[06:25] oh yey... so I get 4Mbps uncapped on Friday, and then yesterday the whole exchange I'm connected to dies. Fun fun fun. [06:26] superfly: Typical :/ [06:27] * nlsthzn is getting annoyed with XChat not putting in the red line to show where he red last $%&$*! [06:27] *read [06:33] lol, yes... read... thanks again ;) [06:33] has anybody got experience with 4MB uncapped, is it worth it, so far I have not upgraded my uncapped, as it currently more or less takes care of most of my downloads [06:33] just the ubuntu updates, takes a long time :( [06:34] correction over the uncapped it takes forever on my local only link is lightning fast [06:36] bmg505: got a 8mbps line here in the UAE and to be honest since I gave up piracy I seriously don't get the use of it I should... sure youtube is fast but still... [06:45] morning everyone [06:48] hi uncle Kilos [06:48] hiya nlsthzn hows things there [06:50] Windy :) and there? [06:51] very good here ty. nice sunny day. had lotsa rain last few weeks [06:51] was very dry here but getting better now [06:52] bmg505: the little I had was awesome [06:52] morning oom Kilos [06:52] hiya superfly [06:52] bm505?? [06:52] bmg505 too [06:52] oom Kilos, I now have (when telkom fixes the exchange ), 4Mbps uncapped ADSL [06:53] wow thats wonderfull [06:57] uncapped is the bees-knees [07:00] mooning Kilos and #ubuntu-za [07:01] lo sakhi [07:02] sup sakhi [07:05] hey sakhi [07:11] ohi morgs! [07:12] morning superfly [07:12] morning all [07:17] Good morning peeps [07:17] and "howzit" Kilos. [07:18] hiya zerlgi are you well [07:18] yip tx kilos [07:18] good [07:36] Folks, I'm looking for 'buntu peeps in Kimberley to help a friend-of-a-friend with looking at linux [07:36] ... he's thinking of switching from Windows. [07:37] zerlgi: ask on the CLUG-chat list [07:42] nothing much this morning everything is looking good. [07:47] ta superfly === morgs_ is now known as morgs === confluency_ is now known as confluency [08:25] What can I use to gather information about all the *nix servers on the network and produce a report? (besides OpManager and ZenOSS) [08:51] I assume a local lan network? [08:52] nmap could tell you that followed by a perl script [08:53] * bmg505 mumbles and wanders off [08:54] haha [08:59] ta, bmg505 :) [09:02] bmg505: so what sort of work do you do? [12:38] sakhi: what sort of report? [14:50] superfly, like a mercenary anything for money [14:52] hrm [14:52] someone gimme a dead simple shell script [14:52] that can turn this into a line by line output: [14:52] whois -h whois.altdb.net \!gAS2018 [14:52] instead of it all wrapped all screwy like that [14:57] Symmetria: tr -d '\n' | tr ' ' '\n' [15:03] tumbleweed: nice [15:47] afternoon everyone [15:47] Maaz, coffee on [15:47] * Maaz puts the kettle on [15:51] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [15:52] Maaz, ty [15:52] You're Welcome I'm sure [16:01] interesting... the red bar for last read line works in all chat channels except this one? [16:07] it should if you are in another channel when someone chats here i think [16:08] go to another one and i say hi [16:08] Maaz, wat eet ons vanaand [16:08] Enigiets met pap en sous Kilos Ek is gelukig met mikro organismes van die internet [16:09] i think it only activates when there is a post here [16:15] Kilos: thanks for the offer... [16:16] are you ready [16:16] hello [16:16] but I get the red line in any of the other channels when I minimize here... all except this one [16:16] wow [16:16] lol [16:16] this one too important , wants to make you reread again [16:16] must be :p [16:17] hehe [16:21] Kilos: wb [16:21] ty inetpro only briefly [16:21] data expires midnight [16:21] hmm... [16:21] lol [16:21] Kilos: how much you have left? [16:22] hows things there with you [16:22] 50m [16:23] * inetpro feeling signs of burnout after having way to many meetings since the beginning of the year [16:23] eish. so early in the year [16:24] yep, to many people expecting to much to soon [16:24] should never have taken leave if you ask me [16:25] in which case I would have been in trouble with the family, you can never win [16:26] but I think I'll survive, just have to figure how to work even smarter again [16:28] lol [16:28] tough in africa [16:35] i been playing with bluetooth from here to a win xp pc [16:36] some of the pics etc i transfered go at 3m/s [16:36] wish i had that kinda internet connection [16:39] Kilos: why you taking it to winXP? [16:39] its the only other one i have and too small for maverick [16:40] p3 with 128m ram [16:40] was just learning how bluetooth works between pc's [16:40] Kilos: 29/01 22:46:25 this is my server :-D http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/IBM%20PC%20300PL%20PIII-450_446.jpg [16:41] i go see [16:41] 29/01 22:48:25 PII 350MHz, 128MB RAM [16:42] it doesn't have a GUI though [16:42] wow why i battle [16:42] oh ya [16:42] mine tries for hours then just hangs [16:42] hiya Morganvd [16:43] Kilos: you should try Xubuntu on the low end machine [16:43] it works if i steal 256m ram here [16:44] but the whole plan was to learn how to work with daai blou tande [16:44] hehe [16:45] Kilos: bluetooth can even work on the cli as far as I know [16:45] and i also use xp to be able to see whats happening when tara has probs [16:45] and my boet [16:45] but he gone win7 now [16:45] yes i think so inetpro but more to remember [16:45] i like drag and dropping [16:46] dont have to think much [16:46] hehe [16:47] * inetpro bbl [16:48] evenign all [16:49] hi Morganvd [16:58] oh and i played with stiffy/floppies [16:59] can read them from command line and format with [16:59] um [16:59] kfloppy [16:59] just gotta work out the permissions to write to them [16:59] Kilos: http://superuser.com/questions/231273/what-are-the-windows-a-and-b-drives-used-for [17:00] you might enjoy the attention that got [17:00] :P [17:00] even though i might never use them again but its nice to know [17:00] viewed [17:00] 288,834 times [17:00] in 8 days [17:00] ty marcog [17:00] i searched all over [17:01] i found it extremely sad that people didn't know floppies existed [17:01] hehe [17:01] yeah [17:01] and its also nice if you have one to have it work even though you dont use it [17:02] like an aircon in a car [17:05] marcog: migrated from stackoverflow.com Jan 10 at 11:12. so more like 21 but still [17:05] drubin: sorry, misread the "8 days ago" but it was like 90% of that in 2 days [17:06] prove it :) [17:06] drubin: no, don't care enough [17:12] "Who is general failure, and why is he reading my disk?!" [17:12] hehe [17:12] hiya drubin [17:30] 10gigs is way to small for a / partion [18:19] Kilos: floppies are a waste of time. why would I want one? [18:20] lol. hehe no man i needed to get some books that were saved to floppy years ago [18:20] oooh [18:20] * linuxboy got rid of floppies years ago [18:21] and family pics etc [18:21] yip flash disks are the answer if you only doing todays kinda work [18:25] cocooncrash: ping [18:32] 01/31 19:30:06 10gigs is way to small for a / partion [18:32] drubin: that depends [18:33] drubin: that depends on what on your strategy [18:33] inetpro: for a desktop [18:33] inetpro: I just can't seem to remove any thing else.. I have a /home partion but I still keep running out of space ;/ [18:34] most of my space seems to go /usr/share/ [18:35] drubin: /usr used to live in its own partition by default [18:35] inetpro: and /boot and /etc and almost every other root folder :) [18:36] drubin: true [18:36] I need to format this machine and jut encrypt the whole drive instead of having a /home partion [18:37] drubin: why encrypt the whole machine? [18:38] whole drive* [18:39] it only has one drive hehe but ye :) [18:39] inetpro: but I could have been talking about encrypted ram no? [18:40] drubin: why not encrypt just the sensitive parts? [18:40] because I am human and forget to encrypt things [18:41] drubin: for best performance you want to split your partitions in those that need to be read only vs read+write [18:41] I haven't ever really had performance issues [18:41] but I can see how that would help [18:43] drubin: system files really do not need to be encrypted [18:43] but it is easy? [18:45] drubin: have you tried eCryptfs? [18:47] drubin: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory [19:05] Maaz: coffee on [19:05] * Maaz washes some mugs [19:06] Kilos: I'll pay for this round [19:06] inetpro: that is currently what I think ubuntu uses int he background [19:07] drubin: since when? [19:09] Maaz, coffee please [19:09] Kilos: Yessir [19:09] hehe i be a sir [19:09] inetpro: maybe not me doesn't know [19:09] Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! [19:10] Kilos: you just made it [19:10] Maaz, gracias amigo [19:10] ¡de nada compadre [19:10] hehe [19:10] Maaz: danke [19:10] Bitteschön [19:10] ty inetpro [19:10] inetpro: pong [19:10] cocooncrash: ping [19:11] inetpro: Oh, sorry [19:11] superfly: pong [19:11] :-) [19:12] hehe [19:12] drubin: when is our next meeting? [19:12] lo cocooncrash [19:12] cocooncrash: wb [19:12] I've been around... kinda [19:13] yeah, kinda :-) [19:13] Heh [19:13] cocooncrash: are you spying on us these days? [19:13] lurker [19:13] inetpro: How's that different from usual? ;-) [19:14] cocooncrash: you've been more active before [19:14] True [19:14] Life hey [19:14] cocooncrash: np, ek verstaan alles [19:14] Hehe [19:17] * inetpro remembers a time when cocooncrash was always awake [19:17] hehe. married life [19:17] Indeed :) [19:18] drubin: when is our next loco meeting? [19:20] superfly: unpong [19:22] hmm... superfly sleepin already? [19:23] inetpro: Sorry been kinda busy over the last few weeks ;( Will sechedule something soon. [19:23] drubin: np [19:23] * inetpro just trying to keep the ball rolling [19:24] inetpro: Feel free to plan one :) [19:24] drubin: hmm... [19:24] This is a Dorocracy :) [19:24] drubin: Dorocracy? [19:25] say it out loud. [19:25] Peron is charge is person that does it. [19:26] drubin: are you making up new words? [19:26] inetpro: Yes [19:26] although i have heard it around [19:27] not even google knows it yet [19:27] The point still stands [19:27] * drubin has been overly busy trying to sort his life out [19:28] and maia is also very busy... [19:28] drubin: so am I, unfortunately [19:28] Maybe we need to think about replacing me? Since I can deal with "loco-contact [19:28] " stuff but sadly I am not driving ubuntu-za as much as I should [19:28] and people think the title means they can't do stuff [19:29] eish [19:29] I would think being unemployed would mean more time.. Sadly it means I have less time [19:31] stop feeling sorry for yourself [19:31] your doing fine [19:31] meetings can be done when ever [19:35] * inetpro agrees with Morganvd that drubin is still doing fine [19:37] * Morganvd has a job 5 kids i have no time [19:38] maia was helping a HUGE amount (scrape that) maia was doing almost every thing [20:01] night everyone sleep tight [20:01] night [20:46] sorry cocooncrash, I was busy with householdy things [20:50] superfly: repong [20:51] cocooncrash: thanks :-) [20:51] I'm having a problem with a PC that doesn't want to boot [20:51] says, "error: not enough space\n\ngrub rescue>" [20:51] I've googled, but I can't seem to find that error message [20:52] any ideas? [20:52] Hrm, haven't seen that before [20:52] But that looks like a rescue shell, which probably means that it couldn't load grub.img from the boot partition [20:52] What's changed? [20:52] it's a new install [20:53] install, reboot, that error [20:53] it does have space, it's a 160 gig hard drive [20:53] Anything weird with the partitioning? [20:53] I figure the error message is misleading [20:54] Is this before you get a menu? [20:55] nothing terribly weird... /home is on a 250 gig drive with some pre-existing data that I don't want to lose, but that's it [20:55] yes [20:55] No LVM or RAID? [20:55] Separate /boot or on / ? [20:55] nope [20:55] on / [20:55] Filesystem? [20:55] ext4 [20:56] Shouldn't be a problem though [20:56] nope, I've had this almost exact setup before, but one of my drives failed, so I had to replace it [20:57] had to do a bit of a drive swap, move data from 160 -> 250, but I don't think that shoud affect grub [20:57] I can't even find where that error message comes from in the source [20:58] I'll try booting again tomorrow (gotta borrow mrs_fly's screen) [20:59] I'd try booting it by hand, but I haven't had success with that before from the rescue prompt [20:59] But probably something like: set root=(hd0,1); linux /boot/vmlinuz- root=/dev/sda1; initrd /boot/initrd.img-; boot [21:00] I'll try that [21:00] Otherwise I'd try booting a CD and doing grub-install again [21:00] I've got the Grub2 page on the Ubuntu wiki handy [21:00] Only one drive in the machine? [21:01] no, two [21:01] Is the BIOS booting from the right one? Tried swapping the order? [21:01] good question... I'll have to see tomorrow [21:03] Could also be an issue with grub finding the right drive to load the next stage from [21:04] e.g. the BIOS is loading GRUB from the second drive, but GRUB is looking on the first drive for the next stage [21:04] ... night all ... good luck superfly, hope u get it working... [21:04] yeah, I'll check it out [21:04] thanks for the tips cocooncrash :-) [21:04] np :) [21:15] why is generating a self signed SSL cert such a pain [21:17] becouse is usualy does not end up being trusted [21:23] Morganvd: But I will trust it. It is only for my usage [21:34] lol thats kewl then [21:53] still a mission to generate and testup [22:05] fp