| afiestas__ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/702706 | 00:23 |
|---|---|---|
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 702706 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] QtGstreamer should be packaged" [Wishlist,Fix released] | 00:23 |
| afiestas__ | but apt-cache search gstreamer | grep -i qt returns 0 :p | 00:23 |
| afiestas__ | (well a telepathy stuff which is not QtGst) | 00:23 |
| JontheEchidna | It's in new queue at the moment: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+queue | 00:33 |
| afiestas__ | oh :p | 00:34 |
| JontheEchidna | QtGstreamer is infinitely nicer to use than raw GStreamer | 00:38 |
| DarkwingDuck | Whoot my VB works again. | 00:53 |
| DarkwingDuck | rather VM | 00:53 |
| JontheEchidna | wtf, I have a video paused in dragon player and I keep getting these vlc popups | 02:31 |
| JontheEchidna | of random pictures | 02:32 |
| JontheEchidna | like a grilled cheese sandwhich and a bottle of milk | 02:32 |
| nigelb | lol | 02:36 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, they're pictures on my hdd | 02:43 |
| afiestas__ | JontheEchidna: ping | 03:26 |
| JontheEchidna | afiestas__: pong | 03:27 |
| afiestas__ | JontheEchidna: with all this "noise" about "App Stores" I'm wondering what is the current status of muon/packagekit/KPackageKit etc | 03:28 |
| afiestas__ | does muon work (or could work) with packagekit? | 03:28 |
| afiestas__ | do you have any plans to join forces with KPackageKit ? | 03:28 |
| JontheEchidna | nope | 03:28 |
| JontheEchidna | I personally believe that PackageKit is flawed and that a least common denominator solution can't compare to a fully-integrated solution | 03:31 |
| jjesse | hrmm the installer is stopping for me under the daily | 03:32 |
| afiestas__ | JontheEchidna: oks | 03:34 |
| JontheEchidna | the gross inadequancy of PK back a year ago was what drove me to start the whole Muon thing. I didn't expect PK to at least become somewhat adequate, but I still believe that the tight apt integration Muon has can deliver a better experience | 03:34 |
| jjesse | hrmm ok don't know if anyone is around but after putting in my username and password ubiquity stops and sends me back to the desktop on today's daily | 03:40 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: I found a god daily | 03:49 |
| DarkwingDuck | god/good | 03:50 |
| jjesse | hrmm i haven't :( | 03:50 |
| jjesse | but now it is time for bed | 03:50 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: I'll upload it and email it to you | 03:50 |
| jjesse | ok | 03:50 |
| DarkwingDuck | jjesse: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20110131.2/ | 03:51 |
| DarkwingDuck | the i386 ISO is good for install | 03:51 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| === markey_ is now known as markey | ||
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you are incredibly hot | 07:54 |
| apachelogger | or maybe 114 degrees f are not that hot, though then the red-ness indicator on the plasmoid is wrongish | 07:54 |
| ulysses | UDS in Corinthia Grand Hotel Royal, Budapest, 9-13 May 2011 | 07:55 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you are not around by any chance? | 08:23 |
| apachelogger | ulysses: uhhh | 08:23 |
| apachelogger | ehhh | 08:23 |
| apachelogger | ahhhh | 08:23 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: there, I cannot attend linuxtag either | 08:23 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 08:23 |
| ulysses | whut? | 08:23 |
| apachelogger | scary | 08:23 |
| apachelogger | ulysses: that is the same week linuxtag in berlin is :D | 08:23 |
| ulysses | oh | 08:23 |
| * apachelogger withdraws his 3 papers | 08:23 | |
| jussi | Hrm, How do I install/use the git/svn plugins in 4.6? | 08:36 |
| apachelogger | jussi: you install kdesdk-dolphin-plugins and actiavte them in the dolphinzzz | 08:42 |
| jussi | kdesdk-dolphin-plugins is already the newest version | 08:43 |
| jussi | oh...found it! :D | 08:44 |
| apachelogger | ulysses: do you happen to know where one can apply for sponsorship yet? | 08:46 |
| * apachelogger has ever so great plans | 08:46 | |
| ulysses | apachelogger: no, I just know this page: https://launchpad.net/sprints/uds-o | 08:46 |
| apachelogger | ok | 08:48 |
| apachelogger | that is the stranges t thing evar | 08:48 |
| apachelogger | http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot144.png | 08:49 |
| apachelogger | that is the funniest thing evar | 08:49 |
| ulysses | four people of the attendees are hungarian now:> | 08:50 |
| apachelogger | that is not the funny bit :P | 08:50 |
| * apachelogger recons there are hungarians in hungary | 08:51 | |
| * apachelogger joins the fun | 08:51 | |
| valorie | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/sponsorship/ | 09:45 |
| valorie | page is definitely up | 09:45 |
| valorie | whether or not they want us to use it | 09:45 |
| apachelogger | when it is up you gotta use it ^^ | 09:48 |
| === hunger_ is now known as hunger | ||
| valorie | would be funny if the first 10 applicants were all KOO buntu | 09:51 |
| valorie | can't decide if I should apply or not | 09:52 |
| valorie | would be soooo fun though | 09:52 |
| apachelogger | do it | 09:52 |
| ulysses | hm, I should change the name in the form, but I can't | 09:55 |
| nigelb | I wonder if valorie ever sleeps :O | 09:56 |
| valorie | in maybe a half hour I will | 10:00 |
| nigelb | heh | 10:00 |
| valorie | but night is when I can get some work done | 10:00 |
| valorie | no interruptions | 10:00 |
| nigelb | I agree with that | 10:00 |
| nigelb | same here | 10:00 |
| valorie | otoh, I have my music on random, and just got Britney: Baby One More Time | 10:02 |
| valorie | lol | 10:02 |
| valorie | one of the most common earworms evar | 10:02 |
| ulysses | what does „Would you be willing to participate as member of the crew?” mean? | 10:05 |
| valorie | ulysses: one day during uds, you run around replacing the signs for the various sessions | 10:07 |
| valorie | it's fun, and you get a shirt | 10:08 |
| ulysses | oh, then I answer yes | 10:08 |
| valorie | you do it with a partner | 10:08 |
| valorie | you do have to leave sessions a few minutes early, which can suck a bit | 10:08 |
| valorie | but you and your partner work it out | 10:08 |
| valorie | I partnered with Vish | 10:09 |
| ulysses | I could be the first at the bar for a beer then:P | 10:09 |
| valorie | well, this is during the day | 10:09 |
| valorie | hopefully that's *after* | 10:09 |
| valorie | lol | 10:09 |
| valorie | ok, nothing ventured, nothing gained -- applied | 10:16 |
| ulysses | what have to I write as further information? Shall I write that I'm a student, so I can't go without support, or something better? | 10:17 |
| nigelb | wait, sponsorship is open? | 10:18 |
| nigelb | did someone actually announce UDS? | 10:18 |
| ulysses | http://summit.ubuntu.com/ | 10:18 |
| nigelb | generally jorge or jono blogs about it first | 10:18 |
| valorie | ulysses: last time I just applied more on a dare than anything else | 10:19 |
| valorie | and was accepted late | 10:19 |
| nigelb | hehe | 10:19 |
| nigelb | I don't want to remember last time :/ | 10:19 |
| valorie | are you coming this time, nigelb? | 10:19 |
| valorie | WE MISSED YOU | 10:19 |
| nigelb | valorie: I don't know. Far too many variables this time around. | 10:19 |
| valorie | lots of variables for me too, but I figured -- why not ask | 10:20 |
| valorie | I can always say no | 10:20 |
| valorie | true to my word, off to bed.... | 10:41 |
| c2tarun | yofel: hi, I am here. I was going through ur page, so there are three ways in which i can contribute into kubuntu dev? | 10:46 |
| * apachelogger would think there are more | 10:52 | |
| yofel | c2tarun: welcome, those aren't the only ways, and packaging and being a ninja go hand in hand | 10:53 |
| c2tarun | yofel: thanks :) what are the other ways? | 10:53 |
| yofel | apachelogger: meet c2tarun, found him in #kubuntu desperately wanting to become a ninja ;) | 10:53 |
| c2tarun | hi apachelogger :) | 10:53 |
| apachelogger | http://listverse.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/ninja.jpg-tm.jpg | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | I can see why | 10:54 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: ahoy ahoy | 10:54 |
| yofel | hehe | 10:54 |
| c2tarun | what happend? :/ | 10:54 |
| c2tarun | not exactly coz of that pic :) but ya somehow it sounds cool :P | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_tNRAa-BYU7M/Ru7zpQTKSYI/AAAAAAAAADw/nz9gMP7T3zU/s1600/ninja_tux.jpg | 10:55 |
| apachelogger | that one is more like | 10:55 |
| c2tarun | hmm.... :/ | 10:56 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: c2tarun shall be your first padawan | 10:56 |
| c2tarun | sure :) just tell me what is a padawan? | 10:58 |
| c2tarun | apart from aprentice | 10:58 |
| tsimpson | just that | 10:58 |
| c2tarun | ok :) | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | the stage before becoming minion, which is the stage before becoming developer of somesort | 10:58 |
| apachelogger | one becomes a ninja somewhere between minion and developer | 10:59 |
| c2tarun | how can i start? | 11:00 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: that is for Quintasan to decide, but I suppose you could just read a bit through the packaging guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete until he arrives | 11:01 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: I already read this page. few months back, on this page all is written use of some tools for packaging, I don't actually understood any concept of packaging :( (I am not blaming anyone, I am just saying) | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deb_(file_format) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dpkg | 11:04 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: ok, this page is good :) i'll read it. by the way is there really anything known as padawan in kubuntu-devel? | 11:05 |
| apachelogger | no, george lucas would probably sue us ^^ | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | officially there is contributor and developer | 11:06 |
| c2tarun | what do contributors do? | 11:07 |
| yofel | c2tarun: there's also http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ which you should know and keep as a reference (yo don't need to understand everything at once) - and also http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ as another introduction guide | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: regular patch contribution etc. etc. | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | contributors do generally not have upload rights but developers do | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | which is really the only difference | 11:08 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: one more thing, while reading i got this term a lot Patching, Can u please explain me a bit? | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_(computing) | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | also the appropriate linux app: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patch_(Unix) | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: basically a patch is just a text file representing the difference between one file and another | 11:09 |
| apachelogger | (or a bunch of files for that matter) | 11:09 |
| === wgrant_ is now known as wgrant | ||
| c2tarun | like a .diff file? | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | yes | 11:10 |
| apachelogger | patch is just the more general term | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | as a patch can also be a binary executable that manipulates another binary executable | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/560894/ | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | say that is a diff and a patch | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | it is a diff because,. well, because it is one ;) | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | and a patch because it fixes something | 11:11 |
| c2tarun | ok. | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | though generally those two words are used as synonyms | 11:12 |
| c2tarun | so after reading the documentations, where can i start? | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: find something that annoys you and do something about it ;) | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: or look for cool new software that might need packaging | 11:13 |
| apachelogger | kde-apps.org or qt-apps.org are generally good places to look for that sort of thing | 11:13 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: ya where can i look for those softwares that might need packaging? | 11:13 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: sorry to ask this, but where in kde-apps.org? | 11:15 |
| apachelogger | everywhere | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | mian page mainly | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: bangarang has a new version out | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | I do not think we have that yet | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | !info bangarang natty | 11:18 |
| ubottu | bangarang (source: bangarang): Multimedia player with a lightweight interface for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 319 kB, installed size 1508 kB | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Bangarang?content=113305 | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | there, 2.0 is new and we have 1.0.1 | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | you could update that bugger | 11:18 |
| c2tarun | sorry, but what do u mean by we have? | 11:19 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: ^^ | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: the ubuntu archive | 11:21 |
| apachelogger | contains version 1.0.1 of bangarang | 11:21 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: I think u told that only developers can access the archive. And exactly how to do that? | 11:22 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: I just checked we don't have 2.0 there | 11:22 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: you update the package, create a debdiff, then either report a bug report and subscribe sponsors or find someone in here to sponsor the upload | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | !sponsoring | 11:28 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about sponsoring | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | hm | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | !sponsor | 11:28 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about sponsor | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | ubottu: you are useless my friend | 11:28 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | !sponsorship | 11:29 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about sponsorship | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | ah | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | !! | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | ubottu: silly beast | 11:29 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about silly beast | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | yes you are | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | hm | 11:30 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: hehehe... anyway leave the bot :) | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | ok, current sponsorship information is absolutely worthless to beginners | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | awesome | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: just poke Quintasan_ once you have a debdiff | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | he will guide you | 11:30 |
| c2tarun | I'll read the packaging again :) and i'll try to create a debdiff for 2.0 | 11:31 |
| c2tarun | sure i'll come back with debdiff. | 11:31 |
| apachelogger | cool | 11:35 |
| jussi | apachelogger: leave my poor little girl bot alone! | 11:48 |
| jussi | !search sponsor | 11:49 |
| ubottu | Found: | 11:49 |
| jussi | apachelogger: what shoudl that factoid say? | 11:49 |
| apachelogger | jussi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | but since that page is utterly useless... | 12:00 |
| jussi | apachelogger: write me 1 line that you want it to say... | 12:01 |
| apachelogger | jussi: If you know what distributed development is: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 12:01 |
| jussi | apachelogger: how about: If you have made a package and would like to get it uploaded to the official Ubuntu repository, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 12:02 |
| apachelogger | jussi: that is not what the page is bout | 12:03 |
| apachelogger | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Sponsorship/SponsorsQueue | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | that might actually be more useful | 12:04 |
| Riddell | Quintasan_: E: libqtglib-2.0-0: symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision on symbol _ZNK5QGlib5Value3getI7QStringEET_Pb@Base and 7 others | 12:53 |
| c2tarun | for packaging which is best, pbuilder, chroot or installing a distro using virtual box? | 13:20 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: pbuilder | 13:24 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: thanks :) | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: i mean pbuilder works out the best for me | 13:25 |
| shadeslayer | and then there's !best | 13:26 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: can u please tell me the diff b/w pbuilder and chroot? | 13:26 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: a pbuilder is a clean chroot | 13:27 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: sorry not getting, any operational difference. | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | if you create a chroot .. you might dirty it ( installing build deps etc ) | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | whereas the pbuilder is always ( mostly ) clean | 13:27 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: use a pbuilder ... its the best packaging tool | 13:28 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: but I have a problem, I dont have very fast internet connection so as to download dependencies each and every time. but I have 30GB or partition in which kubuntu is installed. | 13:28 |
| c2tarun | of partition* | 13:29 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: the build deps are cached | 13:29 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: that's good :) | 13:30 |
| c2tarun | i'll go for pbuilder then. Thanks | 13:30 |
| apachelogger | surely shadeslayer has worse intarwebs connection | 13:31 |
| shadeslayer | probably :S | 13:31 |
| apachelogger | also he has net neutrality even though I still do not know what it is | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer | ask kubotu .. he knows all | 13:32 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: :D not worse than mine, my download speed is max 50kbps :) | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: worse | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | see | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | :D :D :D | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | net neutrality has its price it would appear | 13:32 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: even slower than mine? | 13:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: did you write a blog post yet? | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 13:32 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: too busy fixoring LP + rekonq for you | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | oh, I do not care | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | I do not use either of those products anymore | 13:33 |
| apachelogger | chromium and bugzilla work very well I must say | 13:33 |
| shadeslayer | s/you/anyone who cares | 13:34 |
| shadeslayer | apparently kwebkitpart works ... i commented out stuff that was causing issues, yet it does not work -.- | 13:34 |
| * Riddell cares | 13:35 | |
| shadeslayer | see :P | 13:35 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/3885 << is supposed to work | 13:36 |
| shadeslayer | yet it doesnt | 13:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: why would that be worky? | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: because kdewebkit is now fixored | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | has all those operations | 13:47 |
| shadeslayer | and i think its the CustomOperations stuff that caused issues | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | oh, did I mention that this code was most silly :P | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: it was there because kdewebkit did not support those operations ( see the comments ) | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | yes, still the code is silly | 13:48 |
| shadeslayer | well now its gone | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 13:48 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: why does it not work? | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: no idea | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: ^^ :P | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | how does the notworkingness presents itself? | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | you know what to say :P | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: go to any bug in lp ... comment on bug ... shows up [object Object] instead of comment | 13:49 |
| shadeslayer | same thing with konqueror works | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | because konqueror is supreme | 13:50 |
| shadeslayer | konqueror + kwebkitpart that is | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: surely you are just using a wrong kdeinit lib again :P | 13:50 |
| shadeslayer | nope | 13:50 |
| apachelogger | then the issue is not fixed? | 13:50 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: in kdewebkit? | 13:51 |
| shadeslayer | its fixed in kdewebkit since it works with konqueror + webkitpart from git | 13:52 |
| shadeslayer | verified it myself | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | that is flawed reasoning | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | maybe the webkit part also works around it | 13:52 |
| shadeslayer | hmm .. dont think so ... lemme check | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/base/kwebkitpart/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/networkaccessmanager.cpp | 13:53 |
| shadeslayer | doesnt look like it | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | maybe rekonq is just broken... | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | or maybe kwebkitpart messes with things elsewhere | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | #define QL1S(x) QLatin1String(x) | 13:54 |
| apachelogger | uh lovely | 13:54 |
| shadeslayer | hehehe | 13:55 |
| * apachelogger feels like doing some java now | 13:55 | |
| shadeslayer | ROFL : https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/base/kwebkitpart/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/networkaccessmanager.cpp | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | er | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | shadeslayer@saphira /media/Data/rekonq/build ±master⚡ » sudo make java | 13:55 |
| shadeslayer | look what you made me do | 13:55 |
| apachelogger | why do you make with sudo | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | !!! | 13:58 |
| claydoh | Riddell: sorry I'm a day late, but yes I can do the announcement if you still need it | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | you are mad, a mad hatter you are!!! | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | because i dont have rekonq installed from packages | 13:58 |
| shadeslayer | and i use rekonq from git | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | also I should be messing with likelihoods and stuff | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: one installs to ones home | 13:59 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/3889/ << kio_http logs | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | except for phonon that will just refuse to be installed to $home :D :D:D | 13:59 |
| Riddell | claydoh: you're still two days early :) | 13:59 |
| claydoh | Riddell: sweet | 14:00 |
| shadeslayer | i cleared them logs before i commented | 14:00 |
| * claydoh is still eagerly awaiting his ebay purchase: a dualcore dell laptop that isn't quite so ancient, can't wait to install Kubuntu on that one :) | 14:01 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: from restomp? | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: whut? | 14:02 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: ^^ maybe that is something I can blog about :) | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: what if kubuntu does not work on it? | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: you could also blog about how cool kde is ;) | 14:02 |
| claydoh | apachelogger: it should | 14:02 |
| claydoh | it is :)( | 14:02 |
| shadeslayer | Dell + Kubuntu works out pretty well | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: is that log from restomp or from konquerr0r? | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | its from rekonq | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | via kdebugdialog | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | now where is the error there? | 14:03 |
| claydoh | shadeslayer: part of the reason I chose it | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | I do not see no error | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | i dont see any error too | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | I blame it on rekum | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | thats the problem -.- | 14:03 |
| apachelogger | kio does it all just as it should | 14:03 |
| c2tarun | need help in setting pbuilder environment :( | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: maybe it is distrubed by the first sending that sorta went kaput | 14:04 |
| apachelogger | kio_http(24502)/kio_http_debug HTTPProtocol::sendQuery: Connection broken! ( "bugs.staging.launchpad.net" ) -- intended to write 958 bytes but wrote -1 . | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | !pbuilder | 14:05 |
| ubottu | pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 14:05 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: ^ | 14:05 |
| shadeslayer | maybe something wrong here : http://paste.kde.org/3891 | 14:05 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: I was reading the same page, I have a question, like in chroot we have to login by chroot command and then our system locks into chroot env. is there anything like that in pbuilder? | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: gdb will tell | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: pbuilder login | 14:06 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: why would you want to login though? | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 14:07 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: don't know, I thought that like in chroot we have to login, in this also we must. | 14:07 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: nope | 14:07 |
| * apachelogger throws some hypotheses at shadeslayer | 14:08 | |
| shadeslayer | use pdebuild! | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | take that H_0 and feed it to rekonqw | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | muhahaha | 14:08 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: sudo pbuilder build some_new_packages.dsc | 14:08 |
| apachelogger | that will autobuild the source package of that .dsc and spew it somewhere | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | though I cant recall where it spews by default | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | probably somewhere in /var/cache/pbuilder | 14:09 |
| shadeslayer | /var/cache/pbuilder/result | 14:09 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: ok thanks :) | 14:09 |
| apachelogger | righto | 14:09 |
| * shadeslayer reads gdb man page | 14:09 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: the efficient developer makes it spew into .local/share/Trash/files btw :P | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha :P | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | the most efficient developer makes it spew into /tmp | 14:10 |
| apachelogger | nah | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | bad idea | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | whai? | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | then your system goes crashy crashy and all is gone | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | ah see ... i have my /tmp set to erase after 2 reboots | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | also maybe you are building software under NDA, then you should not have it outside your precious home at all :P | 14:11 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I have my /tmp to point to /dev/null :P | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | lol :P | 14:12 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: 'sudo pbuilder create' will create a chroot. but of which version? | 14:12 |
| apachelogger | maverick by default | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | --distribution natty will make it natty | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | or you create a .pbuilderrc in your home | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | and write DIST=natty in there | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | oh | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | and . /etc/pbuilderrc or something like that | 14:13 |
| apachelogger | oh | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | or read the wiki page | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | actually it is | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | DISTRIBUTION=natty | 14:14 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger: thanks :) | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you actually have the full thing in there? "DISTRIBUTION" | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | i just use DIST= | 14:14 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you know, I believe Quintasan_ is a bad master to c2tarun | 14:14 |
| shadeslayer | oic | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I have a full blown pbuilderrc from back in the days | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | !!! | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | like when ScottK still was young and stuff :P | 14:15 |
| shadeslayer | ahahahaha | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | and since it is so old it is filled up with precious pirate booty, most terrific | 14:15 |
| apachelogger | the pbuilderrc that is, not ScottK | 14:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: hmm ... i cant seem to work out setting a break point in rekonq/src/networkaccessmanager.cpp:createRequest | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | PBUILDERSATISFYDEPENDSCMD="/usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends-gdebi" | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | I am not even sure what it does | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | surely something buggy | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | otherwise I would remember | 14:16 |
| shadeslayer | (gdb) break networkaccessmanager:createRequest No source file named networkaccessmanager. Make breakpoint pending on future shared library load? (y or [n]) | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | well | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | as it says | 14:16 |
| Riddell | waa, kdebindings doesn't compile on arm if I remove the qreal_double stuff, it just fails further on :( | 14:16 |
| apachelogger | there is no such source file :P | 14:16 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: same thing with networkaccessmanager.cpp | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | you can also define the break by class btw | 14:17 |
| * apachelogger finds that more comfortable | 14:17 | |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: did you see choqok request? | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | also it then can autocomplete for you | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | (if the appropriate symbols are loaded) | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | the symbols are loaded afaik | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | then just tip it | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | erm | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | Reading symbols from /usr/local/bin/rekonq...done. | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | tab it | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | :D:D:D:D | 14:18 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: no, where? | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | emit giggle(GiggleShaldon); | 14:18 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: bug 710981 | 14:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 710981 in choqok (Ubuntu) "New upstream release 1.0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710981 | 14:18 |
| shadeslayer | all i get is a bunch of weird looking vars like __CTOR_END__ | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | then the symbols are not loaded | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | or you are not good at tabbing | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | you type | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | NetworkAccessManager::tab tab tab tab tab type something tab tab tab type something more tab tab tab enter | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | unless you are in a namespace | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | then of course you need to prefix the namespace and stuff | 14:19 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i just did : gdb rekonq -> (gdb) break NetworkAccessManager::<tab> ... nothing | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | that is because the symbols are not loaded :P | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | run rekonq without bp once | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | then ctrl^c | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | and then you can set the bp for sure | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | unless you built without debug symbols ;) ;) | 14:22 |
| * apachelogger hands shadeslayer some more hypotheses | 14:23 | |
| shadeslayer | omg symbohls!!! | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | oh | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | by ze way | 14:23 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: what were the troubles with packaging upstream? | 14:23 |
| shadeslayer | hmm? | 14:24 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: with old format debuild creates *0ubuntu.tar.gz - source + /debian/ in one. | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | about my java exercise thingy we had a final presentation and I am not sure why but it ended in me bashing my group's tutor for proposing to introduce everywhere and in the ear of the customer and stuff | 14:24 |
| apachelogger | the java fanbois obsession with interfaces is rather scary | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | hahah | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: also i found out why i make leaky programs | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | it comes from my teachers | 14:24 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: oh that's because it's a .bz2 and source format 1 doesn't do those | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | they go " Oh! no need to delete that pointer, the OS will take care of it itself " | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | whut? :O | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | whut?????? | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | i spent 30 mins arguing that she should delete the pointer | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | whut?????????????????????????????????????????? | 14:25 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: I'd like to not recreate upstream tarball. Hope you understand my point. | 14:25 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: that too in Jahvah | 14:25 |
| apachelogger | in java you do not delete ptrs in java | 14:25 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: yes that's fine, uploaded, thanks | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | O_O | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | in java you do not delete no nothing | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | in java you have a garbage collector | 14:26 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | so you pray to good that the garbage collector has a smart algorithm | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | of course it does not | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | but that is not the point | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | ... | 14:26 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: many thanks ;-) | 14:26 |
| c2tarun | in the manual of pbuilder, it is written to install debian-archive-keyring but didn't explain why. I tried to google the term but failed to find material of what an debian-archive-keyring is? | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | ignore | 14:27 |
| Riddell | neversfelde: ping update needed on bug 706409 | 14:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 706409 in kid3 (Ubuntu) "kid3 new upstream release 1.5 and move to universe" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/706409 | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: how do you remove breakpoints? | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | c2tarun: it is a package that contains the gpg keys with which the official debian archive packages are signed | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | it is needed so that authenticy of the packages can be ensured | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | our pbuilder does that automagically for the ubuntu archive keys | 14:27 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: questions you ask... | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | del I think | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | me hasnt done gdb debugging in years | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | well | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | months maybe | 14:28 |
| c2tarun | thanks | 14:28 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | >implying old stuff is always good | 14:31 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: ^ | 14:31 |
| Quintasan | Referring to your "magical" pbuilderrc | 14:31 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: >they go " Oh! no need to delete that pointer, the OS will take care of it itself " | 14:32 |
| Quintasan | Are you serious? | 14:32 |
| Quintasan | This is soo....sooo... soomething it's not even funny :O | 14:33 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: say hi to your padawn you unfriendly troll :P | 14:34 |
| Quintasan | If you are referring to c2tarun then we must first ask him if he want to join our ranks | 14:35 |
| apachelogger | in my C course you got -50% on points if you memleaked ;) | 14:35 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: Anyways, hello there :) | 14:35 |
| c2tarun | hi I am here. | 14:35 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: hello :) | 14:35 |
| * apachelogger personally would have gone for -90 but oh well | 14:35 | |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: That's a good course | 14:36 |
| Quintasan | When I read what shadeslayer said I just held my head with both hands | 14:36 |
| Quintasan | "WTF" is not even halfway there in describing the dismay :O | 14:36 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: yeah .. dont ask | 14:37 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | in fact, never ask shadeslayer anything, you will only get rekonq diffs thrown at you... | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | right now im wondering why even overload all this networkaccess crap | 14:38 |
| c2tarun | in packaging manual, there is an example of packaging from scratch. In that example they told to install some packages (I guess I have to install them into chroot) how to install them in chroot? | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: right | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I wondered that all along | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | but if one were to voice all the wonderings about rekonq one would be voicing all day long | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | poor use of time that is | 14:39 |
| * shadeslayer looks at what it would take to remove those subclasses | 14:39 | |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: Change base.tgz Location contains the pbuilder config which apachelogger deems strange black, bad magic which you apparently shouldnt use but I use it and nothing has exploded yet | 14:39 |
| shadeslayer | bwahahaha | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | whut | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | where did I say one should not use it? | 14:40 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: at least two times you said it | 14:40 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: rekonq overloads all that crap to use kio cache | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan gets a beatin' at uds | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | ! | 14:40 |
| Quintasan | pfff | 14:40 |
| * Quintasan will go back trough the logs | 14:40 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: does kio not cache? | 14:40 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: what is the relation in b/w changing location and those packages mentioned ? :/ | 14:40 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: this config is just for managing pbuilder chroots | 14:41 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: if you want to install something in a chroot, I assume you are using pbuilder | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/rekonq/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/networkaccessmanager.cpp#L66 | 14:41 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: sudo pbuilder --login --save-after-login | 14:41 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: actually I am creating pbuilder, it will take some time | 14:41 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: you are creating a natty one? | 14:42 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: nope maverick. | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | lines 57-64 ... i have no idea what they do | 14:42 |
| Quintasan | okay, you will also need it at some point | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | they do make love to the protocolmanager | 14:42 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: he does not want to install anything into the chroot at this point ;) | 14:43 |
| Quintasan | well, that's kinda expected without having a one :P | 14:43 |
| apachelogger | beware of the intention behind a question, for the question can deceive you | 14:43 |
| * apachelogger also hands Quintasan some hypotheses and is now all out of them \\o/ | 14:44 | |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: what makes you think you want install something there? | 14:44 |
| Quintasan | >hypotheses | 14:44 |
| Quintasan | Why would I want your hypotheses apachelogger? :O | 14:45 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: because he has too many of them | 14:45 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: I used chroot env earlier and in that we have to install each and every package we want to use there. | 14:45 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: no need to do this in a pbuilder | 14:45 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: so i just guessed. and its also written in the manual's tutorial | 14:46 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: you add the dependencies to the debian/control file of a package which should be pulled and they will be installed during the build process and then they will get removed | 14:46 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: OK thats cool, is there any manual of packaging using pbuilder. wiki manual is using something called CDBS or chroot. | 14:47 |
| Quintasan | I'm not sure what are you reading c2tarun :) | 14:48 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete | 14:48 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: You want to make a new package? | 14:49 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: actually I am new to it. apachelogger told me that there is new version of bangarang out but kubuntu archive dont have it. so I was trying to make it from its source code. | 14:50 |
| Quintasan | Always, always search Debian and Ubuntu latest release for packages | 14:51 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: Actually, natty has a package imported directly from Debian, but the version is old: 1.0.1-1 | 14:51 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: Do you have the source tar-ball? | 14:52 |
| c2tarun | ya i downloaded it from kde-apps.org | 14:52 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ^ | 14:52 |
| Quintasan | Awesome, so, instead of doubling the workload and creating the packaging from scratch we can just use existing one. | 14:52 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ok, how | 14:53 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: open up a command line and go to where you have the source | 14:54 |
| Quintasan | make sure it's a separate directory cause we will grab some files | 14:54 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: what you want to do is to pull latest Ubuntu source package available | 14:54 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ok I m inside a directory which only has tarball | 14:54 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: pull-lp-source bangarang | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | if that gives a error hit Quintasan | 14:55 |
| Quintasan | That command will download the latest source of bangarang available on Launchpad | 14:55 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: I just downloaded it | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | if it doesn't give me a cookie | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: maybe he doesnt have the devscripts? :> | 14:55 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: the guide tells to install them :) | 14:56 |
| c2tarun | ya its doing something, actually pbuilder create is also working simultaneously so it'll take some time | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | ah your following the guide | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | now where's my kookie? | 14:56 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: meanwhile can u please explain me what does pulling means? | 14:56 |
| Quintasan | You don't get any cookies | 14:56 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: it's just downloading source files from launchpad | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger stole all our kookies | 14:57 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ya its done. :) | 14:57 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: download-lp-sources would be longer probably :P | 14:57 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: http://i.imgur.com/ITEzF.png | 14:57 |
| Quintasan | That's what you should have in your sources dir | 14:58 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ya i have it | 14:59 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: Now, I usually rename the tarball first of all because I usually forget to do this later :P So 'mv bangarang-2.0.tar.gz bangarang_2.0.orig.tar.gz' | 14:59 |
| Quintasan | That's the naming policy, there should be a "_" between the package name and the version and .orig. before rest of the extension marking it as an ORIGInal tarball | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | Naming policy in a big shortcut :P | 15:00 |
| c2tarun | that was i just about to ask :) | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | so, now we unpack the new sources with 'tar zxvf bangarang_2.0.orig.tar.gz' | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: I don't want them, so clearly I needed to get rid of them | 15:01 |
| Quintasan | You get a 'bangarang-bangarang' directory so rename it to 'bangarang-2.0' | 15:01 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Can I get rid of them too? | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | sure, just not in my direction | 15:02 |
| * Quintasan passes them on to shadeslayer | 15:02 | |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: you might want to inspect them first | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | There you go | 15:02 |
| c2tarun | ok | 15:02 |
| apachelogger | you never know if you give away a good H | 15:02 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ya done | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | awesome, then we will reuse the packaging by | 15:03 |
| Quintasan | cp -rf bangarang-1.0.1/debian bangarang-2.0/ | 15:03 |
| Quintasan | That copied the debian/ directory from the old package to the new one | 15:03 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: I assume you read through the guide and know which files do what? | 15:04 |
| c2tarun | ya i know :) | 15:04 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: copied | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | It has a watch file. Apparently you can update packages using some uscan magic but I tried it once and it made a mess | 15:05 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: can u please explain me what is a watch file. I never understood actually | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | It scans upstream files for a newer release of the package | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | so it's a verison check of some sort | 15:06 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: which mean we can check the current version in archive? | 15:07 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: nope, the watch file scans UPSTREAM files, upstream as in the developer that made the application | 15:07 |
| Quintasan | I can tell you I used it once and it all it did was some mess but I think it works because some people use it. | 15:08 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ok, so we can check the latest version available for the application? | 15:08 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: Yes | 15:08 |
| Quintasan | But we will do it the other way since not all packages have "watch" files available | 15:08 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ok, one more question, if we want to check the current version in archive how can we do that? | 15:09 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: I think the bigger gain in watch files is really tracking the up-to-dateness rather than actually conducting the package update | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: okay, if you want to know latest package version available in YOUR distribution archive by apt-cache show <package name> | 15:10 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: http://paste.ubuntu.com/560990 | 15:10 |
| Quintasan | This is what I get with apt-cache show bangarang on natty, it will show nothing if there is no such pacakge | 15:10 |
| * apachelogger notes that apt-cache policy yields less spew | 15:11 | |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: if you want to know what is the latest package version in latest development release you will have to ask launchpad or debian package list | 15:11 |
| Riddell | debfx: I added some comments to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ReducingDiskFootprint | 15:11 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ok, got it | 15:11 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: now, something I usually do is cd bangarang-2.0/debian | 15:12 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: now what after copying the debian folder/ | 15:12 |
| c2tarun | ? | 15:12 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: i m already in there :) | 15:12 |
| Quintasan | do a dir and look through all files there so I know what the hell I'm working with | 15:12 |
| Quintasan | Usually I look at debian/{control,rules,compat} and *.install files | 15:13 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ok, i have many files, with control, changelog and one watch file. | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | ls > dir | 15:13 |
| apachelogger | ls has the coloring by default :D :D :D | 15:13 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 15:13 |
| * Quintasan has alias dir = "ls --color-auto" or something like this | 15:14 | |
| c2tarun | ok, let me post the o/p | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: what pointlessness is that? | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | dir != ls | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | scary scary | 15:14 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Don't give a damn, I usually use ls to display stuff in a directory | 15:14 |
| Quintasan | or ls -al sometimes | 15:14 |
| c2tarun | here is what i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/560991/ | 15:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: sigh ... breaking on (gdb) break NetworkAccessManager::createRequest(QNetworkAccessManager::Operation, QNetworkRequest const&, QIODevice*) doesnt do shit | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: you speak funny gnu | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | everyone else does ls -la :P | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | i commeneted on a bug, and execution didnt stop | 15:15 |
| Quintasan | omfg apachelogger go help shadeslayer instead of disturbing me :P | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | lawl | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: clearly something is the broken then, right? :P | 15:15 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: that's pretty much what you should have there | 15:15 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: clearly gdb is broken :P | 15:15 |
| apachelogger | or you dont know how to use it | 15:16 |
| shadeslayer | same thing as gdb being broken | 15:16 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: well, the case here is to look around and make sure you understand the files inside in case you run into some problems | 15:16 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: you don't have to do this everytime you upgrade a package | 15:16 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: iGree | 15:16 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ok, i don't know about some files here. | 15:17 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: "cd .." so we land into bangarang-2.0 | 15:17 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: go ahead and ask, if I don't know something we can always pester apachelogger | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | emit yawn(YawnHippo); | 15:17 |
| c2tarun | like bangarang.1, menu, *nepomukwriter.1 | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | I shall not be pestered | 15:17 |
| c2tarun | *=bangarang | 15:17 |
| apachelogger | I have exam in t-2h or so | 15:17 |
| Quintasan | bangarang.1 and *nepomukwriter.1 are MANual pages | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | which means i can pester you for 2 hours | 15:18 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: I hoped you used man before, right? :P | 15:18 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ya :) | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | also | 15:18 |
| c2tarun | what about menu? | 15:18 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: and bangarang.manpages tells the build system what files are to be installed as manual pages | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: be ready to write man pages at UDS if apachelogger decides to come | 15:18 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: You will do that | 15:18 |
| Quintasan | :P | 15:18 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: i had my share of man page writing | 15:19 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: now, this menu stuff is new to me | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | id rather stick to C++ | 15:19 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: wtf is this menu? | 15:19 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/3896 | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | :O | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | and we made you kubuntu dev? :O | 15:19 |
| apachelogger | holy smokes | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | lmao | 15:20 |
| apachelogger | http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/ | 15:20 |
| * apachelogger takes a note to ask more questions about files in debian/ | 15:20 | |
| Quintasan | oh, that's stuff for generating menus in DEs? @_@ | 15:21 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: got it :) | 15:21 |
| Quintasan | now, there is a debian/source/format files | 15:21 |
| Quintasan | file* | 15:21 |
| c2tarun | yup | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: in window managers actually | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | It tells which source format are we using in this package | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | predates the desktop file magic by a bazillion years | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | as old as debian is itself | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: who still uses this stuff when KDE is around? :P | 15:22 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ok | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | back in the days one only had crappy window managers | 15:22 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: debian | 15:22 |
| shadeslayer | such as fwm :P | 15:23 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: now go back to the source (bangarang-2.0) dir | 15:23 |
| Quintasan | and do "dch -i" | 15:23 |
| * apachelogger starts writing a header for himself | 15:23 | |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: I think we didn't made any changes to source code. Than why are we updating changelog? | 15:24 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: That's not the changelog for source code :) | 15:24 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: It's changelog of packaging | 15:24 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: oh :) | 15:24 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: Now what we want to do is to change the version form 1.0.1-1ubuntu1 to 2.0-0ubuntu1 | 15:25 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: what should i write there? | 15:25 |
| Quintasan | The line should look like this "bangarang (2.0-0ubuntu1) natty; urgency=low" | 15:25 |
| c2tarun | ok, and anything with maverick and urgency? | 15:26 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: maverick should be natty | 15:26 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ^ | 15:27 |
| Quintasan | You don't usually change urgency unless new version fixes something critial | 15:27 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ok, anything i should write here? | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer, Quintasan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/560998/ what do ye say? | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | *click* | 15:28 |
| shadeslayer | ahahahahaha | 15:28 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: you forgot pretendToBeWorking() | 15:28 |
| apachelogger | oh | 15:29 |
| apachelogger | true | 15:29 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: Well | 15:29 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: It usually mentions what you changed in the packaging | 15:29 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: Since we are updating it I would add "New upstream release" for now | 15:29 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ok :) | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | If something pops out that makes you need to change something in the packaging we can add it at a later point | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: Save the changes and exit | 15:30 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: ok, done. | 15:30 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: done | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | do "debuild -S" | 15:30 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: it should ask for passphrase for you gpg key, it signs the package and the *.dsc and *.changes file | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 15:31 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: I think I got an error. | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | it will probably fail at patching | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | damn it | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | :S | 15:32 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: I sense some DSO stuff jumping at me | 15:32 |
| c2tarun | wait let me show it to u | 15:32 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/3898/ | 15:32 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/560999/ | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: do you think the void ** are a bit unsafe? | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | could happen that someone tries to feed me java or something | 15:33 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah ... i was thinking that :P | 15:33 |
| * apachelogger better forward decls paritcular classes | 15:33 | |
| Quintasan | oh | 15:33 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: You have to install pkg-kde-tools | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: your korundum is broken | 15:33 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: oh... manual was for ubuntu | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: blame upstream | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | its from git | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | so a fix is appreciated | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | I have no time | 15:34 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: now, it will fail at patching | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | I am working | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | After this operation, 55.5MB disk space will be freed. << Neon freeing disk space :O | 15:34 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: why so? | 15:34 |
| shadeslayer | thats a first | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: because this particular patch was applied upstream | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | then clearly something broke | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: When a patch fails to apply you need to check whether it was applied upstream or it needs some line adjusting | 15:35 |
| Quintasan | kubuntu_01_linker_fix.diff <--- this patch went upstream | 15:35 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: chk this http://paste.ubuntu.com/561000/ | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/561001/ better? | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: so you can do "rm debian/patches/kubuntu_01_linker_fix.diff" | 15:36 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: look at line 28, it says which patch it was applying | 15:36 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: can u please explain me what happened after my debuil -S | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: lol // void study(); | 15:36 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: it failed applying the patch | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: less vim debian/patches/kubuntu_01_linker_fix.diff | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | urgh | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | -vim there | 15:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: best not to put it there, you might be tempted to uncomment it later on | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | well | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | it is not implemented | 15:37 |
| * shadeslayer goes to #kde-devel with his broken kroundum | 15:37 | |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: and then look at the files which it patches and you will see the lines are already there | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: kde-ruby might be tter | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | oh | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | look what I did | 15:38 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: so the patch is useless now | 15:38 |
| apachelogger | scary scary | 15:38 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: PM! | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: #kde-ruby is filled with markey | 15:38 |
| shadeslayer | i dont feel safe now | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | lolz | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | oh | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | I could tweak that a bit | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | tweak what | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | be{2} tter | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | your class? | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | no | 15:39 |
| shadeslayer | korundum? | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: kde-ruby might be{2} tter | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | now lets see, how do we fix them whitespace problem | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | ah | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | maybe | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | or no | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:40 |
| shadeslayer | ah oh ... ... | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | i could just start the recipe, all the deps are satisfied | 15:41 |
| shadeslayer | not my fault that korundum is broken | 15:41 |
| apachelogger | ah regex is crap | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | oh | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | maybe not | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | (be |be){2}tter | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | then again that also matches bebetter whch is no goody | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | oh | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | meh meh meh | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | I give up | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | Internal Server Error | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | what are you running? Winduh's? | 15:46 |
| afiestas | I'm getting a loooooooot of crashes with the next bt: http://paste.kde.org/3900/ | 15:46 |
| afiestas | kdevelop crash (because of kdevmanpage.so) amarok crash, crystal plasmoid (compiled by myself) crash | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | thats webkit being sucky | 15:47 |
| afiestas | I can see that :p | 15:47 |
| afiestas | rekonq crashing too | 15:47 |
| shadeslayer | now to fix some webkit bugs | 15:48 |
| afiestas | no thanks... | 15:48 |
| afiestas | :p | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | afiestas: i was talking about myself :P | 15:49 |
| afiestas | aah : xd | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | you are very selfish | 15:49 |
| shadeslayer | this stuff needs in-depth study during the weekend -.- | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | what to do then ... | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i need #work | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | something easy | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | well ... i could finish reading the design guidelines | 15:59 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger, shadeslayer: I have to go to my English lessons soon and then I also have homework to do, c2tarun should have a debdiff ready soon so please review | 16:09 |
| shadeslayer | will do | 16:09 |
| shadeslayer | im on for another hour | 16:09 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: about the time it finishes downloading and building on his PC | 16:09 |
| shadeslayer | then i sleep .. i haz a java lab tomorrow :S | 16:09 |
| shadeslayer | hehehe | 16:10 |
| Quintasan | I'm in a hurry so see you later | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | ill come online via my phone | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | cya | 16:10 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: you have a interesting IP btw | 16:12 |
| c2tarun | guys I have my debdiff ready. | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | 1.23.171.154 | 16:12 |
| c2tarun | IP?? | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | oooh | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: show | 16:12 |
| c2tarun | oh :) | 16:12 |
| shadeslayer | pastebinit somewhere :) | 16:12 |
| c2tarun | ok wait | 16:12 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: i think that file is too big to be pasted, anyother way? | 16:13 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: can you take a diff of the debian folders? | 16:14 |
| c2tarun | wait let me try | 16:14 |
| c2tarun | http://paste.ubuntu.com/561019/ | 16:16 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: ^ | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | looking | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: try diff -u | 16:17 |
| shadeslayer | wait no | 16:17 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: ya | 16:17 |
| shadeslayer | boi .. its been long since i used diff | 16:17 |
| c2tarun | hmmm..... I myself used it once. :( | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: diff -Nru | 16:18 |
| shadeslayer | between the 2 debian folders | 16:19 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/561021/ | 16:20 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: give a explanation as to why you removed the patches in the changelog | 16:21 |
| Quintasan | derp | 16:22 |
| c2tarun | coz debuild -S failed on patching process. | 16:22 |
| shadeslayer | looks good otherwise | 16:22 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: nope .. they were probably applied upstream | 16:23 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: They were applied upstream | 16:23 |
| c2tarun | ya somewhat after that :S | 16:23 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: Ther reason then failed to apply during the debuild -S stage is that they were applied upstream | 16:23 |
| Quintasan | but well | 16:24 |
| Quintasan | not bad | 16:24 |
| c2tarun | actually very sorry Quintasan but I'll read patching once by myself, u tried a lot but i understood a little :( | 16:24 |
| Quintasan | I started not even knowing what on earth was diff anyways | 16:24 |
| c2tarun | :) | 16:24 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: It's just that I've grown too acustomed to technical wording and I don't know how to explain it in simple language | 16:25 |
| Quintasan | :S | 16:25 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: no prob :) can u please refer me to any link on patching. | 16:26 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: care finding some guide on quilt? I think we had one on Wiki | 16:26 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: I just looked at ur name :P u gave an interview in fullcircle?? | 16:26 |
| shadeslayer | looking | 16:26 |
| Quintasan | Full Circle Magazine? | 16:27 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: yup | 16:27 |
| shadeslayer | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/QuiltMagic | 16:27 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: Can't say I did that, you sure I was there? :O | 16:27 |
| shadeslayer | there ya go ^^ | 16:27 |
| c2tarun | ya may be b/w issue 41-45 | 16:27 |
| c2tarun | issue 44 i just saw | 16:28 |
| Quintasan | LOL | 16:28 |
| Quintasan | No, seriously | 16:28 |
| Quintasan | I'm there :O | 16:29 |
| c2tarun | cool :) | 16:29 |
| Quintasan | Thanks for telling me | 16:29 |
| shadeslayer | whut | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | WHUT | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: your famous? | 16:30 |
| * Quintasan and his awesome hat | 16:30 | |
| c2tarun | ya and hat too :) | 16:30 |
| Quintasan | Too bad I broke the hat while skateboarding | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | so rekonq now has a UA string changer | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | rejoice | 16:37 |
| Quintasan | yay for broken X stack | 16:37 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: ^^ | 16:37 |
| yofel | grr... evdev crashes on suspend here | 16:38 |
| * yofel goes updating | 16:38 | |
| shadeslayer | http://i.imgur.com/7tXFv.png | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 16:43 |
| yofel | you sure like useless features.. | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: not useless actually | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | for eg. the new yahoo only works with chrome/FF | 16:44 |
| yofel | well yeah, but how often do you actually need that... | 16:44 |
| yofel | oh ok | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | well .. if you use yahoo ... alot? :P | 16:44 |
| yofel | yeah, which I don't :P | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | right .. but we had this discussion at uds ... rekonq wont open yahoo mail | 16:45 |
| Riddell | if I remember what the Chrome chap told us, it needs the user agent changed (or was that hotmail)? | 16:47 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | all it needs is a user agent change | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | i think i made it change the user agent and it worked | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | now i cant remember my yahoo pass | 16:50 |
| debfx | Riddell: I've replied to your comments | 17:08 |
| debfx | apachelogger: what's the status of dvd playback in natty? | 17:08 |
| debfx | dragonplayer + gstreamer backend doesn't work at all? | 17:08 |
| debfx | Riddell: imho libgeoip should suggest geoip-database and packages which really need geoip can recommend/depend on the database | 17:10 |
| Riddell | tricky part is then we have to work out what packages really need geoip | 17:11 |
| debfx | yes and it's something that needs to be done in Debian | 17:12 |
| === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok | ||
| Riddell | debfx: why do you say that? | 17:15 |
| debfx | Riddell: because we would have to review all new packages that use libgeoip | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://searchengineland.com/google-bing-is-cheating-copying-our-search-results-62914 < *snigger* | 17:34 |
| maemologger | Any nus for me? | 17:35 |
| ari-tczew | does somebody working on ktorrent? | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 17:42 |
| shadeslayer | maemologger: look at #rekonq from your main account | 17:42 |
| shadeslayer | commit floods ftw | 17:42 |
| maemologger | No quassel | 17:42 |
| maemologger | You do work | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | hmm? | 17:43 |
| maemologger | Actually, can someone paste me my header? | 17:43 |
| yofel | what header? | 17:44 |
| maemologger | Mine | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | maemologger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/561001/ | 17:44 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: apachelogger.h :P | 17:44 |
| maemologger | Cheers | 17:44 |
| yofel | LOL | 17:44 |
| maemologger | Stuff is missing | 17:46 |
| maemologger | Brainstorm plz | 17:46 |
| shadeslayer | what happens if apachelogger.h gets into rekonq and stl | 17:47 |
| shadeslayer | i cannot imagine | 17:47 |
| maemologger | No template means no stl | 17:48 |
| maemologger | Also there is a bug | 17:51 |
| maemologger | Instance is a ptr and a var | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | maemologger: patch : http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/100456/diff/#index_header | 18:03 |
| maemologger | Wtf | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | maemologger: :P | 18:08 |
| maemologger | Is it pron? | 18:08 |
| shadeslayer | maemologger: its a 176KB patch | 18:09 |
| maemologger | It happens | 18:10 |
| maemologger | Reviewboard is not suited for that | 18:10 |
| maemologger | Imho | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | gitorious++ | 18:10 |
| maemologger | I think overlord of reviews aseigo agrees | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | gitorious has a awesome merge system | 18:11 |
| shadeslayer | maemologger: i hear its going to get better soon | 18:11 |
| jjesse | umm what's up with the bzr commit notificiations today? | 18:44 |
| maco | jjesse: what? | 18:44 |
| jjesse | in my gmail i got a bunch of bzr commit messages from lp in regars to kubuntu stuff | 18:46 |
| yofel | probably you're subscribed to the branches on launchpad? | 18:46 |
| jjesse | maybe wonde rhow | 18:47 |
| Riddell | jjesse: I just approved the backlog of stuff blocked on that list | 18:48 |
| Riddell | ignore it | 18:48 |
| Riddell | I set a filter so it shouldn't happen in future | 18:49 |
| * Riddell wonders what to do with bug 709416 | 19:06 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 709416 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Transition from 8.04 to 10.10 causes loss of contacts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709416 | 19:06 |
| Riddell | it's from a customer of canonical so I feel I should do something but if he's moved to another e-mail client I don't think there's much I can do | 19:07 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: tell him to backup | 19:14 |
| Quintasan | I just can't imagine how they want us to keep consistency with such a big leap in software stack :O | 19:14 |
| Riddell | mm, it's not a supported upgrade indeed | 19:17 |
| maco | Riddell: do you think they went through 10.04 or mashed the sources.list? | 19:26 |
| maco | though when i think about it...i dont think my contacts survives 9.10 -> 10.04. i had to tell kaddressbook "listen dear, you made this vcf before, dont you remember? please just keep using it, its right over here" | 19:27 |
| Riddell | maco: no idea | 19:28 |
| Tm_T | right, akonadi-switch doesn't bring the old contacts along | 19:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | ahhhh, good old Akonadi | 19:31 |
| === cmagina is now known as cmagina-shovelin | ||
| sheytan | Quintasan ping | 20:35 |
| sheytan | Quintasan http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/8500/pn128.png | 20:36 |
| debfx | Riddell: you haven't actually demoted gvfs to suggests in gstreamer | 21:23 |
| debfx | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/63229777/gst-plugins-base0.10_0.10.32-1_0.10.32-1ubuntu1.diff.gz | 21:24 |
| Riddell | oh it has silly control.in evilness | 21:28 |
| Riddell | well needs to wait for alpha 2 now | 21:43 |
| Riddell | natty-desktop-powerpc.iso 01-Feb-2011 20:13 698M | 21:49 |
| Riddell | ScottK: success ^^ | 21:49 |
| === cmagina-shovelin is now known as cmagina | ||
| ScottK | Riddell: Looks like I guessed just about right. | 23:38 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: ^^^ Can you test? | 23:38 |
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