[00:00] <Daviey> :((
[00:00] <Daviey> *sigh*
[00:06] <Daviey> Just thought of one feature that is being cried out for.... ability to opt in to email notification of (re-)schedule of sessions.
[00:07] <mhall119> Daviey: we've got nigelb now, so we'll just give him all the new development tasks
[00:07] <Daviey> \o/
[00:08] <mhall119> Daviey: not all users expose their email address via launchpad
[00:11] <Daviey> if lpid.email = Null:
[00:11] <Daviey>   return E-CAN'T-SUBSCRIBE
[00:11] <Daviey> :)
[00:11] <cjohnston> Daviey: is it possible to get maintainer to summit hackers?
[00:12] <Daviey> cjohnston, To set bug importance?
[00:12] <cjohnston> well.. im not sure what it takes to setup translations and what not.. but i know that we dont have the ability to setup lp
[00:15] <Daviey> hmm
[00:15]  * Daviey looks
[00:15] <paultag> cjohnston: to translate the LD?
[00:15] <cjohnston> paultag: summit
[00:15] <paultag> cjohnston: that's django, right?
[00:15] <cjohnston> LD is already translated to the extent that translators have translated it
[00:15] <cjohnston> yes
[00:15] <paultag> cjohnston: 5 minute job, just use the tools that are built in
[00:16] <paultag> cjohnston: and lp can handle translations for it as well
[00:16] <cjohnston> Right.. LP currently isnt setup for it
[00:16] <paultag> cjohnston: it's able to be, with a few clicks
[00:16] <cjohnston> i dont know whats involved in making it
[00:16] <cjohnston> never setup a project for translations
[00:16] <paultag> cjohnston: click on translations and follow the prompts
[00:16] <cjohnston> paultag: dont have access
[00:16] <Daviey> cjohnston, OK.. i think Canonical ISD need to enable it.
[00:16] <Daviey> They are the maintainer
[00:16] <cjohnston> we arent maintainers
[00:16] <cjohnston> ok
[00:16] <Daviey> I'll get onto that tomorrow
[00:16] <cjohnston> ok
[00:17] <Daviey> but for now....
[00:17] <Daviey> BED
[00:17] <cjohnston> g'nite Daviey 
[00:17] <Daviey> well... away from computer anyway :)
[00:17] <cjohnston> lol
[00:17] <cjohnston> I've missed you! you cant leave!
[00:17] <cjohnston> lol
[00:20] <cjohnston> Daviey: could you also ask them to enable blueprints please?
[02:19] <nigelb> mhall119: I guess this means, yo'd have to review that merge request soon :)
[07:22] <YoBoY> good morning
[07:57] <dholbach> good morning
[12:43] <cjohnston> mornin
[12:47] <Pendulum> hiya cjohnston 
[12:48] <cjohnston> o/
[12:49] <mhall119> morning
[12:56] <cjohnston> mhall119: we need jono and jcastro to make a django-hackers sprint happen for us and our hacking buddies
[12:59] <Daviey> ETOOMUCHTRAVEL :)
[12:59] <cjohnston> nope!
[12:59] <cjohnston> lol
[12:59] <cjohnston> We can come to you
[13:03] <cjohnston> oh ubuntu store... why must thou be so expensive
[13:11] <nigelb> cjohnston: +1
[13:12] <nigelb> Daviey: I agree.  We can come to you :p
[13:18] <Daviey> eeeeeeek
[13:21]  * mhall119 needs a passport
[13:21] <cjohnston> you better start that process now mhall119 
[13:22]  * daker need a passport too
[13:22] <daker> s/need/needs
[13:25] <nigelb> oooh
[13:25] <nigelb> cjohnston: now I get to kick mhall119 
[13:25] <nigelb> \o/
[13:25] <cjohnston> lol
[13:25]  * nigelb does happy dance
[13:47] <JanC> if anybody comes to FOSDEM and wants to take home a box of Belgian chocolates with Tux on them ( http://belfine.com/en/products/infobox.asp?ID=550 ) for their LoCoTeam or such, please contact me  ;)
[13:48] <JanC> I think they are 15-20 € for 150 pieces
[13:50] <cjohnston> JanC: you should send me some! :-P
[13:51] <cjohnston> mhall119, Daviey, dholbach, czajkowski, nigelb, daker.. did i miss anyone.. this isnt something i wanted to hear: https://lists.launchpad.net/launchpad-users/msg06214.html
[13:53] <czajkowski> cjohnston can u pm me a summary. on phone. please....
[13:54] <Daviey> *sigh*
[13:54] <Daviey> mpt on this occasion is wrong IMO.
[13:55] <Daviey> it makes sense for, where possible, to push known data facts as high in the hierarchy as we can.
[13:55] <cjohnston> Daviey, could you respond?
[13:55] <Daviey> ~locoteams could, and should, be used in other resources.
[13:55] <Daviey> cjohnston, yah
[13:55] <cjohnston> ty
[13:55] <cjohnston> prolly be much more betterer than my response would be
[13:57] <paultag> yeah mpt is very wrong
[13:57] <paultag> because locoteams are supposed to be part of the wider ubuntu community, keeping everyone on LP is a statement that all our members have the tools to contribute
[13:58] <paultag> rather then keeping them off the system where we host, say, bugs, code, blueprints, translations
[13:58] <cjohnston> and then requiring memebership in two places
[13:58] <paultag> cjohnston: he's saying keep it in once place, off lp
[13:58] <paultag> I'm saying, keep it on one place, on lp
[13:58] <cjohnston> right..  but to file bugs... or anything else, your now up to two. LD and LP
[13:58] <paultag> We're not changing where we track loco users. kthx
[13:59] <paultag> cjohnston: LD is LP
[13:59] <paultag> cjohnston: it pulls from LP, so LD is a slave
[13:59] <cjohnston> Not with his suggestion
[13:59] <paultag> then he's wrong
[13:59] <cjohnston> I know
[14:00]  * paultag goes back to school
[14:00] <cjohnston> shoot an email to the list while your at school :-P
[14:00] <paultag> cjohnston: I don't want to get dragged into this flame war
[14:01] <paultag> cjohnston: and mpt is not in a place to tell us how to change the teams
[14:01] <paultag> so, I'm going back to work, kthx
[14:01] <cjohnston> heh
[14:08] <paultag> cjohnston: oh, thought of something else before I leave -- do your homework and find all the official teams in violation
[14:09] <paultag> cjohnston: so, ubuntu-beginners, locoteams, locoteams-approved and so forth. Ask him to deactivate them or to quit his bitching
[14:11] <cjohnston> good point
[14:18] <dholbach_> cjohnston, if you're on the list, why don't you reply to it?
[14:18] <cjohnston> im trying to formulate a decient reply
[14:18] <cjohnston> and do school work
[14:19] <dholbach_> a good reply would be for example: "The LoCo Directory gets the list of Launchpad teams (because they already exist in LP), by parsing the members of ~locoteams and ~locoteams-approved. Thanks, have a nice day, ..."
[14:19] <dholbach> it's nothing I would get upset about
[14:19] <cjohnston> ya
[14:19] <dholbach> how are they supposed to know the internals of the LD?
[14:20] <dholbach> (also it might make sense to point out that we use -approved for team re-approvals, etc.)
[14:20] <dholbach> so we make good use of the LP functionality :)
[14:22] <mhall119> "how are they supposed to know the internals of the LD?" bzr branch lp:loco-directory
[14:29] <dholbach> mhall119, seriously, if they would say "bzr branch lp:launchpad", I would say "ok, don't bother - just go ahead what ever you want to do"
[14:29] <dholbach> I don't know how reasonable "just read the code" is :)
[14:30] <dholbach> I mean... the expectation that people do it to find out what the idea behind something is
[14:31] <dholbach> but maybe that's just me
[14:39] <YoBoY> JanC: funny :D
[14:40] <JanC> YoBoY: we will sell chocolates at the booth (but those who help can get some for free of course ;) )
[14:42] <YoBoY> thanks for them :D (I don't go :'( )
[15:20] <mhall119> dholbach: I was just saying, that's how they would konw the internals of LD if they wanted to know the internals of LD
[15:21] <mhall119> I completely agree that they most likely won't need to know the internals of LD that much
[15:21] <dholbach> sure
[15:21] <dholbach> :-)
[15:21] <mhall119> but it's not like it's some secret how we do things
[15:46] <nigelb> Well, wow
[15:46] <nigelb> did someone talk to mpt yet?
[15:56] <cjohnston> nigelb: doctormo replied
[15:57] <nigelb> cjohnston: \o/
[15:58] <nigelb> cjohnston: which list is this?
[15:58] <nigelb> ah, lp-users
[15:58] <nigelb> perfect reply
[16:59] <nigelb> anyone seen ronnie around?
[17:14] <nigelb> Ok, so I'm hoping the summit reivews gets paced faster now that we have a UDS coming up soon
[17:16] <mhall119> nigelb: UDS is still like 3 months away
[17:16] <nigelb> mhall119: I thought we weren't going to deploy new summit 1 day before UDS :p
[17:28] <mhall119> nigelb: yeah, that's what we said last time too ;)
[17:28] <nigelb> haha
[18:49] <Ronnie> ping nigelb
[18:50] <nigelb> Ronnie: hey
[18:51] <Ronnie> nigelb: the branch about the google map that was broken beore should be fixed now
[18:51] <Ronnie> thx to the guys of #bzr
[18:51] <nigelb> \o/
[18:51] <nigelb> where can I help you in that branch?
[18:51] <nigelb> on the bug you mentioned you had issues with the icon and formating the box
[18:51] <Ronnie> do you have time and want to work a bit for an hour?
[18:52] <nigelb> whoa, 1 hour --> its 00:30 here
[18:52] <nigelb> just tell me what you specifically need help and I list out how to get it done
[18:52] <Ronnie> oh ;)
[18:52] <nigelb> I've put some really good work with maps api :)
[18:53] <Ronnie> what needs to be done, is think about the information that should be shown in the popup when clicked on a marker
[18:54] <nigelb> you mean, how to show information in the popup?
[18:54] <Ronnie> the howto is already done. there is already a simple working example
[18:54] <nigelb> \o/
[18:54] <Ronnie> but it need more information and some css
[18:55] <nigelb> oh, ok
[18:55] <Ronnie> i also updated my gmap js script a while ago, but it is not included in this branch
[18:55] <Ronnie> if you want to, you use my new script instead of my old
[18:55] <nigelb> can you update your branch somtime today so I can branch that one and check out how I can help?
[18:55] <Ronnie> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-django-foundations/map 
[18:56] <nigelb> (well, I'll only look at it tomorrow)
[18:56] <Ronnie> documentation and code ^ 
[18:56] <nigelb> oh, neat
[18:57] <Ronnie> for the content of the marker, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-django-foundations/map#marker_content_url
[18:58] <Ronnie> yes, its an very easy and extendable code to use. for both static and dynamic websites
[18:58] <Ronnie> nigelb: an example of the new script: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ronnie.vd.c/map.html
[18:59] <nigelb> oh, that's very nicely done
[18:59] <Ronnie> gmaps and jquery are both my speciality
[19:00] <nigelb> \o/
[19:00] <nigelb> Ronnie: Whats left to be done for the LD maps support?
[19:00] <Ronnie> nigelb: can you also look to the placing of the map on the page itsel
[19:00] <mhall119> Ronnie: you have a surprising number of LoCo members in the water ;)
[19:01] <nigelb> Ronnie: Its center for me
[19:01] <Ronnie> mhall119: im aware of that, even on the atlantic ocean and antartic
[19:01] <nigelb> and when I let it detect my location, it correctly goes to my city
[19:02] <mhall119> Ronnie: it looks great though
[19:02] <Ronnie> nigelb: yes, thats HTML5 geolocation stuff
[19:02] <Ronnie> if there is a single marker, it centers default to that single marker on a specified zoomlevel :D
[19:03] <nigelb> \o/
[19:06] <Ronnie> nigelb: so, what needs to be done:
[19:06] <Ronnie> 1. integrate my new script (shouldnt be that hard, only some parameters are changed)
[19:06] <Ronnie> 2. place the map on the different pages ( add venue and global events are already done, but can use some styling)
[19:06] <Ronnie> 3. determine the content of the markers and write a django view + template for this
[19:06] <Ronnie> 4. determine which information the clusters should shown and write an jquery template ($.tmpl) for this
[19:07] <nigelb> Aha.
[19:07] <nigelb> I can help with that :)
[19:08] <Ronnie> nigelb: ill have a look if i cant do #1 today
[19:09] <nigelb> I should be able to help with the rest tomorrow :)
[19:09] <Ronnie> mhall119, nigelb: could there be interest for the gmap plugin within the ubuntu community (e.g. are you aware of that)
[19:10] <Ronnie> i myself have no time tomorrow, but i look at it thursday
[19:11] <mhall119> Ronnie: what exactly is the gmap plugin?
[19:11] <Ronnie> an javascript that is easy to use to place markers on a map, or select an location on a map
[19:12] <Ronnie> everythig discribed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-django-foundations/map
[19:13] <mhall119> Ronnie: I can see there being interested, yeah
[19:13] <Ronnie> mhall119: i already contacted edubuntu for mapping the schools
[19:14] <mhall119> I saw that
[19:14] <Ronnie> i think i have not the right tools and connections to get this script to the people who need it
[19:15] <mhall119> once we get it on loco.ubuntu.com it'll get some attention, and we can point people to where they can get it
[19:17] <Ronnie> so if you know someone, give him/her the link. if there are additional questions, you can even redirect them to me
[21:25] <cjohnston> mhall119: when do you want to do the LoCo Dir Dev Week Class?
[21:31] <Ronnie> cool loco dir dev week :D
[21:32] <cjohnston> not a week... a class... in dev week
[21:36] <mhall119> cjohnston: when is dev week?
[21:36] <cjohnston> 28-4
[21:36] <cjohnston> end of this month
[21:37] <mhall119> yeah, I should be available
[21:37] <mhall119> if you can do it around lunch time US/Eastern, that'd work best for me
[21:38] <mhall119> otherwise after 8pm US/Eastern
[21:38] <cjohnston> 1600-2000 utc
[21:40] <mhall119> that's the times available?
[21:40] <mhall119> that's, what, 11am - 3pm?
[21:42] <cjohnston> looks like it
[21:44] <mhall119> should I just grab a spot, or ask someone?
[21:45] <cjohnston> if we are doing 1700 i could do wed or thurs only
[21:46] <mhall119> thursday won't work for me, dept. meeting
[21:46] <mhall119> why not 1700 on tuesday?
[21:46] <cjohnston> i work tues/fri
[21:46] <mhall119> ah, ok
[21:47] <mhall119> 1700 wed works for me
[21:47] <cjohnston> Getting Started with LoCo Directory Development?
[21:48] <mhall119> yup
[21:49] <mhall119> or LoCo Directory Hacking
[21:49] <daker> +1 for Getting Started with LoCo Directory Development
[21:50] <cjohnston> you dont like hacking daker ?
[21:50] <mhall119> nobody like hacking daker
[21:50] <cjohnston> lol
[21:50] <mhall119> it's violent
[21:51] <daker> yes
[21:53] <cjohnston> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable
[21:54] <mhall119> \o/
[21:57] <Ronnie> hacking is not violent, but cracking is. altough hacking is usually associated with dangerous/bad/wrong
[21:59] <mhall119> it was a play on words
[22:00] <mhall119> "hack" can mean to cut or chop
[22:06] <Ronnie> oh, now i see :)
[22:10] <Pendulum> I was told that "hack" actually originally comes from the MIT model railroad society
[22:10] <Pendulum> dunno if it's urban myth or not
[22:11] <Pendulum> but the story is that they used to have an engine and stuff that people could borrow and play with as they wished. And that invariably every person did something different so they literally had to hack and chance the wires from the previous person's set-up