=== nijaba_afk is now known as nijaba === DrKenobi_ is now known as DrKenobi === Claudinux_ is now known as Claudinux [09:32] i have local network with machinesand a server under windows 2003 server and machines under windows xp,one of them is my workstation connected to the internet,i wan tu configure it like a update server for antivirus,how can i configure this on latest ubuntu server [09:51] bravvve: this isn't a help channel [09:51] just for meetings. try #ubuntu or #ubuntu-server [10:10] * elky pokes lifeless: persia, freeflying? Are we meeting today? [10:21] valorie:ok [10:22] good luck! === Craig_Dem_ is now known as Craig_Dem === ian_brasil___ is now known as ian_brasil === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ === ian_brasil_ is now known as ian_brasil === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann === ian_brasil_____ is now known as ian_brasil === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === evilvish is now known as vish === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ === bjf[afk] is now known as bjf [15:56] hi [15:57] yo [15:57] ~ô~ [15:58] o/ [15:58] o/ [15:59] o/ [16:00] lets get this party started! [16:00] #startmeeting [16:00] Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is Daviey. [16:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:00] [TOPIC] Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:00] - SpamapS - Add "verify SRU fixes" to the ServerTeam/GettingInvolved wiki page. [16:00] New Topic: Review ACTION points from previous meeting [16:00] * Daviey looks [16:01] looks DONE [16:01] \o/ [16:01] * smb stumbles in [16:01] [TOPIC] Current Development [16:01] New Topic: Current Development [16:01] robbiew ? [16:01] alpha2 is this week [16:01] Okay, we we have just hit soft freeze for A2 natty. [16:01] done [16:01] lol [16:01] anyone have any concerns regarding A2? [16:02] i'm just happy it is this week. i was concerned when the archive closed last tuesday :) [16:02] hggdh, how is automated testing looking? [16:02] smoser: heh...we should have pitti falsely announce every time [16:03] okay, hggdh can update us in his section. [16:03] Related, is the upcoming Lucid point release of, 10.04.2. Seems we are in good shape for this, zul, happen to know if there is anything we should be tracking that is release critical that we should be jumping on? [16:03] Daviey, it looks good, but I am not sure we already have an ISO to test... [16:03] Daviey: nope i think we are in good shape [16:04] when is freeze for 10.04.2? [16:04] there's a data corruption bug with qemu virtio > 1tb, i'd like to paper that over before freeze [16:04] hallyn, good qustion... i'm not sure there is a set date.. [16:04] skaet, happen to know when the archive freeze for 10.04.1 is? [16:04] a while ago i think [16:04] 'freeze' == 'deadline' i guess [16:05] Daviey, 10.04.2 was frozen on 1/20 [16:05] zul, ah, you caught me [16:05] okay.. dandy, thanks skaet [16:05] bad me. 10.04.3 it is i guess [16:05] moving on... [16:05] [TOPIC] Upcoming Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:05] - Strata - Feb 1 -3, San Francisco (DustinKirkland - attending) [16:05] - SCALE9x - Feb 25 - 27, Los Angeles (ClintByrum attending, DustinKirkland presenting) [16:05] - FOSDEM - Feb 5-6, Brussels - Belgium (DaveWalker, JamesPage) [16:05] New Topic: Upcoming Ubuntu Server Team Events [16:06] So, looks like kirkland can't be here today as he is at Strata. [16:06] SpamapS, Hello! Fancy talking about SCALE9x ? [16:06] kirkland should go to the openstack release party Thursday. [16:07] ttx, Ooooo.. i didn't know you had one planned! I'm sure he'll be happy to know about it. [16:07] I think its a free beer thing [16:07] Daviey: sure.. unfortunately it looks like I will miss most of Sat. and all of Sun, but will be there for Fri. [16:07] ttx, /me wonders if it's too late to organise a flight. [16:07] Daviey: depends how closely you want to get to know the tsa guards i think [16:07] SpamapS, Well - will be interesting to hear what you bring away from it. [16:08] Daviey: for you yes. You shoud rather arrive Friday night so that we have a few beers at the FOSDEM beer night [16:08] Okay, James and myself will both be at FOSDEM this weekend... ariving friday evening [16:08] hallyn: hah tsa was not that bad [16:08] Daviey: yeah, was hoping to attend all 3 days but travel is conflicting. :-/ [16:08] Daviey, kirkland: http://www.openstack.org/blog/2011/01/openstack-meetup-and-open-bar-in-california/ [16:08] We'll get a chance to talk to plenty of upstreams including openstack, puppet and some others. James also mentioned that there will be a java event, which sounds good. [16:09] Equally, plenty of Debian devs will be there - so should be a good chance to meet all of our upstreams. [16:09] SpamapS, :( [16:09] [ACTION] ttx to buy Daviey and JamesPage beer at FOSDEM, friday night. [16:09] ACTION received: ttx to buy Daviey and JamesPage beer at FOSDEM, friday night. [16:10] \o/ [16:10] okay, great - moving on [16:10] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [16:10] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh) [16:10] Daviey: only if you ensure ambiance in my "Why we hate java" talk [16:10] well, here I am [16:10] \o/ [16:11] (1) automated ISO tests -- going well, I had some updates done to the marvelous ubuntu-server-iso-testing [16:11] hggdh, The automated testing of the daily ISO's... anything scary caught? [16:11] apart from my issues on getting the bloody d-i syslog in, no [16:11] heh [16:11] only one iffy, samba, wbinfo -u is not returning the current user [16:11] hggdh, Anything else we should be concerned about? [16:11] eeek [16:12] I *think* this may be related to running in background, without a real login [16:12] samba had an upload in the last couple of days as it wasn't starting correctly [16:12] could that be it? [16:12] hggdh: been talking with jhunt about adding some boot-up / shut-down tests for the automated testing... [16:12] IDK, still testing. Today's image still fails [16:12] SpamapS, that would be nice indeed [16:13] :( [16:13] even more if it helps to test upstart integration [16:13] hggdh: probably will have to wait until UDS but wanted to put it on your radar.. we are particularly interested in testing with , say, all of the server seed packages installed.. does the system boot-up/shut-down properly 100 times in a row [16:13] Daviey: that would be the winbind daemon i think [16:13] zul, ack [16:13] SpamapS, duly noted, sir, thank you [16:13] re. Alpha2: we are still waiting for official (tentative) images to be released [16:14] hggdh, okay - great! Can you keep us posted on anything scary, and talk out of band about A2 testing/ [16:14] *if* there is no change to today's ISO, we are doing *very* well indeed [16:14] 3 cheers! [16:14] :-) [16:14] okay, anyone have anything for hggdh ? [16:15] super, thanks hggdh [16:15] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:15] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb) [16:15] welcome [16:15] hi [16:15] hello smb [16:15] I have not got much this week [16:15] This is a *good* thing, surely? [16:15] * smb seems to have spent infinite time on natty and t1.micros [16:15] he doesn't have much because he fixed all the problems [16:16] Sadly there are always some left. :-P [16:16] smoser, my problems extend outside the kernel space :) [16:16] but if anyone wants some fun, bug 708920 [16:16] okay, anyone have anything for smb ? [16:16] Launchpad bug 708920 in linux-ec2 (Ubuntu) "Strange 'fork/clone' blocking behavior under high cpu usage on EC2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708920 [16:16] smoser, you must have! [16:16] complete with HD youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbURfuAmtXw [16:16] That is one thing to look into next [16:17] and the missing console and ... [16:17] And should I run out of ec2 things there still should be the rare nfs race somewhere [16:18] .. [16:18] poor smb... [16:18] smb, is that everything? [16:18] yup [16:18] super, thanks [16:18] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Doucmentation Team (sommer) [16:18] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Doucmentation Team (sommer) [16:19] * Daviey motions to remove this from the current agenda [16:19] seems sommer is not able to regularly attend... :( [16:19] * Daviey suggests adding it AdHoc. [16:19] carryover... [16:20] [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Ubuntu Community Team (kim0) [16:20] New Topic: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Ubuntu Community Team (kim0) [16:20] I imagine kim0 is unable to attend at the moment, due to issues outside his control. [16:20] that is nuts [16:20] [TOPIC] Open Discussion [16:20] New Topic: Open Discussion [16:20] Daviey, JamesPage: when do you arrive ? [16:21] * Daviey checks [16:22] ttx, Arrive in Brussels at 17:33 hrs [16:22] ttx, you? [16:22] * Daviey takes it out of band. [16:22] Any other other biz? [16:22] I'm already i nBrussels [16:23] oh :) [16:23] ok [16:23] 3 [16:23] 2 [16:23] 1 [16:23] [TOPIC] Announce next meeting date and time [16:23] Tuesday, February 8 2011 16:00 UTC [16:23] New Topic: Announce next meeting date and time [16:23] #endmeeting [16:23] Meeting finished at 10:23. [16:23] thanks all. [16:45] is there a reason gdm themes were taken out or disabled in the newer releases (post 8.10) of ubuntu ? [16:47] major changes in gnome-display-manger made it too difficult [16:49] oh. nobody's come up with an alternative, yet? [16:57] * JFo waves [16:58] o/ [16:59] * smb is there [16:59] * ara waves [17:01] #startmeeting [17:01] Meeting started at 11:01. The chair is bjf. [17:01] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [17:01] o/ [17:01] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [17:01] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty [17:01] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [17:01] LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty [17:01] # [17:01] # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input. [17:01] # [17:01] [TOPIC] ARM Status (bjf) [17:01] New Topic: ARM Status (bjf) [17:01] Nothing new [17:01] .. [17:02] [TOPIC] Release Metrics (JFo) [17:02] New Topic: Release Metrics (JFo) [17:02] Release Meeting Bugs (8 bugs, 10 Blueprints) [17:02] ==== Alpha 2 Milestoned Bugs (19 across all packages (down 3)) ==== [17:02] * 1 linux kernel bugs (no change) [17:02] * 0 linux-ti-omap bugs (no change) [17:02] * 0 linux-meta-ti-omap bug (no change) [17:02] ==== Release Targeted Bugs (205 across all packages (down 6)) ==== [17:02] * 17 linux kernel bugs (down 3) [17:02] * 0 linux-ti-omap bugs (no change) [17:02] * 0 linux-meta-ti-omap bug (no change) [17:02] ==== Milestoned Features ==== [17:02] * 7 blueprints (Including HWE Blueprints) [17:02] ==== Maverick Updates Bugs ==== [17:02] * 55 Linux Bugs (down 1) [17:02] ==== Lucid Updates Bugs [17:02] * 91 Linux Bugs (down 4) [17:02] ==== Bugs with Patches Attached:94 (down 10) ==== [17:02] * [[https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bugs?field.has_patch=on | Bugs with Patches]] [17:02] * [[http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ogasawara/csv-stats/bugs-with-patches/linux/ | Breakdown by status]] [17:02] .. [17:03] [TOPIC] Blueprints: Natty Bug Handling (JFo) [17:03] [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-kernel-n-bug-handling [17:03] New Topic: Blueprints: Natty Bug Handling (JFo) [17:03] LINK received: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-kernel-n-bug-handling [17:03] * Did some research into kerneloops at the end of last week. I have some data from Brian Murray as to some tools he already has that we can make use of. I'm continuing that work this week [17:03] * started looking over our documentation on kernel testing. I have some notes and I am retesting a few of the steps. I finally have a natty test machine to work with. [17:03] * As part of the changes I have been making to the arsenal scripts, I have been looking at the messages we put into comments on bugs and their applicability to specific architectures. I have some notes here, but I am still finishing up on my documentation before I make those changes. [17:03] * I think the apport hooks verbiage item needs to be postponed. There was apparently some work that I had wanted to look at that has already been done. This item was mainly to familiarize myself with the hooks and begin learning how they could be changed. [17:03] * The arsenal flow documentation has been taking forever to complete. I didn't get much done on it this week as I had other priorities. [17:03] .. [17:04] [TOPIC] Blueprints: Review of the Stable Maintenance Process (sconklin / bjf) [17:04] [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-kernel-n-stable-process-review [17:04] New Topic: Blueprints: Review of the Stable Maintenance Process (sconklin / bjf) [17:04] LINK received: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-kernel-n-stable-process-review [17:04] | [17:04] | We continue to make improvements to our tools and [17:04] | processes. Most notably, work on CVEs has been [17:04] | shifted to being handled much like bug fixes, [17:04] | and that work load is now being shared by more [17:04] | members of the kernel team. [17:04] | [17:04] | The stable kernel team was able to complete the [17:04] | last cycle in two weeks, but all uploades are [17:04] | still awaiting being copied to -proposed. [17:04] | [17:04] | For Dapper, Hardy, and Karmic, this is because [17:04] | there has been no feedback in the tracking bugs [17:04] | indicating whether the -proposed kernels even boot. [17:04] * smb is currently doing some Dapper tests [17:05] .. [17:05] [TOPIC] Status: Cert. Team (ara) [17:05] New Topic: Status: Cert. Team (ara) [17:05] Hey! [17:05] Nothing to report this week, as we are not testing SRUs this week [17:05] We are focusing on testing 10.04.2 images [17:06] .. [17:06] [TOPIC] Status: Ecryptfs (jj) [17:06] New Topic: Status: Ecryptfs (jj) [17:06] - Reworked rename as there was an interaction with d_move. Still need to investigate layering interactions with d_move more. [17:06] - updated the documentation to the current state [17:06] - finally pushed out to the ecryptfs-devel mailing list [17:06] - After talking to tyhicks last week started investigating adding storing long name into the ecryptfs header instead of an xattr. This should be a small extension to the current patch, and both could be supported. [17:06] - It has not been pushed to lkml yet, (giving tyhicks a first pass at it) [17:07] .. [17:07] [TOPIC] Status: Natty (apw) [17:07] New Topic: Status: Natty (apw) [17:07] o/ [17:08] Following a long period of instability the x86 suspend issues and some ARM display issues seem to be resolved. We have therefore uploaded our first (and second) v2.6.38 based kernels, the main distro kernel is now at v2.6.38-rc2 + git. This kernel seems to be working well on i386, x86_64, and on arm. This will be the kernel for natty-alpha-2, for which we froze today. Upstream v2.6.38-rc3 has now released and we will upload this as soon as the mil [17:08] estone freeze lifts, likely on friday. [17:08] .. [17:08] [TOPIC] Security & bugfix kernels - Maverick/Lucid/Karmic/Hardy/Dapper (sconklin / bjf) [17:08] New Topic: Security & bugfix kernels - Maverick/Lucid/Karmic/Hardy/Dapper (sconklin / bjf) [17:09] Partial status today due to tool failure and lack of prep by me. [17:09] Here are the packages still in -proposed: [17:09] || Package || Upd/Sec || Proposed || TiP || Verified || [17:09] || || || || || || [17:09] || dapper linux-source-2.6.15 || 2.6.15-55.90 || 2.6.15-55.91 || 0 || 0 || [17:09] || || || || || || [17:09] || hardy linux || 2.6.24-28.81 || 2.6.24-28.84 || 0 || 0 || [17:09] || || || || || || [17:09] || karmic linux-ec2 || 2.6.31-307.23 || 2.6.31-307.24 || 0 || 0 || [17:09] || --- linux || 2.6.31-22.70 || 2.6.31-22.71 || 0 || 0 || [17:09] || || || || || || [17:09] .. [17:10] [TOPIC] Incoming Bugs: Regressions (JFo) [17:10] New Topic: Incoming Bugs: Regressions (JFo) [17:10] Incoming Bugs [17:10] 108 Natty Bugs (up 15) [17:10] 1133 Maverick Bugs (up 17) [17:10] 997 Lucid Bugs (up 3) [17:10] Current regression stats (broken down by release): [17:10] ==== regression-update ==== [17:10] * 32 maverick bugs (up 2) [17:10] * 75 lucid bugs (up 1) [17:10] * 6 karmic bugs (no change) [17:10] * 0 hardy bugs (no change) [17:10] ==== regression-release ==== [17:10] * 221 maverick bugs (up 3) [17:10] * 204 lucid bugs (up 1) [17:10] * 38 karmic bugs (no change) [17:10] * 2 hardy bugs (no change) [17:10] ==== regression-proposed ==== [17:10] * 15 maverick bugs (down 2) [17:10] * 2 lucid bugs (down 1) [17:10] * 1 karmic bug (no change) [17:10] .. [17:11] [TOPIC] Incoming Bugs: Bug day report (JFo) [17:11] New Topic: Incoming Bugs: Bug day report (JFo) [17:11] Today is the Bug Day for New status bugs. This is something that I would like to hold again next week so that I can get new status bugs back under control [17:11] .. [17:11] [TOPIC] Triage Status (JFo) [17:11] New Topic: Triage Status (JFo) [17:11] Some of you have probably noticed the massive jump in bugs on our Hot List. This is due to the inclusion of 'kernel-key' tagged bugs as well as all regression-proposed bugs. It is very likely that many of the regression proposed bugs are no longer valid due to those kernels having been shipped. [17:11] I have also been getting an inordinate amount [17:12] of direct pings or 'drive-bys' on random bugs [17:12] I have not meen responding to most of them as they interrupt me when I am in the middle of something, but I am working ot identify important ones. [17:13] I'll likely begin asking some of you to take a quick look at a few of those to aid in determining if they are fit for the list. [17:13] .. [17:13] JFo, well they need moving to regression updates [17:13] ok [17:13] (the regression proposed ones) [17:13] and they are more serious then [17:13] indeed [17:13] I just have not been doing that as yet [17:13] it is something I need to add to my duties. [17:14] .. [17:14] [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) [17:14] New Topic: Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/) [17:14] o/ [17:14] apw, go [17:14] o/ [17:14] on the topic of regression-proposed i suspect we need to [17:14] firebomb the lot, see if any are valid against the latest updates kerenl [17:15] as we are wallowing much history [17:15] .. [17:15] I agree [17:15] .. [17:15] * apw is .. [17:16] thanks everyone [17:16] #endmeeting [17:16] Meeting finished at 11:16. [17:16] hm... [17:16] thanks bjf [17:16] skaet, :( oops [17:16] skaet, sorry [17:16] lol [17:16] skaet go!!!! [17:16] no worries [17:17] A2 release notes need to be scrubbed [17:17] skaet, don't worry about mootbot, we are still here ... [17:17] skaet, got a link [17:17] apw, can you take a pass and add in the differences for A2 to highlight, and any of the bugs needed [17:18] skaet, sure [17:18] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview [17:18] Its been started for A2, but needs some scrubbing to remove invalid [17:19] * skaet will be scrubbing today [17:19] skaet, i see it, will let you know when i've poked it [17:19] apw, thanks! [17:19] i guess that's really it this time [17:20] * skaet is going to recruit bjf next time she's traveling for the release meeting ;) [17:20] thanks bjf [17:20] heh [17:32] * rtdos raises hand o/ [17:35] just curious: is there a reason there has been more of a significant increase in system requirements in recent releases of ubuntu than in previous versions? [17:39] rtdos, you can go to #ubuntu-kernel and ask there, the meeting is over [17:41] thanks bjf...dang, late again. ok. thanks again. :) [17:42] we are a pretty efficient group when it comes to our meetings :) [17:46] thx. i now added them to my reminders. :) [18:00] * stgraber waves [18:00] * fagan waves [18:00] * ajmitch yawns [18:00] hehe [18:00] hi [18:01] * ajmitch cannot stay for the full hour today [18:01] I didnt hear back from statik and mvo isnt about so we can go ahead [18:01] heya [18:01] hey highvoltage [18:02] so should I go ahead and start the meeting [18:02] yes please [18:02] #startmeeting [18:02] Meeting started at 12:02. The chair is fagan. [18:02] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [18:02] [TOPIC] Review action items [18:02] New Topic: Review action items [18:02] [LINK] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Agenda [18:02] LINK received: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppReviewBoard/Agenda [18:05] so whats up first? [18:05] looks like we didn't complete the action items on the agenda [18:05] yeah [18:05] definitely want to carry over the one about the wiki page guide for developers [18:06] I don't have any opinion on the other two [18:06] well we can go ahead and talk about the first thing [18:06] does anyone have info about the state of quickly & cdbs in natty, or should that be added as something to look at? [18:06] didrocks reports that the fixes are ready to go for natty [18:07] ajmitch: I heard the /opt thing was blocked on something though [18:07] I don't know if the updated packages are in natty yet [18:07] ive been meaning to ask about that [18:07] i can do that after this meeting [18:07] maybe add an action item for next meeting to ask didrocks? [18:07] ok, checking up on that was pretty much the last thing for the app I was checking over [18:07] yeah I can do that [18:07] fagan: cool [18:07] thanks [18:07] ok so ill look into that so [18:08] is there a command to tell the bot about an action item [18:08] [ACTION] [18:08] oh cool [18:08] I think only you can use it since you started the meeting [18:09] [ACTION] fagan to look into natty changes for /opt [18:09] ACTION received: fagan to look into natty changes for /opt [18:09] good [18:09] moving on [18:09] developer wiki page on creating submissions [18:10] [TOPIC] developer wiki page on creating submissions [18:10] New Topic: developer wiki page on creating submissions [18:10] I'm one of the responsible parties listed in the agenda, I'll commit to work on it in the next two weeks [18:10] ok so this came up the last meeting if im correct? [18:10] carried over a couple of meetings, yeah [18:11] I said ill help out on that too since I came from a docs background but ill be more editing since im pretty busy at the moment with college [18:11] that's good [18:11] so you can take the lead on it wendar [18:11] ill just do little bits here and there [18:11] okay [18:12] * wendar bumps it from black to red in her todo list [18:12] anything to talk about on this topic or was it all said at the last meeting [18:13] I think enough was said at the last meeting [18:13] cool [18:13] * ajmitch read the logs, at least [18:13] [ACTION] fagan and wendar to do some wiki pages on creating submissions [18:13] ACTION received: fagan and wendar to do some wiki pages on creating submissions [18:14] ok so the second one is for the list so ill post about that after the meeting [18:14] and the third thing I forgot about so we should move on to the reviews I think [18:14] since we have enough here for the moment to pass an app I think [18:15] yes, 3 is quorum [18:15] ok so does anyone have an app ready for review? [18:15] * wendar has 2 [18:16] oh cool pick one to do first [18:16] almost, was just seeing the status of quickly & co before recommending changes [18:16] should we do status on ajmitch's app first in case he has to leave? [18:16] ajmitch: as we are pushing to 10.10 and won't have the new quickly/cdbs/... in there, does it really matter ? [18:17]