[11:41] <CIA-4> ubiquity: evand * r4497 trunk/ (debian/changelog src/panel/panel.c): Don't show a resize grip on the panel.
[11:41] <CIA-4> ubiquity: evand * r4497 trunk/ (debian/changelog src/panel/panel.c): Don't show a resize grip on the panel.
[14:37] <cjwatson> oh bah, forgot, we need a ubiquity upload
[14:38] <cjwatson> I'll look into that now ...
[14:41] <ev> had one planned for today, but if you've got it, thanks
[14:42] <cjwatson> oh, right, debian/rules update was already running :)
[14:42] <cjwatson> anything else you want in it?
[14:42] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4498 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[14:42] <CIA-4> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: base-installer
[14:42] <CIA-4> ubiquity: 1.115ubuntu1, choose-mirror 2.37ubuntu1, partman-btrfs 5ubuntu2,
[14:42] <CIA-4> ubiquity: partman-ext3 62ubuntu1, yaboot-installer 1.1.19ubuntu1.
[14:43] <ev> nope
[14:44] <ev> any thoughts on my question in #ubuntu-devel, by the way? (why didn't we use the desktop wallpaper for plymouth to limit the visual transition)
[14:45] <ev> slowly working through the workitem for showing plymouth between ubiquity and gdm, and it looks a bit odd, given the current arrangement
[14:45] <cjwatson> I'm guessing it made it *really really* obvious when the resolutions didn't match up
[14:45] <cjwatson> even more painfully so than now
[14:45] <cjwatson> but I don't actually know
[14:45] <ev> perhaps this just fell through the cracks?
[14:46] <cjwatson> not sure, AIUI the plymouth image we were given was deliberate
[14:46] <cjwatson> Scott or tseliot might remember
[14:46] <ev> indeed, I think my plan of attack will be to ask Scott when he wakes up, and potentially follow up with design@
[14:47] <cjwatson> bear in mind though
[14:47] <CIA-4> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4499 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.5.13
[14:47] <cjwatson> that if you do that, it's going to look weird on the grub/plymouth interface
[14:47] <ev> can you elaborate on that? Are you referring to the aubergine hue given to the grub menu?
[14:48] <cjwatson> (a) grub potentially has a more limited colour depth (b) the desktop wallpaper probably won't look good in the event that the user shows the menu
[14:48] <ev> right
[14:48] <cjwatson> (because it'll be visually noisier)
[14:48] <cjwatson> I think we should probably have a different image choice for the plymouth-between-ubiquity-and-gdm case
[14:48] <ev> hmm
[14:49] <cjwatson> personally I'd rather that we think of the boot-time backgrounds as being coordinated rather than strictly identical
[14:49] <cjwatson> because they do sometimes have different things going on on top of them
[14:49] <ev> perhaps we could just leave the root window largely intact between ubiquity and gdm?
[14:49] <ev> good point
[14:50] <cjwatson> I thought there was a patch floating around somewhere to do kind of the opposite of what we do on dm startup
[14:50] <cjwatson> gdm preserves the framebuffer contents on startup
[14:50] <cjwatson> you want the other half of that, leave them intact on shutdown too
[14:50] <ev> so the reverse of -nr
[14:51] <cjwatson> (gdm> or X, I can't remember where the division of labour lies)
[14:51] <cjwatson> you'd want -nr plus something else for ubiquity-dm, and just -nr for gdm
[14:52] <ev> right