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mhall119cjohnston: czajkowski: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/1/detail/03:32
mhall119geez, we finally get this out the door, and nobody's around to celebrate it with me?03:42
mhall119:(03:42
* nigelb pops champange03:43
nigelband hugs everyone03:43
pleia2mhall119: hooray!!03:43
mhall119yay! at least I can count on you nigelb 03:43
Pendulummhall119: congrats!03:43
mhall119thanks03:44
mhall119it was largely cjohnston and daker's work03:44
nigelbbut we finally got it deployed \o/03:44
mhall119I'm just happy to see it out, our first major UDS discussed feature03:44
pleia2oh, I broke it03:45
mhall119:(03:45
mhall119you could at least let it go a few minutes before ya break it03:45
pleia2sorry!03:45
pleia2I was so excited03:45
nigelbhaha03:45
pleia2yeah, clicking on "Add Team Meeting" gives me error of doom03:45
pleia2it works from my loco team page though03:46
mhall119pleia2: this is what happens when you're on more than one team :(03:46
* pleia2 doesn't let pennsylvania go03:46
nigelblog bug03:47
pleia2yeah, known or should I file?03:47
nigelbthis is fixable.  We'll stop you from doing that or we'd have to give you choices03:47
nigelb(or we'll just kick out out of -us-pa :p)03:47
pleia2lol03:47
mhall119pleia2: I'm working on a fix now03:48
nigelbmhall119: *cough*, all fix commited are now fix released right?03:48
mhall119nigelb: let me fix this bug before I worry about that03:48
nigelblol, ok03:48
nigelboh no, its 9:2003:48
nigelbshould get to work03:48
nigelbhopefully, I'll get there before 1003:48
pleia2oh time zones03:49
mhall119nigelb: good morning, btw03:51
mhall119pleia2: fix is committed,waiting on deployment03:52
pleia2\o/03:52
mhall119how's that for service ;)03:52
pleia2I see akk's time zone fix was released recently too, hurrah03:52
mhall119part of the same 0.3.0 I think03:53
mhall119I also fixed you breaking things by leaving out times03:53
pleia2mhall119: thoughts on time zones? UTC is lousy for us, if we *actually* put it in UTC time it ends up on the wrong day and everyone is confused03:53
pleia2yeah, I saw that bug progress, good times :)03:54
mhall119pleia2: can you try again how you broke it earlier?03:54
pleia2ok03:54
mhall119right now LD doesn't set a timezone on a team, mostly because lots of teams span multiple timezones03:54
pleia2fixed \o/03:54
mhall119Events were easy, because a Venue could only ever be in one03:54
pleia2yeah03:55
mhall119we're still trying to work out a good way to implement that03:55
* mhall119 owes bradm a drink03:56
pleia2oh, and if we don't put it in UTC the  pedantic among us (in a linux community? no way!) stir up a fuss03:56
mhall119yeah03:56
mhall119so, it's UTC for now until we can figure out a good solution that'll work for everybody03:56
* pleia2 nods03:57
mhall119but we're open to ideas if you've got 'em03:57
pleia2can you just put a little time zone selection button next to the Time?03:58
pleia2so, Date, Time, Time Zone03:58
mhall119maybe03:58
mhall119right now a lot of that is handled for us automagically by Django03:58
mhall119okay folks, I'm off to bed03:59
mhall119talk to you all tomorrow03:59
pleia2night mhall119, great work!03:59
dholbachgood morning08:35
HakanSdholbach: Good morning08:41
dakerthe new LD is deployed09:16
czajkowskiyay09:26
czajkowski:D09:26
daker\o/09:26
YoBoYgood morning09:33
YoBoYstupid questions : how many new strings this new version of LD introduced to translate, and how many are deprecated compared to the last version ?09:35
HakanSHow do I add a meeting to our LD page?09:36
YoBoYHakanS: log in, go to your team page and click on the menu item ;)09:38
HakanSYoBoY: Thanks.09:44
nobutoThis version contains the fix for Bug #642132?09:56
nobutoAt least lower left login name of the page shows my new ID properly. yay!09:56
ubot4Launchpad bug 642132 in django-openid-auth "openid nickname changes aren't handled (affects: 6) (dups: 3) (heat: 11)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64213209:56
czajkowskidholbach: how do I link two bugs together 10:16
dholbachczajkowski, you mean make one a duplicate of each other?10:16
czajkowskihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/711649  and https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/71175010:16
ubot4Launchpad bug 711649 in loco-directory "My Name doesn't show in Meeting Chair list (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]10:16
dholbach"mark as duplicate"?10:16
czajkowskiit's not a dupilicate as such but are similar 10:16
czajkowskiand effect one another 10:16
czajkowskigot Irish team to check it out and they have a few bugs. 10:18
czajkowskire meeting feature 10:18
czajkowskihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/71175610:18
ubot4Launchpad bug 711756 in loco-directory "when creating a meeting, you are asked for meeting minutes link (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:18
czajkowskihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/71175410:18
ubot4Launchpad bug 711754 in loco-directory "meeting start/end time uses UTC, not local time (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]10:18
cjohnstonYoBoY: no idea10:59
* cjohnston throws stuff at czajkowski... way too much work this early in the morning!11:14
cjohnstonmhall119: what was the bug you already pushed?11:15
nigelbcjohnston: the bug where someone is on 2 teams click on add meeting and ld asploes11:17
nigelbasplodes :p11:17
cjohnstonwhy you shouldn't be a member of two teams that are across the country from each other!11:17
cjohnstoni mean..11:17
cjohnstonya11:17
czajkowskicjohnston: you know you love me deep down11:17
cjohnstonuh huh11:18
cjohnstonjust for that... your gonna love your mail box!11:18
* czajkowski hugs cjohnston 11:19
nigelbcjohnston: ask lyz why she's still hoding on to -us-pa :p11:19
nigelbcjohnston: anyway, I think mike fixed it.11:20
cjohnstonunfortunatly, she isnt the only one11:20
cjohnstoni know of two11:20
nigelblol11:20
cjohnstonitd be one thing if there was a central florida team, and a florida team11:20
cjohnstonbut when you have to FLY to an event11:20
cjohnstonreally? :-P11:20
* nigelb waits for cjohnston to be smacked on the head11:21
czajkowskicjohnston: I'm a member of UK and ireland :) and oh Ma  D 11:26
czajkowski:D11:26
cjohnstonagain.. if you have to get on a plane or boat.... ......11:27
cjohnstonLooks like about 30 emails or so11:27
cjohnston;-)11:27
czajkowskicjohnston: I am not picking one team over another I'm in UK and ireland so not dropping either :) 11:30
cjohnston:-P11:30
* czajkowski frowns at cjohnston 11:47
czajkowskithere was no need for that11:47
mhall119czajkowski: re: bug 711754, some teams have multiple timezones13:06
ubot4Launchpad bug 711754 in loco-directory "meeting start/end time uses UTC, not local time (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71175413:06
mhall119oh nevermind, I see cjohnston's already commented on it13:06
mhall119anyway, as I told pleia2 last night, we're open to solutions that'll work for those teams13:07
mhall119cjohnston: dholbach: I updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoDirectory/ReleaseProcess to match what they *actually* do when deploying LD13:13
andrewmorning13:22
dholbachmhall119, aha, thanks14:01
czajkowskimhall119: talk to ebel14:23
czajkowski:)14:23
mhall119czajkowski: get him in here and I will ;)15:01
mhall119hmmm, team webchat isn't showing15:05
mhall119nigelb: can you take a look ^^15:05
mhall119oh nevermind15:06
mhall119it was evidently just slow loading15:07
nigelbmhall119: o/15:09
nigelboh, wait.  It fixed itself \o/15:09
nigelbI love the kind of bugs that fix themselves :D15:10
mhall119yeah, those are the best15:10
mhall119nigelb: but if you want to work on bug 706657, that would be great15:12
ubot4Launchpad bug 706657 in loco-directory "Add link to join meeting channel on meeting detail page (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70665715:12
* nigelb updates LD branch to work on it15:13
nigelbmhall119: wait, cjohnston claimed it :|15:14
mhall119yeah like a week ago15:15
nigelboh :p15:15
nigelbI should just submit a merge request :p15:16
nigelbmhall119: did you decide what to do for the asploding bug of last night?15:17
mhall119yeah, I fixed it15:19
nigelb\o/15:19
czajkowskimhall119: he's in #ubuntu-ie15:20
mhall119but I don't speak Irish15:20
czajkowskihe doesnt always either 15:23
mhall119lol15:24
czajkowskiebel: boo15:25
czajkowskimhall119: talk to ebel 15:25
ebelboo15:25
mhall119ack!15:25
ebeli can haz timezones!15:25
mhall119some people want more than one15:25
ebelIndeed.15:26
ebelSo is there not some way to accomodate teams with >1 timezone?15:27
ebelFalling back to UTC seems like a bad way.15:27
mhall119there may be, but what that is I don't yet know15:27
mhall119pleia2 suggested adding an additional drop-down for Timezone when setting up a meeting15:27
ebelAllow someone to enter the meeting start time using one timezone. Then look at all events for that team, see what timezones they use15:27
mhall119that's an expensive lookup15:28
ebeland on the irc meeting page show the start time in those timezones (sorta like the "7, 8 central" TV time thing)?15:29
mhall119we can let teams pick multiple timezones that apply to them, then provide a drop-down with just those15:29
mhall119hmm, that may end up displaying a lot of times15:30
mhall119especially for the French and Russian teams15:30
mhall119Canadian too15:30
mhall119has at least 4 I think15:30
ebelEr not that expensive. There are sub30,000 events. (sub 300 teams × sub 100 events per team per year × sub 10 years life expectancy)15:30
nigelbhrm, how about I select a time zone for myself.  and show me everything in that time zone?15:31
mhall119nigelb: we're working on that15:31
nigelbBut that's going to cause so many changes and dst breakage that it scares me15:31
mhall119no dst breakage, because we'd store timezone not offset15:31
nigelbah15:31
ebel*or* maintain a set of 'seen timezomes' for each team. When an event for a team is created, add that timezone to that event. then it's just a simple look up15:32
ebelDST! No! bold nigelb! There is no such thing as dst! :P15:32
mhall119ebel: I'd rather let teams pick their timezones explicitly if we're going to go that route15:32
nigelbebel: I keep telling people there is no DST.  mhall119 disagrees :p15:33
mhall119nigelb: I wish it were true, but sadly it is not15:33
ebel(I know DST or summer time or whatever is what's commonly in popular parlance)15:33
nigelbwe should just setup a site saynotodst.com15:33
mhall119+115:33
nigelband get everyone to plege support :p15:33
ebelHowever if you stop thinking of DST it becomes much easier to grok timezones when you think of them with different offsets15:33
nigelbexactly15:34
mhall119at that point we may as well all start thinking in UTC and stop thinking of 1200 as being "mid-day"15:34
ebelSwatch time!15:35
ebelaaaaaanyway. In our loco we only have one timezone.15:35
mhall119right15:36
czajkowskias does UK, Spain,France Italy, Denmark etc15:36
mhall119and if it were only your loco we'd be fine15:36
czajkowskimhall119: well to be fair the majority of locos are this way 15:36
czajkowski:)15:36
ebelczajkowski: wonder is greenland part of 'denmark' :P Might have >1 timezone...15:36
mhall119czajkowski: yes but, to be fair, the majority of our bugs come from those that aren't15:36
* mhall119 looks at YoBoY 15:37
YoBoY?15:37
nigelbheh15:37
czajkowskimhall119: right just trying to find a happy medium which doesnt frustate everyone 15:37
ebelWhy not let meeting organisers enter the time of a meeting in a timezone-ized time? Then each team needs to put in "our loco works on these timezones"15:37
ebelthat tells you (a) how to interpret the data the meeting creator enters and (b) what to show on the meeting detail page.15:38
mhall119ebel: I'm thinking that's the best route, yes15:38
ebelGiven that many many ubuntu irc meetings are in UTC, showing an irc meeting for a loco in UTC could get confusing.15:38
mhall119that doesn't make sense15:39
mhall119if many many irc meetings are already in UTC, why would having irc meetings in UTC cause more confusion?15:39
ebelIf they are not actually held in UTC.15:39
ebele.g. irish loco are held at 8pm, regardless if ireland is on GMT or IST.15:40
ebelIf the meeting page says 8pm UTC, then for half the year the meetings won't start at the advertised time.15:40
mhall119ebel: okay, I understand now15:42
YoBoYmy french point of view, when I organise an IRC meeting, I put the hour in my timezone and add an UTC hour to keep it clear for every participant who are not in the same timezone. I think we can let the chairman decide in witch timezone it's the best to communicate for the meeting, and always add the UTC in the same view for the others.15:43
ebelsome people don't grok UTC.15:44
YoBoYin th wiki.ubuntu.com the UTC times are always linked to a website to have all the hours in the world, we can use the same thing15:45
ebelSome think UTC is the same as GMT, which is obviously the same as the time in London. Ireland is the same time as london, so 2000 UTC in July is assumed to be 8pm irish time15:45
ebelYou're assuming people (a) will go to all that trouble and (b) won't get confused.15:46
YoBoYpeople are always confused when you present more than one information15:47
mhall119ebel: YoBoY: czajkowski: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/711754/comments/215:47
ubot4Launchpad bug 711754 in loco-directory "meeting start/end time uses UTC, not local time (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Wishlist,Invalid]15:47
ebelmhall119: looks good15:48
mhall119the problem with that solution is that teams with more than one timezone won't have them sorted15:48
mhall119so you may use one 90% of the time, and the other 10% of the time, but the 10% timezone may always be sorted to be on top, making it the default selection15:49
ebelSome suggestions: Don't show UTC (or make it optional), and if there is only one timezone for a team don't mention timezones at all.15:49
mhall119ebel: I think it should be mentioned if it's going to be used15:49
ebelSince in ireland we have 1 timezone. We never talk about things started at "8pm Dublin time", it's always "8pm"15:50
mhall119except czajkowski likes to think in UTC15:50
ebelSince within ireland that is completly unambiguous15:50
ebeloooooooh..... cztab facts..... like chuck norris facts.......15:51
czajkowskimhall119: I have to in this channel, but outside of here, tis just odd 15:51
mhall119ebel: suppose you're going up for re-approval, the loco-council isn't on Dublin time15:51
mhall119or you've got a guest speaking from another timezone15:51
mhall119you're going to want to show what timezone it's using somewhere15:51
YoBoYmy team need to show the UTC for the meetings, it's not just the country timezones, every french people (like in french talking) is invited in our team meetings 15:51
ebel(a) never had any guests in ~ 36 irc meetings. (b) last approval we told everyone the irish time equiv.15:52
ebel90% of our members didn't need to know the UTC of loco-council15:52
paultagebel: wait, what?15:53
paultagebel: I'm in EST. we use UTC because everyone uses UTC15:53
ebelYoBoY: s/french people/french speaker/15:53
YoBoYyes15:53
ebelanyways, optional utc showing isn't a big one.15:53
mhall119ebel: YoBoY: czajkowski: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/711754 see comment #315:53
ubot4Launchpad bug 711754 in loco-directory "meeting start/end time uses UTC, not local time (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Wishlist,Invalid]15:53
czajkowskipaultag: pipe down you 15:55
ebelmhall119: comment #3 seems to just institutionalise one timezone. Why not just see if the .count() is 1? makes it dynamic.15:55
mhall119ebel: because Florida has 2, US/Eastern covers 90% of the state, US/Central covers 10%15:55
mhall119but US/Central would be listed first when sorted alphabetically15:55
ebelah i see15:56
ebel*shrug* up to you then. you know more about multitimezoned-teams15:56
mhall119but that way you can set Dublin time as your team's default, not chose any alternates, and it'll 'just work' for you15:56
YoBoYmhall119: i like the number one15:57
mhall119we can also use the default timezone for physical team events that don't have a venue15:57
mhall119cjohnston: when you can, I'd like your thoughts on the proposed solutions in https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/71175415:59
ubot4Launchpad bug 711754 in loco-directory "meeting start/end time uses UTC, not local time (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Wishlist,Invalid]15:59
YoBoYho I don't if you want a bug for that, but I think the end date for a meeting should be remplaced by a duration16:10
YoBoY+know16:10
mhall119having end times makes calculations and queries significantly easier on us16:11
YoBoYperhaps just for the display...16:12
ebelmhall119: calculate the end date from duration when meeting is created?16:13
ebelthis is what the save() method is for :P16:13
mhall119I just don't see a significant upside to doing it that way16:13
mhall119over-writing .save() has it's own perils16:14
ebeleasier for the user to enter, ergo more people will use LD16:14
ebelI know most of our meetings take 1½ hrs16:14
YoBoY;)16:14
ebelRemove barriers to usage, less hoops to jump through etc.16:14
mhall119is it significantly harder to enter a 4-digit time than a 3-digit duration?16:15
ebel3 digits?16:15
mhall119we even give you a nice JQuery-UI time picker16:15
ebelAnd yes the LD uses some weird time picker thing16:15
mhall119ebel: 1:3016:15
mhall119I suppose you can do 1.5 hours16:16
mhall119using decimals16:16
mhall119but I still don't see it being that bad16:16
ebelTis 25% longer to type16:16
mhall119Events use end-datetime, and it doesn't seem to be preventing it's use16:16
ebel:P16:17
mhall1190.25 * practically nothing = still practically nothing16:17
nigelblol16:17
YoBoYon events it's normal to have an end date, some events have more than 1 day duration. But IRC meetings are always limited in time16:20
mhall119I understand the use-case16:22
YoBoYbut that was just an idea, not really a bug, i don't care entering an end date or not16:22
mhall119but right now difference in usability just doesn't justify the technical requirements to implement it16:22
YoBoYyes16:24
YoBoYthe "when" display on the meeting detail page only display the date once, so it's fine like that16:25
mhall119czajkowski: just read "Being a locoteam", wish we had gotten the meetings feature deployer sooner so it could have gotten a mention, but a good article16:36
czajkowskithank you16:36
mhall119hopefully being able to see past meetings + past events will help you when reviewing team activity16:37
=== JanC_ is now known as JanC
andrewmhall119: Tried logging out and back in. ( Bug #711649 )17:16
ubot4Launchpad bug 711649 in loco-directory "My Name doesn't show in Meeting Chair list (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71164917:16
mhall119andrew: thanks, still no profile though17:17
mhall119there's a daily script to update profiles, that should pull in your info17:17
andrewwhen does that run?17:18
mhall119but we need to do something to make it happen at login17:18
mhall119andrew: I don't know exactly17:18
andrewkk, well, it most likely  hasn't run in the past 13 hours17:18
andrewShouldn't it take the info when I log in? Launchpad is sharing my name and loco already17:20
andrewI'll try again in 11 hours17:20
mhall119andrew: I'm getting a sysadmin to kick it off now17:21
mhall119hopefully it'll be there in the next hour17:22
mhall119you are right, it should get profile info at login, but it currently doesn't17:22
andrewSo, we keep the bug open and change it to saying it should add info at login instead of daily?17:24
YoBoYI can't copy an event, someone can confirm ?17:24
mhall119andrew: yup, already did that17:25
mhall119YoBoY: are you getting an error?17:25
mhall119or just not getting the option?17:26
YoBoYLoCo Directory has encountered an Error!17:27
mhall119okay, I'm getting it, can you file a bug please?17:28
YoBoYyes17:28
mhall119thanks17:28
YoBoYbug 699692 << this is already reported no ?17:30
ubot4Launchpad bug 699692 in loco-directory "Copying team event fails (affects: 1) (heat: 4)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69969217:30
mhall119YoBoY: different underlying cause17:31
YoBoYok17:31
YoBoYbug 71201117:33
ubot4Launchpad bug 712011 in loco-directory "Can't copy an event (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71201117:33
mhall119thanks17:33
YoBoYyou're welcome17:34
mhall119evidently it's something that was fixed between 1.1.2 (which I use for testing) and 1.1.1 (which is used in production)17:43
nigelb1.1.1 of what?17:45
mhall119django17:47
mhall119andrew: good news, you have a profile now!17:47
nigelbmhall119: ah17:48
andrewwoo! I exist!17:48
cjohnstonczajkowski: what was there no need for?17:49
mhall119cjohnston: my guess is marking the meetings localtime bug as invalid17:50
mhall119andrew: I'm leaving your bug open so we can fix the initial cause17:51
mhall119YoBoY: can you test copying events again?18:02
YoBoYmhall119: working now18:02
mhall119awesome18:02
YoBoYthanks :)18:03
mhall119no probelm18:04
mhall119ebel: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/664/detail/18:05
ebelindeed18:06
mhall119because I look forward to your feedback on using the meeting feature18:06
mhall119especially using the agenda items18:06
ebelintegrate it with mootbot and i'm sold18:06
mhall119ebel: already talking to AlanBell about that18:07
ebelin fact some sort of irc bot interface to loco directory would be the business18:07
ebelI remember saying this to czajkowski when i first heard of LD18:07
mhall119ebel: LD already has a read-only JSON interface, so we're half way there18:07
ebelThat it would be possible to beat the existing multitude of systems18:08
ebelLots of things (e.g. wiki) are easy peasy to get started.18:08
ebeljust type in here, it's all free form, we haven't decided on what to do etc.18:08
cjohnstondo be do]18:08
ebelhowever there's a lot of repediate work18:08
ebelso the LD could beat it18:08
ebel*could* :P18:09
mhall119s/could/will/18:13
ebelYep :)18:18
YoBoYI just added 16 ubuntu events in France, next step, rule the world :D18:20
mhall119I'm pretty sure there's a ???? step in between18:20
mhall119https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoDirectory/API#Team+Meetings updated the LD API docs to include meeting and agenda services18:20
YoBoYperhap's the "make some friends to help me rule the world" first ?18:22
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mhall119Jono just announced that UDS-P will be back in Orlando!19:24
jledbetterAwesome!19:40
mhall119jledbetter: so, start planning now19:41
jledbettermhall119, Why plan? I can just crash with y'all ;)19:42
mhall119well yeah, but plan on being here19:42
pleia2oh goodie, maybe I can go this time and attach a disney+family trip19:53
mhall119+119:53
pleia2(see how disney is first there?)19:54
pleia2hehe19:54
andrewand family is in there? Is there more than you and him?19:55
mhall119it's better19:55
pleia2andrew: yeah, I have family in orlando and melbourne19:55
andrewAh19:56
andrewSo do I (well, right outside of orlando)19:56
pleia2my aunt used to live in celebration, I think she moved to orlando proper though19:57
cjohnstonDaviey: do you have time (I know you don't) to review the merge request to fix the sponsorship page for summit so that we can get that fix pushed out?20:24
Agushola!hay alguien?21:29
Agushey guys?21:30
Agusanyone?21:30
mhall119hi Agus 21:30
Agushi21:31
Aguswho are u?21:31
mhall119mhall11921:31
mhall119:)21:31
Agusa normal ubuntu user ¿21:31
Agusor a memer of the support team?21:32
Agus# member21:32
mhall119I'm an Ubuntu user21:32
mhall119but "normal" might be giving more credit than I'm due21:32
Agusok21:34
czajkowskithis is very true 21:34
AgusI came here21:35
mhall119czajkowski: hey now, be supportive21:35
mhall119Agus: welcome21:35
czajkowskiI am21:35
czajkowski:)21:35
mhall119czajkowski: i can at least act normal when I need to 21:36
mhall119that's enough isn't it?21:36
czajkowskithis is true21:36
czajkowskiI can too21:36
czajkowskiwok made me all permant today21:36
Aguscause in 15 days I will have to talk in my class about any free software,i choose ubuntu,in some way, we have to sell the porduct, so we can wear tshirts gift things give things,merchandising....21:36
mhall119czajkowski: wok made you permant?  Um..that sounds bad...I think21:36
czajkowskinoo21:37
pleia2czajkowski: congrats!21:37
czajkowskipermanent21:37
pleia2(but not unexpected, I think :))21:37
czajkowskipleia2: thank you21:37
czajkowski:D 21:37
mhall119czajkowski: like, hired on full time?21:37
czajkowskimhall119: aye 21:37
mhall119I thought you already where21:37
mhall119Agus: unfortunately 15 days isn't much time to get anything to you21:38
mhall119but Canonical does have programs for doing so21:38
Aguswhat kind of?21:38
mhall119shipit.ubuntu.com will send you free CDs21:38
mhall119if you're part of a local community (LoCo) of Ubuntu users, you may be able to get more21:38
mhall119where do you live?21:39
Agusspain21:39
Agusmadrid21:39
Agusmaybe i can have 20 days21:40
mhall119you should try getting in touch with the Spain LoCo21:40
Agusok!21:40
mhall119try the #ubuntu-es channel21:41
mhall119they might be able to get you some things faster than ordering from Canonical21:41
Agusspanish wepage so strange...21:44
cjohnstonmhall119: have the updates that have been pushed to prod been put in trunk?22:46
cjohnstonmhall119: can you give this and try and see if you have the problem (or anyone else)... i didnt get any meetings from my import-live-data22:53
cjohnstonRonnie: daker nigelb ^^22:54
dakersorry i am upgrading to maverick ツ22:55
Ronniecjohnston: meetings was not supported in import-live-data, i dont even know if the server side supports is22:56
Ronnieis = it22:56

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