[09:15]  * ara resyncs some i386 images
[11:20] <davmor2> jibel, ara: probably won't be able to help you too much this cycle I have a fair amount on and my boss is off to :(
[13:18] <charlie-tca> I will be testing hardware only this time. VirtualBox 4.0 in Natty is broken again
[13:18] <jibel> charlie-tca, what is broken ?
[13:18] <jibel> they uploaded a fix 2 day ago.
[13:18] <charlie-tca> can't install with the -38 kernel
[13:19] <jibel> are you sure ? virtualbox-ose has been upgraded to 4.0
[13:19] <jibel> you should uninstall the version from oracle and install this one instead.
[13:19] <charlie-tca> heh, I'm sure. There is a bug on virtualbox tracker for it
[13:19] <jibel> charlie-tca, it's running in front of me on i386 and amd64 :-)
[13:20] <jibel> Linux black 2.6.38-1-generic
[13:20] <charlie-tca> i'm waiting to do anything. Last night the updates wanted to remove all my X Server stuff completely
[13:20] <jibel> yeah, X needs fix
[13:20] <charlie-tca> maybe it is in that mess, now, but I can wait
[13:21] <jibel> charlie-tca, vbox was fixed on Sat, 29 Jan 2011 20:13:14 +0100 to build with kernel -38
[13:23] <charlie-tca> I removed and reinstalled it yesterday and got the same errors
[13:24] <jibel> charlie-tca, ose or oracle ?
[13:25] <charlie-tca> oracle
[13:25] <charlie-tca> still shows 3.2 for -ose in synaptic
[13:25] <jibel> charlie-tca, uninstall it, and install the ose version from the ubuntu rep instead.
[13:26] <jibel> charlie-tca,
[13:26] <jibel> $ apt-cache policy virtualbox-ose
[13:26] <jibel> virtualbox-ose:
[13:26] <jibel>   Installed: 4.0.2-dfsg-1ubuntu1
[13:26] <jibel>   Candidate: 4.0.2-dfsg-1ubuntu1
[13:26] <jibel>   Version table:
[13:26] <jibel>  *** 4.0.2-dfsg-1ubuntu1 0
[13:26] <jibel>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/universe i386 Packages
[13:26] <charlie-tca> I see it today. I will try it
[13:27] <charlie-tca> Thanks, jibel
[13:27] <charlie-tca> jibel: does -ose give you 3d now?
[13:28] <jibel> charlie-tca, yes
[13:28] <charlie-tca> doing it
[13:29] <jibel> charlie-tca, that's the same version than upstream without the proprietary extension packs  (no usb, no e1000 pxe)
[13:29] <charlie-tca> possible power failures today; -18 C today
[13:29] <charlie-tca> It will work for testing then
[13:29] <jibel> oh nice, sunny at least ?
[13:29] <charlie-tca> no, cloudy
[13:30] <jibel> too bad :(
[13:30] <charlie-tca> with 22 mile per hour winds
[13:30] <jibel> it looks like a nice place to avoid ;-)
[13:31] <charlie-tca> I wish :-)
[13:38] <jibel> ara, can you update the topic of the channel please, even if there's no a2 candidate yet ?
[13:44] <ara> jibel, I always forget how to set myself as operator :D
[13:44] <ara> pedro_, ^?
[13:45] <pedro_> ara  /msg  chanserv op #channel
[13:45] <ara> pedro_, thanks
[13:45] <pedro_> you're welcome
[13:53] <jibel> thanks ara
[14:07] <jibel> Hi all,
[14:07] <jibel> thanks for being there to help testing alpha 2 candidates.
[14:08] <charlie-tca> we just keep trying :-)
[14:08] <jibel> unfortunately, X needs fixes and alpha 2 images are not published yet, but that should be done very soonish
[14:09] <jibel> Stay tune folks !
[14:11] <alourie> hello
[14:12] <stgraber> hopefully I'll have my new kvm machine setup by then ;) Nice i7 server with 8GB of RAM and 100Mb/s internet access, that'll make testing a lot faster ;)
[14:13] <alourie> alpha2 images are not up yet, right?
[14:21] <hggdh> jibel, morning, sir. I updated the iso-testing packages, and they are building now for lucid and maverick (natty is already available)
[14:25] <jibel> Good afternoon hggdh, thanks for doing this. I'll think I'll need to update my tests for lucid at least.
[14:25] <jibel> alourie, hello, you're right!
[14:28] <jibel> alourie, we are waiting for new X packages.
[14:31] <hggdh> jibel, no problem. Actually,we need to split it between versions (right now, at least for the server, it is all the same thing...)
[14:42] <alourie> jibel: ah, great
[14:42] <alourie> thanks
[14:47] <tim__> hi guys
[14:47] <jibel> Hi tim__
[14:48] <tim__> im new to testing so how do i get started?
[14:49] <jibel> tim__, thanks for your help. Well at the moment we are waiting for new images, so we are a bit stuck.
[14:50] <tim__> do they release today?
[14:50] <jibel> tim__, during that time if you've not already done so, you can read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures which explains how to test and report results.
[14:50] <tim__> thank you
[14:50] <jibel> tim__, the images to test will be released today, but alpha 2 will be released on thursday.
[14:50] <hggdh> tim__, yes, they will be released today
[14:52] <jibel> tim__, you can also start syncing the current images, this way, once the latest images will be out, you'll just have to sync the difference.
[14:52] <tim__> do you know the percific time because im still in college :)
[14:56] <tim__> i didnt think the alpha 2 would be released today i thought it was half way through it was in middle of febuary
[14:56] <tim__> i just re-read that sentace i fail *face palm*
[15:04] <highvoltage> hey, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ still shows natty alpha 1, shouldn't that be updated for alpha 2 images?
[15:06] <charlie-tca> we don't have alpha2 images yet
[15:08] <jibel> highvoltage and all, the first isos should be available in a bit over an hour and a half.
[15:08] <highvoltage> ok
[15:09] <jibel> during that time you can always sync maverick images to test upgrade test cases once it's ready.
[15:14] <tim__> i have time to get home then :D
[15:20] <tim__> have the important debian freeze been fixed?
[15:20] <tim__> on alpha 1
[15:47] <hggdh> jibel, will the server ISO be reimaged, or just desktop?
[15:51] <jibel> hggdh, cjwatson told me that he would update the tracker when there's something ready for testing.
[15:51] <jibel> and at the moment there's nothing new.
[15:52] <hggdh> jibel, roger, thanks.
[18:19] <charlie-tca> okay, going out for while. will test when I get back.
[18:46] <tim_> hi where can i get the alpha 2?
[18:52] <patrickmw> tim_ alpha 2 candidate is not released yet
[18:52] <tim_> oww
[18:52] <patrickmw> tim_ you can get the latest dev release here though http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[19:25] <skaet> jibel,  cjwatson's just posted ubuntu server images for testing
[19:32] <jibel> hggdh, ^
[19:35] <hggdh> jibel, thanks
[19:36] <hggdh> jibel, Hudson is already on them :-)
[19:36] <jibel> hggdh, you've got a cool job ;-)
[19:36] <hggdh> :-)
[19:37] <hggdh> jibel, now, it just has to work :-)
[19:37] <jibel> hggdh, you could create a hudson job that monitor the server testing jobs, you won't even have to look at the hudson console.
[19:38] <hggdh> jibel, indeed... good idea
[19:48] <jibel> patrickmw, there is a tool called dl-ubuntu-test-iso in the package ubuntu-qa-tools which makes syncing the test images much easier.
[19:49] <patrickmw> jibel, i think you showed me that before
[19:49] <patrickmw> jibel i've been using TestDrive too which has been working ok
[19:50] <jibel> for example to download the xubuntu images on i386 only its: dl-ubuntu-test-iso --flavor=xubuntu --arcg=i386
[19:50] <patrickmw> nice
[19:50] <jibel> you don't have to know the urls on cdimage.u.c
[19:51] <jibel> *--arch
[19:51] <patrickmw> i like how easily we can script the use of the tool
[19:52] <jibel> patrickmw, why do you want to script the use of the tool, it's already a script, if there are missing features you can contribute.
[19:54] <patrickmw> I meant to automation on the greater scheme.. setting up images then automating the config
[19:54] <patrickmw> then running tests, etc
[19:55] <jibel> patrickmw, yeah, you can look at the work from the server team, they are using something similar to sync the images from a hudson job, then run the tests automagically.
[19:56] <patrickmw> :)
[20:21] <jibel> Hey all, kubuntu desktop and alternate posted
[20:21] <jibel> sync and test, go go go
[20:28] <jibel> Who's ready to test kubuntu ?
[20:32]  * fader cranks up the ol' ISO syncing machine.
[20:38] <jibel> I've started kubuntu desktop i386 and amd64
[20:48] <jibel> kubuntu desktop amd64 failed with a ubiquity crash. i386 ok
[20:48] <jibel> starting kubuntu alternate i386 and amd64
[20:49] <pedro_> i'm doing kubuntu alt 386
[20:50] <jibel> okay, since we don't have other images right now, i'll do other test cases for kubuntu desktop
[21:53] <charlie-tca> hm, I'm back. Did I miss anything yet?
[21:59] <jibel> welcome back charlie-tca
[21:59] <jibel> you didn't miss a lot. Still waiting for desktop images.
[22:38] <skaet> xubuntu images have now emerged, and have been pushed out.
[22:41] <charlie-tca> thanks, skaet
[22:44] <fader> Syncing xubuntu desktop amd64 and will start testing it shortly
[22:44]  * fader welcomes any respite from shoveling snow.
[22:45] <charlie-tca> I am syncing too, will start with 386
[22:46] <jibel> thanks skaet
[22:47]  * jibel syncing xubuntu and will test amd64
[22:50] <fader> I'm guessing it's not really worth filing a bug that the wallpaper on the live image says "10.10" yet :)
[22:53] <charlie-tca> won't change until mid march anyway
[22:54] <charlie-tca> but you should have grey panels, xubuntu splash screens, new launcher panel
[22:56] <fader> charlie-tca: Yeah, I figured it wouldn't be until closer to artwork freeze :)
[22:56] <charlie-tca> and I haven't seen it yet, we made the changes, and never got an image since
[22:56] <fader> The new panels and look are really slick though!
[22:56] <charlie-tca> thanks
[22:56] <fader> I like it (except for the part about ubiquity crashing on me twice now :/ )
[22:57] <charlie-tca> hm, yeah, that is not good.
[22:58] <fader> Yeah, reporting a bug now and I'll see if I can narrow down anything that's causing it
[22:58] <charlie-tca> okay
[22:59] <skaet> fader,  can you tell me what version of glew is on the image?
[23:02] <fader> skaet: Sure, one moment
[23:03] <fader> skaet: Nothing matching the string *glew* seems to be installed
[23:03] <fader> libglew1.5 is available but not installed
[23:03] <skaet> fader,  thanks.   my theory isn't valid then.
[23:10] <fader> Hmm, it appears that "shut down" and "reboot" also don't work from the live session... anybody have any idea what package I should tell apport to grab data from to report a bug on that?
[23:10] <fader> (They work from gdm, just not the desktop.)
[23:11] <jibel> fader, gnome-session ?
[23:12] <fader> jibel: That makes sense, thanks
[23:14] <charlie-tca> no
[23:15] <charlie-tca> it's xubuntu, we don't use gnome-session
[23:15] <charlie-tca> let me look it up
[23:15] <charlie-tca> you can always report agains xubuntu-meta  or   xfcd4-session
[23:16] <charlie-tca> s/xfcd4-session/xfce4-session
[23:17] <fader> D'oh, I'll invalidate that one and report it against the right package
[23:17] <fader> Thanks, charlie-tca
[23:17] <charlie-tca> thanks
[23:17] <charlie-tca> it makes it easier to get the xubuntu devs to look if they can find it
[23:18] <fader> Hehe indeed :)
[23:21] <fader> Launchpad, why you got to make me hit you?
[23:23] <skaet> ubuntu alternate is up on the iso tracker now
[23:27] <fader> skaet: If the same bug is breaking multiple test cases do you want it marked in the tracker multiple times?
[23:27] <fader> (E.g. ubiquity is crashing which pretty well kills all the test cases)
[23:27] <skaet> fader, no point in multiple.
[23:27] <fader> I think it might be useful data to see that it's affecting multiple test cases but if that gets in the way I won't do it
[23:28] <fader> skaet: Roger, thanks
[23:28] <skaet> fader: do you have a bug number?   might want to get the dx folk looking at it now.
[23:28] <jibel> fader, bug number ?
[23:28] <fader> skaet: Hmm, there's one I can't go back and clear that I already put in, sorry :(
[23:29] <fader> skaet: bug 711557
[23:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711557 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with TypeError in changed(): value is of wrong type for this column (dup-of: 702898)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711557
[23:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 702898 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with TypeError in changed(): value is of wrong type for this column (affects: 18) (dups: 7) (heat: 84)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702898
[23:29] <skaet> fader, no worries.  :)
[23:30]  * fader starts syncing ubuntu alternate amd64.
[23:30] <hggdh> ah hell. Eucalyptus fails on every instance startup
[23:30] <fader> :(
[23:31] <fader> hggdh: I blame the koalas.
[23:33] <charlie-tca> I really am syncing my image... really
[23:33] <hggdh> fader, bloody koalas
[23:37] <charlie-tca> finally, got the 386 desktop image starting to test
[23:47] <charlie-tca> fader: did you find the hidden panel at the bottom of the desktop?
[23:47] <fader> charlie-tca: Yep, totally by accident :)
[23:51] <charlie-tca> hm, 386 live cd shut down after showing the error
[23:51] <charlie-tca> (on hardware)