[00:33] <Guest68841> this is my first time any suggestions on how i can get started?
[00:35] <bazhang> !manual | Guest68841 have a read
[00:37] <Guest68841> thanks bazhang but i need help just using irc
[00:37] <Guest68841> where do i find irc - helper
[00:43] <sockPants> is there any difference between ubuntu and xubuntu apart from the desktop?
[00:44] <charlie-tca> sockPants: yes
[00:44] <sockPants> charlie-tca: such as?
[00:44] <charlie-tca> most of the applications, along with the underlying libraries and functions
[00:44] <charlie-tca> !xfce
[00:45] <sockPants> is there any way to uninstall gnome from ubuntu after installing xubuntu-desktop and thereby practically obtaining xubuntu (and getting rid of useless ubuntu leftovers?)
[00:45] <charlie-tca> You can try, sometimes if works and sometimes not. See
[00:45] <charlie-tca> !purexfce
[00:45] <sockPants> thanks, that's great
[00:46] <sockPants> also, if i were upgrading from an older version of ubuntu to xubuntu, what should i do first, upgrade ubuntu and then switch or switch and then upgrade
[00:47] <charlie-tca> Um, probably switch first, the newer it gets, the more difficult it is to remove gnome
[00:48] <sockPants> k, thanks
[00:48] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[02:50] <Calz> hello!
[02:50] <Calz> can anybody help me?
[02:50] <Calz> to install xubuntu
[02:50] <Calz> please...
[02:50] <joshua__> just ask
[02:51] <charlie-tca> How are you installing?
[02:51] <Calz> i'm having the errnor 5
[02:51] <Calz> input/output error
[02:51] <Calz> i'm sure that the problem isn't the cd
[02:51] <charlie-tca> did you burn the image to cd?
[02:52] <Calz> yes
[02:52] <joshua__> checked the md5sum of the iso
[02:52] <Calz> i already did
[02:52] <charlie-tca> did it pass the integrity check?
[02:52] <joshua__> ok
[02:52] <Calz> in my kurumin ^^
[02:52] <charlie-tca> in the machine you are installing to
[02:53] <Calz> in a sempron 1.6, 512 ddr with two samsungs of 80gb
[02:53] <charlie-tca> did it pass the integrity check in the machine you are installing it on?
[02:53] <Calz> in a pcchips  m871g
[02:54] <Calz> what do you mean charlie-tca ?
[02:54] <charlie-tca> when you start the cd, there is a menu. one of the items is "check the cd for defects" or similar.
[02:54] <charlie-tca> run that
[02:55] <Calz> just have a memory test and a hd test
[02:55] <Calz> and my version is 10.10
[02:56] <charlie-tca> this is a xubuntu cd?
[02:56] <charlie-tca> look at item number 3 in the menu after you picked the language
[02:57] <charlie-tca> it says "check disk for defects"
[02:57] <charlie-tca> run it
[02:57] <Calz> charlie-tca, yes i downloaded the iso, burned it and made the md5sum test
[02:57] <charlie-tca> input/output error is a bad burn, or defective hardware
[02:58] <charlie-tca> go back and run the test on the cd in the computer you want to install to
[02:58] <Calz> really?
[02:58] <Calz> hmmm
[02:58] <Calz> ok then
[02:58] <Calz> should i check the cd or my hd ?
[02:58] <charlie-tca> that is from three years of testing these images
[02:59] <charlie-tca> you should do the test I just told you to. put the cd in the drive, pick a language, pick the third entry in the menu
[02:59] <charlie-tca> Check disk for defects
[02:59] <Calz> i have two hds
[03:00]  * likemindead is re-flipping-diculously excited about Xubuntu 11.04 dropping.
[03:00] <Calz> if i found some problem, how can i identify in which it is
[03:00] <charlie-tca> if it finds a problem, it is the cd
[03:01] <charlie-tca> likemindead: me too
[03:01] <Calz> ok, but it will check the hd, doesn't ?
[03:01] <charlie-tca> no
[03:01] <likemindead> I'm using Mint 10 right now & missing Xubuntu something fierce.
[03:01] <likemindead> :-\
[03:01] <charlie-tca> get away from mint then
[03:01] <Calz> sorry, i'm newbie
[03:01] <Calz> i will try
[03:02] <charlie-tca> Calz: you might have to hold the right shift key to bring up the menu
[03:02] <Calz> ok
[03:02] <Calz> look
[03:02] <Calz>  i also have an other cd with the ubuntu 10.10
[03:02] <charlie-tca> I ran these everyday for two years, and three times a week for the last year, I am pretty sure
[03:02] <Calz> that i burned with the same procedure
[03:03] <Calz> /say $server
[03:03] <Calz> =<
[03:03] <charlie-tca> I can burn 10 cd's in a row. 9 will work
[03:03] <Calz> /echo -a $server
[03:03] <Calz> god damn'
[03:03] <Calz> no problem
[03:04] <Calz> i will try
[03:04] <Calz> thanks for the help charlie-tca
[03:04] <charlie-tca> You´re welcome. Good luck...
[03:04] <Calz> also joshua__
[03:04] <Calz> thanks
[03:04] <Calz> bb
[07:03] <Ascavasaion> Yippee!  I tried to install Xubuntu and it died with "Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs  That was about 30 seconds into the bootup.
[07:03] <Ascavasaion> before I even installed it!
[07:03] <Ascavasaion> Whoop whoop!!!
[07:06] <Ascavasaion> Awesome, Xubuntu LiveCD does not work either... how awesome is that?
[07:10] <bazhang> sounds like a bad burn/corrupt iso
[07:11] <bazhang> md5 the iso, reburn at low speed, do the disk integrity check
[07:13] <Ascavasaion> bazhang: HOw does one MD5 an ISO?
[07:14] <bazhang> !md5
[07:15] <Ascavasaion> Thank you bazhang
[07:15] <bazhang> welcome
[07:27] <_Techie_> when installing ubuntu is the meta package ubuntu-desktop marked as installed, or do i need to do extra work when converting my standard install into xubunut
[07:27] <_Techie_> xubuntu*
[07:30] <Ascavasaion> bazhang: I created a file called xubuntu.md5 containing "1fd8dfb8b0097e7f6c4cefa9bdcae7aa *natty-desktop-i386.iso" and then ran the windows application 'md5sum -c xubuntu.md5' and it says the checksum did not match.  Does it mean I must reburn, or redownload?
[07:33] <Ascavasaion> Anyone?
[07:34] <Ascavasaion> Oh, just spotted a md5sum file on the CD itself... oops... brb
[07:42] <Ascavasaion> Hmm, md5sum error ... 1 of 69 files could not be read... do I have to redownload, or reburn the ISO?
[07:46] <bazhang> Ascavasaion, md5 dont match means it is a corrupt iso; did you get this via http, torrent or what
[07:47] <Ascavasaion> bazhang: Off xubuntu site.  ftp I suppose.
[07:48] <bazhang> Ascavasaion, I've always found torrents to be the best/most error-free for downloading, but yes you'd need to get another iso, whichever method you do select
[07:49] <Ascavasaion> bazhang: Aaaah, okay... sigh... there goes my new cap for February :(
[07:50] <bazhang> Ascavasaion, some places have local mirrors that are exempt from cap
[07:50] <faLUCE> hi. Is there a well ubuntu-compatible pci express video capture card (8 video inputs or more) that I can buy?
[07:50] <bazhang> ie Australia being one
[07:50] <bazhang> faLUCE, for mythtv?
[07:50] <faLUCE> bazhang: video sourveillance
[07:50] <faLUCE> bazhang: vlc
[07:52] <bazhang> I'd say hauppage, but that seems to be for PVR and not video surveillance, as far as I know
[07:53] <Ascavasaion> bazhang: Not in 3rd world South Africa :)
[07:54] <bazhang> Ascavasaion, here's a thought; why not check your loco channel, and see if there are any Linux User Groups in your area
[07:54] <bazhang> !za
[07:57] <bazhang> #ubuntu-za is the freenode channel
[08:00] <Ascavasaion> Thanks buddy :)
[08:01] <bazhang> Ascavasaion, they could probably hook you up with a free cd, or know where to get one
[08:02] <Ascavasaion> bazhang: It is okay... I will give it a pass.  I have been struggling with so many Linux distros, and all I wanted was one with a kernel that has VGA arbiter enabled.  Not going to happen it seems, so I think I will be one of those who goes back to good old Windows rubbish.
[08:02] <Ascavasaion> bazhang: Thank you for your help though.  I appreciate it.
[08:34] <kuatoAR> Hello
[08:34] <kuatoAR> greetings from Argentina
[08:34] <kuatoAR> anybody here ?
[08:35] <kuatoAR> @_@
[08:37] <kuatoAR> no ?
[08:37] <kuatoAR> I have a problem, moved from Ubuntu 10.10 to Xubuntu 10.10 , now ... no sound.
[08:38] <TheSheep> kuatoAR: how are you checking?
[08:39] <kuatoAR> checking ?
[08:39] <TheSheep> for sound
[08:39] <TheSheep> what are you doing that should give you sound but doesn't
[08:40] <kuatoAR> playing mp3s and listening to online flash music
[08:40] <kuatoAR> no sound
[08:40] <TheSheep> did you install the restricted codecs for mp3?
[08:40] <kuatoAR> the installation proccess installed an mp3 codec
[08:41] <kuatoAR> at least that was what i've read
[08:41] <kuatoAR> with a check box to select it
[08:41] <TheSheep> ok, open a terminal and type this command, it should make noise "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp", press ctrl+c to stop it
[08:41] <TheSheep> does it make noise?
[08:42] <kuatoAR> and my soundcard is not listed in the mixer, my soundcard is an Encore ENM232-6VIA
[08:42] <kuatoAR> ok, waith a second, i will executa that command
[08:43] <kuatoAR> Denied
[08:43] <kuatoAR> can't execute that
[08:44] <kuatoAR> tryed with sudo, no luck
[08:44] <TheSheep> go to system->users and groups and add yourself to the 'audio' group
[08:45] <TheSheep> then try again
[08:46] <kuatoAR> done
[08:46] <kuatoAR> denied
[08:48] <kuatoAR> xubuntu 10.10 fresh install
[08:49] <TheSheep> can you pastebin the result of "lsmod | grep snd"?
[08:50] <kuatoAR> ok
[08:51] <kuatoAR> http://pastebin.com/wbMNNXXJ
[08:51] <kuatoAR> I think i have an onboard soundcard
[08:51] <TheSheep> looks good
[08:52] <kuatoAR> no sound at all
[08:52] <TheSheep> please start xfce4-mixer and make sure all channels are unmuted
[08:52] <kuatoAR>  xfce4-mixer ? how i do that ?
[08:52] <TheSheep> type 'xfce4-mixer' and press enter
[08:53] <kuatoAR> everything is unmuted
[08:53] <kuatoAR> master selected
[08:53] <TheSheep> make sure to check all sound cards in the dropdown at top
[08:54] <kuatoAR> checked
[08:54] <kuatoAR> ice1724 could be my ENCORE PCI card ?
[08:55] <TheSheep> it could be, no idea
[08:55] <kuatoAR> well no sound hahaha, thanks anyway
[08:55] <TheSheep> ok, next step, install 'pavucontrol' and 'padevchooser' programs
[08:56] <TheSheep> with 'apt-get install name-of-the-program-here'
[08:56] <TheSheep> with sudo
[09:00] <TheSheep> then start padevchooser, it will appear in the system tray, then make sure the right sound card is selected
[09:00] <kuatoAR> nothing
[09:01] <TheSheep> well, that's all I can think of, you can try the advices from:
[09:01] <TheSheep> !sound
[09:01] <TheSheep> and the forums
[09:02] <TheSheep> use "lspci | grep Audio" to see the exact model of your sound card
[09:03] <kuatoAR> I've installed those programs
[09:04] <kuatoAR> nothing appears in the system tray
[09:04] <kuatoAR> @_@
[09:05] <kuatoAR> i must run it ?
[09:09] <residentgrey> hola, i run 9.10 still, my desktop gets a second one over it, only showing removable devices instead of the actual desktop with the trashcan and all that, and i haven't a clue how that happened, or more importantly how to fix it, i tried to 'google' answers but I don't know the right terms to search under, PLZ HALP
[09:10] <kuatoAR> back to xp ! and virus :(
[09:10] <residentgrey> eww
[09:10] <kuatoAR> thanks for your time TheSheep
[09:10] <residentgrey> you try stuff like hiren's CD and Kaperky
[09:10] <residentgrey> *Kapersky
[09:11] <residentgrey> i got a couple nasty bugs out that way
[09:11] <kuatoAR> nothing in forums, my card must be made in "mars" , xubuntu can't identify it
[09:11] <residentgrey> it's venus
[09:11] <residentgrey> we know more of mars than venus
[09:15] <_Techie_> when installing ubuntu is the meta package ubuntu-desktop marked as installed, or do i need to do extra work when converting my standard install into xubuntu
[09:22] <residentgrey> bueller?
[09:39] <Sysi> !purexfce | _Techie_
[09:41] <Sysi> residentgrey: see desktop settings
[09:42] <residentgrey> done it is how i wanted it
[09:42] <residentgrey> but this...is not
[09:42] <residentgrey> i think a program runs on startup once and changes it or smth, or links it with a different config after loading
[09:43] <residentgrey> its not on the startup thing in the cpanel
[09:43] <residentgrey> 'settings manager' etc
[09:48] <Sysi> do yo have nautilus installed?
[09:48] <Sysi> it can do that kinda problems
[09:48] <residentgrey> yup
[09:49] <residentgrey> for dropbox to work i put it in ages ago
[09:49] <residentgrey> no problems till like a week ago
[09:52] <Sysi> i think there is a fix
[09:52] <Sysi> you could try google
[09:53] <residentgrey> that's the first thing i did
[09:53] <residentgrey> but i know not the right terms to search so came here
[09:57] <Sysi> i guess you need to use gconf-editor
[09:58] <residentgrey> but what file do i edit?
[09:58] <residentgrey> i haven't messed with the system in months, ie researching where everything goes and such
[09:58] <Sysi> something about nautilus/desktop
[09:58] <residentgrey> first nix box
[09:58] <residentgrey> why nautilus?
[09:58] <residentgrey> that program has been on here for almost a year
[09:59] <Sysi> hum
[10:00] <residentgrey> i needed it for dropbox
[11:39] <mantise> Hi
[11:39] <mantise> i just installed xfce, but messed up my xfce panels :s moving around with the clock to the other corner
[11:39] <mantise> and cant move it back.. can i reset fxce panels somehow ?
[11:40] <mantise> like !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » <- in gnome
[11:41] <bazhang> !xfce-panels
[11:46] <mantise> hm
[11:47] <mantise> i just made a space bar between firefox icon and the sound options now
[11:48] <mantise> how do i move a terminal to the fxce panel ?
[11:49] <Sysi> add launcher, command is xfce4-terminal
[11:52] <mantise> just make a starter? with xfce4-terminal in the command line ?
[11:52] <mantise> and chose an icon ?
[11:53] <mantise> or isnt that the right way ?
[11:53] <Sysi> no need to command line
[11:53] <Sysi> try, you won't break it
[12:31] <mantise> ok :) works for me, but seems like a wrong way to do it.. i created a element, with xfce4-terminal in the command line
[12:38] <mantise> how do i change the xfce systems langue to ENG ?
[12:42] <thauriswulfa>  is there any sound them for ubuntu
[12:43] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: is there any sound theme for xubuntu.??????/
[12:44] <bazhang> thauriswulfa, patience
[12:44] <thauriswulfa> kk
[14:22] <Calz> charlie-tca: hey, thamks for the assistence yesterday
[14:23] <Calz> thanks*
[14:23] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[14:23] <Calz> and yes, was a cd problem
[14:24] <charlie-tca> Thanks for letting me know
[14:24] <Calz> i tried an ubuntu cd and it worked
[15:14] <Ascavasaion> Would uninstalling OpenOffice lighten the load on Xubuntu, or would it only free up some space?
[15:15] <ablomen> Ascavasaion, only free up space, it uses no other resources if it is not running
[15:16] <charlie-tca> ablomen: doesn't it have a starter thing?
[15:16] <Ascavasaion> ablomen: Can you suggest anything I could uninstall that might help?  I am happy with Abiword as a word processor, Mozilla as the browser, XChat for chatting, and Rhythmbox for music. Other than that I do not need much.
[15:16] <ablomen> charlie-tca, not as far as i am aware, lthe new libreoffice does not have it anyway
[15:17] <charlie-tca> I believe the old openoffice used it, to allow faster starting
[15:18] <ablomen> Ascavasaion, well you can always remove applications if you don't use it, can't hurt, but to make your system faster only disabling services should help
[15:18] <Ascavasaion> ablomen: What services can I do without... Or should I just suck it up and and be happy with it as it is?
[15:18] <ablomen> charlie-tca, yeah the windows version, i have never seen it on the linux version myself
[15:19] <charlie-tca> !purexfce
[15:19] <Ascavasaion> charlie-tca: Perfect!  Thank you :)
[15:19] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[15:20] <charlie-tca> ablomen: I didn't know linux didn't use that. I don't use OpenOffice, myself.
[15:20] <ablomen> charlie-tca, you could be right though, would be scary if it does and i never noticed that
[15:20] <Ascavasaion> I used Abiword for the first time on a PuppyLinux system, and I must say it looks like a lovely little wordprocessor.
[15:20] <charlie-tca> You are probably right about it.
[15:21] <charlie-tca> Ascavasaion: I use abiword and gedit for everything, myself. also gnumeric for the spreadsheet works well
[15:41] <nicofs> I want to install (x)ubuntu on a device that has no internet connection... can i "just download" the packages needed for (x)ubuntu-desktop and save them to a pen drive and put that into the target device? (a minimal ubuntu is already up and running, so dpkg is there. sadly, both devices have differing architectures x86 -> ARM )
[15:43] <TheSheep> !info apt-zip
[15:43] <TheSheep> nicofs: use that ^
[15:44] <Sysi> packages.ubuntu.com should work too
[15:46] <nicofs> TheSheep, how exactly does that work? i don't need to update - i need to install... and download the .debs on x86 for ARM...
[15:49] <TheSheep> nicofs: you run it on your arm as you would normal apt-get
[15:49] <TheSheep> nicofs: instead of downloading the packages, it makes a script that downloads them and zips them up
[15:49] <TheSheep> nicofs: you run the script on any other computer (even windows)
[15:50] <TheSheep> nicofs: then copy the zip file back and continue installation
[15:50] <nicofs> TheSheep, ok... will give it a try... but for that it would need to be installed on the arm without internet... or not?
[15:51] <TheSheep> yes, that one you need to get from packages.ubuntu.com
[15:55] <FloatingGoat> I mean you can create launchers on the panel(sort of a dock?)
[15:57] <nicofs> and i'll use apt-zip like apt-get?
[16:04] <nicofs> "apt-zip-inst -p xubuntu-desktop -m /mnt" something like that?
[18:58] <Guest36942> Hello all, how do I upgrade form Xubuntu 7.04 to 10.04, via the update manager?
[18:58] <Guest36942> or command line
[20:32] <Sysi> !purexfce | TrueNhero
[20:32] <Sysi> !purexfce > TrueNhero
[20:32] <Sysi> ubottu is tupid
[20:33] <Sysi> bad day it seems
[21:16] <toal193> how can I configure thunar to recognize .maff as a filetype other than zip, and open these with firefox instead of file-roller?
[21:19] <toal193> without affecting default action for .zip files, of course!
[21:20] <charlie-tca> toal193: right click the file; choose "Open with...", tell it firefox
[21:20] <charlie-tca> close, and do it again, it will become the default for the file type
[21:21] <Sysi> if it's same kinda issue than with .doc, propably no fix
[21:21] <toal193> it will also associate .zip files with firefox, and I don't want this