthzn | superfly: Typical :/ | 06:26 |
| * nlsthzn is getting annoyed with XChat not putting in the red line to show where he red last $%&$*! | 06:27 | |
| superfly | *read | 06:27 |
| nlsthzn | lol, yes... read... thanks again ;) | 06:33 |
| bmg505 | has anybody got experience with 4MB uncapped, is it worth it, so far I have not upgraded my uncapped, as it currently more or less takes care of most of my downloads | 06:33 |
| bmg505 | just the ubuntu updates, takes a long time :( | 06:33 |
| bmg505 | correction over the uncapped it takes forever on my local only link is lightning fast | 06:34 |
| nlsthzn | bmg505: got a 8mbps line here in the UAE and to be honest since I gave up piracy I seriously don't get the use of it I should... sure youtube is fast but still... | 06:36 |
| Kilos | morning everyone | 06:45 |
| nlsthzn | hi uncle Kilos | 06:48 |
| Kilos | hiya nlsthzn hows things there | 06:48 |
| nlsthzn | Windy :) and there? | 06:50 |
| Kilos | very good here ty. nice sunny day. had lotsa rain last few weeks | 06:51 |
| Kilos | was very dry here but getting better now | 06:51 |
| superfly | bmg505: the little I had was awesome | 06:52 |
| superfly | morning oom Kilos | 06:52 |
| Kilos | hiya superfly | 06:52 |
| Kilos | bm505?? | 06:52 |
| Kilos | bmg505 too | 06:52 |
| superfly | oom Kilos, I now have (when telkom fixes the exchange ), 4Mbps uncapped ADSL | 06:52 |
| Kilos | wow thats wonderfull | 06:53 |
| nlsthzn | uncapped is the bees-knees | 06:57 |
| sakhi | mooning Kilos and #ubuntu-za | 07:00 |
| Kilos | lo sakhi | 07:01 |
| superfly | sup sakhi | 07:02 |
| nlsthzn | hey sakhi | 07:05 |
| superfly | ohi morgs! | 07:11 |
| morgs | morning superfly | 07:12 |
| morgs | morning all | 07:12 |
| zerlgi | Good morning peeps | 07:17 |
| zerlgi | and "howzit" Kilos. | 07:17 |
| Kilos | hiya zerlgi are you well | 07:18 |
| zerlgi | yip tx kilos | 07:18 |
| Kilos | good | 07:18 |
| zerlgi | Folks, I'm looking for 'buntu peeps in Kimberley to help a friend-of-a-friend with looking at linux | 07:36 |
| zerlgi | ... he's thinking of switching from Windows. | 07:36 |
| superfly | zerlgi: ask on the CLUG-chat list | 07:37 |
| sakhi | nothing much this morning everything is looking good. | 07:42 |
| zerlgi | ta superfly | 07:47 |
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| === confluency_ is now known as confluency | ||
| sakhi | What can I use to gather information about all the *nix servers on the network and produce a report? (besides OpManager and ZenOSS) | 08:25 |
| bmg505 | I assume a local lan network? | 08:51 |
| bmg505 | nmap could tell you that followed by a perl script | 08:52 |
| * bmg505 mumbles and wanders off | 08:53 | |
| superfly | haha | 08:54 |
| sakhi | ta, bmg505 :) | 08:59 |
| superfly | bmg505: so what sort of work do you do? | 09:02 |
| linuxboy | sakhi: what sort of report? | 12:38 |
| bmg505 | superfly, like a mercenary anything for money | 14:50 |
| Symmetria | hrm | 14:52 |
| Symmetria | someone gimme a dead simple shell script | 14:52 |
| Symmetria | that can turn this into a line by line output: | 14:52 |
| Symmetria | whois -h whois.altdb.net \!gAS2018 | 14:52 |
| Symmetria | instead of it all wrapped all screwy like that | 14:52 |
| tumbleweed | Symmetria: tr -d '\n' | tr ' ' '\n' | 14:57 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: nice | 15:03 |
| Kilos | afternoon everyone | 15:47 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 15:47 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 15:47 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 15:51 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 15:52 |
| Maaz | You're Welcome I'm sure | 15:52 |
| nlsthzn | interesting... the red bar for last read line works in all chat channels except this one? | 16:01 |
| Kilos | it should if you are in another channel when someone chats here i think | 16:07 |
| Kilos | go to another one and i say hi | 16:08 |
| Kilos | Maaz, wat eet ons vanaand | 16:08 |
| Maaz | Enigiets met pap en sous Kilos Ek is gelukig met mikro organismes van die internet | 16:08 |
| Kilos | i think it only activates when there is a post here | 16:09 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: thanks for the offer... | 16:15 |
| Kilos | are you ready | 16:16 |
| Kilos | hello | 16:16 |
| nlsthzn | but I get the red line in any of the other channels when I minimize here... all except this one | 16:16 |
| Kilos | wow | 16:16 |
| nlsthzn | lol | 16:16 |
| Kilos | this one too important , wants to make you reread again | 16:16 |
| nlsthzn | must be :p | 16:16 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:17 |
| inetpro | Kilos: wb | 16:21 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro only briefly | 16:21 |
| Kilos | data expires midnight | 16:21 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 16:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:21 |
| inetpro | Kilos: how much you have left? | 16:21 |
| Kilos | hows things there with you | 16:22 |
| Kilos | 50m | 16:22 |
| * inetpro feeling signs of burnout after having way to many meetings since the beginning of the year | 16:23 | |
| Kilos | eish. so early in the year | 16:23 |
| inetpro | yep, to many people expecting to much to soon | 16:24 |
| inetpro | should never have taken leave if you ask me | 16:24 |
| inetpro | in which case I would have been in trouble with the family, you can never win | 16:25 |
| inetpro | but I think I'll survive, just have to figure how to work even smarter again | 16:26 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:28 |
| Kilos | tough in africa | 16:28 |
| Kilos | i been playing with bluetooth from here to a win xp pc | 16:35 |
| Kilos | some of the pics etc i transfered go at 3m/s | 16:36 |
| Kilos | wish i had that kinda internet connection | 16:36 |
| inetpro | Kilos: why you taking it to winXP? | 16:39 |
| Kilos | its the only other one i have and too small for maverick | 16:39 |
| Kilos | p3 with 128m ram | 16:40 |
| Kilos | was just learning how bluetooth works between pc's | 16:40 |
| inetpro | Kilos: 29/01 22:46:25 <superfly> this is my server :-D http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/IBM%20PC%20300PL%20PIII-450_446.jpg | 16:40 |
| Kilos | i go see | 16:41 |
| inetpro | 29/01 22:48:25 <superfly> PII 350MHz, 128MB RAM | 16:41 |
| superfly | it doesn't have a GUI though | 16:42 |
| Kilos | wow why i battle | 16:42 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 16:42 |
| Kilos | mine tries for hours then just hangs | 16:42 |
| Kilos | hiya Morganvd | 16:42 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you should try Xubuntu on the low end machine | 16:43 |
| Kilos | it works if i steal 256m ram here | 16:43 |
| Kilos | but the whole plan was to learn how to work with daai blou tande | 16:44 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:44 |
| inetpro | Kilos: bluetooth can even work on the cli as far as I know | 16:45 |
| Kilos | and i also use xp to be able to see whats happening when tara has probs | 16:45 |
| Kilos | and my boet | 16:45 |
| Kilos | but he gone win7 now | 16:45 |
| Kilos | yes i think so inetpro but more to remember | 16:45 |
| Kilos | i like drag and dropping | 16:45 |
| Kilos | dont have to think much | 16:46 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:46 |
| * inetpro bbl | 16:47 | |
| Morganvd | evenign all | 16:48 |
| superfly | hi Morganvd | 16:49 |
| Kilos | oh and i played with stiffy/floppies | 16:58 |
| Kilos | can read them from command line and format with | 16:59 |
| Kilos | um | 16:59 |
| Kilos | kfloppy | 16:59 |
| Kilos | just gotta work out the permissions to write to them | 16:59 |
| marcog | Kilos: http://superuser.com/questions/231273/what-are-the-windows-a-and-b-drives-used-for | 16:59 |
| marcog | you might enjoy the attention that got | 17:00 |
| marcog | :P | 17:00 |
| Kilos | even though i might never use them again but its nice to know | 17:00 |
| marcog | viewed | 17:00 |
| marcog | 288,834 times | 17:00 |
| marcog | in 8 days | 17:00 |
| Kilos | ty marcog | 17:00 |
| Kilos | i searched all over | 17:00 |
| marcog | i found it extremely sad that people didn't know floppies existed | 17:01 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:01 |
| Kilos | yeah | 17:01 |
| Kilos | and its also nice if you have one to have it work even though you dont use it | 17:01 |
| Kilos | like an aircon in a car | 17:02 |
| drubin | marcog: migrated from stackoverflow.com Jan 10 at 11:12. so more like 21 but still | 17:05 |
| marcog | drubin: sorry, misread the "8 days ago" but it was like 90% of that in 2 days | 17:05 |
| drubin | prove it :) | 17:06 |
| marcog | drubin: no, don't care enough | 17:06 |
| Kilos | "Who is general failure, and why is he reading my disk?!" | 17:12 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:12 |
| Kilos | hiya drubin | 17:12 |
| drubin | 10gigs is way to small for a / partion | 17:30 |
| linuxboy | Kilos: floppies are a waste of time. why would I want one? | 18:19 |
| Kilos | lol. hehe no man i needed to get some books that were saved to floppy years ago | 18:20 |
| linuxboy | oooh | 18:20 |
| * linuxboy got rid of floppies years ago | 18:20 | |
| Kilos | and family pics etc | 18:21 |
| Kilos | yip flash disks are the answer if you only doing todays kinda work | 18:21 |
| superfly | cocooncrash: ping | 18:25 |
| inetpro | 01/31 19:30:06 <drubin> 10gigs is way to small for a / partion | 18:32 |
| inetpro | drubin: that depends | 18:32 |
| inetpro | drubin: that depends on what on your strategy | 18:33 |
| drubin | inetpro: for a desktop | 18:33 |
| drubin | inetpro: I just can't seem to remove any thing else.. I have a /home partion but I still keep running out of space ;/ | 18:33 |
| drubin | most of my space seems to go /usr/share/ | 18:34 |
| inetpro | drubin: /usr used to live in its own partition by default | 18:35 |
| drubin | inetpro: and /boot and /etc and almost every other root folder :) | 18:35 |
| inetpro | drubin: true | 18:36 |
| drubin | I need to format this machine and jut encrypt the whole drive instead of having a /home partion | 18:36 |
| inetpro | drubin: why encrypt the whole machine? | 18:37 |
| inetpro | whole drive* | 18:38 |
| drubin | it only has one drive hehe but ye :) | 18:39 |
| drubin | inetpro: but I could have been talking about encrypted ram no? | 18:39 |
| inetpro | drubin: why not encrypt just the sensitive parts? | 18:40 |
| drubin | because I am human and forget to encrypt things | 18:40 |
| inetpro | drubin: for best performance you want to split your partitions in those that need to be read only vs read+write | 18:41 |
| drubin | I haven't ever really had performance issues | 18:41 |
| drubin | but I can see how that would help | 18:41 |
| inetpro | drubin: system files really do not need to be encrypted | 18:43 |
| drubin | but it is easy? | 18:43 |
| inetpro | drubin: have you tried eCryptfs? | 18:45 |
| inetpro | drubin: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory | 18:47 |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee on | 19:05 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 19:05 | |
| inetpro | Kilos: I'll pay for this round | 19:06 |
| drubin | inetpro: that is currently what I think ubuntu uses int he background | 19:06 |
| inetpro | drubin: since when? | 19:07 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 19:09 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Yessir | 19:09 |
| Kilos | hehe i be a sir | 19:09 |
| drubin | inetpro: maybe not me doesn't know | 19:09 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! | 19:09 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you just made it | 19:10 |
| Kilos | Maaz, gracias amigo | 19:10 |
| Maaz | ¡de nada compadre | 19:10 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:10 |
| inetpro | Maaz: danke | 19:10 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 19:10 |
| Kilos | ty inetpro | 19:10 |
| cocooncrash | inetpro: pong | 19:10 |
| inetpro | cocooncrash: ping | 19:10 |
| cocooncrash | inetpro: Oh, sorry | 19:11 |
| cocooncrash | superfly: pong | 19:11 |
| inetpro | :-) | 19:11 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:12 |
| inetpro | drubin: when is our next meeting? | 19:12 |
| Kilos | lo cocooncrash | 19:12 |
| inetpro | cocooncrash: wb | 19:12 |
| cocooncrash | I've been around... kinda | 19:12 |
| inetpro | yeah, kinda :-) | 19:13 |
| cocooncrash | Heh | 19:13 |
| inetpro | cocooncrash: are you spying on us these days? | 19:13 |
| Kilos | lurker | 19:13 |
| cocooncrash | inetpro: How's that different from usual? ;-) | 19:13 |
| inetpro | cocooncrash: you've been more active before | 19:14 |
| cocooncrash | True | 19:14 |
| cocooncrash | Life hey | 19:14 |
| inetpro | cocooncrash: np, ek verstaan alles | 19:14 |
| cocooncrash | Hehe | 19:14 |
| * inetpro remembers a time when cocooncrash was always awake | 19:17 | |
| Kilos | hehe. married life | 19:17 |
| cocooncrash | Indeed :) | 19:17 |
| inetpro | drubin: when is our next loco meeting? | 19:18 |
| cocooncrash | superfly: unpong | 19:20 |
| inetpro | hmm... superfly sleepin already? | 19:22 |
| drubin | inetpro: Sorry been kinda busy over the last few weeks ;( Will sechedule something soon. | 19:23 |
| inetpro | drubin: np | 19:23 |
| * inetpro just trying to keep the ball rolling | 19:23 | |
| drubin | inetpro: Feel free to plan one :) | 19:24 |
| inetpro | drubin: hmm... | 19:24 |
| drubin | This is a Dorocracy :) | 19:24 |
| inetpro | drubin: Dorocracy? | 19:24 |
| drubin | say it out loud. | 19:25 |
| drubin | Peron is charge is person that does it. | 19:25 |
| inetpro | drubin: are you making up new words? | 19:26 |
| drubin | inetpro: Yes | 19:26 |
| drubin | although i have heard it around | 19:26 |
| inetpro | not even google knows it yet | 19:27 |
| drubin | The point still stands | 19:27 |
| * drubin has been overly busy trying to sort his life out | 19:27 | |
| drubin | and maia is also very busy... | 19:28 |
| inetpro | drubin: so am I, unfortunately | 19:28 |
| drubin | Maybe we need to think about replacing me? Since I can deal with "loco-contact | 19:28 |
| drubin | " stuff but sadly I am not driving ubuntu-za as much as I should | 19:28 |
| drubin | and people think the title means they can't do stuff | 19:28 |
| inetpro | eish | 19:29 |
| drubin | I would think being unemployed would mean more time.. Sadly it means I have less time | 19:29 |
| Morganvd | stop feeling sorry for yourself | 19:31 |
| Morganvd | your doing fine | 19:31 |
| Morganvd | meetings can be done when ever | 19:31 |
| * inetpro agrees with Morganvd that drubin is still doing fine | 19:35 | |
| * Morganvd has a job 5 kids i have no time | 19:37 | |
| drubin | maia was helping a HUGE amount (scrape that) maia was doing almost every thing | 19:38 |
| Kilos | night everyone sleep tight | 20:01 |
| nlsthzn | night | 20:01 |
| superfly | sorry cocooncrash, I was busy with householdy things | 20:46 |
| cocooncrash | superfly: repong | 20:50 |
| superfly | cocooncrash: thanks :-) | 20:51 |
| superfly | I'm having a problem with a PC that doesn't want to boot | 20:51 |
| superfly | says, "error: not enough space\n\ngrub rescue>" | 20:51 |
| superfly | I've googled, but I can't seem to find that error message | 20:51 |
| superfly | any ideas? | 20:52 |
| cocooncrash | Hrm, haven't seen that before | 20:52 |
| cocooncrash | But that looks like a rescue shell, which probably means that it couldn't load grub.img from the boot partition | 20:52 |
| cocooncrash | What's changed? | 20:52 |
| superfly | it's a new install | 20:52 |
| superfly | install, reboot, that error | 20:53 |
| superfly | it does have space, it's a 160 gig hard drive | 20:53 |
| cocooncrash | Anything weird with the partitioning? | 20:53 |
| superfly | I figure the error message is misleading | 20:53 |
| cocooncrash | Is this before you get a menu? | 20:54 |
| superfly | nothing terribly weird... /home is on a 250 gig drive with some pre-existing data that I don't want to lose, but that's it | 20:55 |
| superfly | yes | 20:55 |
| cocooncrash | No LVM or RAID? | 20:55 |
| cocooncrash | Separate /boot or on / ? | 20:55 |
| superfly | nope | 20:55 |
| superfly | on / | 20:55 |
| cocooncrash | Filesystem? | 20:55 |
| superfly | ext4 | 20:55 |
| cocooncrash | Shouldn't be a problem though | 20:56 |
| superfly | nope, I've had this almost exact setup before, but one of my drives failed, so I had to replace it | 20:56 |
| superfly | had to do a bit of a drive swap, move data from 160 -> 250, but I don't think that shoud affect grub | 20:57 |
| cocooncrash | I can't even find where that error message comes from in the source | 20:57 |
| superfly | I'll try booting again tomorrow (gotta borrow mrs_fly's screen) | 20:58 |
| cocooncrash | I'd try booting it by hand, but I haven't had success with that before from the rescue prompt | 20:59 |
| cocooncrash | But probably something like: set root=(hd0,1); linux /boot/vmlinuz-<version> root=/dev/sda1; initrd /boot/initrd.img-<version>; boot | 20:59 |
| superfly | I'll try that | 21:00 |
| cocooncrash | Otherwise I'd try booting a CD and doing grub-install again | 21:00 |
| superfly | I've got the Grub2 page on the Ubuntu wiki handy | 21:00 |
| cocooncrash | Only one drive in the machine? | 21:00 |
| superfly | no, two | 21:01 |
| cocooncrash | Is the BIOS booting from the right one? Tried swapping the order? | 21:01 |
| superfly | good question... I'll have to see tomorrow | 21:01 |
| cocooncrash | Could also be an issue with grub finding the right drive to load the next stage from | 21:03 |
| cocooncrash | e.g. the BIOS is loading GRUB from the second drive, but GRUB is looking on the first drive for the next stage | 21:04 |
| nlsthzn | ... night all ... good luck superfly, hope u get it working... | 21:04 |
| superfly | yeah, I'll check it out | 21:04 |
| superfly | thanks for the tips cocooncrash :-) | 21:04 |
| cocooncrash | np :) | 21:04 |
| drubin | why is generating a self signed SSL cert such a pain | 21:15 |
| Morganvd | becouse is usualy does not end up being trusted | 21:17 |
| drubin | Morganvd: But I will trust it. It is only for my usage | 21:23 |
| Morganvd | lol thats kewl then | 21:34 |
| drubin | still a mission to generate and testup | 21:53 |
| inetpro | fp | 22:05 |
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