[00:33] this is my first time any suggestions on how i can get started? [00:35] !manual | Guest68841 have a read [00:35] Guest68841 have a read: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [00:37] thanks bazhang but i need help just using irc [00:37] where do i find irc - helper [00:43] is there any difference between ubuntu and xubuntu apart from the desktop? [00:44] sockPants: yes [00:44] charlie-tca: such as? [00:44] most of the applications, along with the underlying libraries and functions [00:44] !xfce [00:44] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [00:45] is there any way to uninstall gnome from ubuntu after installing xubuntu-desktop and thereby practically obtaining xubuntu (and getting rid of useless ubuntu leftovers?) [00:45] You can try, sometimes if works and sometimes not. See [00:45] !purexfce [00:45] If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [00:45] thanks, that's great [00:46] also, if i were upgrading from an older version of ubuntu to xubuntu, what should i do first, upgrade ubuntu and then switch or switch and then upgrade [00:47] Um, probably switch first, the newer it gets, the more difficult it is to remove gnome [00:48] k, thanks [00:48] You are welcome === jwkokc is now known as jk_ [02:50] hello! [02:50] can anybody help me? [02:50] to install xubuntu [02:50] please... [02:50] just ask [02:51] How are you installing? [02:51] i'm having the errnor 5 [02:51] input/output error [02:51] i'm sure that the problem isn't the cd [02:51] did you burn the image to cd? [02:52] yes [02:52] checked the md5sum of the iso [02:52] i already did [02:52] did it pass the integrity check? [02:52] ok [02:52] in my kurumin ^^ [02:52] in the machine you are installing to [02:53] in a sempron 1.6, 512 ddr with two samsungs of 80gb [02:53] did it pass the integrity check in the machine you are installing it on? [02:53] in a pcchips m871g [02:54] what do you mean charlie-tca ? [02:54] when you start the cd, there is a menu. one of the items is "check the cd for defects" or similar. [02:54] run that [02:55] just have a memory test and a hd test [02:55] and my version is 10.10 [02:56] this is a xubuntu cd? [02:56] look at item number 3 in the menu after you picked the language [02:57] it says "check disk for defects" [02:57] run it [02:57] charlie-tca, yes i downloaded the iso, burned it and made the md5sum test [02:57] input/output error is a bad burn, or defective hardware [02:58] go back and run the test on the cd in the computer you want to install to [02:58] really? [02:58] hmmm [02:58] ok then [02:58] should i check the cd or my hd ? [02:58] that is from three years of testing these images [02:59] you should do the test I just told you to. put the cd in the drive, pick a language, pick the third entry in the menu [02:59] Check disk for defects [02:59] i have two hds [03:00] * likemindead is re-flipping-diculously excited about Xubuntu 11.04 dropping. [03:00] if i found some problem, how can i identify in which it is [03:00] if it finds a problem, it is the cd [03:01] likemindead: me too [03:01] ok, but it will check the hd, doesn't ? [03:01] no [03:01] I'm using Mint 10 right now & missing Xubuntu something fierce. [03:01] :-\ [03:01] get away from mint then [03:01] sorry, i'm newbie [03:01] i will try [03:02] Calz: you might have to hold the right shift key to bring up the menu [03:02] ok [03:02] look [03:02] i also have an other cd with the ubuntu 10.10 [03:02] I ran these everyday for two years, and three times a week for the last year, I am pretty sure [03:02] that i burned with the same procedure [03:03] /say $server [03:03] =< [03:03] I can burn 10 cd's in a row. 9 will work [03:03] /echo -a $server [03:03] god damn' [03:03] no problem [03:04] i will try [03:04] thanks for the help charlie-tca [03:04] You´re welcome. Good luck... [03:04] also joshua__ [03:04] thanks [03:04] bb [07:03] Yippee! I tried to install Xubuntu and it died with "Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs That was about 30 seconds into the bootup. [07:03] before I even installed it! [07:03] Whoop whoop!!! [07:06] Awesome, Xubuntu LiveCD does not work either... how awesome is that? [07:10] sounds like a bad burn/corrupt iso [07:11] md5 the iso, reburn at low speed, do the disk integrity check [07:13] bazhang: HOw does one MD5 an ISO? [07:14] !md5 [07:14] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [07:15] Thank you bazhang [07:15] welcome [07:27] <_Techie_> when installing ubuntu is the meta package ubuntu-desktop marked as installed, or do i need to do extra work when converting my standard install into xubunut [07:27] <_Techie_> xubuntu* [07:30] bazhang: I created a file called xubuntu.md5 containing "1fd8dfb8b0097e7f6c4cefa9bdcae7aa *natty-desktop-i386.iso" and then ran the windows application 'md5sum -c xubuntu.md5' and it says the checksum did not match. Does it mean I must reburn, or redownload? [07:33] Anyone? [07:34] Oh, just spotted a md5sum file on the CD itself... oops... brb [07:42] Hmm, md5sum error ... 1 of 69 files could not be read... do I have to redownload, or reburn the ISO? [07:46] Ascavasaion, md5 dont match means it is a corrupt iso; did you get this via http, torrent or what [07:47] bazhang: Off xubuntu site. ftp I suppose. [07:48] Ascavasaion, I've always found torrents to be the best/most error-free for downloading, but yes you'd need to get another iso, whichever method you do select [07:49] bazhang: Aaaah, okay... sigh... there goes my new cap for February :( [07:50] Ascavasaion, some places have local mirrors that are exempt from cap [07:50] hi. Is there a well ubuntu-compatible pci express video capture card (8 video inputs or more) that I can buy? [07:50] ie Australia being one [07:50] faLUCE, for mythtv? [07:50] bazhang: video sourveillance [07:50] bazhang: vlc [07:52] I'd say hauppage, but that seems to be for PVR and not video surveillance, as far as I know [07:53] bazhang: Not in 3rd world South Africa :) [07:54] Ascavasaion, here's a thought; why not check your loco channel, and see if there are any Linux User Groups in your area [07:54] !za [07:57] #ubuntu-za is the freenode channel [08:00] Thanks buddy :) [08:01] Ascavasaion, they could probably hook you up with a free cd, or know where to get one [08:02] bazhang: It is okay... I will give it a pass. I have been struggling with so many Linux distros, and all I wanted was one with a kernel that has VGA arbiter enabled. Not going to happen it seems, so I think I will be one of those who goes back to good old Windows rubbish. [08:02] bazhang: Thank you for your help though. I appreciate it. [08:34] Hello [08:34] greetings from Argentina [08:34] anybody here ? [08:35] @_@ [08:37] no ? [08:37] I have a problem, moved from Ubuntu 10.10 to Xubuntu 10.10 , now ... no sound. [08:38] kuatoAR: how are you checking? [08:39] checking ? [08:39] for sound [08:39] what are you doing that should give you sound but doesn't [08:40] playing mp3s and listening to online flash music [08:40] no sound [08:40] did you install the restricted codecs for mp3? [08:40] the installation proccess installed an mp3 codec [08:41] at least that was what i've read [08:41] with a check box to select it [08:41] ok, open a terminal and type this command, it should make noise "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp", press ctrl+c to stop it [08:41] does it make noise? [08:42] and my soundcard is not listed in the mixer, my soundcard is an Encore ENM232-6VIA [08:42] ok, waith a second, i will executa that command [08:43] Denied [08:43] can't execute that [08:44] tryed with sudo, no luck [08:44] go to system->users and groups and add yourself to the 'audio' group [08:45] then try again [08:46] done [08:46] denied [08:48] xubuntu 10.10 fresh install [08:49] can you pastebin the result of "lsmod | grep snd"? [08:50] ok [08:51] http://pastebin.com/wbMNNXXJ [08:51] I think i have an onboard soundcard [08:51] looks good [08:52] no sound at all [08:52] please start xfce4-mixer and make sure all channels are unmuted [08:52] xfce4-mixer ? how i do that ? [08:52] type 'xfce4-mixer' and press enter [08:53] everything is unmuted [08:53] master selected [08:53] make sure to check all sound cards in the dropdown at top [08:54] checked [08:54] ice1724 could be my ENCORE PCI card ? [08:55] it could be, no idea [08:55] well no sound hahaha, thanks anyway [08:55] ok, next step, install 'pavucontrol' and 'padevchooser' programs [08:56] with 'apt-get install name-of-the-program-here' [08:56] with sudo [09:00] then start padevchooser, it will appear in the system tray, then make sure the right sound card is selected [09:00] nothing [09:01] well, that's all I can think of, you can try the advices from: [09:01] !sound [09:01] If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [09:01] and the forums [09:02] use "lspci | grep Audio" to see the exact model of your sound card [09:03] I've installed those programs [09:04] nothing appears in the system tray [09:04] @_@ [09:05] i must run it ? [09:09] hola, i run 9.10 still, my desktop gets a second one over it, only showing removable devices instead of the actual desktop with the trashcan and all that, and i haven't a clue how that happened, or more importantly how to fix it, i tried to 'google' answers but I don't know the right terms to search under, PLZ HALP [09:10] back to xp ! and virus :( [09:10] eww [09:10] thanks for your time TheSheep [09:10] you try stuff like hiren's CD and Kaperky [09:10] *Kapersky [09:11] i got a couple nasty bugs out that way [09:11] nothing in forums, my card must be made in "mars" , xubuntu can't identify it [09:11] it's venus [09:11] we know more of mars than venus [09:15] <_Techie_> when installing ubuntu is the meta package ubuntu-desktop marked as installed, or do i need to do extra work when converting my standard install into xubuntu [09:22] bueller? [09:39] !purexfce | _Techie_ [09:39] _Techie_: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [09:41] residentgrey: see desktop settings [09:42] done it is how i wanted it [09:42] but this...is not [09:42] i think a program runs on startup once and changes it or smth, or links it with a different config after loading [09:43] its not on the startup thing in the cpanel [09:43] 'settings manager' etc [09:48] do yo have nautilus installed? [09:48] it can do that kinda problems [09:48] yup [09:49] for dropbox to work i put it in ages ago [09:49] no problems till like a week ago [09:52] i think there is a fix [09:52] you could try google [09:53] that's the first thing i did [09:53] but i know not the right terms to search so came here [09:57] i guess you need to use gconf-editor [09:58] but what file do i edit? [09:58] i haven't messed with the system in months, ie researching where everything goes and such [09:58] something about nautilus/desktop [09:58] first nix box [09:58] why nautilus? [09:58] that program has been on here for almost a year [09:59] hum [10:00] i needed it for dropbox [11:39] Hi [11:39] i just installed xfce, but messed up my xfce panels :s moving around with the clock to the other corner [11:39] and cant move it back.. can i reset fxce panels somehow ? [11:40] like !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » <- in gnome [11:41] !xfce-panels [11:41] Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [11:46] hm [11:47] i just made a space bar between firefox icon and the sound options now [11:48] how do i move a terminal to the fxce panel ? [11:49] add launcher, command is xfce4-terminal [11:52] just make a starter? with xfce4-terminal in the command line ? [11:52] and chose an icon ? [11:53] or isnt that the right way ? [11:53] no need to command line [11:53] try, you won't break it [12:31] ok :) works for me, but seems like a wrong way to do it.. i created a element, with xfce4-terminal in the command line [12:38] how do i change the xfce systems langue to ENG ? [12:42] is there any sound them for ubuntu [12:43] QUESTION: is there any sound theme for xubuntu.??????/ [12:44] thauriswulfa, patience [12:44] kk === calebe is now known as Calz === calebe is now known as Calz [14:22] charlie-tca: hey, thamks for the assistence yesterday [14:23] thanks* [14:23] You are welcome [14:23] and yes, was a cd problem [14:24] Thanks for letting me know [14:24] i tried an ubuntu cd and it worked [15:14] Would uninstalling OpenOffice lighten the load on Xubuntu, or would it only free up some space? [15:15] Ascavasaion, only free up space, it uses no other resources if it is not running [15:16] ablomen: doesn't it have a starter thing? [15:16] ablomen: Can you suggest anything I could uninstall that might help? I am happy with Abiword as a word processor, Mozilla as the browser, XChat for chatting, and Rhythmbox for music. Other than that I do not need much. [15:16] charlie-tca, not as far as i am aware, lthe new libreoffice does not have it anyway [15:17] I believe the old openoffice used it, to allow faster starting [15:18] Ascavasaion, well you can always remove applications if you don't use it, can't hurt, but to make your system faster only disabling services should help [15:18] ablomen: What services can I do without... Or should I just suck it up and and be happy with it as it is? [15:18] charlie-tca, yeah the windows version, i have never seen it on the linux version myself [15:19] !purexfce [15:19] If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [15:19] charlie-tca: Perfect! Thank you :) [15:19] You are welcome [15:20] ablomen: I didn't know linux didn't use that. I don't use OpenOffice, myself. [15:20] charlie-tca, you could be right though, would be scary if it does and i never noticed that [15:20] I used Abiword for the first time on a PuppyLinux system, and I must say it looks like a lovely little wordprocessor. [15:20] You are probably right about it. [15:21] Ascavasaion: I use abiword and gedit for everything, myself. also gnumeric for the spreadsheet works well [15:41] I want to install (x)ubuntu on a device that has no internet connection... can i "just download" the packages needed for (x)ubuntu-desktop and save them to a pen drive and put that into the target device? (a minimal ubuntu is already up and running, so dpkg is there. sadly, both devices have differing architectures x86 -> ARM ) [15:43] !info apt-zip [15:43] apt-zip (source: apt-zip): Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.18 (maverick), package size 20 kB, installed size 128 kB [15:43] nicofs: use that ^ [15:44] packages.ubuntu.com should work too [15:46] TheSheep, how exactly does that work? i don't need to update - i need to install... and download the .debs on x86 for ARM... [15:49] nicofs: you run it on your arm as you would normal apt-get [15:49] nicofs: instead of downloading the packages, it makes a script that downloads them and zips them up [15:49] nicofs: you run the script on any other computer (even windows) [15:50] nicofs: then copy the zip file back and continue installation [15:50] TheSheep, ok... will give it a try... but for that it would need to be installed on the arm without internet... or not? [15:51] yes, that one you need to get from packages.ubuntu.com [15:55] I mean you can create launchers on the panel(sort of a dock?) [15:57] and i'll use apt-zip like apt-get? [16:04] "apt-zip-inst -p xubuntu-desktop -m /mnt" something like that? [18:58] Hello all, how do I upgrade form Xubuntu 7.04 to 10.04, via the update manager? [18:58] or command line [20:32] !purexfce | TrueNhero [20:32] TrueNhero: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [20:32] !purexfce > TrueNhero [20:32] ubottu is tupid [20:33] bad day it seems [21:16] how can I configure thunar to recognize .maff as a filetype other than zip, and open these with firefox instead of file-roller? [21:19] without affecting default action for .zip files, of course! [21:20] toal193: right click the file; choose "Open with...", tell it firefox [21:20] close, and do it again, it will become the default for the file type [21:21] if it's same kinda issue than with .doc, propably no fix [21:21] it will also associate .zip files with firefox, and I don't want this === zorro is now known as Guest38382