[01:43] <esing> hiho
[01:43] <MrChrisDruif> Hai esing :)
[01:44] <esing> wo? :D
[01:44] <MrChrisDruif> You?
[01:44] <MrChrisDruif> :P
[01:44] <esing> hehe
[01:44] <MrChrisDruif> How's it going?
[01:44] <esing> Iam rather a yellowbelly than a hai
[01:44] <esing> :D
[01:45] <esing> thanks alls fine here
[01:45] <esing> iam  searching an audio player for only shell at the moment
[01:45] <esing> (having another partition without desktop environment
[01:45] <MrChrisDruif> aplay?
[01:45] <MrChrisDruif> ;)
[01:45] <esing> aplay :D
[01:46] <esing> i download it now and try it
[01:46] <MrChrisDruif> Isn't it installed by default? :P
[01:46] <esing> dunno ^^
[01:46] <esing> ah
[01:46] <MrChrisDruif> In Arch you use it to test the sound :P
[01:46] <esing> my second partition is not lubuntu
[01:46] <esing> i have on 2nd partition debian
[01:46] <MrChrisDruif> I run Ubuntu ;)
[01:47] <esing> aplay  bash: aplay: command not found
[01:47] <esing> ^^
[01:47] <esing> I wanted LXDE therefore I chose lubuntu :D
[01:49] <MrChrisDruif> aplay bash?
[01:49] <MrChrisDruif> Meh.... "aplay /path/to/wav/or.mp3"
[01:51] <MrChrisDruif> Otherwise...sudo apt-get install aplay ofc....but there must be better audioplayer for terminal
[02:21] <jmarsden> MrChrisDruif: cmus is one possibility
[02:22] <MrChrisDruif> jmarsden: esing was looking for a terminal audioplayer...if I remember it still tomorrow...I'll tell him :)
[02:24] <jmarsden> Sounds good.  BTW I did apt-cache search mp3 | sort |less and then read the list to see any entries that mentioned terminal or cli or curses :)
[02:27] <JackyAlcine> MrChrisDruif: how about the Sox library? it has a 'play <filename>' app.
[02:28] <MrChrisDruif> Alright....like aplay?
[06:56] <psyklown> i was wondering if i could get a little help getting my apps to autostart or just a really basic tutorial will suffice.
[06:56] <bioterror> on login?
[06:57] <psyklown> yeah it says to make a .desktop file and so forth, but im not sure what that is or where my autostart folder is.
[06:57] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ
[06:57] <bioterror> there's at the bottom
[06:57] <bioterror> I've made a good example
[06:58] <bioterror> should work like a charm
[07:05] <psyklown> cp /usr/share/applications/urxvtd.desktop ~/.config/autostart/   do i insert the name of the application in there some where? im a bit confused
[07:05] <bioterror> replace that urxvtd what ever you're needing
[07:05] <bioterror> ofcourse
[07:08] <psyklown> it is saying there is no such file or directory.
[07:08] <psyklown> sorry. really new to linux
[07:09] <bioterror> which program you're trying to load
[07:10] <psyklown> i would like compiz and emerald. i dont use gnome just because it is too slow and i like the lubuntu. i know its weird :(
[07:11] <bioterror> you might have to make yourself compiz.desktop and emerald.desktop if those are not found from /usr/share/applications/
[07:11] <bioterror> you can make them to .config/autostart
[07:12] <psyklown> alright that sounds good. im not good with "make to" so the ".desktop" is a hidden file right?
[07:12] <bioterror> nope
[07:12] <bioterror> it's something.desktop
[07:13] <bioterror> that's in the FAQ too
[07:13] <bioterror> there's a link to documentation about .desktop -files
[07:23] <psyklown> i guess i did something wrong bio
[07:23] <bioterror> what did you do then
[07:25] <psyklown> i figured the only thing i would need to edit was the name and the exec which was both "emerald" then i inserted the name in the appropriate places. it didnt start on login
[07:29] <psyklown> ill be back bio. see if i missed something
[07:34] <bioterror> did you now get it working
[07:34] <psyklown> no. i feel stupid :(
[07:34] <bioterror> do you have those two activated in that something
[07:34] <psyklown> it is in my autostart, but i guess i just went wrong in the making of the file
[07:35] <bioterror> I cant access that FAQ from here, for a mystical reason
[07:35] <psyklown> do have them activated in that?
[07:36] <bioterror> read the faq
[07:36] <bioterror> there's explaned that you have to activate the autostart from the menu
[07:36] <psyklown> yeah thats what i said. i made sure it was selected to autostart
[07:37] <bioterror> in terminal
[07:37] <bioterror> which emerald
[07:37] <bioterror> which compiz
[07:37] <bioterror> and add the lines to exec
[07:40] <psyklown> so i add usr/bin/emerald to exec?
[07:41] <bioterror> it starts always with /
[07:41] <bioterror> /usr/bin/emerald
[07:41] <psyklown> oh yeah sorry
[07:45] <psyklown> alright so /usr/bin/emerald should be the only thing in exec and that should execute the "emerald command"
[07:46] <psyklown> im gonna give it a try
[07:47]  * jmarsden wonders why psyklown can't stay on IRC while editing a small text file?  Something seems odd about that to me.
[07:47] <bioterror> he tests that by logging out and in
[07:47] <bioterror> reni raus
[07:47] <bioterror> rein raus ;)
[07:48] <jmarsden> Would be much more sane to test by clicking on the .desktop file, wouldn't it?  Then when that works, test autorunning it?
[07:48] <bioterror> well, it would be too easy
[07:48] <jmarsden> :)
[07:48] <bioterror> it doesnt have that feeling of doing something
[08:05] <psyklown> my god i finally got it working
[08:07] <bioterror> I hope you have now a satisfied feeling
[08:10] <psyklown> lol yeah. well when i first that that command "sudo nano /usr/share/applications/emerald.desktop" it was just a blank file and i thought i had to make one. so i made one and then copied it over it didnt work. this was with emerald. so i used that same command with compiz and i actually got a file with text. i copied it over and i think it activates emerald too
[08:11] <bioterror> seems like you learned alot ;)
[08:11] <psyklown> lol yeah. that i cant make a working executable for autostart
[08:14] <bioterror> but you get those two autostart now?
[08:14] <bioterror> and you have a 3D lubuntu desktop? ;)
[08:15] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[08:15] <bioterror> seems like you have a new problem, kristian-aalborg? ;)
[08:15] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror: what?
[08:16] <bioterror> you usally join when you have something to ask ;)
[08:16] <kristian-aalborg> is that wrong?
[08:16] <bioterror> nope
[08:16] <psyklown> bioterror yes i did get them to autostart. very content :)
[08:18] <kristian-aalborg> I also help when I can, as opposed to calling people trolls...
[08:18] <kristian-aalborg> would anyone have tried Lubuntu on a Thinkpad circa 2002-2005... it seems like it would go down very well
[08:19] <bioterror> T40, T60
[08:19] <bioterror> does it satisfy you
[08:19] <kristian-aalborg> something with about 1.5 Ghz and 1 gig of ram
[08:19] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror: shall we bury the hatchet?
[08:19] <bioterror> my wife is running lubuntu all the time on her T40p
[08:20] <bioterror> everything is okay as long as you dont have to deal with broadcom chipsets
[08:20] <psyklown> lol yeah i have the wretched broadcom
[08:24] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, but I can tell you that T series thinkpads have always worked well with *nixes
[08:25] <bioterror> with R-series I have no experience, X -series are too working well
[08:25] <kristian-aalborg> IBM likes linux and are serious about standards
[08:25] <bioterror> mostly the problems are with graphics
[08:26] <kristian-aalborg> I think that goes for any graphics card manufacturer, more or less
[08:26] <kristian-aalborg> I'm not going to need 3d, I think
[08:27] <kristian-aalborg> how's surfing on the T40?
[08:28] <bioterror> fine
[08:28] <kristian-aalborg> flash is okay?
[08:28] <bioterror> comes from the restricted
[08:28]  * kristian-aalborg hates flash as much as the next guy, but it's everywhere 
[08:28] <bioterror> and I've got propietary java from the partner repo
[08:28] <kristian-aalborg> yes, I was thinking about the rendering
[08:28] <bioterror> my wife plays some games at facebook
[08:29] <bioterror> some may be a little laggy
[08:29] <bioterror> but youtube works well for example
[08:29] <kristian-aalborg> the 2g surf I put lubuntu on can't play youtube
[08:32] <bioterror> psyklown, you got all the window borders working too without a problem?
[08:32] <psyklown> bioterror do you mean emerald?
[08:32] <bioterror> yeah
[08:33] <bioterror> do I remember right, that it requires some "themes"
[08:33] <psyklown> yeah i think whenever i got compiz to autostart it starts emerald too like they start together for some reason. even though i dont think i technically got emerald to autostart
[08:34] <bioterror> it can be possible that compiz needs emerald and it launches it
[08:34] <bioterror> it was like years ago when I played with those
[08:34] <bioterror> as they were cool n hip ;)
[08:35] <psyklown> yeah i just use it because lubuntu seems a bit dull graphically. this gives my laptop a more elegant look when i add the themes and such
[08:36] <bioterror> yeah, now you can show it to your windows friends ;)
[08:37] <psyklown> lol well i use windows too and all my friends are gamers so they really arent impressed by themes. we use high end graphics for gaming, but it does look nice.
[08:40] <kristian-aalborg> box crashed, sorry
[08:41] <psyklown> is there a 64 bit 10.04 lubuntu?
[08:42] <bioterror> only if you make installation from mini.iso
[08:42] <psyklown> ah. okay
[08:42] <jmarsden> bioterror: Is there a technical reason for that, or just that no-one created a 64but Lubuntu ISO image yet?
[08:43] <jmarsden> s/64but/64bit/
[08:43] <bioterror> jmarsden, I think no one
[08:43] <bioterror> and seems like 32bit packages are priority #1
[08:44] <bioterror> I tried 10.10 64bit and it didnt work as well as 32bit, then I upgraded to 11.04 as 64bit and I decided that I'll use arch from now on as my desktop computer ;)
[08:45] <jmarsden> bioterror: Understood, but I have a big beefy 64bit workstations I am typing on... maybe I can build a 64bit Lubuntu ISO one day.  But not today, it is approaching 1am here and I should go to bed.  Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS here on the main workstation.  Lubuntu and all kinds of other things in virtual machines :)
[08:45] <jmarsden> 10.04.1 I mean, 10.04.2 is not out yet :)
[08:45] <psyklown> having broadcom i have had a hard time with linux. if i use 10.04 ubuntu and lubuntu recognize my firmware. if i upgrade to any other version. my firmware is no longer recognize. the weirdest thing.
[08:46] <psyklown> recognized*
[08:47] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror: have you experienced "flexing" problems with the T40?
[08:47] <jmarsden> It's best to research Linux compatibility before getting your credit card out :)
[08:47] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, you mean that fan is keeping noises?
[08:48] <jmarsden> bioterror: I think he means his fan is full of dirt and stops and so his machine overheats.
[08:48] <bioterror> that's normal :D
[08:48] <bioterror> get yourself another and replace the fan
[08:48] <bioterror> remove keyboard and so on
[08:48] <bioterror> it's easy on older stinkpads
[08:50] <psyklown> well im out. thanks for the help bio
[08:50] <bioterror> np
[08:50] <bioterror> one satisfied customer ;)
[08:51] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror: I heard on #thinkpad-forum that the T40 has a tendency to have components go loose on the motherboard
[08:51] <bioterror> jmarsden, but the problem with 64bit is really that packages and stuff aint as up-to-date what seems to be with 32bit
[08:51] <jmarsden> bioterror: Can you explain?  They are build from the same sources, they should be exactly as up to date!
[08:52] <jmarsden> When I upload a source package to my PPA it gets built for both i386 and amd64...
[08:57] <bioterror> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxappearance/+bug/690318 still nothing has happened
[09:02] <jmarsden> bioterror: That's only six weeks old!  I ahve bugs that are two years old still in LP :)
[09:11] <bioterror> jmarsden, yeah, it's not important. as 32bit doesnt have this problem....
[09:12] <kristian-aalborg> bioterror: so, all in all you'd recommend the T40?
[09:12] <jmarsden> No, you just need to be more patient :)  I have bugs that are not 32bit or 64bit specific that have waited MUCH longer than six weeks :)
[09:13] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, or T60, T61, T42, but I prefer that little p -letter ;)
[09:13] <kristian-aalborg> as in pentium?
[09:13] <bioterror> kristian-aalborg, that means that panel is 1400x1050 ;)
[09:13] <bioterror> and usually bt and wifi
[09:13] <kristian-aalborg> ah
[09:14] <bioterror> jmarsden, I've got some problems with chemistry in my brains, I'm not at good with that kind of patience ;)
[09:14] <jmarsden> bioterror: Then you should just work on fixing the bug yourself and adding the fix to the bug report :)
[09:15] <kristian-aalborg> I don't use bt, but wifi is essential... will have to ask seller if it's included
[09:15] <bioterror> yeah, that's the thing what FOSS is about
[12:46] <leszek> hi
[12:47] <MrChrisDruif> Hai leszek :)
[16:11] <gandsnut> Would somebody direct me to the .MD5 checksum for the current release of Lubuntu's .ISO?
[16:12] <gandsnut> I am at a loss to find it on the web site
[16:17] <leszek> gandsnut: it should be here in the release announcement: http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1010-released
[16:25] <gandsnut> thanks
[16:34] <hblount> hi. i tethered my lg ally smartphone (android) to my laptop (10.10) for mobile broadband with an app "easytether". i can browse web, do irc, everything but make torrents connect. any idea what i can do to fix?
[16:54] <hblount> anyone know how i can get my horizontal scroll to work for my acer laptop?
[16:58] <leszek> hblount: for tethering you need to open the ports for torrent
[17:01] <leszek> hblount: for the touchpad there is a command line tool called synclient take a look at its manpage there should be an option for switching that on
[17:02] <leszek> hblount: synclient HorizEdgeScroll=1 should fix the problem
[17:03] <hblount> cool
[17:03] <leszek> if you want it to have it default you need create a autostart entry for this, please take a look at the wiki on how to do that
[17:17] <hblount> i am trying to use the program nicotine but everytime i start it, it asks me to choose download folder again. it says "can't create directory, error, permission denied" how do i fix this?
[17:18] <hblount> also, how do you open ports with my tether smartphone?
[17:19] <hblount> leszek, i tried to google "lubuntu autostart wiki" but i cant find it. what do i search for?
[17:24] <leszek> hblount: I don't know how to open that ports on your smartphone
[17:25] <hblount> ok. do you know about permission denied error for nicotine program?
[17:28] <hblount> i can't find autostart wiki on google
[17:29] <leszek> nicotine ? I don't know the app
[17:29] <hblount> fileshare app
[17:29] <leszek> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ
[17:39] <hblount> nicotine is a filesharing app. i have to choose download folder every time i open and it says error "can't create directory, error, permission denied"
[17:43] <hblount> the command on the wiki doesnt work for me
[17:44] <hblount> cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/applications/urxvtd.desktop': No such file or directory
[17:47] <abualijawad> hi
[17:47] <abualijawad> how to fix missing plugins in chromium browser for lubuntu
[17:53] <hblount> how do i make a command autostart when i turn on computer?
[17:59] <mark76> Is this for Lubuntu?
[18:01] <RaceCondition> will Lubuntu run fast enough on a PIII 768MHz with 128MB RAM?
[18:02] <mark76> Nah
[18:04] <RaceCondition> mark76: no?
[18:04] <mark76> I'm pretty sure it won't. But I could be wrong
[18:05] <RaceCondition> how about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/LucidLynx ?
[18:05] <RaceCondition> "To use the graphical installer from the live-cd, you need at least 160 MB of memory." << can I choose a text based installed?
[18:05] <RaceCondition> (it's funny though that the installer requires more memory than the OS itself, and ironic)
[18:08] <mark76> I imagine you could. Though I've never heard of one
[18:09] <mark76> But there must be an alternative install for Lubuntu
[18:09] <bioterror> yes there is
[18:09] <mark76> Yay
[18:09] <bioterror> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/AlternateInstall
[18:11] <RaceCondition> oh, cool...
[18:13] <RaceCondition> hmm, download link broken
[18:13] <RaceCondition> is that the newest version of Lubuntu though? 10.10
[18:16] <mark76> Yes
[18:16] <RaceCondition> nice
[18:20] <hblount> how do i make a command autostart on bootup?
[18:26] <hblount> i tried "cp /usr/share/applications/urxvtd.desktop ~/.config/autostart/"
[18:26] <hblount> error:
[18:26] <hblount> cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/applications/urxvtd.desktop': No such file or directory
[18:26] <bioterror> it's just example
[18:26] <bioterror> ;)
[18:27] <mark76> Have you tried cp /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart /home/you/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu?
[18:27] <hblount> damn
[18:27] <bioterror> mark76, what?
[18:28] <hblount> ok i want to make "synclient HorizEdgeScroll=1" execute when i startup
[18:28] <hblount> how do i do that?
[18:28] <bioterror> you make synclient.desktop
[18:28] <bioterror> to the .config/autostart/ folder
[18:29] <bioterror> and that line is the "exec" line
[18:33] <hblount> i dont see autostart folder in .config
[18:34] <hblount> i see lxpanel, lxterminal, other stuff
[18:44] <bioterror> hblount, I guess you can mkdir it
[18:46] <hblount> ok i make autostart folder. how to i make the command work
[18:48] <bioterror> ffffuuuu
[18:48] <bioterror> I removed
[18:48] <bioterror> my file
[18:48] <bioterror> :D
[18:51] <bioterror> hblount, http://pastebin.com/PfN4TSpp
[18:51] <bioterror> I cant make this any more easy for you
[18:53] <hblount> so i just type that in terminal?
[18:54] <bioterror> you make something.desktop into your .config/autostart
[18:54] <bioterror> and then you start Desktop Session Settings from the menu's preferences as the FAQ says
[18:56] <hblount> what do i start in desktop session settings
[18:58] <bioterror> sorry, but I really cant move the mouse cursor for you
[18:58] <bioterror> how hard I wish I could
[18:59] <hblount> yes, i am noob. but you are also poor explainer and get impatient because your instructions arent clear for noob
[18:59] <hblount> thanks anyway
[18:59] <hblount> everyone else that helped me hear crystal clear
[18:59] <hblount> here*
[19:02] <bioterror> maybe someone else gives him some help next time instead of me
[21:47] <gnewb> Is there a GUI program to make the mouse larger?
[22:01] <bioterror> oh
[22:01] <bioterror> gnewb, should be
[22:01] <bioterror> I just came to my lappy to check it out
[22:02] <gnewb> bioterror: Thank you, I tried a few from the Synaptic thing, no such animal, yet
[22:02] <bioterror> lxappearance is the program and uses name Customize look and feel in the preferences
[22:02] <gnewb> bioterror: Thank you, fetching now.
[22:02] <bioterror> lxappearance is default program
[22:03] <gnewb> bioterror: where is that located?
[22:04] <bioterror> Wed00:02 <bioterror> lxappearance is the program and uses name Customize look and feel in the preferences
[22:07] <gnewb> ok, thank you, is CLI