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m_conleychrisccoulson: ping01:36
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achiangany libgtk2.0 packaging experts around?04:52
* achiang is trying to figure out how to backport maverick's libgtk2.0 into lucid without getting caught in a spiraling maze of versioned build-dependencies, and could use some advice04:53
TheMusoachiang: You will probably have to wait till seb128 is around.05:04
achiangTheMuso: ah, thanks. i think i'm picking my way through the easier ones, perhaps by the time i get to the hard ones, seb128 will be awake again. :)05:05
kvalomorning06:25
smspillazkvalo: morning :)06:54
didrocksgood morning07:41
kvalodidrocks: good morning. how's the life in france?07:44
didrockskvalo: cold, but I guess not as cold as for you :)07:44
didrockskvalo: and you?07:44
kvaloit's warm here, 0 C :) not much sun though...07:45
didrocks0° C <-> warm. SIGSEV :)07:49
\sh*grmpf* ../NuxGraphics/.libs/libnux-graphics-0.9.so: undefined reference to 'gluErrorString' , building nux from trunk whoosa07:49
oSoMoNgood morning07:50
kvalodidrocks: :)07:54
kvalooSoMoN: good morning07:54
oSoMoNhi kvalo, how is it going?07:57
kvalooSoMoN: I'm good, thanks. how are you?07:58
oSoMoNkvalo: very good, thank you07:59
MacSlowhey folks08:05
oSoMoNhey MacSlow08:07
MacSlowhi oSoMoN08:07
apware places menus known to have broken scrollbars?08:37
apwalso are they known to take a very long time to populate08:37
didrocksapw: there is a bug report about it08:38
didrocksfor both08:38
didrocksapw: try to look at unity bugs if you can add additional infos:)08:38
apwdidrocks, its hard to add info when you can't interact with any of your windows most of the time08:39
apwdidrocks, its a rather regualar failure mode for me08:39
didrocksapw: oh you mean, you can't click on your window?08:39
* apw dumps his natty laptop on the useless stack08:39
didrocksbut keyboard stil works?08:39
apwdidrocks, indeed08:39
didrockssmspillaz: do you need live info ? ^^08:39
didrocksapw: this is a really annoying info, hard to reproduce though08:39
didrocksapw: we have a bug about it if we are interested, one second, though08:40
apwdidrocks, i've had it 3-4 logins recently08:40
smspillazapw: run xwininfo -all in a terminal and click on the "dead region"08:40
didrocksapw: I have it sometimes a lot in the morning, and no more for the whole day…08:40
smspillazalso post your xwininfo -root -tree08:40
apwsmspillaz, the dead region is all of my screen08:40
smspillazare you running unity ?08:40
apwsmspillaz, unity yes08:40
smspillazapw: the bug is that there is some window that isn't painted that is there08:40
smspillazand I'm currently trying to fix it :)08:41
apwsmspillaz, yeah and i think its a modal dialog08:41
smspillazwhat application?08:41
apwbut i can't interact with it either, so i can't get rid of it08:41
* apw can't tell as it is invisible, and uninteractible08:41
didrocksapw: FYI, it's bug #709461 if you want to follow it08:42
ubot5Launchpad bug 709461 in Unity "semi-random invisible window with x geometry on top layer possible, all viewport only (one ws though)" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70946108:42
didrockssmspillaz: some to be $random application in any case, as I had eog, ccsm…08:42
apwdidrocks, what does this window look like in xwininfo08:43
didrocksapw: if you just run xwininfo (you need to ctrl + alt + t to open a terminal) you should be able to click on it08:43
didrocksand it dumps the info of where you click08:43
didrockswhich should be the "invisible window" then08:43
smspillazyeah08:44
apwdidrocks, oh its xchat apparently08:44
apwi'll get the info on the bug08:44
didrocksok, was disconnected from freenode…08:46
didrocks09:44:47  didrocks | oh, it's really $random apps I guess :/08:46
didrocks09:45:04  didrocks | thanks08:46
didrocks09:45:27  didrocks | apw: btw, restarting unity (running unity) should help08:46
didrocks09:45:37  didrocks | apw: if not, you can try metacity --replace and then run unity08:46
apwdidrocks, smspillaz, ok i have added the wininfo for the lost window and the complete stack, to the bug ... anything else you want off the machine?08:48
apwalso anyone got the bug number for the scrollbars not existing08:49
didrocksapw: not handy, but looking for "scrollbar" in the unity bugs should give it to you pretty straightforward08:49
apwfinally :)  are the windows incredibly slow to fill in for everyone else?  mine take 15-20 before there is anything on them08:49
didrocksI filed it on Monday08:49
apw(windows == places windows)08:49
didrocksapw: and you, same there is one about it, there is no optimization for this release08:50
didrocksI also filed it on Monday08:50
apwok08:50
\shdidrocks: when you find the time, please review bug #711717 (branch for merging attached)08:50
didrocksapw: I think there are enough info, thanks!08:50
ubot5Launchpad bug 711717 in Nux "Nux trunk FTBFS under natty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71171708:50
* apw notes for this stacking bug, that although this is xchat running the launcher does not have the ><'s on it for xchat08:50
didrocks\sh: excellent, thanks!08:50
didrocksapw: oh? this is not known08:51
didrocksapw: please file a bug about it08:51
* apw tries to get a screen shot08:51
didrocksapw: affecting unity and bamf08:51
apwack08:51
apwok to do that i am going to have to kill off this xchat to get to the bug dialogs ... so last chance for more info on it08:53
didrocksapw: oh know, wait08:53
* apw waits08:53
didrocksapw: the no match on the launcher is because of the window not mapped08:54
didrocksapw: so, it's no a bug08:54
apwdidrocks, ok i'll mention it in the original bug only08:54
didrocksit's just a side effect :)08:54
didrocksyeah, thanks!08:54
apwdidrocks, unity really needs a 'kill -USR1 <pid>' to tell it to dump its stacking order information out or something, or turn on debug in general08:55
didrocksapw: there is some work on that, we not totally finished08:56
didrocksbut*08:56
smspillazapw: ccsm -> debug spewer -> change the keybinding08:57
didrocksand we already have too much stuff on our plate for just features08:57
didrockssmspillaz: it's crashing for me, do you remember? :)08:57
smspillazright :/08:57
apwok if there is nothing else i can add to the bug, i'll try killing off xchat and see if that resolves the issue or if minds are already lost08:58
apwdidrocks, ok i killed xchat and the 'gap' is still there terms of focus tracking09:02
apwstarting a new xchat means that whereever i put that on the screen it still gets focus for the old area, and its new area09:02
didrocksapw: weird, you should rather rerun unity09:02
kvalocan I have branches inside one repository, just like git does? I hate it that I need create a new directory for each branch09:03
apwdidrocks, so i assume that the input tracking is done by unity ?09:03
kvaloand talking about bzr, of course09:03
apwkvalo, i think there is an extension for that09:03
didrocksapw: compiz has some09:03
apwdidrocks, so i suspect that that is where the issue is then09:03
kvaloapw: great. do you happen to remember the name? :)09:03
apwkvalo, hrm no sorry not a big bzr user09:05
kvaloapw: thanks. you gave me motivation to find it :)09:05
apwkvalo, possibly you can do it with bzr switch, "set up a shared repository with the --no-trees option together with lightweight checkout"09:09
apwif those words mean anything to you09:10
apwperhaps the 'colo' plugin09:10
kvaloapw: heh, I wish :)09:10
apwhttp://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/GitStyleBranches09:10
kvaloapw: excellent, thanks a lot!09:11
smspillazdidrocks: ARGH you were right09:11
smspillazls ~/.compiz-1/plugins -> libunityshell.so09:11
smspillaz*removes*09:11
* didrocks stares at smspillaz :)09:12
smspillazyay, now I have a unity back09:12
smspillazapw: out of curiousity, which application is the one which had the invisible window which is blocking everything ?09:12
didrockssmspillaz: I'll do a unity --distro :)09:12
smspillazindeed :P09:13
apwsmspillaz, in my case it was xchat09:15
apwxchats main window09:15
smspillazok09:17
smspillazah ok, reproduced it09:23
smspillazok, looks like the window is tracked initially and then unreparented09:27
\shhmm..this is strange09:28
apwoh is the top left logo window meant to have anything in it?  its empty for me09:29
apwsmspillaz, ^^09:33
didrocksapw: it is09:36
smspillazapw: I only work on compiz :) so I wouldn't know much about the unity panels and launcher09:36
apwsmspillaz, ahh thanks :)09:36
apwdidrocks, whats it meant to have in it, and i assume its known that it does not so contain09:37
didrocksapw: the same content than in maverick version, prefered apps and such09:37
cando_guys, building last nux from trunk fails: http://pastebin.com/UH7StuR409:38
apwdidrocks, ok so thats missing09:38
didrocksyeah, still an early place draft09:38
\shcando_: bug #71171709:39
ubot5Launchpad bug 711717 in Nux "Nux trunk FTBFS under natty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71171709:39
cando_ok thanks09:39
\shcando_: fix is there09:39
cando_:)09:39
apwsmspillaz, just for you compiz just core dumped on login for me09:41
apware random hangs/compiz dumps as 3/4 logins known ?09:46
smspillazapw: got a bug # for that?09:49
smspillazapw: ah right, might be the places issue09:49
apwno i've given filing bugs on it, as mostly the filing bug process dies too09:49
apwand finally after 4 attempts i have a desktop with some interactible icons ..09:50
apwsmspillaz, if i ever manage to get one i'll let you know09:51
smspillazok09:51
cando_\sh, ok build flawlessy...thanks09:58
kvalokamstrup: does "G_PARAM_READABLE | G_PARAM_CONSTRUCT_ONLY" make sense?09:58
kvalokamstrup: for a property which is only set in the constructor and read otherwise09:58
smspillazdidrocks: I love it when this happens - I try to open geany to edit the source, and the bug happens to it -_-10:07
smspillazsee the compiz bugs have minds of their own ;-)10:07
didrockssmspillaz: ahah, like for me with ccsm yesterday to set a debug shortcut? :)10:07
smspillazyeah :p10:07
kamstrupkvalo: it needs to be G_PARAM_READWRITE | G_PARAM_CONSTRUCT_ONLY10:08
kvalokamstrup: oh. I'll fix that, thanks10:08
kamstrupkvalo: otherwise you'll get complaints from glib when you try and set the prop on construction time10:09
ronockamstrup, njpatel anyone know a way to easily deep copy a GArray10:09
ronoccan't see it in the api10:09
smspillazdidrocks: btw, do you know if there's any way to make bzr not rebuild the *entire* source package on bzr bd-do?10:09
ronocglist has a nice convenience function for  it but not garray10:09
didrockssmspillaz: unfortunately not and it removes the build-area10:10
kamstrupronoc: GArray is a boxed type so you can do:10:10
didrockssmspillaz: if you just want to test something10:10
didrockssmspillaz: like, don't use the patch system10:10
kamstrupronoc: GArray copy = g_boxed_copy (G_TYPE_ARRAY, my_array);10:11
didrockssmspillaz: you can bzr bd-do ; quilt push -a ; make your changes ; debuild -nc10:11
didrocks(and then make your changes ; debuild -nc …)10:11
smspillazdidrocks: cool10:11
ronockamstrup, oh lovely thx10:11
didrockssmspillaz: take care to not exit!10:11
smspillazlovely10:11
smspillazdidrocks: yeah10:11
didrockssmspillaz: as it will destroy the build-area :)10:11
smspillazyeah10:11
didrockssmspillaz: also, your changes will be in no patch, so take care!10:11
kvalokamstrup: that's black magic! ;)10:12
kamstrupkvalo: you need to learn to love the boxed types! ;-)10:13
kvalogobject: voodoo for the programmers10:13
kvalokamstrup: yeah, sure. after a lobotomy ;)10:13
kamstrupkvalo: that can be arranged10:13
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klattimermorning johnlea10:50
johnleaklattimer; morning10:51
klattimerjohnlea: will want to pick your brains probably about timezone matching at some point10:51
johnleaklattimer; ok, is it really urgent or can we do it towards the end of next week10:52
klattimernext week will probably be fine10:53
\shdidrocks: thx :)11:05
didrocks\sh: thanks to you :)11:05
\shjcastro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity <- the instruction to build unity on maverick is wrong...first, there is no gsettings-desktop-schemas-dev in maverick, so this doesn't work, I wonder if we just drop this section and tell the people to not try to build it on maverick...11:10
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kvalokamstrup: g_value_dup_object()? huh, quite a misleading name11:44
kamstrupkvalo: yeah, but internally consistent with the rest of the gvalue api at least11:59
kvalokamstrup: true11:59
ronocnjpatel, is there a log for the unity-panel-service I can tail ?12:17
cando_hi guys, i've a small problem: i can't run unity from trunk anymore...i mean: i've build nux and unity, setted up the env , typed compiz --replace, but always starts the "old" unity...what i'm doing wrong?12:34
cando_last week i was able to run unity from trunk...12:34
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cando_\sh, you there?13:02
kvalokamstrup: I have a problem with annotatations, any idea what's wrong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/561388/13:43
kamstrupkvalo: looks odd...13:48
kvalokamstrup: g-ir-scanner is giving other warnings as well. I'll fix those first13:49
kvalomaybe it magically disappers :)13:52
cando_didrocks, you got a moment?13:55
didrockscando_: not really know, fixing some crash for alpha213:56
cando_ok no problem..:)13:56
didrockscando_: in 3h, I think it should be fine13:56
didrockssorry :/13:56
cando_ok thanks!13:56
rsajdokI have a problem with the installation of the "guest additions" in today's version of "natty" any suggestions? http://paste.ubuntu.com/561389/13:57
kvalokamstrup: argh, a colon was missing after the function name...13:59
spikebhmm13:59
spikebrsajdok, that doesn't look good13:59
rsajdokspikeb: :)14:01
spikebman, i was going to try running natty (and the new unity) on virtualbox too.14:02
* spikeb sighs14:02
rsajdok\sh: There are problems in natty also.14:04
didrockssmspillaz: the fix is working14:06
smspillazdidrocks: nice14:07
smspillazdidrocks: so at least we know what is broken14:07
didrockssmspillaz: yeah, I'll commit the fix in git if you want as the core components should rather use this as you told14:08
smspillazindeed14:08
smspillazjust replace all of the s->getOptions with that14:08
didrocksyeah, will do :)14:08
smspillazerr14:08
smspillazs->getOption'14:08
didrocksgot it, no worry :)14:08
smspillaz:)14:08
smspillazthere is actually an s->getOptions () which serves a completely different purpose :p14:09
didrocksargh ;)14:15
didrocksnaming :)14:15
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klattimergah, trapsing through the evolution source code I discover bugs bugs bugs... URI opening is broken because it wrongly detects "--import" on the command line, and the URI seems to not get passed correctly to running instances...14:34
klattimerI hate evolution14:35
* smspillaz -> bed14:36
chrisccoulsonm_conley_away, there?14:36
jcastro\sh: oh nice catch, thanks14:36
\shjcastro: updated as well the build-deps with some packages which were missing14:41
jcastrohmm, DBO just updated those the other day14:42
jcastrobut adding more won't hurt I guess14:42
lamalexnjpatel, how do you set your borders to 0 px?14:42
\shjcastro: gnome-common and libpcre3-dev were definitly missing ;)14:42
\shjcastro: and I wonder if bug #692444 is really a bitesize ;) it needs IMHO a lot of refurbish of the startup code of the trash folder14:43
ubot5Launchpad bug 692444 in Unity "clicking trash multiple times opens multiple instances of it." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69244414:43
jcastrowell, cando snagged it so who knows14:46
jcastroare you looking for one no one is working on?14:46
didrocksbug #692444 is definitively not a bitesize one14:47
ubot5Launchpad bug 692444 in Unity "clicking trash multiple times opens multiple instances of it." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69244414:47
didrocksbut if cando_ can get it :)14:47
jcastrocando_'s becoming large bug man14:47
didrockscando_: btw, I'm more available right now if you stil have your question14:48
njpatellamalex, /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-foo.xml, there are some settings for frame borders, you can set them to 0px. Or use my AmbianceThin theme http://bit.ly/h9XCYe14:48
\shdidrocks: I was wondering if replacing g_spawn_command_line_async with g_spawn_async_with_pipes, catching the pid, adding a callback for cleaning up when pid is destroyed, and iterating over all gdk toplevel windows and focusing the right one is a good approach14:48
didrocks\sh: no, that's evil and slow :)14:49
\shanyways...hp technician is waiting for me, bbl14:49
lamalexnjpatel, sweet thanks14:50
njpatellamalex, actually, grab it again, the latest has the shadow bits too14:51
cando_didrocks, i'm digging into that bug..and i'm very lucky! everytime i choose a bug it not so "bitesize"..:)14:52
didrockscando_: getting it done is just a real pleasure then :)14:52
lamalexnjpatel, I just grabbed it as I said "sweet thanks" so I'm probably ok14:52
lamalexthe shadow looks lighter14:52
cando_yeah my question is: i've a small problem: i can't run unity from trunk anymore...i mean: i've build nux and unity, setted up the env , typed compiz --replace, but always starts the "old" unity..14:52
njpatellamalex, of the main window? yeah it should be lighter and have a bigger radius14:52
cando_now i'm copying lbunityshell.so from opt/unity/compiz/bin to /usr/lib/compiz and it works..but i guess it's not the right thing to do14:53
lamalexcando_, where are you installing unity to?14:53
lamalexcando_, I use this for my cmake generator line14:53
lamalexcmake .. -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug -DCOMPIZ_PLUGIN_INSTALL_TYPE=local -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local14:53
cando_i'm following this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/InstallationGuideFromSource14:53
cando_ah ok14:54
lamalexthat installs to .compiz-1/plugins or something14:54
cando_it's diffent..the page i've linked says to install in opt14:54
lamalexyeah that's a way14:54
lamalexTry using my cmake jawn14:54
lamalexsee if it works for you14:54
cando_ok trying...thanks lamalex14:54
lamalexthe difference is that you have to set up the env for the opt one14:54
lamalexcompiz will always prefer the one in .compiz-1/plugins14:55
njpatelcando_, make sure -DCOMPIZ_PLUGIN_INSTALL_TYPE=local is on the cmake line for UNity, so it installs into ~/.compiz-1/plugins/14:55
njpatelcando_, that will ghost the system one and allow you to easily recovered if/when we break trunk :)14:55
cando_njpatel, building...:) i'll let you know in a second14:56
njpateloh, sorry, didn't see eariler comments14:57
cando_njpatel, lamalex , btw this page should be updated??https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/InstallationGuideFromSource    it doens't work in that way..14:58
lamalexMacSlow, I'm doing your keynav review now14:58
MacSlowlamalex, thanks!14:58
MacSlowlamalex, btw... adding the check for Shift for Shift-F10, which I forgot... so keep that in mind when reviewing/testing14:59
lamalexMacSlow, where are you adding it?15:07
MacSlowlamalex, in the same branch... but it turned out that I first need to fix something in nux which is missing in order to allow checking for the key-modifier state15:08
MacSlowso I'm doing that (fixing nux) right now15:08
lamalexk15:08
klattimer*sigh* david barths internet has a shorter continuity period than a sentence15:09
cando_njpatel, ok works flawlessy..thanks15:11
njpatelawesome!15:11
lamalexMacSlow, do I need a different nux branch for this?15:12
MacSlowlamalex, nux trunk should do15:15
lamalexMacSlow, ok, maybe im a few revs behind15:16
MacSlowlamalex, there are some patches that were merged recently to nux regarding keyboard-focus handling... loicm did them... check the bzr log of the nux-branch you have15:19
lamalexhaha MacSlow I get a massive compiler error trying to build your branch15:24
MacSlowlamalex, just checking the state of nux trunk15:25
lamalexMacSlow, what nux trunk rev do you have?15:28
MacSlowlamalex, rev 191 two days old like I said15:29
AmaranthI didn't think I would care when running classic desktop but wow, that 50 pixels you lose to panels really makes a difference15:29
MacSlowAmaranth, 50 px ?!15:30
MacSlowAmaranth, how huge did you set your font?15:30
AmaranthMacSlow: 25 per panel15:30
AmaranthOr 24, forget15:30
MacSlowAmaranth, but we still have the panel at the top15:30
MacSlowso it would be only 25px gained15:30
AmaranthMacSlow: Not when the window is maximized :)15:30
MacSlowAmaranth, ah... that way you're going... ok15:31
MacSlowlamalex, still compiling the current nux trunk15:38
MacSlowlamalex, I'm getting similar compile-errors here... now looking at the commit history to figure out which commit is the culprit for htis15:41
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MacSlowlamalex, my guess is nux rev194 messed things up15:43
MacSlowloicm, did you test-compile unity against nux when you pushed nux r194? Did that work cleanly?15:45
loicmMacSlow: I had to break the nux API to make that change (r194)15:48
loicmMacSlow: Unity needs a fix I pushed at r81315:48
MacSlowloicm, so we need to update unity then to reflect that?!15:49
loicmMacSlow: yes15:49
MacSlowok15:49
MacSlowlamalex, ^^15:49
MacSlowlamalex, since my branch isn't based on that it explains the break15:49
MacSlowlamalex, I'll try to rebase and see how that goes15:50
loicmMacSlow: If updating is problematic, that's a one line patch15:50
lamalexok15:51
lamalexMacSlow, let me know when your branch is updated15:52
lamalexcyphermox, what was the status of your multi-monitor branch?16:01
cyphermoxlamalex, still not working16:03
cyphermoxI haven't really had time to get back to it16:03
lamalexcyphermox, do you have any idea what the problem was?16:03
cyphermoxlamalex, not really. I was told by jaytaoko it might be related to how nux handles monitor size updates, but I couldn't dig into it16:04
lamalexcyphermox, ok16:04
lamalexthanks for the headstart, I'm going to take a look at it16:04
lamalexit's driving me nuts :{16:04
cyphermoxlamalex, right now, it works fine when unity starts, but fails to redraw the regions after a size change16:04
lamalexhm, well that's at least an improvement.16:05
cyphermoxlamalex, the panel and launcher *do* react to mouse events for example at the right place, though, it's just not drawn correctly16:05
lamalexoh weird16:05
MacSlowloicm, lamalex: rebased my branch on current unity trunk... just pushing it now16:05
cyphermoxI think I wasn't far, just no idea what's missing ;)16:05
MacSlowloicm, lamalex: compiles and runs fine16:05
cyphermoxlamalex, let me put two minutes to update the branch and clean up the unnecessary garbage :)16:07
lamalexcyphermox, sure16:07
lamalexcyphermox, if we can just have it working on start, it'd at least be SOMETHING until we figure out what's going on in nux with redraw16:07
lamalexbecause for me right now, a good portion of my launcher is obscured16:07
lamalexand it's almost unusable16:08
lamalexneed to alt tab to get to most things16:08
cyphermoxsame for me. it's annoying, but I got used to it  ^.^16:09
MacSlowlamalex, just cleaning up your stated issues16:09
om26er@anyone_from_design in gnome session there is a arrow on the ubuntu logo http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=135775 and seems there is a patch rotting in bugzilla, if it works would it be fine to remove it in natty?16:11
didrocksjcastro: around?16:15
jcastroon a call, but keep typing. :)16:15
didrocksjcastro: can you register "glew" as a launchpad project?16:15
jcastroyep16:15
didrocksexcellent :)16:15
jcastrobelonging to ... ?16:15
didrocksjcastro: it's an outside launchpad project, I just want to link a bug/patch16:16
didrocksexternal*16:16
jcastrook I just need the license16:17
didrocksoh, one sec16:17
didrocksThe original version of GLEW contained files under 4 licenses:16:17
didrocksBSD, GPLv2+, SGI Free Software License B, GLX Public License16:17
cyphermoxlamalex, it's updated, and still at lp:~mathieu-tl/unity/multimonitor/ (it deleted and recreated it)16:18
jcastrohttps://launchpad.net/glew/16:19
jcastrodone16:19
didrocksjcastro: awesome, thanks!16:21
lamalexMacSlow, updated the review for behavior16:36
MacSlowlamalex, pushed fixes regarding the initially stated the issues16:37
apware "long delays before indicators appear after login" a known issue ?16:39
MacSlowlamalex, see my reply16:39
MacSlowlamalex, only the key-nav of the quicklist will come in another branch... I just want to make sure this launcher-key-nav lands first16:40
lamalexMacSlow, well im not talking about navigating the quicklists16:43
lamalexwhen you right arrow to a ql, then hit down, you start back at the top of the launcher16:43
lamalexthat seems like a bug you'd hit ql nav or not16:43
MacSlowlamalex, oh... that should not happen... keyboard-focus should be dropped from the launcher *sigh*16:45
MacSlowlamalex, looking into this now16:45
\shjcastro: someone said, unity should run now under VirtualBox 4... hmm...trying to install the guest additions gives me: unsupported pre-release of Xorg server"...16:49
jcastroyou just ran into the Xorg transition16:49
\shjcastro: for sure :) well, I ran also into a non working laptop natty install ;)16:51
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\shbut that has nothing to do with X or eventually it has to do with X it just stands at checking battery state ;)16:51
jcastroyeah, yesterday wasn't a good day16:51
jcastroI suspect it'll all be fine after today/tomorrow16:52
jcastrowell, other than the virtualbox thing, that's probably up to them to support X 1.1016:52
\shWTH...fatal error: linux/autoconf.h: no such file...16:53
\shjcastro: but it is right, when you can't get a second instance of an app running under unity? I tested yesterday unity-2d and I'm not able to start two instances of gnome-terminal16:55
\shs/when/that/16:55
jcastroI am stuck in the same boat16:56
jcastroI am just making new tabs in terminals16:56
\shjcastro: agreed, a nice workaround...but the behaviour is a bit strange16:57
jcastroyou're supposed to be able to right click and create new terminal like in unity 3d16:57
jcastroit's just a bug16:57
and471ronoc, hey, did you manage to take a look at the vala issue?17:00
ronocand471, no sorry I didn't , where is the code again ?17:00
and471umm..17:01
and471lp:~and471/+junk/symphony17:01
and471ronoc, ^17:01
ronocand471, looking now17:02
and471thanks17:02
ronocand471, compilation error -> src/backend/dbus.vala:88.73-88.73: error: syntax error, expected `;'17:05
and471garr sorry, let me fix that17:06
and471ronoc, do a bzr pull17:10
and471ronoc, sorry about that17:10
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ronocand471, no worries, so I can't compile because I'm not natty and the dependencies have shifted17:16
ronocbut17:16
ronocand471, i think you should place the libindicate in a separate class ,17:18
ronocnot quite sure why you are claiming ownership twice of the name17:19
ronocbut all of your answers are in the source for the xnoise plugins17:19
ronocfor maverick17:19
ronochttp://code.google.com/p/xnoise/downloads/detail?name=xnoise-plugins-core-0.1.13.tar.bz217:19
ronocand471, ^17:19
and471ronoc, sorry, my problem was that it wouldn't compile17:19
ronocoh17:19
and471hehe17:20
ronocand471, what was the problem again17:20
and471/home/andrew/Software/Projects/symphony/src/backend/dbus.c:16: fatal error: libindicate/indicator-messages.h17:20
and471No such file or directory17:20
ronocright so the vapi needed to be hacked17:20
ronocfor libindicate17:20
and471yeah but then it still didn't work17:20
and471even with the inludedir stuff17:20
and471*includedir17:21
ronocbut the other errors were because you had more modifications to do no ?17:21
and471nope17:21
and471it just wouldn't compile17:21
and471and we got stuck yesterday17:21
ronocwhat was the last error ?17:21
and471/home/andrew/Software/Projects/symphony/src/backend/dbus.c:16: fatal error: libindicate/indicator-messages.h: No such file or directory17:21
and471compilation terminated.17:21
ronocbut I though you got around this problem by fixing the path in the vapi ?17:22
ronoc*t17:22
and471nope17:22
and471ronoc, sorry I don't mean to be rude but I have to leave soon, so maybe I should take this up with the vala guys at a later date?17:22
ronocand471, yeah or developer for natty ?17:22
and471ronoc, you probably have better things to do :)17:22
ronocits going be out very soon17:23
ronocjust a few things alright ...17:23
and471ronoc, thanks anyway :)17:23
ronocand471, no probs let me know how you get on. You should talk with the xnoise guys, they have a vala plugin for maverick which works fine17:24
and471ok17:24
om26erunity used to work with libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental before the X update in natty. should the issue be reported for the xorg or maybe something need to be done in unity? bug 71058817:40
ubot5Launchpad bug 710588 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz assert failure: compiz: nv50_pc_emit.c:863: emit_flop: Assertion `STYPE(i, 0) == 0x09' failed." [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71058817:40
lamalexjaytaoko, How do you cancel a nux timer? Can I just delete it?17:54
lamalexjaytaoko, nevermind, i found RemoveTimerHandler17:59
m_conleychrisccoulson: ping17:59
chrisccoulsonhi m_conley, how are you?17:59
m_conleychrisccoulson: hey, things are good!  I've kinda got a mystery on my hands here, and wondered if I could get some input18:00
nmarquesdidrocks, ping18:00
m_conleychrisccoulson: first off - have you tried compiling/running globalmenu-extension with the xulrunner b10 dev libraries?18:00
didrocksnmarques: hey18:00
m_conleychrisccoulson: and if so, have you noticed it segfaulting on startup (even without Lightning installed)?18:01
nmarquesdidrocks, I've done as you said and cloned the profile from Natty18:01
chrisccoulsonm_conley, yeah, i'm running that atm (but only in firefox)18:01
didrocksnmarques: excellent18:01
m_conleychrisccoulson: ah, haven't tried it in FF.  Does it work for you in TB?18:01
nmarquesdidrocks, unity doesn't launch (no segfaults), but I only get the wallpaper and pointer, nevertheless this is on ATI hardware with FireGL (11.1) and that might be problem based on some bug reports18:01
chrisccoulsonm_conley, ah. you really need to run the extension with the same gecko version as it was built with18:02
didrocksnmarques: FireGL is the proprietary driver isn't it?18:02
chrisccoulsoni'm guessing what has happened is that one of the interfaces changed slightly between B10 and your tbird version18:02
nmarquesdidrocks, yeap18:02
m_conleychrisccoulson: hm - i think my TB is also on b10...18:02
didrocksnmarques: yeah, there are bugs report about that, doesn't work with unity18:02
chrisccoulsonm_conley, is it a nightly, or a milestone release?18:03
nmarquesdidrocks, I'll try later on with Radeon DRM driver18:03
m_conleychrisccoulson: yeah, i'm on a nightly18:03
m_conleychrisccoulson: which version are you working with?18:03
nmarquesdidrocks, I'm just installing the whole debugging stack to run unity_support_test on gdb and make sure everything is ok :)18:04
chrisccoulsonm_conley, i would try compiling it against the exact thunderbird version that you're running. some of the functions it uses are inlined from headers, and if those change slightly, you get weird crashes18:04
nmarquesdidrocks, but at least I do have a progress ;)18:04
m_conleychrisccoulson: alright cool, thanks.  :)18:04
didrocksnmarques: yeah, all is related to the ATI driver…18:04
chrisccoulsonthat might not fix it, but that's probably the first thing i would try18:05
nmarquesdidrocks, one question... does Unity3 rellies on clutk ? I don't have clutk installed18:05
didrocksnmarques: no, it doesn't18:05
nmarquesdidrocks, thanks, I'm going to debug through unity_support_test and check a couple of things in nux once I have the stuff required installed and will give a go with radeonDRM and later on with Intel chipset after I install Factory there :)18:07
nmarquesdidrocks, once more, thanks for you help18:07
didrocksnmarques: you're really welcome  :)18:07
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devkorcvinceHello can I post a REQUEST: unity to support tiling for developers... like awesome wm tiling19:34
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multiplatinumcan I speak to the dev of appmenu?21:49
kklimondait's a bit late, he may already be asleep.21:51
multiplatinumanyone else responsible for it?21:53
kklimondayou may have more luck with asking your questions on the ayatana-dev ML, most devs work in the european TZ, so it's already pretty late for them.21:54
multiplatinumit's 11pm ><21:58
multiplatinumand 10pm for the UK21:58
multiplatinumbut yeah, thx21:58
multiplatinumayatana-dev is empty...21:59
kklimondaI was talking of the mailing list22:06
kklimondaabout even22:06
multiplatinumoh22:21
multiplatinumyo mpt22:21
multiplatinumdo you the appmenu?22:21
multiplatinumdo you use the appmenu?22:22
chrisccoulsonm_conley, did you have any luck building the extension against your version of tbird?22:36
m_conleychrisccoulson: hey - i'm running my Natty VM on a pretty weak machine this weak, plus I'm doing a debug build22:37
m_conleyso it's taking forever. :)22:37
chrisccoulsonheh, that's ok :)22:37
m_conley(i'm recompiling TB)22:37
chrisccoulsoni need to really get our comm-central daily builds going22:38
chrisccoulsoni keep saying i'm going to do it and then something else comes up ;)22:38
m_conleysounds familiar.  :D22:38
m_conleychrisccoulson: hey, wouldn't ya know it - just finished the compile.  Gonna see if it segfaults now...*fingers crossed*...22:39
chrisccoulsonyeah, fingers crossed :)22:39
chrisccoulsoni just had a crash in firefox actually, but i wasn't in gdb to get a trace :(22:39
m_conleychrisccoulson: I've been a webby guy most of my working life - all this segfault business...memory management.  And *compiling*.  Cripes.  :p22:39
chrisccoulsonheh, i'm used to it now ;)22:40
m_conleychrisccoulson: did the crash reporter send the data?22:40
chrisccoulsonthe crash reporter popped up, but the problem is that the symbols from the extension aren't on the server22:40
chrisccoulsonso, it's not much use ;)22:40
m_conleychrisccoulson: I've got a lot to learn about all of this.  Hope it's cool if I keep pinging you periodically.22:40
chrisccoulsonsure, no problem22:41
m_conleychrisccoulson: bam - segfault22:41
m_conleychrisccoulson: :/22:41
chrisccoulsonah22:41
chrisccoulsondid you manage to get a backtrace?22:41
m_conleyyeah, I think I know where things are going wrong - I just don't understand *why*.22:41
m_conleygive me a sec, i'll sum up my observations here...22:41
chrisccoulsonoh, i just reproduced the firefox crash in gdb :)22:44
m_conleychrisccoulson: It seems to be freaking out in the uGlobalMenuDocListener22:44
m_conleychrisccoulson: during its Init22:45
m_conleychrisccoulson: I was tooling around with this yesterday in gdb (I'm pretty new to gdb too)22:45
m_conleychrisccoulson: and there's a point where mDocument is assigned rootNode->GetOwnerDoc()22:45
m_conleychrisccoulson: the value assigned to mDocument gets filled with out-of-bounds pointers, so I figure that's where the problem starts there22:46
m_conleychrisccoulson: but, when I, in gdb, manually call rootNode->GetOwnerDoc(), I get a nicely formed nsXULDocument returned, with no out of bounds addresses inside.22:47
m_conleychrisccoulson: so, I'm wondering if maybe we've hit an inconsistency or problem in the XULRunner libraries22:47
chrisccoulsonhmmm, interesting22:47
m_conleychrisccoulson: I understand that nsXULDocument is an nsDocument - it's a subclass of some sort22:47
m_conleychrisccoulson: but the guts get all messed up when assigning it to mDocument.  :/22:48
m_conleyq22:48
chrisccoulsonyeah, that's strange. it's just returning a raw pointer too :/22:48
m_conleyare you seeing something similar?22:49
chrisccoulsoni need to try it in a build of comm-central really22:50
chrisccoulsoni'm still running tbird 3.1 here ;)22:50
m_conleyah22:50
m_conleyl22:52
* m_conley keeps choosing the wrong window to type in. *sigh*22:52
chrisccoulsonheh22:54
chrisccoulsonoh, the firefox crash is an easy fix :)22:54
chrisccoulsonuGlobalMenuIconLoader outlives the menu item22:55
m_conleychrisccoulson: i suppose that'd do it, yes.  :)22:55
chrisccoulsonthe extension you're running definately built with the thunderbird headers didn't it?22:56
chrisccoulsonthe only reason i ask is that GetOwnerDoc is an inline22:56
chrisccoulsonit's just a bit strange that calling it manually in GDB seems to give the expected result :/22:57
m_conleychrisccoulson:  I believe it did.  If it didn't, how would I check?22:57
chrisccoulsoni'm not sure :/22:57
chrisccoulsonactually, it might be possible to figure that out from autoconf.mk22:57
m_conleychrisccoulson: perhaps I have duplicate headers stashed around.  I imagine that sort of thing happens.22:57
chrisccoulsonac_configure_args in config/autoconf.mk tells you the build options22:58
chrisccoulson--with-libxul-sdk is the interesting one22:58
m_conleyxulrunner-devel-2.0b1022:59
m_conleythat's the same one that I'm using for TB, I'm pretty sure.22:59
chrisccoulsonare you building tbird on xulrunner?23:00
chrisccoulsonthe default will be with it's own copy23:00
m_conleyer, no, I suppose not23:00
m_conleyhm23:00
chrisccoulsonthat might cause something like that23:00
m_conleyi guess I assumed they'd be magically sync'd.  :)23:00
m_conleychecking...23:00
chrisccoulsonheh23:00
chrisccoulsonthey're out of sync, which is why we can't share the same xulrunner copy between firefox and tbird ;)23:00
chrisccoulsonthe releases are generally tagged at slightly different points in time23:01
chrisccoulsoni wonder if i get the same crash as you if i run it in our latest ffox nightly. that will be the same gecko version as your tbird build23:01
m_conleyok, hold up - how can I determine which version TB got built with?23:01
chrisccoulsonare you building from hg?23:02
m_conleyyes.23:02
chrisccoulsondid you just grab the latest? if so, it will probably now be 2.0b12pre23:02
chrisccoulsonmozilla-central was tagged for b11 earlier today23:03
m_conleyI see, ok, checking...23:03
chrisccoulsonit would be around 2 weeks newer than the xulrunner version you're building against23:03
m_conleyDo you recommend I try to get the latest xulrunner libraries to build with?23:04
chrisccoulsonyou could try that. but, if you've just built tbird, you should have a working SDK in mozilla/dist/sdk23:04
chrisccoulsonyou could try passing that path to --with-libxul-sdk23:05
OmegaI'm experience a pretty bad bug.23:05
OmegaI'm in a tty right now23:05
m_conleychrisccoulson: cool, that sounds like a good idea.  thanks.  :)23:05
chrisccoulsonyou're welcome :)23:05
chrisccoulsoni'm just grabbing our latest ffox nightly. i'll try running the b10 build of the extension in there23:05
chrisccoulsonthis is why i need to get comm-central nightlies working :)23:05
m_conleycool23:06
OmegaI closed my laptop lid, when I got back, my session was resumed, but I saw that I couldn't click or do anything.23:06
OmegaBut, I had a terminal window open, and it was tranparant23:06
Omegabehind it I could still see (and type into) gdm23:06
chrisccoulsonOmega, this channel isn't really for support23:07
chrisccoulsonwhich ubuntu version are you using?23:07
OmegaI'm not asking for support.23:07
OmegaI'm on natty alpha 1.23:07
OmegaReporting a bug.23:07
chrisccoulsonwell, this isn't really the place to report a bug either ;)23:08
chrisccoulsonyou need launchpad for that23:08
OmegaMaybe devs want me to do something while it's still in the state of problem.23:08
OmegaI know this.23:08
chrisccoulsonright, but a lot of people have already finished for the day already23:08
OmegaOh.23:08
chrisccoulsonwow,my connection is going really slow tonight23:11
chrisccoulsonit's probably telling me that it's the end of the day ;)23:11
m_conleychrisccoulson: probably.  :)23:12
chrisccoulsonit's getting slower and slower ;)23:12
Omegachrisccoulson: /quit23:12
chrisccoulsonmight be time to restart my router23:12
OmegaOops.23:12
Omega(That wasn't directed at you, I was going to /quit)23:12
chrisccoulsonheh ;)23:12
m_conleysounds like Omega is also telling you that it's the end of the day. :)23:13
chrisccoulsonOmega, quite a few of us are experiencing window stacking issues and dead spots on the screen with unity atm. perhaps your issue is related?23:14
chrisccoulsonin any case, it's known to be quite broken currently ;)23:14
Omegachrisccoulson: No, GDM was visible behind my terminal (and I just unlocked through it)23:17
RAOFSounds like yet another stacking bug.23:18
chrisccoulsonm_conley, oh, i don't get a crash when i run the b10 build in the latest ffox nightly23:18
OmegaWell, this was after hibernation.23:18
chrisccoulsoncould be just coincidence though ;)23:18
chrisccoulsonthe new homepage is sweet!23:18
m_conleyyeah, I dig it too.  :)23:19
Omegawhat's the new homepage o:23:19
m_conleyThe FF team is really burning the midnight oil on this23:19
chrisccoulsonyeah, i'm glad they stuck the restore session button on the homepage now23:19
chrisccoulsonalthough, that doesn't help us much, as we use our own homepage ;)23:20
m_conleyyou could do the same23:20
m_conleychrisccoulson: hmm...ok, so I redirected to my comm-central sdk, and things were chugging along nicely with make, but then it error'd out, complaining that it can't find nsIRedirectChannelRegistrar.h in /include....23:20
m_conleyand it's right - that file is missing.23:20
chrisccoulsonm_conley, the issue with our home page is that it's all online, so it's not possible to have a button to restore the session23:20
chrisccoulsoni think that's only available in chrome code23:21
m_conleychrisccoulson: well, you could bundle it as part of the Ubuntu mod pack23:21
chrisccoulsonyeah, i've been thinking about that :)23:21
m_conleyhm, yep, ok - so nsIRedirectChannelRegistrar.h is in my old xulrunner-dev include folder23:21
m_conleybut not in the new sdk in comm-central23:22
m_conleymaybe deprecated?23:22
chrisccoulsoninteresting. what does "find . -name nsIRedirectChannelRegistrar.*" show in the build tree?23:22
m_conleyby build tree, do you mean the gloablmenu-extension folder I have?23:23
m_conleyer, "globalmenu-extension"23:23
m_conleyor do you mean comm-central?23:23
chrisccoulsonin comm-central23:24
chrisccoulsoni don't think i'm pulling in that header23:24
m_conleysearching... ok, it found a .idl for it...23:24
Omegam_conley: Could you point me to the ppa with the builds you guys are talking about?23:24
m_conleyand that's it.23:24
chrisccoulsonm_conley, oh, that might be a bug :/23:24
m_conleywho's bug?23:25
chrisccoulsonyours ;)23:25
chrisccoulsoni'll take a quick look here actually23:25
m_conleyalright, cool - i'll start making noise on bugzilla23:25
m_conleyOmega: builds of what?23:25
m_conleyOmega: I'm using the nightly of Thunderbird, and the globalmenu-extension from Launchpad23:26
m_conleyOmega: and Monday's daily of Ubuntu.23:26
chrisccoulsonm_conley, oh, did you build tbird with --enable-ipc?23:26
m_conleyno, I don't believe so23:27
m_conleychecking...23:27
m_conleyno, i didn't.23:27
chrisccoulsoni'm not sure what the defaults for that are with comm-central23:27
m_conleywhat does that flag do?23:28
m_conleyit enables ipc, but what is ipc?23:28
m_conleyah, found it - reading...23:28
chrisccoulsonIPC is to allow things to run out-of-process. does your tbird build have a separate libxul.so?23:28
chrisccoulsonor is it just a big thunderbird-bin?23:28
chrisccoulsonIPC only gets enabled for builds that create a libxul.so23:29
chrisccoulson(i think)23:29
chrisccoulsonyou can probably look in mozilla/dist/bin for that23:29
m_conleychrisccoulson: it's symlinked to the libxul in ../../toolkit/library23:30
m_conleyso perhaps I pointed to the wrong sdk23:30
chrisccoulsonah, that's ok then. i wonder if comm-central still defaults to no IPC then?23:30
chrisccoulsonwhat does MOZ_IPC say in config/autoconf.mk?23:30
m_conleyHm - blank, so I'll assume false.23:33
chrisccoulsonoh, i know :)23:33
m_conleylets hear it23:33
chrisccoulsonso, nsNetUtil.h #includes nsIRedirectChannelRegistrar if MOZ_IPC=123:33
chrisccoulsonand nsIRedirectChannelRegistrar.h only exists if MOZ_IPC=1 too23:34
m_conleyso, it sounds like I need to set MOZ_IPC to 1.  But why didn't I have to do that before?23:34
chrisccoulsonhowever, when you include nsNetUtil.h, it's getting MOZ_IPC from config/autoconf.mk in globalmenu-extension23:34
chrisccoulsonyou need to pass --disable-ipc when building the extension23:35
chrisccoulsonthat should make it work23:35
m_conleyok, testing...23:35
chrisccoulsonfingers crossed :)23:35
m_conleyhrm, new problem - lots of undefined references to "PR_smprintf" and "PR_smprintf_free"23:38
m_conleyalong with "PR_IntervalNow" and "PR_sscanf"23:38
chrisccoulsonhmmm :/23:38
m_conleynot sure what to make of that.23:39
m_conleyhm - I should also mention that those warnings being thrown from xpcom/glue/nsThreadUtils.cpp23:41
chrisccoulsonah, do you have a nspr folder in mozilla/dist/include ?23:41
m_conleyI have an nspr.h23:41
m_conleybut no folder.23:42
chrisccoulsonwhat is NSPR_CFLAGS pointing to in config/autoconf.mk?23:42
m_conley....--disable-nspr ?23:42
m_conleylet me take a peek, hang on...23:42
m_conley /mozilla/dist/inclued/nspr23:43
m_conleywhich we've just determined doesn't exist.23:43
m_conley"include"23:43
chrisccoulsonah, that would be why :)23:44
chrisccoulsonhmmm, i'm not too sure how that happened though ;)23:44
m_conleywell, i'm not too sure *what* happened, so I guess we're even.  :D23:44
chrisccoulsonheh :)23:44
chrisccoulsonso, that is the default value for NSPR_CFLAGS, which you get if you don't build with --without-system-nspr23:45
chrisccoulsonbut i'm not sure why the headers don't get copied :/23:45
chrisccoulsonkklimonda, bug 712186 = quality bug reporting ;)23:46
ubot5Launchpad bug 712186 in transmission (Ubuntu) "i can' t download in the transmission" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71218623:46
chrisccoulsonthat sounds like some of the bugs i get!23:47
chrisccoulsonlike, "i got an error" ;)23:47
kklimondachrisccoulson: yeah, it's great23:47
kklimondawhat's the sysrq command to call oom killer?23:49
kklimondaI can barely switch between windows right now :/23:49
m_conleychrisccoulson: oh, I'm blind - yes, there is an nspr folder in mozilla/dist/include/nspr23:51
m_conleychrisccoulson: (globalmenu-extension is working very nicely for me in FF4.0b10, btw)23:53

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