[07:20] <micahg> fta: is there a reason why chromium build-deps on g++-4.3 | g++-4.2 instead of the default?
[09:03] <magcius> huh
[09:03] <magcius> was firefox reverted recently
[09:03] <chrisccoulson> reverted?
[09:03] <chrisccoulson> i don't think so
[09:03] <magcius> OK.
[09:03] <chrisccoulson> actually, i know it wasn't :)
[09:04] <chrisccoulson> how come?
[09:04] <magcius> hold on, let me check something
[09:04] <magcius> there was a bug that was fixed and now it's back
[09:04] <magcius> I just want to check
[09:04] <chrisccoulson> oh?
[09:08] <magcius> Yeah, looks like it's an environment thing.
[09:09] <magcius> The most annoying bug for me is that if you're not under a compositor, all the text and graphics look like shit when you grab them
[09:09] <magcius> I guess it's due to the lack of a proper alpha channel on a window without compositing then.
[09:10] <magcius> you could stick in a metacity-specific hack for the RGBA stuff that the use there.
[09:10] <chrisccoulson> probably. i've not tried that though, i haven't used a WM without a compositor for ages ;)
[09:10] <magcius> what do yo uuse?
[09:10] <chrisccoulson> compiz
[09:10] <magcius> OK.
[09:11] <chrisccoulson> i don't have much choice really, as i need it to run unity ;)
[09:12] <magcius> isn't unity mutter-based?
[09:12]  * magcius doesn't run unity
[09:12] <chrisccoulson> it used to be, but it is a compiz plugin now
[09:13] <magcius> huh, OK.
[09:13] <magcius> why the port?
[09:14] <chrisccoulson> i think they had a lot of issues with the mutter version
[09:14] <chrisccoulson> i never used that though
[09:14] <magcius> "issues"?
[09:15] <magcius> things they didn't file bugs for, I presume?
[09:15] <chrisccoulson> i've no idea ;)
[18:05] <micahg> chrisccoulson: BTW, I asked the Xubuntu team for help testing tb-locales last week, but I guess I didn't get any takers
[19:24] <fta> grr, googlearth crashes, in flash, itself in libgdk_pixbuf
[21:48] <fta> chrisccoulson, reading #u-d, i wonder if i should reboot after the last upgrade..
[21:48] <fta> probably not..
[21:48] <chrisccoulson> fta - make sure you get the downgraded glew that bryce just uploaded ;)
[21:48] <fta> i'm not using unity
[21:49] <chrisccoulson> fta - you're probably ok then
[21:49] <fta> seems alpha2 will be in a bad shape
[21:49] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it's not good right now
[21:49] <chrisccoulson> my machine has gone from ok to barely usable in a couple of days
[21:50] <micahg> fta: did you see my note earlier about g++-4.3?
[21:50] <fta> micahg, nope
[21:50] <micahg> micahg: fta: is there a reason why chromium build-deps on g++-4.3 | g++-4.2 instead of the default?
[21:50] <chrisccoulson> b'ah, this corruption in xchat is driving me crazy
[21:51] <chrisccoulson> it's difficult to work out what people are writing
[21:51] <micahg> pidgin FTW :)
[21:51] <chrisccoulson> micahg - graphics drivers ;)
[21:51] <chrisccoulson> i'm not sure if pidgin would be any better
[21:51] <fta> micahg, hm, i don't remember.. hardy, or maybe gcc-4.4. i should check my logs
[21:52] <micahg> fta: hardy is gcc-4.3 I think
[21:52] <micahg> no, 4.2
[21:52] <micahg> fta: but I'm more concerned with natty ATM
[21:52] <micahg> we're looking to drop gcc-4.3 from natty
[21:53] <fta> AVOID_GCC_44 := 0
[21:53] <fta> so it's using the default gcc
[21:54] <micahg> ok, can we drop the build dep on 4.3 and 4.2 in natty then?
[21:55] <fta> at some point 4.4 made ch snap a lot, so i needed 4.3, but hardy doesn't have it, hence the | 4.2
[21:55] <fta> i guess it's fine now
[21:55] <fta> i will drop it for the ppa, and if it's fine, drop it from the next stable
[21:55] <micahg> fta: ok, 4.5 is the default for natty
[21:56] <fta> i know
[21:56] <micahg> fta: great, thanks, do you have an ETA for that?
[21:56] <fta> ppa, minutes
[21:56] <fta> stable, days
[21:56] <micahg> cool, thanks
[21:57] <fta> i wanted to clean-up the packaging once i dropped hardy and karmic
[21:57] <micahg> I know the feeling :)
[21:58] <micahg> after chromium, there are ~6 apps left with build/binary deps on gcc-43
[22:00] <fta> hm, i still have workarounds for 4.4 and 4.5
[22:09] <fta> micahg, done in the dailies. let's see if it still builds everywhere