[00:41] <jono> AlanBell, do you have access to ubuntu-news?
[00:41] <pleia2> jono: you're welcome to join #ubuntu-news and ask when you need something posted, we don't bite :)
[00:42] <jono> pleia2, aha!
[00:44] <Pici> yes they do.
[00:44] <jcastro> jono: the footer is wrong
[00:44] <jcastro> you seem to have added a seperate footer instead of using the existing one
[00:47] <jono> jcastro, yeah the main one is not editable in WP
[00:47] <jono> they will need to hack the theme
[00:47] <jono> I will do that when the diversity page is complete
[00:47] <jcastro> I thought I saw it the other day
[00:47] <jono> and file an RT
[00:47]  * jcastro digs
[00:49] <jcastro> found it
[00:49] <jcastro> jono: Appearance -> Thematic Options
[00:51] <jono> jcastro, yeah but try and edit it ;-)
[00:51] <jono> it requires system level access
[00:52] <jcastro> oh
[00:52]  * jcastro whistles
[00:52] <jono> :-)
[01:27] <JanC> jono: the developer tests you want to do (with e.g. akk, as you asked in #ubuntu-women), can they be done by other people somehow?  (you know I'm asking because of FOSDEM ;) )
[02:03] <pleia2> jono: I have another name for you! jack deslip (jdeslip - he's online now in #ubuntu-us-ca) over in berkeley, he did a talk on pygtk/Quickly at code camp last year and he's even free on tuesday during the day :)
[02:03] <pleia2> err, Jack Deslipppe :)
[02:03] <pleia2> he-p
[02:03] <pleia2> -p
[02:04] <pleia2> his name is hard
[02:04] <pleia2> anyway, he's the berkeleylug leader too
[02:22] <paultag> jcastro: thanks for the loven, dude
[02:22]  * paultag mutters
[02:22] <jcastro> I am resisting just laughing at you. :)
[02:22] <paultag> jcastro: dude, I'm *so* trashing your next post
[02:22] <paultag> :P
[02:23] <jcastro> after reading that I get the feeling I can sell you the brooklyn bridge
[02:23]  * pleia2 chuckles
[02:24] <paultag> jcastro: dude, you're the first one to make fun of freetards and use twitter because it works better
[02:24] <paultag> jcastro: suck it :)
[02:24] <jcastro> yeah but I won't complain if twitter goes away
[02:24] <jcastro> you knew the limitations and still bought it
[02:24] <jcastro> that's called buyer's remorse
[02:24] <paultag> naw, it's called a shitty decision
[02:24] <jcastro> must. resist. ohio. joke ...
[02:25] <paultag> hahahaha
[02:25] <paultag> So... who wants to buy me an android tablet?
[02:27] <paultag> bueller?
[02:27] <paultag> bueller?
[02:27] <pleia2> derp
[02:27] <paultag> :)
[07:57] <dholbach> good morning
[08:13] <duanedesign> good morning dholbach
[08:14] <dholbach> hi duanedesign
[08:32] <nigelb> morning folks
[08:35] <dpm> hey dholbach, hey duanedesign, nigelb
[08:45] <duanedesign> howdy nigelb dpm
[08:46] <duanedesign> we are getting hammered by a winter storm here. Supposed to be the worst in over 10 years
[08:48] <nigelb> hola dpm, duanedesign :)
[10:23] <popey> dholbach: seen we've had plenty of loco responses now
[10:23] <dholbach> popey, on the contacts list?
[10:27] <popey> yeah
[10:27] <dholbach> yeah, a good start
[10:27] <dholbach> like 25 of 180 :-P
[10:27] <popey> heh
[10:27] <popey> good luck getting the other 180
[10:27] <popey> -25
[10:27] <popey> :)
[10:28] <dholbach> yeah, no worries
[10:29] <dholbach> it just shows that there's a huge diversity how teams are governed and that's fine - AFAICS most teams said that they have the same level of activity or more and that makes me happy :)
[10:30] <popey> :)
[10:39] <Pendulum> oh look, it's Tuesday therefore it's snowing... again :-/
[10:52] <czajkowski> yup a big thing is how varied teams operate
[10:52] <czajkowski> rather interesting to see how it's done
[11:53] <duanedesign> Pendulum: yeah it is coming down here (snow)
[11:54] <Pendulum> duanedesign: we've gotten hit either tuesday or wednesday every week this year, I think
[11:55] <nigelb> snow tuesday? :P
[11:55] <Pendulum> practically
[11:55] <nigelb> heh
[11:55] <Pendulum> last week it was a Wednesday night so a little different (schools were still closed Thursday, though)
[11:56] <Pendulum> and we've had several Friday or Saturday snows as well
[11:59] <Pendulum> the real problem though is that it's not melting in between so roofs are collapsing
[12:04] <duanedesign> oh no
[12:04] <nigelb> You folks should talk to hypatia and gpc
[12:04] <nigelb> pretty sure they've faced this before :p
[12:05] <duanedesign> New Natty kernel is not working well for me (wiFi)
[12:08] <Pendulum> nigelb: it's people who have houses or buildings with flat roofs. A lot of my friends are actualy going up on their roofs to knock the snow down. People in areas where they get 3ft of snow every year tend to not build with flat roofs ;)
[12:08] <Pendulum> we can generally cope with a fair amount of snow, but this is now the worst winter in my memory
[12:09] <Pendulum> (I'm just glad that our roof is not flat because I have no way of knocking snow off!)
[12:10] <nigelb> Pendulum: heh, now you get to brag!
[12:10] <nigelb> 'Remember that snow storm of 2011? It feels like decades ago!'
[12:10] <Pendulum> haha
[12:10] <Pendulum> part of the problem is that it's not just one storm and there's not enough time to clear everything
[12:10] <nigelb> 'and the snow was so bad, my friends had to get on the roof and knock it off!'
[12:10] <Pendulum> :)
[12:11] <Pendulum> I did ring a mate a couple days ago and he was like, one sec, I'm just getting off the roof
[12:11] <nigelb> hehe
[12:11] <nigelb> Taking a phone while clearing ice off the roof is extremely hazardous I'd think
[12:12] <nigelb> *talking on
[12:12] <Pendulum> I would think so too
[12:12] <Pendulum> I mean, I understand bringing it up with him that way he has it in case of emergency
[12:12] <Pendulum> but I"m not sure I'd have answered it if I were him (unless it was hands free, which is possible)
[12:13] <nigelb> :)
[12:13] <duanedesign> Pendulum: where abouts are you?
[12:13]  * duanedesign has a hard time remembering where everyone is from :P
[12:13] <Pendulum> duanedesign: northern Connecticut
[12:14] <nigelb> duanedesign: aren't you from OK?
[12:14] <nigelb> I generally have a broad idea where everyone is from at least for time zone
[12:15] <duanedesign> nigelb: yes. Tulsa, OK
[12:16] <duanedesign> yeeehaw
[12:16] <duanedesign> Pendulum: so you are right between Boston and New York
[12:17] <Pendulum> yep
[12:17] <Pendulum> pretty much exactly as the crow flies
[12:17] <Pendulum> (which means it takes 45 minutes longer to get into NYC than it does to get to Boston if you drive ;) )
[12:18]  * duanedesign nods
[12:18] <nigelb> Did anyone hear what Al Jazeera did about their videos lately?
[12:20] <nigelb> Since most american networks wouldn't carry it they just licensed the content as creative commons license.  Brilliant!
[12:32] <duanedesign> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/01/some-weekend-work-that-will-hopefully.html
[12:32] <nigelb> I read that, brilliant again
[12:32] <nigelb> *and* there are people doing live translation of that audio into english text
[12:38] <duanedesign> nigelb: http://cc.aljazeera.net/
[12:39] <nigelb> duanedesign: that's what I was talking about with creative commons :)
[12:39] <duanedesign> nigelb: pretty neat
[12:40] <daker> http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2011/1/31/14/enhanced-buzz-18816-1296503523-35.jpg <=Awesome (Geek)
[12:44] <AlanBell> clever
[12:45] <AlanBell> curious sign in the background - now open in your pants
[13:11] <nigelb> daker: hahah
[13:13] <daker> LoL
[15:42] <jono> hey all
[15:42] <cjohnston> mornin jono
[15:42] <jono> hey cjohnston
[15:42] <Pici> Howdy
[15:43] <jono> hey Pici
[15:45] <Pendulum> hiya jono
[15:45] <nigelb> o/
[15:47] <jono> hey Pendulum, nigelb :-)
[15:51] <nigelb> AlanBell: around?
[15:56] <duanedesign> 'lo jono. read about your school giving you an award or some form of recognition. that is great.
[15:56] <jono> thanks duanedesign :-)
[15:56] <jono> I was pretty stoked when I read it
[15:59] <jono> dpm, call?
[15:59] <dpm> jono, yep
[15:59] <dpm> mumble, skype?
[15:59] <jono> lets do skype
[15:59] <dpm> ok
[16:00]  * jcastro mumbles to himself
[16:00] <cjohnston> heh
[16:04] <dholbach> hey jono
[16:07] <jono> hey dholbach
[16:08] <AlanBell> nigelb: sure
[16:08] <nigelb> AlanBell: got time for a PM? :)
[16:08] <AlanBell> any time
[16:20] <Pici> !info vrms
[16:23] <Pici> Just testing the bot, which seems to be failing :/
[16:40] <jono> dholbach, I am free now, you want to start early?
[16:40] <dholbach> jono, do you think you can give me 5 min?
[16:41] <jono> dholbach, sure!
[16:41] <dholbach> super
[17:12] <mhall119> jcastro: what's up?
[17:13] <nigelb> mhall119: I think he just wants you around when he curses summit
[17:13] <jcastro> oh hey, I should have docs and an example Place on Monday-ish
[17:13] <jcastro> actually, probably Tuesdayish
[17:15] <mhall119> Place as in Unity Place?
[17:41] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day - see you all tomorrow
[17:47] <jono> pleia2, what is Jack's nick on IRC again?
[17:47] <pleia2> jono: jdeslip
[17:48] <jono> pleia2, #ubuntu-california is invite only?
[17:48] <pleia2> jono: that's because it forwards to #ubuntu-us-ca, which you're already in
[17:48] <jcastro> mhall119: yeah, Unity Place
[17:48] <nigelb> us-ca?
[17:48] <jono> pleia2, ahh!
[17:49] <jcastro> mhall119: so I had an idea for one
[17:49] <nigelb> darn, lyz is faster
[17:49] <jcastro> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Unity/Places/Ideas
[17:49] <jcastro> there are some others
[17:49] <jcastro> but directly related to what you work on
[17:49] <jcastro> we could do like a "LoCo Place"
[17:49] <jcastro> that connects to the loco directory
[17:50] <nigelb> \o/
[17:50] <jcastro> so you just type "ubuntu hour" and it returns all the ubuntu hours coming up
[17:50] <nigelb> that sounds like fun
[17:50] <jcastro> or "ohio" and it returns the page for that loco, etc.
[17:51] <nigelb> jcastro: is there documentation on how to build that?
[17:51] <jcastro> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Unity/Places/
[17:51] <jcastro> but it's out of date, the guys will have it updated early next week though
[17:51] <jcastro> once they get A2 out the door
[17:52] <jcastro> it should be easy for people to just make all sorts of little web places
[17:52] <jcastro> the example one is a youtube place
[17:52] <nigelb> I could help with this :)
[17:53] <jcastro> check out the Ideas page
[17:53] <jcastro> so basically, you search for things
[17:53] <jcastro> and it returns a thumbnail and text
[17:53] <jcastro> so an amazon place would be like so
[17:53] <nigelb> so, we'd need to expose an api for LD
[17:53] <jcastro> you hit super, type in "girl who kicked hornet..."
[17:53] <nigelb> and query that api from unity and display the results
[17:53] <jcastro> and then the dash populates with books from amazon
[17:54] <jcastro> when you click on the book icon, it just opens a tab in the browser for you to that place
[17:54] <nigelb> a lot of the underlying work would be done by unity?
[17:54] <jcastro> libunity does it all
[17:54] <nigelb> can you poke me when you have an updated documentation?
[17:54] <jcastro> and there's zeitgeist in there somewhere
[17:54] <jcastro> oh I will. :)
[17:54] <nigelb> I'd love to work on this from the LD end and from the unity end
[17:55] <jcastro> I am just telling you now so you can get your head chugging
[17:55] <jcastro> and also, any ideas for Places people want here would be awesome: https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Unity/Places/Ideas
[17:56] <nigelb> wow, a lot of them are interesting
[17:56] <nigelb> ask Ubuntu one for instance
[17:56] <jcastro> those are just Seif and me's ideas
[17:56] <jcastro> I need more brains thinking crazier stuff
[17:56] <nigelb> jcastro: google calender
[17:56] <jcastro> yeah, the  problem is
[17:57] <jcastro> for natty they're very simple
[17:57] <jcastro> icons and text
[17:57] <jcastro> yes, I too had dreams of an awesome calendar overlay
[17:57] <jcastro> "Red Wings Place", etc.
[17:57] <nigelb> it would be so cool to have our calender and meeting displayed from unity synced with gcal
[17:57] <jcastro> right, but that's so N+1,+2,+3, etc.
[17:58] <nigelb> Ah, but still
[17:58] <nigelb> when we do get there, it would rock :D
[17:59] <nigelb> mhall119: we don't expose an api for LD, do we?
[17:59] <jcastro> also
[17:59] <jcastro> it might be worth doing an easy one for a service that has an API first
[17:59] <jcastro> so like amazon or netflix or something
[17:59] <nigelb> yeah, I'm drooling at the amazon one
[17:59] <nigelb> let the docs get updated and I want to try and get to it
[18:07] <AlanBell> it all seems very consumer oriented
[18:10] <mhall119> nigelb: LD has an API, yes
[18:11] <nigelb> mhall119: ooooh
[18:11]  * nigelb looks for it
[18:11] <mhall119> nigelb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoDirectory/API
[18:12] <mhall119> the docs may be a little out dates
[18:12] <mhall119> and LD 0.3.0 will include services for meetings and agenda items too
[18:13] <nigelb> mhall119: Neat!
[18:13] <nigelb> dont mind the docs, I can RTFS :)
[18:14] <mhall119> nigelb: there's also https://launchpad.net/loco-directory-clients
[18:14] <mhall119> some preliminary client-side libraries for it
[18:14] <mhall119> and docs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoDirectory/API/Clients
[18:15] <nigelb> \o/
[18:16] <AlanBell> jono: re ubuntu-news, nothing to do with me
[18:16] <jono> AlanBell, np
[18:18] <AlanBell> ubuntu-for-all which has been mentioned a few times recently is on my list of things I need to start up
[18:22] <jono> czajkowski, howdy!
[18:22] <jono> what is the current status of "set up a frontdesk for loco + developer interaction" ?
[18:23]  * jono follows up on burndown
[18:23] <jono> duanedesign, could you take a look at your two items on http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/canonical-community.html and I will respect you forever :-)
[18:27] <duanedesign> jono: good idea. I sure will
[18:27] <jono> duanedesign, thanks, pal!
[18:28] <jono> nigelb, what is the status of "write script that shows which loco team members of ~ubuntu-dev, ~ubuntu-bugcontrol are part of"
[18:29] <nigelb> jono: incidentally, im workin on that right now
[18:29] <nigelb> should be ready by weekend
[18:29] <jono> nigelb, awesome!
[19:21] <jcastro> hey jono
[19:21] <jcastro> hey jono
[19:21]  * jcastro makes explosion sounds
[19:22] <jcastro> ONE MORE DONE.
[19:23] <jono> jcastro, nice :-)
[19:23]  * jcastro takes 10
[19:23] <jcastro> this report was brutal today, lots of turnover on bitesizers
[19:23] <jcastro> (a good thing)
[19:27] <czajkowski> jono: stil working on it. hope to have some movement on it in next two weeks
[19:28] <jono> thanks czajkowski!
[19:29] <czajkowski> jono: np
[19:40] <mhall119> jcastro: I need VirtualBox 4 to run Unity, right?
[19:41] <jcastro> yeah
[19:42]  * mhall119 downloads
[19:42] <jcastro> I don't recommend anything today, X transition, unity session issues, etc.
[19:42] <jcastro> it's not a good day to die </worf>
[19:42] <jcastro> DL it but zsync it like tomorrow or thursday
[19:42] <paultag> k'plah
[19:42]  * daker is using Unity-2D
[19:42]  * czajkowski bangs her head on the table over mpt and launchpad discussions today 
[19:42] <czajkowski> sigh
[19:43] <jcastro> czajkowski: ooh link!
[19:43] <paultag> czajkowski: don't even send a single email, missy
[19:43] <paultag> czajkowski: I've avoided this like the goddamn plauge
[19:43] <jcastro> daker: yeah I need to do that, I'm in some sort of half broken metacity hell right now
[19:43] <czajkowski> https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-users/msg06214.html
[19:43] <czajkowski> how to make me peed off in one tick
[19:43] <czajkowski> sigh
[19:43] <czajkowski> paultag: change nick to crankytab
[19:43] <jcastro> oh
[19:44] <jcastro> that's not as drama as I was hoping
[19:45] <paultag> czajkowski: not yet
[19:45] <paultag> czajkowski: if I wrote an email back, you'd know haw bad that'd get
[19:46] <czajkowski> kinda frustating as Curtis and Mat both understod the change they made on LP was effecting us, not upsetting us >:(
[19:46] <AlanBell> what was the point of the change in the first place?
[19:46] <paultag> czajkowski: trust me, I have a whole rant ready in my head if they push me  out too far
[19:46] <paultag> czajkowski: and it's not nice
[19:46] <czajkowski> paultag: before you rant pm me ok :)
[19:47] <czajkowski> you and crankyness tends not to go down well
[19:47] <AlanBell> if you manage a team with assets and you don't want open teams to have access to it, then don't add open teams
[19:47] <czajkowski> paultag: let me remind you of the reply to digest mail I had to fix
[19:47] <paultag> oh yeah, I forgot about taht
[19:47] <paultag> that was fun
[19:47] <czajkowski> so no getting cranky as I'm away for the next days and cant smooth things over my dear ok :)
[19:47] <paultag> czajkowski: deal :)
[19:52] <daker> anyone can give the instructions to upgrade using an iso (without burning it) ?
[20:02] <jcastro> Pici: pleia2: I am confused: http://ubuntu-news.org/2011/02/01/new-irc-council-members/
[20:02] <jcastro> It's not obvious to me who is on the council, is it just the people in the lp team?
[20:03] <pleia2> jcastro: yes, Pici's term runs out in 10 days
[20:03] <jcastro> oh I see
[20:03] <jcastro> Pici: nice long run dude, are you having a party?
[20:03] <pleia2> I would, that's a stressful council to be on, freedom! ;)
[20:08] <topyli> meh, lunchtime sudoku substitute!
[20:11] <topyli> i was going to add a smiley, but it was becoming too complex
[20:38] <jono> jcastro, facebooking your post
[20:38] <jono> good work
[20:39] <jcastro> cando just had a brilliant idea, i feel stupid for not doing it in the first place
[20:39] <jcastro> http://launchpad.net/~unity-bitesizers
[21:04] <mhall119> jcastro: is there a python library for Unity?
[21:04] <mhall119> or do I have to use straight DBus?
[21:04] <jcastro> dbus
[21:04] <mhall119> :(
[21:04] <jcastro> afaik so far
[21:04] <jcastro> I can get you an answer on that tomorrow
[21:04] <mhall119> I'd appreciate it, otherwise I'll end up writing one, and it'd be a shame to duplicate effort
[21:05] <mhall119> I won't be starting on anything until Alpha2 is out and Unity/Xorg is working right
[21:08] <czajkowski> http://twitter.com/#!/segphault/status/32543894021345280
[21:13] <jcastro> heh
[21:39] <mhall119> my co-worker has a Thinkpad and the recent kernel update stopped his suspend from working
[21:40] <mhall119> he was just complaining about it
[21:57] <daker> Wa3 kim0_
[21:57] <kim0_> daker: Hi man
[21:58] <daker> i missed you kim0_
[21:58]  * kim0_ hugs everyone around
[21:58] <kim0_> daker: thanks man, same here
[21:59] <daker> i was like a crasy, i was pinging you everytime
[22:00] <kim0_> It was/is a stressful period indeed
[22:01] <kim0_> things are improving however
[22:01] <daker> kim0_, internet is back ?
[22:05] <paultag> yeah, heyya kim0_
[22:06] <paultag> kim0_: how are you? Hope you're well. Crazy stuff. You go, dude.
[22:06]  * kim0_ hugs paultag :)
[22:06]  * paultag hugs kim0_ 
[22:06]  * Pendulum hugs kim0_ 
[22:06] <kim0_> well it's not back yet
[22:06] <kim0_> I know someone at the isp :)
[22:06] <paultag> hahaha, that's awesome
[22:07] <kim0_> The president is giving in .. He accepted everything except leaving immediately
[22:07] <kim0_> It's quite a great victory so far
[22:07] <paultag> kim0_: I saw that, that's good news :)
[22:07] <jcastro> hi kim0_
[22:07] <jcastro> !!!!!!!
[22:07] <kim0_> wow :)
[22:07] <jcastro> awesome!
[22:07] <kim0_> jcastro: hey man
[22:07] <kim0_> missed ya
[22:07]  * jcastro high fives
[22:07] <paultag> kim0_: everyone in America is pretty stoked to see ya'll riot.
[22:07] <jcastro> me too
[22:08] <kim0_> yeah .. phew
[22:08] <kim0_> it's not quite over yet though
[22:08] <kim0_> since the people actually want him to leave right away
[22:08] <kim0_> I suppose it'll all end this week
[22:08] <Pendulum> yeah. It strikes me that the time until he does leave is going to be tough
[22:08] <paultag> for sure, but you've made the news ( and got America (finally) reading al jazeera )
[22:09] <jcastro> right, and given our government better ideas on how to ban the internet!
[22:09] <paultag> haha
[22:09] <kim0_> well the US figured out the internet kill switch thing on their own :P
[22:09] <paultag> yeah, that's for sure
[22:09] <paultag> kim0_: from what i've read, most of the IP resolution was going through a single ISP
[22:10] <paultag> in egypt
[22:10] <kim0_> I basically have http only access .. so can't read emails ...etc. Only back partially
[22:10] <paultag> and that's what let them kill it
[22:10] <paultag> kim0_: oh interesting...
[22:10] <paultag> kim0_: what about SSL?
[22:10] <kim0_> paultag: not really .. Egypt has 4 large class A ISPs .. and many smaller ones
[22:11] <daker> kim0, are you able to find food/bread ?
[22:11] <kim0_> killing the Internet happened at the BGP routing level .. i.e. no packet of any kind is able to get out .. trust me I tried :)
[22:11] <paultag> kim0_: http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/01/egypts-net-on-life-support.shtml
[22:12] <paultag> kim0_: that's what I've read up on -- that was the link I was going off of
[22:13] <paultag> kim0_: anyway, if you have SSL, I can see if we can work out some sort of port forward deal from one of my VPSs over 443
[22:13] <paultag> kim0_: as long as you run it through ssh, it should look close enough
[22:14] <kim0_> paultag: thanks man .. I'll try to see if this proxy supports CONNECT ..
[22:14] <paultag> let me know, man. I hate to see a hacker go without ssh
[22:14] <kim0_> Anyway, I hope I won't need this for more than a day or so
[22:15] <kim0_> daker: things are not that bad .. there is food ...etc .. You'd just have to wait for an hour to buy anything
[22:15] <kim0_> due to the long cashier queues .. in such times, all people tend to buy lots of things
[22:16] <daker> kim0, are you protesting ?
[22:18] <kim0_> not in the main area
[22:18] <kim0_> I'm however active in civil defense forces
[22:18] <paultag> kim0_: are you part of the group protecting people from the police?
[22:19] <daker> kim0, good
[22:19] <kim0_> from thiefs
[22:19] <paultag> ah
[22:19] <kim0_> one of the tactics the tyrant used, was to let thiefs/gangsters out on the street
[22:19] <kim0_> almost all prisons were open
[22:19] <kim0_> And police forces disappeared for two days ,, phew it was horrible
[22:19] <paultag> damn
[22:20] <paultag> kim0_: stay safe, dude.
[22:20] <daker> 17, 000 prisoner
[22:20] <kim0_> gun shots everywhere .. random shootings .. cars running stealing everything
[22:20] <kim0_> All young men got on the streets to protect their area
[22:20] <kim0_> things are better now however
[22:21] <kim0_> daker: you know too much :)
[22:21] <czajkowski> kim0_: you're ok
[22:21]  * czajkowski hugs kim0_ 
[22:21] <daker> kim0, thanks GOD
[22:21]  * kim0_ hugs czajkowski back 
[22:21] <kim0_> I really appreciate it
[22:21] <czajkowski> kim0_: glad to hear you are ok. Hope things improve, are you and your family ok
[22:22] <kim0_> Yeah, everyone I know is ok
[22:22] <kim0_> thanks
[22:22] <kim0_> just a horrible week however :)
[22:22] <Pendulum> kim0_: really glad that everyone you know is safe :)
[22:22] <czajkowski> kim0_: indeed
[22:22]  * kim0_ hugs Pendulum
[22:23] <kim0_> such a warm welcome .. thanks folks :)
[22:23] <paultag> kim0_: dude, you're fighting for what's right. Wish we were all so lucky :)
[22:23] <Pendulum> kim0_: you're part of the team! we worry about you :)
[22:24] <paultag> and the goverment was nice enough to cut all the teens away from facebook to rebel
[22:24] <AlanBell> kim0_: good to see you back
[22:24]  * kim0_ hugs AlanBell 
[22:25] <kim0_> paultag: they cut SMS, internet, Satellite channels, and phones for the first day
[22:25] <paultag> damn!
[22:25] <paultag> kim0_: Oh, I was wondering -- can you use a 56K line?
[22:25] <paultag> kim0_: to a server outside of -eg
[22:26] <kim0_> um, maybe .. I discovered my winmodem in the laptop doesn't really work yesterday when I got that french ISP that was listed on slashdot :)
[22:26] <paultag> ahh :)
[22:27] <kim0_> People wanted to do some kind of a "mesh network" but there was no practical solution
[22:27] <kim0_> a project to think about
[22:27] <paultag> yeah, I was thinking about that as well
[22:27] <paultag> it seems like it would be tough to secure as well as maintain a clean IP space
[22:28] <kim0_> it's probably not too easy indeed .. zero experience operating that
[22:29] <paultag> for sure. Not even to mention it'd be easy to find the nodes that are most critical and cause netsplits
[22:29] <kim0_> just wish we could sprinkly something to get all people connected to each other .. even without Internet connectivity
[22:29] <paultag> kim0_: +1
[22:30] <Martyn> well, I've got a number of ubuntu-based BBS's running in egypt now
[22:30] <Martyn> using good old UUCP and modems
[22:31] <paultag> oh interesting
[22:31] <Martyn> but it looks like ioerror and company will easily supersede it with wireless satellite and wifi soon
[22:32] <Martyn> it really sucks that Noor shut down too
[22:34] <kim0_> momento phone call
[22:50] <jcastro> kefgh2ty3q4ity32il4ughqekljghwerklghweriltuh2eqrlh
[22:50] <jcastro> ugh!
[22:50] <jcastro> why oh why did I put my stupid content on the wiki