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TrickyJHi friends :)04:51
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ralsinagood morning everyone12:27
duanedesign'lo all12:34
duanedesignhello ralsina12:34
ralsinahello duanedesign12:34
duanedesignhello ralsina . How did your User Day session go?12:35
ralsinaduanedesign: ok-ish :-)12:35
duanedesignralsina: that is good-ish12:36
ralsinaduanedesign: I m clueless about pacing a IRC session. Will proabbly do better next time.12:36
duanedesignralsina: sounds similar to the issues I had my first time12:36
duanedesigni really wanted to make it. :\12:36
duanedesignbut things have been busy here12:37
duanedesigntrying to find work has consumed alot of my time12:37
ralsinaduanedesign: the log is out there somewhere :-)12:37
ralsinaEveryone was a bit bored because the guy before me forgot about it and was a no show12:39
duanedesignahh, I heard about that12:42
duanedesignralsina: well it is awesome you did a session. Those sessions are really great and the people who organize it work realy hard.12:43
duanedesignas do the people who give the sessions :)12:43
ralsinaduanedesign: it was fun. I will volunteer for the spanish ones next time12:43
duanedesignawesome! my good friend pablo helped start the spanish sessions. I am a big fan of doing that stuff in as many languages as possible12:44
duanedesignralsina: if i may ask, roughly where abouts are you?12:45
ralsinaSan Isidro, which is about 15km outside Buenos Aires, Argentina12:45
duanedesignralsina: awesome.12:45
ralsinaWell, it's a nice place to live :-)12:46
duanedesignI know a lot of people from Uruguay, Brazil, Argentina, and paraguay12:47
duanedesignwell, alot might be an exageration :P12:48
duanedesignmy good friend pablo lives in Montevideo12:48
ralsinaduanedesign: well, this channel is full of argentinians :-)12:51
duanedesignit is12:52
alecuhello!13:16
nessitaalecu: I'm still 'in the middle' of your review, but I can't complete it since my syncdaemon will not complete commands (already filled bug #710645)13:17
ubot4nessita: Bug 710645 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/710645 is private13:17
alecunessita, weird!13:17
nessitaalecu: yeah, all weekend...13:17
nessitaI should try today13:17
alecunessita, for those cases I created a different account in my ubuntu, with a different u1 account too.13:18
nessitaright, makes sense13:18
nessitaI should boot a VM13:18
alecunessita, or even create another account in your standard ubuntu, no VMs needed.13:22
nessitaalecu: that won't work, syncdaemon fails with SYS_ROOT_MISTMATCH13:23
alecunessita, no: I mean another "ubuntu" account. "adduser nessita2"13:23
nessitaah13:24
alecunessita, and have that user connect to a different u1 account, so syncdaemon is reasonably fast.13:24
nessitaright13:24
nessitaalecu: approved. I will field test it later13:34
alecunessita, great! thanks.13:34
alecuhi ubot4, can I have more info on bug #702055?13:54
ubot4Launchpad bug 702055 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Syncdaemon needs to send a notification when a new UDF is available for subscription (affects: 1) (heat: 230)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70205513:54
alecuthanks!13:54
alecuCardinalFang, dobey, mandel, nessita, ralsina, thisfred, vds: standup in 2'13:58
ralsinaack13:58
nessitaack13:59
vdsack13:59
thisfredayeaye13:59
CardinalFangbah!13:59
* ralsina should stop taking phone calls 10 minutes before standup13:59
alecume14:00
nessitame14:00
ralsiname14:00
vdsme14:00
mandelme14:00
nessitaCardinalFang, thisfred, dobey?14:02
CardinalFangme14:02
thisfredme14:02
nessitaalecu: go!14:02
alecuDONE: worked on branch to limit notification bubbles (bug #702128), got tangled, wrote spec for less annoying bubbles14:02
alecuTODO: finish branch for bubbles, work on branch to show new folders events in messaging menu (bug #702075 and bug #702144)14:02
alecuBLOCKED: u1trial breaks for vds on lucid while running "make check" on https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/ubuntuone-client/disable-zg-on-lucid/+merge/4754914:02
alecuLOVE: cherry tomatoes14:02
ubot4Launchpad bug 702128 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Syncdaemon needs to send aggregated notifications about completed operations (affects: 1) (heat: 230)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70212814:03
alecuHATE: jalapeños14:03
alecuNEXT: nessita14:03
ubot4Launchpad bug 702075 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Syncdaemon needs to add an entry to the messaging menu when a new UDF is available for subscription (affects: 1) (heat: 230)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70207514:03
ubot4Launchpad bug 702144 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Syncdaemon needs to add an entry to the messaging menu when a new share offer comes in (affects: 1) (heat: 230)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70214414:03
nessitaDONE: more work on shares-subscription. The branch is getting complicated since there are several situations to handle: RO/RW share with existent dir on disk, without disk, etc.14:03
nessitaTODO: Manually test the (potentially ready) shares-subscription branch. Use cases: new {RO,RW} share with existent dir, new {RO,RW} with default share_autosubscribe set to False, same with autosubscribe set to True.14:03
nessitaIf working, propose for merge.14:03
nessitaBLOCKED: nopes14:03
nessitaLOVE: weekends14:03
nessitaNEXT: ralsina14:03
ralsinaDONE: reviews, did my canonicaladmin work, researched for sprint, read code.14:03
ralsinaTODO: prepare UbuntuDays thing, reviews, management stuff, someday actual coding ;-)14:03
ralsinaBLOCKED: no14:03
ralsinaLOVE: Rain14:03
ralsinaHATES: Broken hands14:03
ralsinavds!14:03
vdsDONE: fifth and sixth branch for #701029 landed seventh on it's14:03
vdsTODO: continuing with the views14:03
vdsBLOCKED:nope14:03
vdsmandel: prego14:03
mandelDONE: Broke my right hand.14:03
mandelTODO: go to doctor.14:03
mandelBLOCKED: yes, i cannot type. Have too see how long do i have to rest for.14:03
mandelCardinalFang: please14:03
CardinalFangDONE: some progress on couchdb/desktopcouch replication.14:03
CardinalFangTODO: more testing.  Get logs from datacenter to investigate a problem.  Release new desktopcouch?14:03
CardinalFangBLOCKED: datacenter logs.14:03
CardinalFangLOVE: rugby.14:03
CardinalFangthisfred, go14:03
thisfredDONE: *finally* proposed messaging branch14:03
thisfredTODO:  make notifications updateable | make New UDF msgs have a 'count' instead of 'time' property | hook up messaging to send actual messages | talk to Ted Gould to see if a new libindicate is forthcoming14:03
thisfredBLOCKED: no14:03
thisfredLOVED: http://tinysong.com/fQod14:03
ralsinaIn my report move the Ubuntu User Day to DONE ;-)14:03
nessitaralsina: TODO: prepare UbuntuDays thing ???14:04
nessitaah!14:04
* ralsina recycles notes14:04
nessitaCardinalFang: if you're block on your current task, can you please fix and keep https://code.launchpad.net/~cmiller/desktopcouch/service-must-not-call-self-over-dbus/+merge/47262  moving forward?14:04
nessitamandel: bummer!!!14:05
nessitamandel: do you have a cast?14:05
CardinalFangHe does.14:05
* CardinalFang types faster.14:05
nessitahehhe14:05
* CardinalFang gets photo.14:05
ralsinaCould we do a quick mumble after the standup?14:05
mandelCardinalFang: indeed hehe14:06
ralsinaWe need to organize around mandel's problem14:06
mandelthe mental one or the one with the hand ?14:06
ralsinamandel: cause and effect, man!14:06
ralsina;-)14:06
nessitaralsina: sure, now?14:07
ralsinaOTOH, it makes more sense to do it tomorrow when we know how long he needs the cast14:07
ralsinaSo no, forget about mumble14:07
dobeyhi14:07
ralsinahi dobey14:07
thisfredmandel: fall off a chair? or rugby?14:07
mandelthisfred: rugby :(14:08
thisfredwell, ouch either way, hope it gets better soon14:08
dobeyλ DONE: almost finished bug 67301214:08
dobeyλ TODO: 3rd party apis?, evaluate SRUs for maverick, external contacts integration with picker14:08
dobeyλ BLCK: None.14:08
ubot4Launchpad bug 673012 in desktopcouch (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Async monitoring of _changes (affects: 1) (heat: 42)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67301214:08
mandelthere you have the xray http://yfrog.com/h0bvebxdj14:09
ralsinadobey: as you may have seen in the backlog, mandel broke his right hand.14:09
CardinalFanghttp://yfrog.com/f/h0bvebxdj/14:09
ralsinadobey: he was assigned to work on shotwell this week, but he can't type.14:09
dobeyhe can type with his left hand14:09
dobey:)14:09
ralsinadobey: so... how do you feel about programming in vala for a week? ;-)14:09
nessitamandel: if your index finger totally messed up?14:09
nessitais*14:09
mandelnessita: is the bone in the hand, the one that is before the finger14:10
nessitaarg!14:10
ralsinanessita: it is, but there his finger is bent, I think :-)14:10
dobeyi don't mind vala14:10
CardinalFangMetacarpal.14:10
ralsinadobey: cool, maybe we can get started on that so we don't get too delayed.14:11
mandelthats after the doctor placed the bone back, the nitial xray was way cooler, he bone was in half14:11
ralsinaThe "good" news is that if mandel is only disabled for a week, our schedule is still more or less on track, because he canceled vacations14:11
dobeyralsina: we should get everyone one of these to "type" with: http://emotiv.com/store/hardware/epoc-bci/epoc-neuroheadset/14:11
CardinalFangnessita, see the crack in the middle of the image, next to thumb?  That's the bad one, likely.14:12
* alecu brbs14:12
ralsinadobey: we can't get decent microphones for mumble, that's a bit far fetched ATM ;-)14:12
nessitayes, is hurting me14:12
dobeyralsina: my microphone works great. it's pulseaudio or sound drivers or something that broke recently :(14:13
CardinalFangmandel, You should abandon rugby.  I'll teach you to play Go.14:13
ralsinadobey: I was thinking more about chipaca, but ... it happens :-(14:13
ralsinaCardinalFang: what, you don't just put black and white stones at random on a table? there are rules? ;-)14:14
mandelCardinalFang: well the season  is over for me, so if you have and android go game im in14:14
ralsinaok, eom then?14:14
dobeyralsina: anyway, i have been doing some stuff with vala in spare time.14:14
ralsinadobey: that is a very lucky thing for us14:15
dobeythere's probably some other work that needs to be done to build a vapi for libsyncdaemon, before we start writing vala to use it14:15
ralsinadobey, mandel: are there are any design specs or something else for shotwell?14:15
CardinalFangralsina, not many rules.  :)   (There's a fun variant where both players put only white stones down.  Part of the game is remembering whose are whose.  It's not as hard as it sounds.)14:16
ralsinaCardinalFang: I just try to make pretty pictures. Look, a dragon! ;-)14:16
* ralsina is kidding, he never played go. Was a semi-serious chess player 25 years ago, though.14:17
mandelralsina, dobey ill foward you the email i got from then, but we are at early stages of plugins for shotwell14:19
dobeymandel: that's fine, there's plenty of other work we need to do first14:20
mandeldobey: ill send the email so that you know someone to talk with about it14:21
dobeyok14:25
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* dobey reads up on generating .vapi16:14
thisfredalecu: re: updating existing notification bubbles, it's possible, but there16:20
thisfredseems to be no way to see if the bubble has been closed already16:20
thisfredand if it has, updating it doesn't show anything, of course16:20
thisfredThere must be a way to do that though16:20
alecuthisfred, I don't mind that if it does not show anything when it was already closed16:21
alecuthisfred, since we want the notifications to be up for a little while then close.16:22
alecu(even if more files are found... otherwise they may remain on screen forever)16:23
thisfredalecu: ok, so I'll make it updateable, if it's still there16:23
alecucool16:23
thisfredalecu: also: who do I talk to to get my approved branch merged? My new branch will depend on parts of it16:25
joshuahooveralecu: are you working on u1 unity integration?16:26
alecujoshuahoover, yes: thisfred and me are working on it.16:26
alecuthisfred, oh, it seems that branch has been on the approved state since last friday... let's ask dobey to see if tarmac is acting up.16:27
joshuahooveralecu: cool...did you guys have any issues with api's in regards to the launcher item? dbarth mentioned the api's for that landed last week so i wanted to make sure we weren't held up by the lack of api's16:27
alecudobey, can you please take a look at this branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/dammit-janet/+merge/4784716:27
thisfredjoshuahoover: oh have they? Neil told me he'd give us a heads up when they did. I'm pretty sure said they weren't gonna make alpha 2. Maybe different APIs then?16:28
alecujoshuahoover, yes, we are depending on an api for showing a progressbar and an emblem on the launcher icons...16:28
joshuahooverthisfred: possibly...i'd check in with him because feature freeze is in about 2.5 weeks16:29
thisfredjoshuahoover: ok, will do, but last I heard was they weren't going to happen16:29
thisfredor at least probably not in time for us to use them16:30
joshuahooverthisfred: hmmm...ok16:30
dobeyalecu, thisfred: commit message.16:31
alecudobey, right, thanks!16:31
thisfreddobey: DOH!16:31
thisfreddobey: done16:32
dobeyshould land in ~15 min then.16:34
dobeyi am going to get some lunch now though. bbiab :)16:35
ralsinaalecu: is the badge API on the launcher for unity done?16:37
ralsinaI am not even sure it's called the badge16:37
thisfredralsina: so, as far as I know, no, but joshuahoover has heard conflicting info, so we're gonna asl16:39
thisfredask16:39
ralsinathisfred: I think the API is there but it does nothing16:42
* ralsina is on mumble learning about these things :-)16:42
thisfredoh ok :)16:42
ralsinaRemember soft freeze for alpha 2 is tomorrow, so if we need to get anything in...16:43
alecuralsina, alpha 2 is tomorrow, but alpha 3 is 2 weeks from now, right?16:45
alecuralsina, I don't think we'll be squeezing anything more on alpha216:45
ralsinaalecu: well, let's check the schedule ;-)16:45
alecuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule16:45
ralsinaI hope we don't, but just in case16:45
ralsinaIf I understand that right, the next freeze is Feb 24th16:46
ralsinaBut that'sa  very confusing timeline16:47
alecuralsina, sorry: my irc client dies every time I accidentally hit the "get list of channels" shortcut :P16:51
ralsinause quassel! I'll give you a free core in my server :-)16:52
alecuit dies a slow death while trying to fetch the whole list.16:52
alecu:-)16:52
alecuralsina, what vps are you using?16:52
ralsinaalecu: burst.net16:52
ralsinaalecu: U$S4.56 a month and I have a nice VPN over it too16:52
alecuralsina, my vps does not like neither irc nor proxies. They've warned me in the past about using them.16:52
alecuralsina, nice! I'll give it a try.16:52
ralsinaalecu: my other VPS even blocks por 666*16:53
ralsinaBut burst doesn't seem to care much. I assume it's as long as you don't kill the server with something like a file warez bot16:53
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ralsinaI've got one "free" hour. Who has a review for me?17:07
SpamapSnessita: hey, did you ever get those logs you sent to yourself from my laptop?17:09
nessitaSpamapS: I did! I'm passing then to facundobatista, who was on vacations until today :-)17:12
nessitaSpamapS: but he's full of tasks on his first day17:12
nessitabrb, luchtime!17:12
SpamapSI bet :)17:14
SpamapSnessita: good to know... and thanks again for looking17:15
nessitaSpamapS: anytime!17:35
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dobeythisfred: you need to fix a conflict in your branch18:29
thisfreddobey: I did, just waiting for lp to catch up18:30
thisfreddobey:  which it has done, re-approved18:31
dobeyah18:31
* alecu needs some lunch19:02
dobeyhrmm, i hope generating the .vapi for libsyncdaemon will be easy19:03
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dobeynessita: ping. why is bug 709200 a task on ubuntuone-client also?19:18
ubot4Launchpad bug 709200 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "Service quits even if ref count is not zero (affects: 1) (heat: 1536)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70920019:18
nessitadobey: I need to make the credentials service on u1client to quit properly. Is Low since right now only syncdaemon  uses that service, and access it only once, so the bug is not affecting it19:19
dobeyok19:21
dobeyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/remove-preferences/+merge/4803619:29
dobeynessita: ^^ look at all that pretty red :)19:29
nessitadobey: approved19:30
vadi2Where would I report Ubuntu One URLs that just don't resolve to a file?20:28
beunovadi2, like which one?20:29
vadi2http://ubuntuone.com/p/b5l/20:29
beunovadi2, is this file yours?20:29
vadi2no, someone else'20:30
beunovadi2, and your sure they haven't stopped publishing it?20:30
vadi2Yeah... they just put it up today20:31
vadi2Oh, 'Proxy ErrorThe proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. The proxy server could not handle the request GET /p/b5l/.Reason: Error reading from remote server' came through now20:31
beunovadi2, yeah, reported this to the sysadmin20:32
vadi2thank you20:32
beunothank *you*  :)20:32
beunovadi2, should be fixed20:35
vadi2It did just come through, yep20:35
vadi2thanks again!20:35
beunonp20:35
dobeyralsina: hey20:43
dobeyralsina: care to do an easy review? :)20:43
joshuahoovernessita: ping21:22
nessitajoshuahoover: pong21:22
joshuahoovernessita: do you know what happens when a user goes to sign up for u1 but doesn't complete the process because they never got their confirmation code via email? is suggesting they use the forgot password link the right suggestion?21:23
nessitajoshuahoover: depending on what version of ussoc they are running. On latest version in maverick, they should try to authenticate again (using preferences, u1sdtool, etc)21:24
nessitabut this time not choosing 'register' but 'I already have an account'21:24
nessitawhen logging in, ussoc will detect that the user is not validated and will ask for the verification code21:25
joshuahoovernessita: ok, thanks!21:25
nessitajoshuahoover: one importnat note: the user needs to look for his verification code from the first time he registered21:25
nessitathat means, we don't issue a new email21:25
nessitajoshuahoover: makes sense?21:25
joshuahoovernessita: yep :)21:26
nessitajoshuahoover: if the user can't find the email, then he should activate his account from the web (login.ubuntu.com)21:26
nessitaand then login thru ussoc as usual21:26
joshuahoovernessita: so if he logged in via the web, it will prompt for the code?21:26
nessitanopes, if he sets the preferred email, that will validate the account21:26
dobeylater all22:57

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