/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/02/02/#ubuntu-my.txt

=== KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline
mnajemhi03:20
leoncutzhello there. perlukan bantuan plz...06:47
leoncutzi am very new here. i just install ubuntu yesterday but not its corrupted & i need to reinstall or uninstall it but don't know how06:48
leoncutzanyone there06:50
ApOgEE__salam06:53
=== ApOgEE__ is now known as ApOgEE
leoncutzanyone here pls?06:54
ApOgEEhi leoncutz 06:55
ApOgEEhow can I help you?06:55
leoncutzhi apogee06:55
ApOgEEhi leoncutz , wusup?06:55
leoncutzi am very new to ubuntu. i only install it yesterday. however the installation is corrupted. my screen keeps flickering06:56
leoncutzwhat should i do? uninstal it & reinstall it again?06:56
ApOgEEhave u tried the livecd? is it working?06:56
leoncutzbut i do not know how to either reinstall or uninstall it 06:57
ApOgEEI suggest u try using the livecd first06:57
leoncutzi dloaded it fm the net & burn it to my cd. then i successfully install ot06:57
ApOgEEif everything is OK, then u can install it06:57
leoncutzit06:57
leoncutzyes the live cd was working fine06:58
leoncutzthen i install it alongside my currnet window 7 operating system06:58
ApOgEEto reinstall, you can simply run the livecd, open gparted and delete your previous installed partition06:58
leoncutznow should i uninstall it ot reinstall it again?06:58
ApOgEEthen install it again06:59
leoncutzi am very sorry but i am VERY new to this operating system06:59
leoncutzbut how do i reinstall it on the same partition pls?06:59
ApOgEEhow the previous installation corrupted?06:59
leoncutzit was working fine at 1st. then i uopdated the drivers and it was working fine07:00
ApOgEEok, here is the step. reboot your computer and run the livecd07:00
leoncutzbtu after few hrs, the screen keeps flickering07:00
leoncutzok07:00
leoncutzthen07:01
ApOgEEthen, you go to System > Administration > Partition Editor07:01
ApOgEEselect the partition you previously install ubuntu and delete them07:01
ApOgEEhow many hdd you have on this computer?07:02
leoncutzwhen i boot up the livecd, do i go into demo?07:02
ApOgEEyes07:02
ApOgEEgo to demo ... it will run ubuntu without any change to your HDD07:03
ApOgEEthen, you can delete/modify your HDD from there07:03
leoncutzi only hv 1 hdd. which i partition into 207:03
ApOgEEgood, so you know where you previously install your ubuntu07:04
ApOgEEjust open the Partition Editor and delete your previous installation07:04
leoncutzok then how  do i reinstall it to the same partition or do i need to resize my partition?07:04
ApOgEEafter that, you may close your Partition Editor and click on Install icon on the desktop07:05
ApOgEEfollow the instruction and you are done07:05
leoncutztks so much07:05
ApOgEEafter u delete your previous installation partition, it will be unpartitioned07:06
ApOgEEtherefore, from your ubuntu installer, it will ask you where to install them and you can select that free space07:07
leoncutztks again u. r u malaysian? how do i contact you if i need assistance in ubuntu. i got alot to learn here07:07
ApOgEEfor new installation07:07
ApOgEEI'm Malaysian07:07
ApOgEEmy blog is http://coderstalk.blogspot.com07:07
leoncutzu hv been such a great help07:07
ApOgEEthe fastest way to contact me is thru my facebook... http://www.facebook.com/m.fauzilkamil07:08
ApOgEEyou can also post question on ubuntu Malaysia mailing list...07:08
ApOgEEthere will be more people there to help you07:08
leoncutztks much07:09
ApOgEEhere is the link to join our mailing list https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-my07:10
ApOgEEyou can post your question there, or search if your question is already asked/answered07:10
ApOgEEwe also have forum at http://forums.ubuntu.com.my/07:11
ApOgEEu are lucky because I'm here by the time u come here... 07:11
leoncutzok tks man07:11
leoncutzyes i was very lucky.07:11
ApOgEEbut i'm not always monitoring this channel at this time07:11
leoncutzi was really going crazy googling the web07:11
ApOgEEnormally at night, after office hour07:12
ApOgEE;)07:12
ApOgEEno problem leoncutz , be my guest... I really love to help new ubuntu user07:12
leoncutzi really am interested in learning ubuntu but i do not hv any friends using it07:13
ApOgEEleoncutz: where r u from?07:13
leoncutzi am in kl, setapak07:13
ApOgEEbe my friend, I'm from Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team... come and join us!07:14
leoncutzdo u hv anyone here who are ubuntu users in setapak07:14
leoncutzhow do i join u guys?07:14
ApOgEEofcourse07:14
leoncutzbut i am very new. i know jack shit about this operating system....07:14
ApOgEEwe have people from averywhere around Malaysia07:14
leoncutzbut the system seems cool and its free!07:15
ApOgEEno problem, we will help you07:15
leoncutztks. will ctc u shortly.... let me try to delete it & install it now07:16
ApOgEEwe sometime have Release Party or lepaking (lepak2 kedai mamak)07:16
leoncutzohhh where?07:16
leoncutzthats fun. i can learn a few stuff but i am not a programmer fyi..07:17
ApOgEEadd me on fb, i'll invite u when we are going to meet07:17
leoncutzi cant contribute anything to u guys07:17
leoncutzok i will.07:17
leoncutzi do not hv a facebook a/c. i will use my cousing FB to add u now..\07:18
leoncutzok added u with my cousins a/c vernon fernandez07:20
leoncutzok let me go install this now07:21
leoncutzcheers07:21
leoncutzapogee r u still here?07:34
leoncutzapogee?07:35
leoncutzanyone here can help me pls07:37
leoncutzi am in partition editor, but cant delete the partition where ubuntu is install07:38
ApOgEEsorry, away ... just come back 07:39
ApOgEEleoncutz: what is the error?07:39
leoncutzi am su lucky u r still here07:40
leoncutzthe error is07:40
ApOgEEyes07:40
leoncutzlet me just explain07:40
leoncutzi got system reservud (ntfs)07:41
leoncutzthe other is just ntfs07:41
leoncutzsystem reserved07:41
leoncutznext files (ntfs)07:41
leoncutz then 07:41
leoncutzextended07:41
leoncutzext407:42
leoncutzlast linux-swap07:42
leoncutzi tried deleting the ext407:42
leoncutzthe error is "unable to delete/dev/sda5!. please unmount any logical partitions having a number higher than 507:43
ApOgEEthen?07:43
leoncutzam i trying to delete the right partition?07:44
ApOgEEis see... u boot the pc using livecd or u boot your previously installed ubuntu?07:44
ApOgEEdo u have internet connection on your ubuntu (which run on livecd)?07:44
leoncutzyes i am chatting u fm ubuntu now07:44
leoncutzthe demo version07:45
leoncutzi  boot with livecd now07:45
leoncutzi cant use the install ubuntu...07:45
ApOgEEif you have, could u please Print Screen and upload the image of your Partition Editor on http://imagebin.org07:45
ApOgEEtherefore, I can see what is your problem07:46
ApOgEEafter u upload, send me the link07:46
leoncutzok let me try07:47
ApOgEEplease07:49
leoncutzi cant coz ther is no java install07:51
leoncutzcan i email it to u now?07:52
ApOgEEeh?07:52
ApOgEEok, email me: jerungkun@gmail.com07:53
leoncutzthe site u ask me ask me to install java07:53
ApOgEEok, just email me... 07:55
leoncutzok email to ady07:55
ApOgEEi see...07:58
ApOgEEu mount that partition right?07:59
ApOgEEplease unmount the partition07:59
leoncutzi donl know what i did. how to unmount it?07:59
ApOgEEclick on Place > Home08:00
ApOgEEto view your files & directory08:01
leoncutzwhere is place?08:01
leoncutzi am really feeling stupid here.. haha08:02
ApOgEEwait... seems like u use unity08:02
ApOgEEwait... i have to check08:02
leoncutzdo u need any screen shot of the operating system i am using?08:02
leoncutzis teems like there are many versions..08:02
leoncutzseems08:02
ApOgEEyes please...08:03
leoncutzpic of?08:03
leoncutzwhat pic pls08:04
ApOgEEwait a whilw08:05
ApOgEEsomebody call me08:06
* kaeru thinks that deleting swap, then ext4 should do it08:06
kaerulooking at the back log it seems ext4 is sda5 and swap is sda608:06
kaeruleoncutz: try removing linux-swap first, and then ext408:07
leoncutzok pls wait08:07
leoncutzwhen i click linux-swap, cant delete it08:08
kaeruwhat does it say?08:08
leoncutzthen  delete it there is nothing happening08:08
leoncutzi right click the delete icon is not able to press08:08
leoncutzthe only thing i can select is ext4 but when delete is has an error08:10
leoncutzapogee?08:18
leoncutzis apogee here?08:41
ApOgEEleoncutz: 08:42
ApOgEEsorry, i'm still working... so many interruption08:42
ApOgEEso, where are we just now?08:42
leoncutzohh tks u r still here. so what is my next action08:42
leoncutzohh u r at work.. sorry. do u wanna me to buzz u later tonight if its ok with u08:43
ApOgEEyou have to unmount your hdd first08:43
ApOgEEto unmount, you can right click on the partition name from your desktop and select unmount08:43
leoncutzi was just thinking, can i delete the partitions via windows disk management?08:43
ApOgEEu don't have to08:44
ApOgEEjust close any file which u open from the partition u want to delete08:44
leoncutzok let me try it now08:44
ApOgEEand select the partition, (right-click) and select unmount08:44
ApOgEEthe partition icon should on the desktop08:45
mnajemhi all08:45
mnajemworking?08:45
ApOgEEhi mnajem 08:45
ApOgEEmnajem: can you help our friend leoncutz to delete his ubuntu partition.. i'm going away now08:46
mnajemhmm08:46
* ApOgEE greets kaeru 08:46
mnajemuse partition magic?08:46
* ApOgEE greets mnajem 08:46
* mnajem usually use this steps08:47
leoncutzhi mnajem08:47
mnajemfdisk -l /dev/<device>08:47
leoncutztks apogee08:47
mnajemsudo fdisk -l /dev/<device>08:47
mnajemthen, look at the partition that u want to delete08:47
ApOgEEleoncutz: i'm sorry, i have to go now...08:47
mnajemhi leoncutz 08:47
ApOgEEsee u later08:47
leoncutzmnajem, fyi i am very new to ubuntu08:47
mnajemok08:47
leoncutzok tks for ur assistance.08:47
leoncutzappreciate it08:48
mnajemwill help to screw ur machine, no problem08:48
leoncutzi x know this ubuntu at all08:48
leoncutzhaha08:48
mnajemok08:48
mnajemi'm not use to the gui stuffs08:48
* ApOgEE away... working hour lolz... my boss is watching via cctv... lolz again08:48
mnajemi can help if u got experience with command line based08:48
mnajemfor gui, try find gparted or alike08:48
mnajemeasier if you got partition magic08:49
leoncutzohh no, no comands at all if possible08:49
mnajemowh08:49
leoncutzcan i delete ubuntu via dick management in windows 7 or should i dload partition magic 1st08:50
mnajemi never explore/have windows 7 so i'm not sure08:50
leoncutzcan partition magic work in ubuntu?08:50
mnajempartition magic should run on windows...08:50
leoncutznow i am running woth my livecd08:50
leoncutzwith08:51
mnajemit's like this08:51
mnajemi'm not aware of any solution that allow your to resize partition08:51
mnajemwithout having to wipe everything on linux08:51
leoncutzmy ubuntu is corrupted after installation yesterday08:51
mnajembut partition magic (propietary) afaik will do08:51
ApOgEEmnajem: this is his problem, http://imagebin.org/13572008:52
ApOgEEmnajem: just show him how to unmount that partition, and then he can be able to delete em via Partition Editor a.k.a. gParted08:52
* ApOgEE away again08:53
mnajemor08:53
mnajemtry open up terminal08:53
mnajemsudo umount /dev/sda508:54
leoncutzi want to delete it & reinstall a new one..is that the best option08:54
mnajem?08:54
mnajemfor newbie yes08:54
mnajemi suspect the problem is with the bootloader...08:54
mnajemso until you grasp certain mastery level of ubuntu08:54
leoncutzwhen i use ubuntu yesterday, my screen keeps flickering08:54
mnajemi would advise to reinstall08:54
leoncutzyes i think i should08:55
mnajemit tries to find the best resolution08:55
mnajemafaik08:55
leoncutzi ve open terminal08:55
mnajemthe x server didn't properly start08:55
mnajemu're using cutting edge hardware?08:55
leoncutzso u want me to key in the code in terminal?08:55
mnajemyup08:55
mnajemsimply copy & paste08:56
mnajemdefault password try root08:56
leoncutzmine is amd turion dual core08:56
mnajemthe cpu isn't the problem08:56
mnajemmaybe the graphic card08:56
mnajem*driver08:57
mnajemubuntu designed to work AS IS08:57
leoncutzmy graphic card is 1GB ati08:57
mnajemshould be08:57
leoncutzi already paste in the terminal08:57
leoncutzit says not mounted08:57
mnajemam i talking on ubuntu-oh yeah,thought fedora08:57
mnajemhm08:57
mnajemtry08:57
mnajemmount 08:57
mnajemtype mount08:57
mnajemuse pastebin.com08:58
leoncutzkwhen i type mount there is a list 08:58
mnajemyeah, i want to see that lady08:58
leoncutzcan i email it to u pls.?08:59
mnajemhmm just use pastebin.com08:59
mnajemworks the same08:59
mnajemn other ppl can respond to ur problem also08:59
leoncutzok pasted it there09:01
leoncutzdid i install the right ubuntu version.. its 10.1009:02
mnajemlink?09:02
mnajemi shoud generate link after u submit09:02
mnajempaste it here09:02
leoncutzhttp://pastebin.com/1bh5vha209:03
mnajemhmm it does not mounted09:05
leoncutzby the way, tks for ur help here. much appreciated09:05
mnajemcurrently u re on live cd,yes?09:05
leoncutzyes09:05
* ApOgEE back09:06
ApOgEEso, how was it?09:06
ApOgEEleoncutz: can u delete the partiton yet?09:06
mnajemi don't think i got any idea to solve this09:06
mnajemheh09:06
leoncutzi just pasted some codes here09:06
mnajemit doesn't mounted09:06
mnajemso should be no problem09:06
leoncutzapogee, mnajem is trying to help me still09:06
ApOgEEleoncutz: can u delete it from Partition Editor now?09:07
leoncutzok let me try it again now09:07
ApOgEEselect the /dev/sda5 partition and delete it09:07
leoncutzapogee> same error09:07
ApOgEEleoncutz: if u right click on the linux-swap partition, what menu can u see?09:08
leoncutzi think i screwd up my machie...09:08
ApOgEEleoncutz: no u're not09:08
leoncutzswapoff09:09
leoncutzmanage flags09:09
ApOgEEleoncutz: select that swapoff09:09
leoncutzinformation\09:09
leoncutzok its scanning the files09:09
leoncutzdone09:09
leoncutznow?09:09
leoncutzdelete the linuz-swap09:09
ApOgEEyour swap partition in mounted... that is the answer for "logical partition having a number higher than 5"09:10
ApOgEEno, just swapoff09:10
ApOgEEthen delete the ext409:10
leoncutzohh now i right click there are many menus there09:10
ApOgEEyou can also delete the linux-swap too09:10
leoncutzso which is 1st?09:10
ApOgEEcan u delete it now?09:10
leoncutzanyone?09:10
ApOgEE1st swapoff09:11
leoncutzok09:11
ApOgEE2. delete ext4 and linux-swap09:11
ApOgEE3. install ubuntu09:11
leoncutzok done..hurray09:11
ApOgEEups.. before install, close other apps09:11
ApOgEEleoncutz: good09:12
leoncutzbut not there is unallocated space09:12
leoncutzhow about my dev/sda4?09:12
leoncutzhow do i install ubuntu in the same partition?09:13
ApOgEEif there is no unalocated space, delete /dev/sda4 (extended)09:13
ApOgEEthen install09:13
ApOgEEleoncutz: can u do it?09:13
leoncutzi will delete /dev/sda4 - extended now?09:13
ApOgEEyes09:13
leoncutzok done09:14
ApOgEEgood... now close the Partition Editor and install the fresh ubuntu09:14
leoncutzso may i ask where is teh space all go to? back to my C drive in windows ke?09:14
leoncutzhow do i refresh ubuntu?09:14
ApOgEEah, just click on install and follow the instruction09:15
ApOgEEwhen it ask you where to install, just select your unpartitioned free space09:15
ApOgEEothers will be done automagically09:16
leoncutzapogee: b4 i do that can i confirm somethings with u09:16
ApOgEEyes09:16
leoncutzmy hdd is 350 GB09:16
ApOgEEwhat u want to confirm?09:16
leoncutznow systemreserved 100mib09:16
leoncutzntfs : 97.66GIB09:17
ApOgEEso?09:17
leoncutzntfs:144.43GIB09:17
leoncutzUnlocatted: 55.9GIB09:17
leoncutzwhere is the 50G?09:17
leoncutzsorry.. 09:18
leoncutzjust making sure je09:18
ApOgEEleoncutz: from the Partition Editor screenshot, it seems that your drive is actually 298.09GB09:19
ApOgEEif your salesmen tell u it is 350GB, the system tell u that it is not09:19
leoncutzok.. pls wait09:20
ApOgEEleoncutz: i haven't had any idea where the 50GB goes... sometimes, the 350GB label didn't match actual capacity09:21
leoncutzok so now i will install ubuntu. will u still be online here?09:21
leoncutzso will ubuntu automatically select the unlocatted space09:22
ApOgEEnot sure if i'm still here... i'm waiting for my colleague to finish his task before I have to go to fix some servers09:23
leoncutzmnajem: tks so much too09:23
ApOgEEleoncutz: if ubuntu didn't select it automatically, you can select it in the options09:23
mnajemok,sorry for not helping09:23
leoncutzok09:23
leoncutzu did help me. appreciate it09:23
leoncutzApogee: tks much too bro09:23
leoncutzwill instal it now09:24
ApOgEEleoncutz: mnajem is a great hacker... you can learn alot from him...09:24
ApOgEE;)09:24
* ApOgEE bow to mnajem 09:24
leoncutzwell i would love to but all the codes are like jargon to me.. hahaha09:24
leoncutzi'm a graphic designer cum printer by profession...09:24
leoncutzcoding...hmmmmm09:25
leoncutznot my cup of tea09:25
leoncutzc u guys......... 09:25
leoncutzhope things go well during installation09:25
ApOgEEleoncutz: I'm just a self taught graphic & illustration artist... visit my blog at http://artofapogee.blogspot.com09:26
ApOgEElols09:26
ApOgEE;P09:26
* ApOgEE sambung buat keje.... thanks mnajem 09:26
mnajemApOgEE, right09:28
leoncutzapogee or mnajem are u guys still here?09:45
leoncutzhv a big problem now..09:46
ApOgEEyes leoncutz 09:46
leoncutznow i can load into my windows 09:46
ApOgEEwusup?09:46
ApOgEEthen?09:46
leoncutzi am still running with livecd09:46
ApOgEEok09:46
leoncutzi can load into my windows during boot up09:46
leoncutzerror : no such partition09:47
leoncutzgrub rescue >09:47
ApOgEEhave u finish installing your ubuntu?09:47
leoncutznot yet because during the installation wizard, there is an option to install alongside or use the selected partition to install09:48
ApOgEEthen?09:49
leoncutzwhen i use install alongside, it takes up space for my other partition, so i will use advance installation09:49
ApOgEEwhat do u mean other partition?09:49
leoncutzthere i can choose the free space partition but when i click install it doesent want to install09:49
ApOgEEfile? (which is ntfs)?09:50
leoncutzthe unlocated space which i deleted the ubuntu09:50
ApOgEEwhy it doesn't want to install? any error?09:50
leoncutznope. the unlocated space09:50
leoncutzyes. there is an error. ask me to go back to partition something.....09:51
leoncutzi dont really remember09:51
leoncutzapogee: why cant i boot into windows?09:51
ApOgEEindeed, you have to make the partition if u are using advance mode09:51
leoncutzok so i go to advance mode right?09:51
ApOgEEwait... which one is the question... u want to boot windows?09:52
leoncutzthen i select the unallocated space & then i click add09:52
ApOgEEjust now u said u can load windows09:52
leoncutzno i cant load into windows...09:52
leoncutzsorry typo error kot09:52
leoncutzthere is an error09:52
ApOgEEwhat happen when u load windows?09:52
leoncutzno such partition09:53
leoncutzgrub rescue ? 09:53
leoncutzgrub rescue ?>09:53
leoncutzsorry09:53
leoncutzgrub rescue >09:53
ApOgEEowh... u mess up your grub09:53
leoncutzi got no idea what u meant by that.. haha. can it be solved?09:54
ApOgEEgrub is your bootloader... you can select either to boot windows or ubuntu from grub09:54
ApOgEEyes, it can be solved09:54
leoncutzohh yes that appeared when i had to operating systems installed09:54
ApOgEEafter u install your ubuntu, you can update your grub settings09:54
leoncutzohh ok.. so now how do i install ubuntu in the advance mode inorder for me to utilise the free space?09:55
ApOgEEhow did u install your previous ubuntu? did u manually partition or u leave free space?09:55
ApOgEEjust do the same way you install previously09:55
leoncutzapogee... sorrymycomputer hang just now10:04
leoncutzpreviously i install alongside other opersting system & it will tske up space fm my C drive10:06
leoncutznow i am installing ubuntu it takes up space fm my other partition that i use tokeep my files10:06
ApOgEEpreviously, how was the partition?10:09
ApOgEEyou didn't make any partition?10:09
ApOgEEor you resize your windows partition?10:09
leoncutzthe last time i instll it automaticlly cretated the partition for me10:10
leoncutzi didnt make any partitions at all10:11
leoncutzb4 installing ubuntu i already had 2 partitions10:11
leoncutznow my ubuntu instllation is lmost done on my other computer.. will log on here once its done10:12
leoncutzapogee i think the installation is taking some time. willu be online here later  just incase u g home?10:49
ApOgEEhope so... I have meeting tonite11:17
ApOgEEmaybe u can ask on the mailing list or forum if you found nobody is here11:18
ApOgEEif i'm not here, maybe the others will be here11:18
leoncutzok. tks11:18
ApOgEEthey are all better than me... i'm just a newbie11:18
ApOgEElike you too11:18
ApOgEE;)11:18
leoncutzbut b4 u go it difficult to olve the problem i hv to od into windows?11:19
ApOgEEleoncutz: I'm just a self taught graphic & illustration artist... visit my blog at http://artofapogee.blogspot.com11:19
leoncutzto load into windoes11:19
leoncutzok.11:19
leoncutztks11:19
ApOgEEtry this if not successful...11:20
leoncutzwhat is is it?11:21
ApOgEEsorry... i'm disconnected just now11:23
ApOgEEtry this...11:23
ApOgEEif still have problem, you open partition editor11:23
ApOgEEthen resize your windows partition back like before u install ubuntu11:23
ApOgEEand you may have that option to install it side by side11:24
ApOgEEthis is just an idea11:24
ApOgEEok... i got to go now11:24
ApOgEEsee u later11:24
leoncutzok tks11:24
leoncutztks much11:24
leoncutzgood evening all15:03
leoncutzhi apogee & mnajem15:03
leoncutzi've successfully install ubuntu but there is no sound coming from my speakers15:04
leoncutzanyone here15:14
leoncutzanyone here pls15:44
leoncutzgood  morning.. anyone awake?17:50
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