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| rsalveti | GrueMaster: were you able to test our 38 kernel with your beagle xm B rev? | 01:29 |
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| GrueMaster | yes | 01:42 |
| GrueMaster | I had to install it from the beagle first. | 01:42 |
| GrueMaster | rsalveti: Latest X segfaults on armel. Looking into it. | 02:16 |
| rsalveti | hm | 02:17 |
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| lag | ogra: Dude! | 12:02 |
| ogra | lag, yo ! | 12:10 |
| lag | ogra: There you are | 12:10 |
| lag | ogra: How do you build kernels for the images? | 12:10 |
| ogra | whats up ? | 12:10 |
| ogra | you mean rolling uimage out of vmlinuz ? | 12:11 |
| lag | No, where is it built? | 12:12 |
| lag | On LP? | 12:12 |
| ogra | on the cdimage server | 12:12 |
| ogra | using the debian-cd scripts | 12:12 |
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| lag | Okay, let me re-phase the question | 12:12 |
| lag | I have created a PPA | 12:12 |
| lag | Is there any point in putting a kernel image in it? | 12:13 |
| lag | And u-boot image? | 12:13 |
| lag | Or it is only used for userspace packages? | 12:13 |
| ogra | i think there are possibilities to b uild from PPAs but i have never used them | 12:13 |
| ogra | and i dont know if that would work for kernels at all or just userspace | 12:13 |
| lag | 'cos your PPA is just userspace stuff isn't it? | 12:14 |
| ogra | i know there is code in livecd-rootfs (the script that rolls the rootfses) to use PPAs | 12:14 |
| ogra | but i dont know if debian-cd could use that | 12:14 |
| lag | Okay | 12:14 |
| lag | Thanks for your help | 12:14 |
| ogra | ask cjwatson about that | 12:14 |
| ogra | our images all have kernels in the archive usually | 12:15 |
| ogra | if its urgent for you i'd write a script that just grabs the image and replaces the kernel | 12:15 |
| ogra | on chinstrap or people.canonical.com | 12:15 |
| lag | Great, cheers | 12:25 |
| Homefix1 | Using karmic build on my "HTC Evo" I am trying to get my login name's desktop to be loaded instead of roots's desktop. I have export USER=dad and HOME=/home/dad in my chroot script what am i missing (the reason all of roots folders are rdonly and when i install Darwin Streaming Server I get all these "socket errors" and permission errors. I have tried as root and as user dad to install, in | 15:16 |
| Homefix1 | different folders root and dad doesnt make a diff. any help would be appreciated | 15:16 |
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| ogra | ok, panda image looks good, installs and runs | 16:29 |
| ogra | GrueMaster, could you start with XM so we have the set complete ? | 16:31 |
| * ogra only has one microSD left and i dont want to overwrite that | 16:32 | |
| GrueMaster | Already on it. Doing both side by side. | 16:32 |
| ogra | ah, sweet | 16:32 |
| rsalveti | GrueMaster: so the dvi output seems to be working for you with rev B | 16:33 |
| GrueMaster | Yes, with the latest kernel. | 16:34 |
| rsalveti | I could only test with my rev A | 16:34 |
| rsalveti | good | 16:34 |
| rsalveti | cool, so we have a working alpha 2 for both machines | 16:34 |
| GrueMaster | Which means images prior to today will fail on A3. | 16:34 |
| rsalveti | that's fine | 16:34 |
| GrueMaster | XM A3 that is. | 16:34 |
| GrueMaster | Yea, I'm not too concerned either. | 16:35 |
| GrueMaster | Anyone know anything about the server images in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily ? I pulled them for later examination and curiosity. | 16:36 |
| GrueMaster | Not part of the release though. | 16:36 |
| ogra | no idea | 16:40 |
| ogra | i didnt build them | 16:40 |
| ogra | and they wont work anyway | 16:40 |
| GrueMaster | yea, I figured as much. | 16:41 |
| ogra | ask persia, he has the list of flavours and who is responsible iirc | 16:41 |
| sveinse | I get a handful of "note: the mangling of ‘va_list’ has changed in GCC 4.4" when cross compiling qt apps using the arm-linux-gnueabi-g++ compiler. And someone at #qt claims this to be a compiler bug. Anyone familiar with this? | 17:17 |
| ogra | thats simply a note about code that hasnt been ported to new compiler behavior | 17:21 |
| ogra | shouldnt cause any issue, its just to notify the devs to make the change at some point as i understand it | 17:22 |
| sveinse | Well, our developers get like 500 of those when compiling the apps and cant find the real warnings within it | 17:22 |
| ogra | grep va_list <path to code> | 17:23 |
| ogra | ? | 17:23 |
| sveinse | It's in Qt headers, and Qt points to armel qt bug.... | 17:24 |
| sveinse | i ment armel gcc bug | 17:24 |
| ogra | well, talk to #linaro, they maintain the toolchain | 17:24 |
| sveinse | thanks | 17:24 |
| ogra | but since thats done mostly by codesourcery guys i cant really imagine its the compiler side being at fault here | 17:25 |
| ogra | especially regarding the text of the message | 17:25 |
| sveinse | I agree. In essence I'm looking for a way to supress the message. But that's OT here, so thanks anyways | 17:26 |
| lool | ogra: https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/jasper-initramfs/mkimage-move is still marked as pending review, is this obsolete? | 17:44 |
| lool | It would need to be updated ot use u-boot-tools nowadays | 17:44 |
| lool | actually rejecting my own mp | 17:45 |
| ogra | lool, yeah, its obsolete | 17:45 |
| ogra | all mkimage stuff will move to flash-kernel-installer right after A2 and jasper will use that | 17:45 |
| ogra | i just didnt get to it before A2 because of unity-2d | 17:46 |
| lool | Hmm flash-kernel wasn't merged from Debian was it? | 17:46 |
| ogra | lool, no, and i wont merge it i think, there is nothing in it apart from additional arches we dont care about | 17:48 |
| ogra | lool, unless linaro has a strong interest in supporting kirkwood | 17:49 |
| ogra | i have a bunch of pending patches on LP to merge, thats more intresting than the debian merge actually | 17:49 |
| ogra | lool, and it looks like we need to rework the flash-kernel handling of initramfs-tools completely, upstream demands that the triggers are shipped by the linux packages | 17:51 |
| ogra | i.e. we are not allowed to call flash-kernel in update-initramfs anymore | 17:52 |
| lool | Will you work on that? | 17:53 |
| ogra | for the ubuntu kernels, yes, linaro will have to adapt that | 17:53 |
| ogra | in essence it should be similar to how grub is handled | 17:53 |
| ogra | lool, do you have any strong interest in a debian merge of flash-kernel ? | 17:54 |
| ogra | (if there is any demand i'm fine to do it ... but i wont do it just for doing it ;) ) | 17:54 |
| lool | ogra: I'm reviewing my lp inbox, and found https://code.launchpad.net/~sveinse/project-rootstock/apt-source-fix/+merge/47387 seems to be waiting for review | 18:07 |
| lool | ogra: flash-kernel > I think we have accumulated a large delta in Ubuntu and we should try to merge support for these platforms in Debian; I personally suspect flash-kernel needs rearchitecturing to be a bit more versatile, and it would be best if Debian and Ubuntu were close to each other before that happens | 18:08 |
| ogra | lool, yep, i think rsalveti has it on his radar | 18:08 |
| ogra | (the rootstock fix) | 18:08 |
| lool | I'm not so much interested in getting the latest Debian changes into Ubuntu as in shrinking the delta | 18:08 |
| ogra | and sveinse talked to us here | 18:08 |
| rsalveti | ogra: yup | 18:09 |
| ogra | lool, i would prefer to shrink the delta by supplying our changes to debian first | 18:09 |
| ogra | the upstream delta to what we have in ubuntu atm isnt big | 18:10 |
| ogra | only our additions are | 18:10 |
| ogra | i agree that flas-kernel needs redesign | 18:10 |
| ogra | bug 702898 | 18:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 702898 in ubiquity "ubiquity crashed with TypeError in changed(): value is of wrong type for this column" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702898 | 18:10 |
| ogra | GrueMaster, is that the geoip bug ? | 18:11 |
| * ogra is to lazy to open it :P | 18:11 | |
| GrueMaster | Yes. My crash report has the exact same error information, so it's a match. It is also fixed. I just updated all the packages on my panda image between boots and ubiquity doesn't crash anymore. | 18:12 |
| ogra | ah, thats why i didnt get it, i did a networked install | 18:12 |
| GrueMaster | But I don't think it warrants an image respin. | 18:12 |
| ogra | and we agreed that armel doesnt need a respin for it | 18:13 |
| GrueMaster | I have a networked install as well, but through a nat firewall. | 18:13 |
| * ogra discussed it this afternoon | 18:13 | |
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| GrueMaster | Ah. Must have missed it. | 18:13 |
| ogra | in -release | 18:13 |
| persia | ogra, My list isn't complete or official currently: there's another call for product managers just post Alpha 2. | 18:13 |
| ogra | persia, well, do you have anyone for dove server images ? | 18:13 |
| ogra | i think thats rather a mistake | 18:14 |
| persia | No. Nobody I talked to said they wanted to support dove. | 18:14 |
| ogra | given that we dont support dove at all | 18:14 |
| ogra | and the omap server images have no bootloader handling | 18:14 |
| ogra | i'm all for selling janimo's headless image as server on omap rather than wasting space for non working images | 18:15 |
| persia | I agree. | 18:15 |
| persia | The only armel images I've heard about are Ubuntu Desktop/omap3 Ubuntu Netbook/omap4, Kubuntu Desktop/omap4, Kubuntu Desktop/imx51, Kubuntu Mobile/N900, Xubuntu Desktop/imx51, headless/omap3, headless/omap4 | 18:16 |
| persia | But for lots of those, there's no kernel in the archive, so it looks doubtful | 18:17 |
| ogra | Ubuntu Desktop/omap3 ??? | 18:17 |
| ogra | what for would that be ? | 18:17 |
| ogra | we ship Desktop on the image | 18:17 |
| persia | Oh, right, Ubuntu Desktop/Ubuntu Netbook merged. | 18:17 |
| ogra | not really either ;) | 18:18 |
| ogra | the image is netbook | 18:18 |
| ogra | but thanks to gdm requirements it ships gnome desktop | 18:18 |
| persia | Oh, then maybe I'm confused. | 18:19 |
| persia | I think Ubuntu Desktop/omap3 was as proof-of-concept for the better-subarch-detect spec. | 18:19 |
| persia | I suppose that could be done with Ubuntu Server/omap3 | 18:20 |
| GrueMaster | Other than the normal netbook and now server images, I am not seeing anything for armel in weeks. | 18:24 |
| ogra | persia, if you find a product manager for it | 18:26 |
| persia | ogra, Indeed. The purge didn't happen for Alpha 2, and when I started asking questions, I was told it couldn't happen until Alpha 3. | 18:29 |
| persia | But I suspect the product manager for the PoC for better-subarch-detect will end up being the better-subarch-detect folk. | 18:29 |
| ogra | well, its trivial for NCommander or me to stop them building | 18:29 |
| ogra | though indeed i dont hack around on antimony during a milestone release ;) | 18:30 |
| ogra | but i'll disable the server builds on friday, if someone needs it back he can ask for it | 18:30 |
| persia | Go ahead, if there's resource issues. I believe skaet will be sending out something Monday or Tuesday, and we'll end up trimming with the results of that later. | 18:31 |
| ogra | there is always space issues | 18:32 |
| ogra | i.e. for todays milestone images jaunty had to be removed | 18:32 |
| persia | jaunty belongs on old-images anyway. | 18:32 |
| ogra | indeed | 18:32 |
| ogra | that was just to point out how short on space we are | 18:33 |
| ogra | it wasnt removed because it belongs somewhere else but because the space was needed | 18:33 |
| ogra | that it belonds to old-releases was just a sideefect | 18:33 |
| GrueMaster | ogra: The ti-omap-extras is missing. Is that known? | 18:45 |
| ogra | GrueMaster, i havent seeded it yet | 18:45 |
| GrueMaster | Ah, ok. | 18:45 |
| ogra | since it went out of jasper | 18:45 |
| GrueMaster | Thought I'd point it out. | 18:45 |
| ogra | yep, thanks | 18:46 |
| ogra | i'll care for that after alpha | 18:46 |
| GrueMaster | Better to ask before filing a bug. I'll add it to the comments. | 18:46 |
| ogra | feel free to file a bug and assign it to me if you feel like | 18:46 |
| GrueMaster | Looks like univers/multiverse are still not being added to sources.list. | 18:48 |
| persia | That might have been a victim of the jasper re-write, sadly. The code to do it is still in the original bug. | 18:49 |
| ogra | well, i'll add it to jasper if needed | 18:49 |
| GrueMaster | do you have the bug # | 18:49 |
| * persia digs it up | 18:49 | |
| GrueMaster | (saves me having to search). | 18:50 |
| ogra | i still need to generate .symbols files for all the unity-2d libs and then should be done with that | 18:50 |
| ogra | so i can concentrate on jasper again after A2 | 18:50 |
| persia | bug #659754 | 18:50 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 659754 in ubuntu-netbook-efl-default-settings "Universe & multiverse are not enabled on OMAP4 preinstalled image" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/659754 | 18:50 |
| Homefix1 | Using karmic build on my "HTC Evo" I am trying to get my login name's desktop to be loaded instead of roots's desktop. I have export USER=dad and HOME=/home/dad in my chroot script what am i missing (the reason all of roots folders are rdonly and when i install Darwin Streaming Server I get all these "socket errors" and permission errors. I have tried as root and as user dad to install, in | 19:23 |
| Homefix1 | different folders root and dad doesnt make a diff. any help would be appreciated | 19:23 |
| Homefix1 | In qemu i log in as user but in Evo it logs in as root | 19:28 |
| Homefix1 | is it because the chroot is in root, is there a remidy? | 19:29 |
| GrueMaster | Homefix1: I'm a little confused. Does the Evo support armv7? | 19:39 |
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| Homefix1 | im sorry it does | 20:27 |
| Homefix1 | Grumaster: im sorry it does | 20:27 |
| Homefix1 | GrueMaster:My scripts are her in this tutorial i put together http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10584098#post10584098 | 20:29 |
| Homefix1 | scroll to mid-page bootubuntu.sh | 20:30 |
| GrueMaster | Homefix1: My main question is why you would be using karmic as opposed to Lucid (LTS), Maverick (latest stable) or Natty (bleading edge). | 20:47 |
| GrueMaster | Karmic is due to be EOL once Natty releases. | 20:49 |
| GrueMaster | And it is only Armv6+vfp optimized. Not armv7. | 20:49 |
| Homefix1 | Gru: everything is fine i just need a litttle assist. getting it to boot into my personal desktop rather than root. | 20:57 |
| Homefix1 | I have used lucid and mav. too | 20:57 |
| Homefix1 | I should have said lucid. | 20:58 |
| Homefix1 | I dont use Mav because i get seg fault in qemu | 20:58 |
| GrueMaster | Ah. | 20:58 |
| Homefix1 | just like if i made lucid .img on lucid build i get seg faults | 21:01 |
| GrueMaster | I won't be able to help as this is outside of my scope. I just wanted to make sure you were actually using a supported distro. Of course, most of us are currently focused on natty, so I don't know how much help you will get, but good luck. | 21:01 |
| Homefix1 | in qemu i can boot into my personal (user)desktop fine in my evo it boots into roots desktop no matter what i do | 21:01 |
| Homefix1 | and of corse it is read only | 21:01 |
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| hipaulshi | hi. does any one successfully install ubuntu server on beagleboard xm? | 23:54 |
| rcn-ee | hipaulshi, i run my beagle's as server's... apache/etc.. are you looking at speicif meta package or what? | 23:58 |
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