| knome | charlie-tca, any possibilities fighting spam on identi.ca? http://identi.ca/nelsonballard4166 is producing a lot of cruft | 01:30 |
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| charlie-tca | just block that person | 02:48 |
| charlie-tca | knome: click on the name, it takes you to their profile. Now click on "Block", then Yes at the bottom | 03:44 |
| mr_pouit | charlie-tca: well, I'm not sure it it's a bug in garcon after all. I think the spec is like that ;-) | 06:44 |
| knome | charlie-tca, i'm not on identi.ca. i'd like to actually fight against the spam, not just ignore it. it's a problem if anybody wants to follow the identi.ca rss/atom feed | 07:15 |
| knome | charlie-tca, this only not makes it impossible to follow if you're not on identi.ca but also renders any website that's aggregating that feed less relevant | 07:17 |
| knome | charlie-tca, and since it seems to be only one user in the #xubuntu tag... | 07:17 |
| knome | charlie-tca, all his messages come from the api, and they all link to some user profiles on various forums and such. that can't be waterproof. | 07:18 |
| knome | anyway, go to RUN | 07:19 |
| knome | see you later | 07:19 |
| ochosi | i've made another iteration of the panel layout etc, this time including a preview of how more "default" looking icons would look there: http://wiki.knome.fi/_detail/shimmer:panel_it4.png?id=shimmer%3Axfce-panel | 07:57 |
| ochosi | s/default/generic | 07:57 |
| ochosi | note: gimp would/could also be replaced by a more generic "painting" icon | 07:57 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: that double entry doesn't exist outside of xfce, even though gnumeric uses the same .desktop file | 13:01 |
| mr_pouit | charlie-tca: mmh, have you tested with another desktop environment? | 13:02 |
| charlie-tca | gnome in ubuntu | 13:03 |
| charlie-tca | I got the office entry, but not the science entry | 13:03 |
| mr_pouit | grmbl, then gnome isn't following the xdg spec | 13:04 |
| charlie-tca | what a surprise :-( | 13:04 |
| charlie-tca | so, back to gnumeric for a fix on it? | 13:04 |
| mr_pouit | maybe, although their .desktop is perfectly fine (its an office & science app, I agree with that) | 13:05 |
| charlie-tca | okay, I can upstream it there too. It's really just an annoyance to have it in two places. | 13:06 |
| mr_pouit | many programs are like that, and that's not new (it has been like that in the previous releases too) | 13:07 |
| charlie-tca | 10.04 only had one entry | 13:08 |
| mr_pouit | yeah, it's xfce 4.4.x, not fully xdg compliant (not at all for menu files) | 13:08 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 13:09 |
| charlie-tca | hm, and the good news for the day. Alpha2 is due thursday, images are broken by X | 13:09 |
| mr_pouit | well, I can edit the xubuntu menu file to be exclusive, so we don't get two entries for the same app | 14:14 |
| charlie-tca | Do we need to? | 14:15 |
| charlie-tca | It isn't like it is a bad thing to have them, really | 14:15 |
| mr_pouit | It's better than asking gnumeric's upstream ot change something that is correct ;-) | 14:15 |
| mr_pouit | but yeah, it's a matter of preferences | 14:15 |
| mr_pouit | I can easily change that in the menu, so we can decide what we prefer anyway | 14:16 |
| charlie-tca | oh, okay. I didn't go upstream there yet. | 14:16 |
| ochosi | i think doing the change downstream for stuff like this is better | 14:16 |
| ochosi | it's just our preference, so we should change it | 14:16 |
| charlie-tca | I will talk to them on irc before I send the bug to them | 14:16 |
| charlie-tca | but not today. Today I broke my system with the updates, VBox won't work for me, and we start testing as soon as they fix X | 14:17 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: we can either change the file or mark the bug wishlist | 14:23 |
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| ochosi | i made a draft for a few default apps in xubuntu that could use icon improvements, it's all wip but you can see it here: http://wiki.knome.fi/shimmer:xubuntu_generic_app_icons | 16:02 |
| ochosi | it's what we talked about wrt more generic app icons | 16:02 |
| charlie-tca | we didn't decide on anything, though | 16:02 |
| ochosi | no | 16:02 |
| ochosi | of course not | 16:03 |
| charlie-tca | I am not sure replacing what is used linux wide for an app is a good idea | 16:03 |
| ochosi | but i want to illustrate my point | 16:03 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: i would *only* replace the launchers in the launcer-panel, not in the menu | 16:03 |
| charlie-tca | Isn't that confusing. If I look in the menu, I see an icon. If I look at the launchers, it isn't there? | 16:04 |
| charlie-tca | I have to remember the icon changed ? | 16:05 |
| ochosi | not sure, we'll have to think about it a while | 16:06 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu images are ready for alpha2 testing | 22:44 |
| j1mc | charlie-tca: can we test in a vm? | 23:25 |
| charlie-tca | sure | 23:25 |
| charlie-tca | xubuntu is good in a vm | 23:25 |
| j1mc | probably one of the few remaining desktops that can be testing in a vm. :) i'll go ahead and give it a try. | 23:25 |
| j1mc | ... i suppose kde can still probably be tested in a vm, though. | 23:26 |
| charlie-tca | thanks, j1mc. | 23:26 |
| charlie-tca | ochosi: we need to unhide the bottom panel. It is only found by those who hit it by mistake | 23:49 |
| charlie-tca | j1mc: are you testing the desktop image? | 23:54 |
| charlie-tca | Want to know if you hit bug 711571 ? | 23:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 711571 in xfce4-session (Ubuntu) ""Reboot" and "Shut down" do not work from live session desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711571 | 23:55 |
| knome | charlie-tca, should the alpha2 images work in vbox 3.2.x? | 23:56 |
| charlie-tca | I don't think so | 23:56 |
| charlie-tca | but I could be wrong | 23:56 |
| knome | right. that makes testing harder than it should be for many. | 23:57 |
| j1mc | charlie-tca: sorry, i'm just doing the alternate | 23:57 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 23:57 |
| knome | do you think there could be more resources put in getting the new alphas working with older vbox versions? | 23:57 |
| charlie-tca | knome: yes, it does, but so does the fact they just upgraded the xserver and nvidia-current is dead | 23:57 |
| knome | probably *ubuntu*-wide... | 23:57 |
| charlie-tca | I don't think that would be a wise use of resources, since the priority is getting natty working | 23:58 |
| charlie-tca | If it fails in older virtual machines, well, ... | 23:58 |
| knome | yeah well, less people to test it (at least less people that are not used to testing and/or 'cutting edge' bugs), less bugs found... | 23:59 |
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