=== davidm_ is now known as Guest27737 [01:29] GrueMaster: were you able to test our 38 kernel with your beagle xm B rev? [01:42] yes [01:42] I had to install it from the beagle first. [02:16] rsalveti: Latest X segfaults on armel. Looking into it. [02:17] hm === davidm_ is now known as Guest90079 === ApOgEE__ is now known as ApOgEE [12:02] ogra: Dude! [12:10] lag, yo ! [12:10] ogra: There you are [12:10] ogra: How do you build kernels for the images? [12:10] whats up ? [12:11] you mean rolling uimage out of vmlinuz ? [12:12] No, where is it built? [12:12] On LP? [12:12] on the cdimage server [12:12] using the debian-cd scripts === davidm_ is now known as Guest32977 [12:12] Okay, let me re-phase the question [12:12] I have created a PPA [12:13] Is there any point in putting a kernel image in it? [12:13] And u-boot image? [12:13] Or it is only used for userspace packages? [12:13] i think there are possibilities to b uild from PPAs but i have never used them [12:13] and i dont know if that would work for kernels at all or just userspace [12:14] 'cos your PPA is just userspace stuff isn't it? [12:14] i know there is code in livecd-rootfs (the script that rolls the rootfses) to use PPAs [12:14] but i dont know if debian-cd could use that [12:14] Okay [12:14] Thanks for your help [12:14] ask cjwatson about that [12:15] our images all have kernels in the archive usually [12:15] if its urgent for you i'd write a script that just grabs the image and replaces the kernel [12:15] on chinstrap or people.canonical.com [12:25] Great, cheers [15:16] Using karmic build on my "HTC Evo" I am trying to get my login name's desktop to be loaded instead of roots's desktop. I have export USER=dad and HOME=/home/dad in my chroot script what am i missing (the reason all of roots folders are rdonly and when i install Darwin Streaming Server I get all these "socket errors" and permission errors. I have tried as root and as user dad to install, in [15:16] different folders root and dad doesnt make a diff. any help would be appreciated === zyga is now known as zyga-food === hrww is now known as hrw === zyga-food is now known as zyga [16:29] ok, panda image looks good, installs and runs [16:31] GrueMaster, could you start with XM so we have the set complete ? [16:32] * ogra only has one microSD left and i dont want to overwrite that [16:32] Already on it. Doing both side by side. [16:32] ah, sweet [16:33] GrueMaster: so the dvi output seems to be working for you with rev B [16:34] Yes, with the latest kernel. [16:34] I could only test with my rev A [16:34] good [16:34] cool, so we have a working alpha 2 for both machines [16:34] Which means images prior to today will fail on A3. [16:34] that's fine [16:34] XM A3 that is. [16:35] Yea, I'm not too concerned either. [16:36] Anyone know anything about the server images in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily ? I pulled them for later examination and curiosity. [16:36] Not part of the release though. [16:40] no idea [16:40] i didnt build them [16:40] and they wont work anyway [16:41] yea, I figured as much. [16:41] ask persia, he has the list of flavours and who is responsible iirc [17:17] I get a handful of "note: the mangling of ‘va_list’ has changed in GCC 4.4" when cross compiling qt apps using the arm-linux-gnueabi-g++ compiler. And someone at #qt claims this to be a compiler bug. Anyone familiar with this? [17:21] thats simply a note about code that hasnt been ported to new compiler behavior [17:22] shouldnt cause any issue, its just to notify the devs to make the change at some point as i understand it [17:22] Well, our developers get like 500 of those when compiling the apps and cant find the real warnings within it [17:23] grep va_list [17:23] ? [17:24] It's in Qt headers, and Qt points to armel qt bug.... [17:24] i ment armel gcc bug [17:24] well, talk to #linaro, they maintain the toolchain [17:24] thanks [17:25] but since thats done mostly by codesourcery guys i cant really imagine its the compiler side being at fault here [17:25] especially regarding the text of the message [17:26] I agree. In essence I'm looking for a way to supress the message. But that's OT here, so thanks anyways [17:44] ogra: https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/jasper-initramfs/mkimage-move is still marked as pending review, is this obsolete? [17:44] It would need to be updated ot use u-boot-tools nowadays [17:45] actually rejecting my own mp [17:45] lool, yeah, its obsolete [17:45] all mkimage stuff will move to flash-kernel-installer right after A2 and jasper will use that [17:46] i just didnt get to it before A2 because of unity-2d [17:46] Hmm flash-kernel wasn't merged from Debian was it? [17:48] lool, no, and i wont merge it i think, there is nothing in it apart from additional arches we dont care about [17:49] lool, unless linaro has a strong interest in supporting kirkwood [17:49] i have a bunch of pending patches on LP to merge, thats more intresting than the debian merge actually [17:51] lool, and it looks like we need to rework the flash-kernel handling of initramfs-tools completely, upstream demands that the triggers are shipped by the linux packages [17:52] i.e. we are not allowed to call flash-kernel in update-initramfs anymore [17:53] Will you work on that? [17:53] for the ubuntu kernels, yes, linaro will have to adapt that [17:53] in essence it should be similar to how grub is handled [17:54] lool, do you have any strong interest in a debian merge of flash-kernel ? [17:54] (if there is any demand i'm fine to do it ... but i wont do it just for doing it ;) ) [18:07] ogra: I'm reviewing my lp inbox, and found https://code.launchpad.net/~sveinse/project-rootstock/apt-source-fix/+merge/47387 seems to be waiting for review [18:08] ogra: flash-kernel > I think we have accumulated a large delta in Ubuntu and we should try to merge support for these platforms in Debian; I personally suspect flash-kernel needs rearchitecturing to be a bit more versatile, and it would be best if Debian and Ubuntu were close to each other before that happens [18:08] lool, yep, i think rsalveti has it on his radar [18:08] (the rootstock fix) [18:08] I'm not so much interested in getting the latest Debian changes into Ubuntu as in shrinking the delta [18:08] and sveinse talked to us here [18:09] ogra: yup [18:09] lool, i would prefer to shrink the delta by supplying our changes to debian first [18:10] the upstream delta to what we have in ubuntu atm isnt big [18:10] only our additions are [18:10] i agree that flas-kernel needs redesign [18:10] bug 702898 [18:10] Launchpad bug 702898 in ubiquity "ubiquity crashed with TypeError in changed(): value is of wrong type for this column" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702898 [18:11] GrueMaster, is that the geoip bug ? [18:11] * ogra is to lazy to open it :P [18:12] Yes. My crash report has the exact same error information, so it's a match. It is also fixed. I just updated all the packages on my panda image between boots and ubiquity doesn't crash anymore. [18:12] ah, thats why i didnt get it, i did a networked install [18:12] But I don't think it warrants an image respin. [18:13] and we agreed that armel doesnt need a respin for it [18:13] I have a networked install as well, but through a nat firewall. [18:13] * ogra discussed it this afternoon === davidm_ is now known as Guest46061 [18:13] Ah. Must have missed it. [18:13] in -release [18:13] ogra, My list isn't complete or official currently: there's another call for product managers just post Alpha 2. [18:13] persia, well, do you have anyone for dove server images ? [18:14] i think thats rather a mistake [18:14] No. Nobody I talked to said they wanted to support dove. [18:14] given that we dont support dove at all [18:14] and the omap server images have no bootloader handling [18:15] i'm all for selling janimo's headless image as server on omap rather than wasting space for non working images [18:15] I agree. [18:16] The only armel images I've heard about are Ubuntu Desktop/omap3 Ubuntu Netbook/omap4, Kubuntu Desktop/omap4, Kubuntu Desktop/imx51, Kubuntu Mobile/N900, Xubuntu Desktop/imx51, headless/omap3, headless/omap4 [18:17] But for lots of those, there's no kernel in the archive, so it looks doubtful [18:17] Ubuntu Desktop/omap3 ??? [18:17] what for would that be ? [18:17] we ship Desktop on the image [18:17] Oh, right, Ubuntu Desktop/Ubuntu Netbook merged. [18:18] not really either ;) [18:18] the image is netbook [18:18] but thanks to gdm requirements it ships gnome desktop [18:19] Oh, then maybe I'm confused. [18:19] I think Ubuntu Desktop/omap3 was as proof-of-concept for the better-subarch-detect spec. [18:20] I suppose that could be done with Ubuntu Server/omap3 [18:24] Other than the normal netbook and now server images, I am not seeing anything for armel in weeks. [18:26] persia, if you find a product manager for it [18:29] ogra, Indeed. The purge didn't happen for Alpha 2, and when I started asking questions, I was told it couldn't happen until Alpha 3. [18:29] But I suspect the product manager for the PoC for better-subarch-detect will end up being the better-subarch-detect folk. [18:29] well, its trivial for NCommander or me to stop them building [18:30] though indeed i dont hack around on antimony during a milestone release ;) [18:30] but i'll disable the server builds on friday, if someone needs it back he can ask for it [18:31] Go ahead, if there's resource issues. I believe skaet will be sending out something Monday or Tuesday, and we'll end up trimming with the results of that later. [18:32] there is always space issues [18:32] i.e. for todays milestone images jaunty had to be removed [18:32] jaunty belongs on old-images anyway. [18:32] indeed [18:33] that was just to point out how short on space we are [18:33] it wasnt removed because it belongs somewhere else but because the space was needed [18:33] that it belonds to old-releases was just a sideefect [18:45] ogra: The ti-omap-extras is missing. Is that known? [18:45] GrueMaster, i havent seeded it yet [18:45] Ah, ok. [18:45] since it went out of jasper [18:45] Thought I'd point it out. [18:46] yep, thanks [18:46] i'll care for that after alpha [18:46] Better to ask before filing a bug. I'll add it to the comments. [18:46] feel free to file a bug and assign it to me if you feel like [18:48] Looks like univers/multiverse are still not being added to sources.list. [18:49] That might have been a victim of the jasper re-write, sadly. The code to do it is still in the original bug. [18:49] well, i'll add it to jasper if needed [18:49] do you have the bug # [18:49] * persia digs it up [18:50] (saves me having to search). [18:50] i still need to generate .symbols files for all the unity-2d libs and then should be done with that [18:50] so i can concentrate on jasper again after A2 [18:50] bug #659754 [18:50] Launchpad bug 659754 in ubuntu-netbook-efl-default-settings "Universe & multiverse are not enabled on OMAP4 preinstalled image" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/659754 [19:23] Using karmic build on my "HTC Evo" I am trying to get my login name's desktop to be loaded instead of roots's desktop. I have export USER=dad and HOME=/home/dad in my chroot script what am i missing (the reason all of roots folders are rdonly and when i install Darwin Streaming Server I get all these "socket errors" and permission errors. I have tried as root and as user dad to install, in [19:23] different folders root and dad doesnt make a diff. any help would be appreciated [19:28] In qemu i log in as user but in Evo it logs in as root [19:29] is it because the chroot is in root, is there a remidy? [19:39] Homefix1: I'm a little confused. Does the Evo support armv7? === prpplague^2 is now known as prpplague [20:27] im sorry it does [20:27] Grumaster: im sorry it does [20:29] GrueMaster:My scripts are her in this tutorial i put together http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10584098#post10584098 [20:30] scroll to mid-page bootubuntu.sh [20:47] Homefix1: My main question is why you would be using karmic as opposed to Lucid (LTS), Maverick (latest stable) or Natty (bleading edge). [20:49] Karmic is due to be EOL once Natty releases. [20:49] And it is only Armv6+vfp optimized. Not armv7. [20:57] Gru: everything is fine i just need a litttle assist. getting it to boot into my personal desktop rather than root. [20:57] I have used lucid and mav. too [20:58] I should have said lucid. [20:58] I dont use Mav because i get seg fault in qemu [20:58] Ah. [21:01] just like if i made lucid .img on lucid build i get seg faults [21:01] I won't be able to help as this is outside of my scope. I just wanted to make sure you were actually using a supported distro. Of course, most of us are currently focused on natty, so I don't know how much help you will get, but good luck. [21:01] in qemu i can boot into my personal (user)desktop fine in my evo it boots into roots desktop no matter what i do [21:01] and of corse it is read only === zyga is now known as zyga-nc10 [23:54] hi. does any one successfully install ubuntu server on beagleboard xm? [23:58] hipaulshi, i run my beagle's as server's... apache/etc.. are you looking at speicif meta package or what?