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esinghiho01:43
MrChrisDruifHai esing :)01:43
esingwo? :D01:44
MrChrisDruifYou?01:44
MrChrisDruif:P01:44
esinghehe01:44
MrChrisDruifHow's it going?01:44
esingIam rather a yellowbelly than a hai01:44
esing:D01:44
esingthanks alls fine here01:45
esingiam  searching an audio player for only shell at the moment01:45
esing(having another partition without desktop environment01:45
MrChrisDruifaplay?01:45
MrChrisDruif;)01:45
esingaplay :D01:45
esingi download it now and try it01:46
MrChrisDruifIsn't it installed by default? :P01:46
esingdunno ^^01:46
esingah01:46
MrChrisDruifIn Arch you use it to test the sound :P01:46
esingmy second partition is not lubuntu01:46
esingi have on 2nd partition debian01:46
MrChrisDruifI run Ubuntu ;)01:46
esingaplay  bash: aplay: command not found01:47
esing^^01:47
esingI wanted LXDE therefore I chose lubuntu :D01:47
MrChrisDruifaplay bash?01:49
MrChrisDruifMeh.... "aplay /path/to/wav/or.mp3"01:49
MrChrisDruifOtherwise...sudo apt-get install aplay ofc....but there must be better audioplayer for terminal01:51
jmarsdenMrChrisDruif: cmus is one possibility02:21
MrChrisDruifjmarsden: esing was looking for a terminal audioplayer...if I remember it still tomorrow...I'll tell him :)02:22
jmarsdenSounds good.  BTW I did apt-cache search mp3 | sort |less and then read the list to see any entries that mentioned terminal or cli or curses :)02:24
JackyAlcineMrChrisDruif: how about the Sox library? it has a 'play <filename>' app.02:27
MrChrisDruifAlright....like aplay?02:28
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psyklowni was wondering if i could get a little help getting my apps to autostart or just a really basic tutorial will suffice.06:56
bioterroron login?06:56
psyklownyeah it says to make a .desktop file and so forth, but im not sure what that is or where my autostart folder is.06:57
bioterrorhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ06:57
bioterrorthere's at the bottom06:57
bioterrorI've made a good example06:57
bioterrorshould work like a charm06:58
psyklowncp /usr/share/applications/urxvtd.desktop ~/.config/autostart/   do i insert the name of the application in there some where? im a bit confused07:05
bioterrorreplace that urxvtd what ever you're needing07:05
bioterrorofcourse07:05
psyklownit is saying there is no such file or directory.07:08
psyklownsorry. really new to linux07:08
bioterrorwhich program you're trying to load07:09
psyklowni would like compiz and emerald. i dont use gnome just because it is too slow and i like the lubuntu. i know its weird :(07:10
bioterroryou might have to make yourself compiz.desktop and emerald.desktop if those are not found from /usr/share/applications/07:11
bioterroryou can make them to .config/autostart07:11
psyklownalright that sounds good. im not good with "make to" so the ".desktop" is a hidden file right?07:12
bioterrornope07:12
bioterrorit's something.desktop07:12
bioterrorthat's in the FAQ too07:13
bioterrorthere's a link to documentation about .desktop -files07:13
psyklowni guess i did something wrong bio07:23
bioterrorwhat did you do then07:23
psyklowni figured the only thing i would need to edit was the name and the exec which was both "emerald" then i inserted the name in the appropriate places. it didnt start on login07:25
psyklownill be back bio. see if i missed something07:29
bioterrordid you now get it working07:34
psyklownno. i feel stupid :(07:34
bioterrordo you have those two activated in that something07:34
psyklownit is in my autostart, but i guess i just went wrong in the making of the file07:34
bioterrorI cant access that FAQ from here, for a mystical reason07:35
psyklowndo have them activated in that?07:35
bioterrorread the faq07:36
bioterrorthere's explaned that you have to activate the autostart from the menu07:36
psyklownyeah thats what i said. i made sure it was selected to autostart07:36
bioterrorin terminal07:37
bioterrorwhich emerald07:37
bioterrorwhich compiz07:37
bioterrorand add the lines to exec07:37
psyklownso i add usr/bin/emerald to exec?07:40
bioterrorit starts always with /07:41
bioterror/usr/bin/emerald07:41
psyklownoh yeah sorry07:41
psyklownalright so /usr/bin/emerald should be the only thing in exec and that should execute the "emerald command"07:45
psyklownim gonna give it a try07:46
* jmarsden wonders why psyklown can't stay on IRC while editing a small text file? Something seems odd about that to me.07:47
bioterrorhe tests that by logging out and in07:47
bioterrorreni raus07:47
bioterrorrein raus ;)07:47
jmarsdenWould be much more sane to test by clicking on the .desktop file, wouldn't it?  Then when that works, test autorunning it?07:48
bioterrorwell, it would be too easy07:48
jmarsden:)07:48
bioterrorit doesnt have that feeling of doing something07:48
psyklownmy god i finally got it working08:05
bioterrorI hope you have now a satisfied feeling08:07
psyklownlol yeah. well when i first that that command "sudo nano /usr/share/applications/emerald.desktop" it was just a blank file and i thought i had to make one. so i made one and then copied it over it didnt work. this was with emerald. so i used that same command with compiz and i actually got a file with text. i copied it over and i think it activates emerald too08:10
bioterrorseems like you learned alot ;)08:11
psyklownlol yeah. that i cant make a working executable for autostart08:11
bioterrorbut you get those two autostart now?08:14
bioterrorand you have a 3D lubuntu desktop? ;)08:14
kristian-aalborghi all08:15
bioterrorseems like you have a new problem, kristian-aalborg? ;)08:15
kristian-aalborgbioterror: what?08:15
bioterroryou usally join when you have something to ask ;)08:16
kristian-aalborgis that wrong?08:16
bioterrornope08:16
psyklownbioterror yes i did get them to autostart. very content :)08:16
kristian-aalborgI also help when I can, as opposed to calling people trolls...08:18
kristian-aalborgwould anyone have tried Lubuntu on a Thinkpad circa 2002-2005... it seems like it would go down very well08:18
bioterrorT40, T6008:19
bioterrordoes it satisfy you08:19
kristian-aalborgsomething with about 1.5 Ghz and 1 gig of ram08:19
kristian-aalborgbioterror: shall we bury the hatchet?08:19
bioterrormy wife is running lubuntu all the time on her T40p08:19
bioterroreverything is okay as long as you dont have to deal with broadcom chipsets08:20
psyklownlol yeah i have the wretched broadcom08:20
bioterrorkristian-aalborg, but I can tell you that T series thinkpads have always worked well with *nixes08:24
bioterrorwith R-series I have no experience, X -series are too working well08:25
kristian-aalborgIBM likes linux and are serious about standards08:25
bioterrormostly the problems are with graphics08:25
kristian-aalborgI think that goes for any graphics card manufacturer, more or less08:26
kristian-aalborgI'm not going to need 3d, I think08:26
kristian-aalborghow's surfing on the T40?08:27
bioterrorfine08:28
kristian-aalborgflash is okay?08:28
bioterrorcomes from the restricted08:28
* kristian-aalborg hates flash as much as the next guy, but it's everywhere 08:28
bioterrorand I've got propietary java from the partner repo08:28
kristian-aalborgyes, I was thinking about the rendering08:28
bioterrormy wife plays some games at facebook08:28
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bioterrorsome may be a little laggy08:29
bioterrorbut youtube works well for example08:29
kristian-aalborgthe 2g surf I put lubuntu on can't play youtube08:29
bioterrorpsyklown, you got all the window borders working too without a problem?08:32
psyklownbioterror do you mean emerald?08:32
bioterroryeah08:32
bioterrordo I remember right, that it requires some "themes"08:33
psyklownyeah i think whenever i got compiz to autostart it starts emerald too like they start together for some reason. even though i dont think i technically got emerald to autostart08:33
bioterrorit can be possible that compiz needs emerald and it launches it08:34
bioterrorit was like years ago when I played with those08:34
bioterroras they were cool n hip ;)08:34
psyklownyeah i just use it because lubuntu seems a bit dull graphically. this gives my laptop a more elegant look when i add the themes and such08:35
bioterroryeah, now you can show it to your windows friends ;)08:36
psyklownlol well i use windows too and all my friends are gamers so they really arent impressed by themes. we use high end graphics for gaming, but it does look nice.08:37
kristian-aalborgbox crashed, sorry08:40
psyklownis there a 64 bit 10.04 lubuntu?08:41
bioterroronly if you make installation from mini.iso08:42
psyklownah. okay08:42
jmarsdenbioterror: Is there a technical reason for that, or just that no-one created a 64but Lubuntu ISO image yet?08:42
jmarsdens/64but/64bit/08:43
bioterrorjmarsden, I think no one08:43
bioterrorand seems like 32bit packages are priority #108:43
bioterrorI tried 10.10 64bit and it didnt work as well as 32bit, then I upgraded to 11.04 as 64bit and I decided that I'll use arch from now on as my desktop computer ;)08:44
jmarsdenbioterror: Understood, but I have a big beefy 64bit workstations I am typing on... maybe I can build a 64bit Lubuntu ISO one day.  But not today, it is approaching 1am here and I should go to bed.  Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS here on the main workstation.  Lubuntu and all kinds of other things in virtual machines :)08:45
jmarsden10.04.1 I mean, 10.04.2 is not out yet :)08:45
psyklownhaving broadcom i have had a hard time with linux. if i use 10.04 ubuntu and lubuntu recognize my firmware. if i upgrade to any other version. my firmware is no longer recognize. the weirdest thing.08:45
psyklownrecognized*08:46
kristian-aalborgbioterror: have you experienced "flexing" problems with the T40?08:47
jmarsdenIt's best to research Linux compatibility before getting your credit card out :)08:47
bioterrorkristian-aalborg, you mean that fan is keeping noises?08:47
jmarsdenbioterror: I think he means his fan is full of dirt and stops and so his machine overheats.08:48
bioterrorthat's normal :D08:48
bioterrorget yourself another and replace the fan08:48
bioterrorremove keyboard and so on08:48
bioterrorit's easy on older stinkpads08:48
psyklownwell im out. thanks for the help bio08:50
bioterrornp08:50
bioterrorone satisfied customer ;)08:50
kristian-aalborgbioterror: I heard on #thinkpad-forum that the T40 has a tendency to have components go loose on the motherboard08:51
bioterrorjmarsden, but the problem with 64bit is really that packages and stuff aint as up-to-date what seems to be with 32bit08:51
jmarsdenbioterror: Can you explain?  They are build from the same sources, they should be exactly as up to date!08:51
jmarsdenWhen I upload a source package to my PPA it gets built for both i386 and amd64...08:52
bioterrorhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxappearance/+bug/690318 still nothing has happened08:57
jmarsdenbioterror: That's only six weeks old!  I ahve bugs that are two years old still in LP :)09:02
bioterrorjmarsden, yeah, it's not important. as 32bit doesnt have this problem....09:11
kristian-aalborgbioterror: so, all in all you'd recommend the T40?09:12
jmarsdenNo, you just need to be more patient :)  I have bugs that are not 32bit or 64bit specific that have waited MUCH longer than six weeks :)09:12
bioterrorkristian-aalborg, or T60, T61, T42, but I prefer that little p -letter ;)09:13
kristian-aalborgas in pentium?09:13
bioterrorkristian-aalborg, that means that panel is 1400x1050 ;)09:13
bioterrorand usually bt and wifi09:13
kristian-aalborgah09:13
bioterrorjmarsden, I've got some problems with chemistry in my brains, I'm not at good with that kind of patience ;)09:14
jmarsdenbioterror: Then you should just work on fixing the bug yourself and adding the fix to the bug report :)09:14
kristian-aalborgI don't use bt, but wifi is essential... will have to ask seller if it's included09:15
bioterroryeah, that's the thing what FOSS is about09:15
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leszekhi12:46
MrChrisDruifHai leszek :)12:47
gandsnutWould somebody direct me to the .MD5 checksum for the current release of Lubuntu's .ISO?16:11
gandsnutI am at a loss to find it on the web site16:12
leszekgandsnut: it should be here in the release announcement: http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1010-released16:17
gandsnutthanks16:25
hblounthi. i tethered my lg ally smartphone (android) to my laptop (10.10) for mobile broadband with an app "easytether". i can browse web, do irc, everything but make torrents connect. any idea what i can do to fix?16:34
hblountanyone know how i can get my horizontal scroll to work for my acer laptop?16:54
leszekhblount: for tethering you need to open the ports for torrent16:58
leszekhblount: for the touchpad there is a command line tool called synclient take a look at its manpage there should be an option for switching that on17:01
leszekhblount: synclient HorizEdgeScroll=1 should fix the problem17:02
hblountcool17:03
leszekif you want it to have it default you need create a autostart entry for this, please take a look at the wiki on how to do that17:03
hblounti am trying to use the program nicotine but everytime i start it, it asks me to choose download folder again. it says "can't create directory, error, permission denied" how do i fix this?17:17
hblountalso, how do you open ports with my tether smartphone?17:18
hblountleszek, i tried to google "lubuntu autostart wiki" but i cant find it. what do i search for?17:19
leszekhblount: I don't know how to open that ports on your smartphone17:24
hblountok. do you know about permission denied error for nicotine program?17:25
hblounti can't find autostart wiki on google17:28
leszeknicotine ? I don't know the app17:29
hblountfileshare app17:29
leszekhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ17:29
hblountnicotine is a filesharing app. i have to choose download folder every time i open and it says error "can't create directory, error, permission denied"17:39
hblountthe command on the wiki doesnt work for me17:43
hblountcp: cannot stat `/usr/share/applications/urxvtd.desktop': No such file or directory17:44
abualijawadhi17:47
abualijawadhow to fix missing plugins in chromium browser for lubuntu17:47
hblounthow do i make a command autostart when i turn on computer?17:53
mark76Is this for Lubuntu?17:59
RaceConditionwill Lubuntu run fast enough on a PIII 768MHz with 128MB RAM?18:01
mark76Nah18:02
RaceConditionmark76: no?18:04
mark76I'm pretty sure it won't. But I could be wrong18:04
RaceConditionhow about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/LucidLynx ?18:05
RaceCondition"To use the graphical installer from the live-cd, you need at least 160 MB of memory." << can I choose a text based installed?18:05
RaceCondition(it's funny though that the installer requires more memory than the OS itself, and ironic)18:05
mark76I imagine you could. Though I've never heard of one18:08
mark76But there must be an alternative install for Lubuntu18:09
bioterroryes there is18:09
mark76Yay18:09
bioterrorhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/AlternateInstall18:09
RaceConditionoh, cool...18:11
RaceConditionhmm, download link broken18:13
RaceConditionis that the newest version of Lubuntu though? 10.1018:13
mark76Yes18:16
RaceConditionnice18:16
hblounthow do i make a command autostart on bootup?18:20
hblounti tried "cp /usr/share/applications/urxvtd.desktop ~/.config/autostart/"18:26
hblounterror:18:26
hblountcp: cannot stat `/usr/share/applications/urxvtd.desktop': No such file or directory18:26
bioterrorit's just example18:26
bioterror;)18:26
mark76Have you tried cp /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart /home/you/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu?18:27
hblountdamn18:27
bioterrormark76, what?18:27
hblountok i want to make "synclient HorizEdgeScroll=1" execute when i startup18:28
hblounthow do i do that?18:28
bioterroryou make synclient.desktop18:28
bioterrorto the .config/autostart/ folder18:28
bioterrorand that line is the "exec" line18:29
hblounti dont see autostart folder in .config18:33
hblounti see lxpanel, lxterminal, other stuff18:34
bioterrorhblount, I guess you can mkdir it18:44
hblountok i make autostart folder. how to i make the command work18:46
bioterrorffffuuuu18:48
bioterrorI removed18:48
bioterrormy file18:48
bioterror:D18:48
bioterrorhblount, http://pastebin.com/PfN4TSpp18:51
bioterrorI cant make this any more easy for you18:51
hblountso i just type that in terminal?18:53
bioterroryou make something.desktop into your .config/autostart18:54
bioterrorand then you start Desktop Session Settings from the menu's preferences as the FAQ says18:54
hblountwhat do i start in desktop session settings18:56
bioterrorsorry, but I really cant move the mouse cursor for you18:58
bioterrorhow hard I wish I could18:58
hblountyes, i am noob. but you are also poor explainer and get impatient because your instructions arent clear for noob18:59
hblountthanks anyway18:59
hblounteveryone else that helped me hear crystal clear18:59
hblounthere*18:59
bioterrormaybe someone else gives him some help next time instead of me19:02
gnewbIs there a GUI program to make the mouse larger?21:47
bioterroroh22:01
bioterrorgnewb, should be22:01
bioterrorI just came to my lappy to check it out22:01
gnewbbioterror: Thank you, I tried a few from the Synaptic thing, no such animal, yet22:02
bioterrorlxappearance is the program and uses name Customize look and feel in the preferences22:02
gnewbbioterror: Thank you, fetching now.22:02
bioterrorlxappearance is default program22:02
gnewbbioterror: where is that located?22:03
bioterrorWed00:02 <bioterror> lxappearance is the program and uses name Customize look and feel in the preferences22:04
gnewbok, thank you, is CLI22:07
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