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[07:57] <dholbach> good morning
[09:20] <geser> good morning
[09:25]  * sebner waves at geser :)
[09:28] <geser> Hi sebner, how are you? long time not seen you around
[09:30] <sebner> geser: I'm always around, just not writing. Hahaha, well I'm fine besides that I have my math exam in 1 hour ...
[09:32] <geser> sebner: good luck with your exam
[09:32] <sebner> geser: thanks :); I'll leave then. We can talk later :)
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[09:59] <iulian> Morning geser.
[09:59] <iulian> Hey dholbach.
[09:59] <dholbach> hi iulian
[10:00] <geser> Hi iulian
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[14:57] <ari-tczew> dholbach: do you maintain profil "Ubuntu developers/development" on facebook?
[14:57] <dholbach> yes
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[16:48] <geser> hyperair: what's your opinion on syncing pdfmod from Debian experimental?
[16:51] <hyperair> geser: you mean it's not synced yet?
[16:51] <hyperair> geser: apologies, i must have overlooked it
[16:52] <geser> hyperair: natty has 0.8.3-1build2 and as a rebuild is needed for a transition, perhaps sync 0.9.0-1 at that chance
[16:54] <hyperair> geser: may i sync it now?
[16:54] <hyperair> geser: as in, syncpackage?
[16:54] <hyperair> geser: out of curiosity, what build-deps have changed?
[16:55] <geser> hyperair: sure, libpoppler-glib5 is NBS and pdfmod depends on it
[16:55] <hyperair> i see.
[16:55] <geser> just a library transition
[16:56] <hyperair> i see.
[16:56] <hyperair> geser: and a rebuild fixes it all?
[16:56] <hyperair> no sourceful changes?
[16:57] <geser> hyperair: depends, sometimes a rebuild is enough and sometimes not, but pdfmod 0.9.0 built in my natty pbuilder without problems
[16:57] <hyperair> ah, in that case it's fine, i guess
[16:58]  * hyperair test builds just in case
[16:58] <hyperair> just to see what new clilibs/shlibs have changed
[16:59] <geser> I'm just surprised that pdfmod 0.9.0 doesn't depend on libpoppler-glib6 at all which might be due to "ld --as-needed"
[16:59] <Laney> why syncpackage and not normal sync?
[17:00] <hyperair> no, that's unlikely
[17:00] <hyperair> Laney: because i'm a lazy and impatient bastard
[17:00] <Laney> they get done daily now
[17:00] <hyperair> Laney: then i'm just a lazy bastard.
[17:01] <hyperair> geser: yeah, see, that's what i was worried about, because pdfmod is a CLI app which doesn't use ld for linking
[17:01] <Laney> as you wish
[17:03] <hyperair> dh_clideps: Warning: Missing shlibs entry: libpoppler-glib.so.5 or poppler-glib for: poppler-sharp.dll! Resolved moduleref via DLL map: poppler-glib to: libpoppler-glib.so.5
[17:03] <hyperair> geser: ^^
[17:03] <hyperair> that's what happened.
[17:04] <geser> how to fix it?
[17:05] <hyperair> patch the .config file, i guess.
[17:05] <hyperair> poppler-sharp.dll.config
[17:05] <hyperair> no wait
[17:05] <hyperair> we need to fix poppler-sharp first
[17:05] <hyperair> and then rebuild pdfmod
[17:05] <hyperair> pdfmod should be syncable after
[17:09] <geser> ah, looks like the recent poppler-sharp rebuild (for that transition) broke it, as no dependency at all anymore
[17:10] <hyperair> heh
[17:10] <hyperair> lemme investigate
[17:10] <geser> looks like fabricesp forgot to update debian/poppler-sharp.dll.config in his rebuild attempt
[17:13] <geser> like it was it, uploading a fixed poppler-sharp
[17:13] <hyperair> geser: ...did you upload yet?
[17:13] <hyperair> geser: if you haven't, please stop.
[17:13] <geser> ok
[17:13] <hyperair> i'm in the middle of preparing an upload that autogenerates the SONAME
[17:13] <hyperair> so we can just do no-change reuploads in the future
[17:14] <geser> ok, I let you handle poppler-sharp and pdfmod
[17:14] <hyperair> thanks.
[17:16] <hyperair> now how do we get the soname...
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[17:19] <geser> objdump -p /usr/lib/libpoppler-glib.so | grep SONAME
[17:23] <hyperair> !
[17:23] <hyperair> thanks
[20:08] <ari-tczew> cjwatson: would be nice to have your look on bug 711454
[20:08] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 711454 in Merge-o-Matic "Patches include .pc files and directly changes on files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711454
[20:13] <cjwatson> ari-tczew: yeah, I'm aware of the problem but am not sure how to solve it; probably needs consultation with the UDD folks since they have similar problems
[20:13] <cjwatson> I certainly can't do you a quick fix, sorry
[20:14] <ari-tczew> cjwatson: I understand.
[20:14] <cjwatson> it's also tied in with http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=572204
[20:15] <cjwatson> my personal preference is to omit .pc files from all these kinds of things, but then you have the problem that if you want to actually operate on the quilt patches then you have to run a strange command to set up the .pc directory for yourself
[20:15] <cjwatson> it gets even more confusing if you have a wrong (unmerged) .pc directory
[20:16] <cjwatson> I know how to handle it for myself, but I don't yet have a firm grasp of what it might be sane to recommend that everyone use
[20:19] <ari-tczew> main merges are less than 100! and all less than 150
[20:22] <Rhonda> huhpmf
[20:23] <Rhonda> requestsync hasn
[20:23] <Rhonda> requestsync hasn't noticed yet that there is fillets-ng-data newer version in unstable yet  *pouts*
[20:23] <Rhonda> I uploaded it the same time as fillets-ng
[20:33] <geser> does rmadison know about it?
[20:40] <Rhonda> yep
[20:40] <Rhonda> uhm, no. what the
[20:41] <Rhonda> *slapsherself* … of course, it's stuck in NEW  %-/
[20:42]  * Rhonda . o O ( new dutch speech files )
[21:08] <Rhonda> Shall I set the fillets-ng sync request to new instead of confirmed for the time being?
[21:10] <Rhonda> bdrung or cjwatson, can you unsubscribe ubuntu-archive from bug #711473? I don't want it to be on your agenda as long as the -data package isn't through Debian NEW, otherwise an accidental sync would render the package unusable.
[21:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 711473 in fillets-ng (Ubuntu) "Sync fillets-ng 1.0.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711473
[21:12] <seidos> hi all.  i was just wondering, is it possible to install a package from maverick on a lucid system?  if so, how?
[21:15] <bdrung> Rhonda: you need to ask a ubuntu-archive member (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+members#active)
[21:16] <Rhonda> Oh, thought you are one, sorry.
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[23:21] <cjwatson> Rhonda: I see somebody's done it