| skaet | ubuntu desktop and alternate is up on the iso tracker now | 00:01 |
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| jdstrand | skaet: I'm past eod atm. is there anything you need from me now? do you need me to check in later? | 00:02 |
| skaet | jdstrand, if you could check in later that would be appreciated. | 00:02 |
| skaet | right now, just flavor building images, and waiting for the arm ones to be ready. | 00:04 |
| * skaet -> dinner, biab | 00:05 | |
| jdstrand | kdebindings/kde on armel update: depends on working qt4-x11, which is being worked on first | 00:06 |
| jdstrand | (actively being worked on that is) | 00:07 |
| jdstrand | skaet: ack | 00:07 |
| * jdstrand -> dinner, etc | 00:07 | |
| ogra | jdstrand, if qt4-x11 is broken now it wont make a2 on armel | 00:08 |
| ogra | (takes to long to build) | 00:08 |
| jdstrand | ogra: I'm just passing along info from NCommander | 00:09 |
| ogra | ah | 00:09 |
| jdstrand | he is aware of both issues and is actively working on fixing qt4-x11 | 00:09 |
| ogra | we are expecting a new qt upstream any day now (according to riddell) | 00:09 |
| jdstrand | once that is done, he'll start on kdebindings | 00:09 |
| ogra | yes, i know i just talked to him about it ;) | 00:10 |
| jdstrand | hehe | 00:10 |
| jdstrand | well, there you go :) | 00:10 |
| jdstrand | nice that we all understand each other | 00:10 |
| ogra | heh | 00:10 |
| jdstrand | ok, biab myself | 00:10 |
| jdstrand | skaet: fyi, the dvd build issues should be fixed. seems they tried to snag empathy-common (= 2.32.2-0ubuntu7). empathy 2.32.2-0ubuntu8 on powerpc only finished building 45 minutes ago and the publisher hadn't copied them yet | 00:18 |
| jdstrand | ok, biab for reals | 00:18 |
| ogra | skaet, go ! | 00:30 |
| * ogra is off to bed | 00:31 | |
| skaet | ogra, okie. sleep well. | 00:42 |
| GrueMaster | skaet: I agree. Everything looks good on this end. | 01:03 |
| skaet | Thanks GrueMaster. Am waiting for the ubuntu dvd build to come to an end, then will be kicking it off. | 01:03 |
| GrueMaster | np. I'll look for it in a few hours. | 01:04 |
| skaet | :) will post here when I publish to iso tracker. | 01:04 |
| jdstrand | skaet: I am around again | 01:41 |
| skaet | thanks jdstrand. | 01:41 |
| jdstrand | skaet: it seems that things are going ok, but I am only getting failure reports so not sure what the actual status is | 01:42 |
| skaet | we still had the daily builds enabled it appears. | 01:42 |
| jdstrand | (the two I mentioned (powerpc) are the only feedback I've seen) | 01:42 |
| skaet | they're off now, and the ubuntu DVD just finished building. | 01:43 |
| jdstrand | \o/ | 01:43 |
| jdstrand | so I was right about libreoffice. always nice :) | 01:43 |
| jdstrand | well | 01:43 |
| skaet | I'm about to kick off the netbook builds | 01:43 |
| jdstrand | I was intially wrong, but then ended right | 01:43 |
| skaet | and expect that if there is any trouble, that's where we'll see it. | 01:44 |
| jdstrand | I score that as +1 for jdstrand | 01:44 |
| skaet | :) | 01:44 |
| jdstrand | skaet: how long do they typically take? | 01:44 |
| skaet | suggest you check back in an hour or so | 01:44 |
| skaet | I'm not sure on the arm side, depends on the builders. | 01:45 |
| jdstrand | there are a lot of natty_probs for arm. mostly kde, but still a lot | 01:45 |
| * skaet nods | 01:45 | |
| skaet | I'm not building kubuntu mobile this time round, based on earlier feedback. Its already documented in the release notes. | 01:46 |
| jdstrand | cool | 01:46 |
| skaet | ubuntu dvd's are up on the iso tracker now, for those interested. | 01:55 |
| GrueMaster | Sigh. Latest X has issues on armel. namely it segfaults on start. | 02:14 |
| GrueMaster | Tracing it now. | 02:14 |
| skaet | GrueMaster, ack. :( | 02:18 |
| GrueMaster | yep. | 02:18 |
| skaet | edubuntu dvd's are up on the iso tracker now. | 02:37 |
| slangasek | skaet: bug #711614, if it doesn't break all hardware that uses the framebuffer driver, at least breaks X on all common ARM hardware. Working on a fix now; do you want me to upload when I have it? | 03:06 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 711614 in xserver-xorg-video-fbdev (Ubuntu) "X crashes on OMAP BeagleBoard C4 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711614 | 03:06 |
| skaet | slangasek, yes please. | 03:07 |
| slangasek | ok | 03:07 |
| slangasek | (it's possible it really is ARM-specific, but AFAICS the same segfault would happen in the PCI codepath) | 03:07 |
| * skaet crosses fingers crossed its ARM-specific. | 03:09 | |
| slangasek | well, it doesn't affect anything using the common video drivers (nouveau/intel/radeon) | 03:09 |
| slangasek | but I think it does affect anything using framebuffer | 03:09 |
| GrueMaster | That could mean VM's I would think. | 03:10 |
| slangasek | k, X working here again | 03:23 |
| slangasek | xserver-xorg-video-fbdev 0.4.2-3ubuntu4 uploaded | 03:26 |
| skaet | ubuntu-netbook preinstalled finished building, 20110202 is there, but I'm kicking off a fresh one, to pick up xserver-xorg-video-fbdev upload. | 03:56 |
| GrueMaster | skaet: I don't think the new package has published yet. May want to wait an hour. Let me see. | 03:57 |
| GrueMaster | Yea, need to wait for the next publisher run to complete before respinning the images. | 04:01 |
| skaet | GrueMaster, ack. ok will kill it off. | 04:02 |
| skaet | GrueMaster, please let me know when you see it published so it will pick up. | 04:02 |
| GrueMaster | I think it will show up in the next hour. I was told that the publisher starts at :03 and takes ~40 minutes. | 04:03 |
| jdstrand | skaet: so, seems like things are in general still ok (except the xserver-xorg-video-fbdev you are waiting on) | 04:25 |
| jdstrand | skaet: GrueMaster was right though. usually by :40 it is ready | 04:26 |
| skaet | jdstrand, couple of weirdnesses with the builds | 04:26 |
| skaet | jdstrand, I'll get you to show me how I can check directly next time :) | 04:26 |
| jdstrand | GrueMaster: in the future, it is possible for me (or cjwatson, or pitti, et al) to reschedule the publisher run if it is required | 04:27 |
| jdstrand | err | 04:27 |
| jdstrand | skaet: ^ | 04:27 |
| jdstrand | GrueMaster: nm | 04:27 |
| jdstrand | skaet: where did you see the weirdness? I don't have the emails | 04:28 |
| skaet | in terms of the weirdnesses, for flavors mythbuntu and ubuntu studio, only i386 versions were produced. Not sure why no amd64 came out. | 04:28 |
| skaet | does that trigger any prior conversations? | 04:29 |
| jdstrand | no... there are some myth nbs on powerpc.. | 04:29 |
| jdstrand | ah | 04:30 |
| jdstrand | skaet: it looks like the amd64 ubuntustudio got a sigint | 04:30 |
| jdstrand | KeyboardInterrupt | 04:30 |
| jdstrand | ^ from germinate | 04:30 |
| skaet | hmm, user error on my part? or something else.... | 04:31 |
| jdstrand | skaet: that was an email from antimony. I initially assumed it was intentional | 04:31 |
| skaet | heh, was cutting and pasting, so .... | 04:32 |
| jdstrand | skaet: was the mythtv run part of a longer command that included that? | 04:32 |
| skaet | jdstrand, yea, I was trying to get all the flavors queued up | 04:33 |
| jdstrand | that seems to explain it then | 04:33 |
| skaet | ok, will kick them off again, and see if that fixes it. doing it manually this time... :/ | 04:34 |
| skaet | have marked them in iso tracker as being rebuilt as well. | 04:36 |
| jdstrand | cool | 04:36 |
| jdstrand | skaet: at this point do you need more for anything? thinking I may head to bed. will be available at 7am or so | 04:37 |
| jdstrand | s/more/me/ | 04:37 |
| skaet | thanks jdstrand. | 04:37 |
| skaet | sleep well | 04:37 |
| jdstrand | ok cool | 04:37 |
| skaet | am expecting cjwatson will be online soon, and sort out what's left at this point. :) | 04:37 |
| jdstrand | skaet: try to get some sleep yourself. I'll check the logs first thing and see if I can do anything (assuming cjwatson and pitti don't get to it first) | 04:37 |
| jdstrand | alrighty | 04:38 |
| jdstrand | good night! | 04:38 |
| skaet | :) | 04:38 |
| jdstrand | skaet: oh, sorry. I just remembered that the 04:03 UTC publication run is pre-empted bye another job :\ | 04:47 |
| jdstrand | skaet: that means that the fbdev driver won't be ready until for another hour | 04:47 |
| skaet | ok | 04:47 |
| jdstrand | s/bye/by/ | 04:48 |
| GrueMaster | jdstrand: Thanks for the update. | 05:04 |
| GrueMaster | Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to have hit the pool yet. | 05:04 |
| jdstrand | GrueMaster: no, a little bit later I mentioned that the publisher is preempted at 04:03 UTC | 05:06 |
| GrueMaster | Ah. Missed that. | 05:06 |
| * jdstrand forgot about that too | 05:06 | |
| jdstrand | anyhoo, heading off | 05:06 |
| slangasek | -fbdev installed (at last) | 06:25 |
| skaet | yup, armel builds kicked off again. Will leave it to cjwatson/pitti to move them into the iso tracker when they're ready. | 06:43 |
| skaet | have rebuilt the ubuntu studio, and mythbuntu - and still only i386 images. | 06:43 |
| skaet | have uploaded the i386 images to the tracker. | 06:44 |
| skaet | pitti, see slangasek's comments about framebuffer ^^. Should an image rebuild be triggered to pick up his fix beyond armel, or do we just document? | 06:47 |
| * skaet --> bed | 06:48 | |
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| pitti | Good morning | 08:13 |
| pitti | ogra: sorry, went offline shortly before your ping | 08:13 |
| pitti | skaet_afk, cjwatson: I don't think we need to respin non-armel for this if it doesn't hurt i386/amd64; having an out-of-date package isn't that important for a2 IMHO | 08:18 |
| pitti | ogra, GrueMaster: I'm adding http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-netbook/daily-preinstalled/20110202/ as "Ubuntu ARM Preinstalled omap{3,4}"; are there any other armel images to add to the tracker? | 08:23 |
| pitti | there's an "Ubuntu desktop armel", but I don't think we build images for that? | 08:24 |
| apw | pitti, are we waiting for more fixes or is whats in the archive 'done' ... ie are any bugs in it something i have to live with | 08:36 |
| pitti | apw: I guess we are "done", unless we have a real showstopper? what bug are you talking about in particular? | 08:37 |
| apw | i suspect its one of the stacking in unity isues. i think i have a modal dialog open which i can't see or interact with | 08:37 |
| pitti | I think that's the kind of bug we need to release-note | 08:38 |
| apw | plus for me non-working scroll bars in both places thingies | 08:38 |
| apw | ok | 08:38 |
| apw | i'll go moan on ayatana | 08:38 |
| pitti | confirmed the scrollbar problem | 08:39 |
| pitti | but at this point we should only respin for install failures or major startup failures | 08:39 |
| pitti | everything else can be fixed post-install with an update | 08:39 |
| persia | cjwatson, The power here is 10A/100V, and most stuff is unearthed (or only rarely and optionally earthed). Perhaps it's a bit less odd when there's a special earthing clip for the wire at the base of the socket. Sorry for the confusion. | 09:05 |
| ogra | pitti, you will have to respin everything that uses the framebuffer driver, do VMs use vesa on intel ? | 09:21 |
| ogra | pitti, and we would need 02.1, not 02 on the tracker | 09:22 |
| pitti | does it matter which graphics card the VM host uses? | 09:22 |
| pitti | ogra: oh, I thought skate already triggered new images, and 0202 is the latest we have | 09:22 |
| ogra | its the X framebuffer driver thats broken | 09:22 |
| ogra | no, she built 02.1 | 09:23 |
| pitti | anyway, current images work fine in kvm | 09:23 |
| ogra | 02 has the broken X | 09:23 |
| ogra | 02.1 is the respin after slangasek's fix | 09:23 |
| pitti | ah, they appeared now, will update tracker; thanks! | 09:24 |
| ogra | thanks too :) | 09:24 |
| pitti | done | 09:24 |
| pitti | ogra: so "Ubuntu desktop armel" doesn't exist any more, right? | 09:24 |
| ogra | right | 09:24 |
| ogra | we only have netbook-preinstalled | 09:25 |
| ogra | there is a preinstalled headless (name still in discussion) coming for FF | 09:25 |
| ogra | but not yet | 09:26 |
| * ogra wonders where you see that desktop image | 09:26 | |
| pitti | ogra: it's an option in the "add image" in the tracker, from older releases | 10:00 |
| ogra | ah, k | 10:00 |
| ogra | i was digging on cdimage | 10:00 |
| ogra | :) | 10:00 |
| cjwatson | persia: heh, no problem | 10:10 |
| cjwatson | pitti: catching up and I have a batch of notes from skaet. What's the summary from your end at the moment? | 10:11 |
| pitti | cjwatson: good morning | 10:11 |
| cjwatson | psusi sent me a parted fix for dmraid, but I assume we've missed the boat? | 10:11 |
| pitti | cjwatson: current armel images are on the tracker, rest should work | 10:11 |
| cjwatson | ev is producing a new ubiquity upload for bug 702898 | 10:11 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 702898 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with TypeError in changed(): value is of wrong type for this column (affects: 21) (dups: 8) (heat: 110)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702898 | 10:11 |
| pitti | it was an open question whether to respin i386/amd64 for the fbdev fix | 10:12 |
| pitti | but as it doesn't seem to break kvm etc., I don't think we should respin just for that | 10:12 |
| pitti | cjwatson: ah, that sounds like a better reason for respinning then | 10:12 |
| cjwatson | affects all users whose IP addresses are unknown to the geoip database, apparently | 10:12 |
| cjwatson | the fix is a pair of str() casts | 10:13 |
| pitti | I haven't done a real-iron test install myself yet with today's image (just with earlier ones), that's still on my agenda for today | 10:14 |
| ev | slightly correction: it affects all users who cannot reach geoip-lookup.ubuntu.com | 10:14 |
| cjwatson | whee, even better | 10:14 |
| ev | or whatever the address is | 10:14 |
| cjwatson | so any non-networked install for example | 10:14 |
| ev | need more coffee | 10:14 |
| ev | exactly | 10:14 |
| cjwatson | any opinions on the parted change? bug 711616 | 10:15 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 711616 in parted (Ubuntu) "[PATCH] Fix dmraid install regression (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711616 | 10:15 |
| cjwatson | technically affects all images but I don't know that we have to care about them all being in sync | 10:15 |
| pitti | the patch looks sane enough; does that get folded into the ubiquity source, or is it a separate package? | 10:17 |
| cjwatson | separate | 10:17 |
| pitti | I don't mind having out-of-sync packages for A2, so I'm fine with having it on every image we need to respin anyway, and document the rest | 10:18 |
| pitti | e. g. I don't think we should respin armels for this | 10:18 |
| ogra | only if it fixes an oem-config issue ;) | 10:19 |
| ogra | we dont use plain ubiquity nor doe we use dmraid on preinstalled | 10:20 |
| ogra | *do | 10:20 |
| cjwatson | I wouldn't expect to see dmraid on armel, no | 10:20 |
| ogra | i would | 10:20 |
| cjwatson | blink | 10:21 |
| ogra | but not by default | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | on what kind of platform? | 10:21 |
| ogra | people do weird things to run a NAS with USB disks ;) | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | uploaded, anyway | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | bizarre | 10:21 |
| * ogra wonders how to download the images with the constantly segfaulting NM on his laptop | 10:23 | |
| cjwatson | mythbuntu desktop amd64 and ubuntustudio alternate amd64 posted | 11:48 |
| cjwatson | pitti: ok, so which images do we need to respin for the new ubiquity+parted? | 12:39 |
| cjwatson | pitti: * desktop {amd64,i386}? | 12:39 |
| pitti | edubuntu DVD as well, I suppose? | 12:39 |
| pitti | ubuntu and edubuntu DVDs didn't get testing yet anyway | 12:40 |
| cjwatson | yeah, DVDs too | 12:40 |
| pitti | I can't see anything else | 12:40 |
| cjwatson | OK, I'll get started on those | 12:40 |
| pitti | ok, thanks | 12:40 |
| cjwatson | ev: does oem-config use the geoip selector? | 12:41 |
| cjwatson | I'm not desperately inclined to respin alternates, maybe we can just release-note | 12:41 |
| pitti | the workaround would be to disable the network during oem-setup? | 12:42 |
| cjwatson | enable, I think | 12:43 |
| * cjwatson queues up giant build set | 12:44 | |
| cjwatson | echo ubuntu desktop; buildlive ubuntu daily-live && for-project ubuntu cron.daily-live && build-chinese-edition /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/www/full/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-i386.iso; echo kubuntu desktop; buildlive kubuntu daily-live && for-project kubuntu cron.daily-live; echo xubuntu desktop; buildlive xubuntu daily-live && for-project xubuntu cron.daily-live; echo mythbuntu desktop; buildlive mythbuntu daily-live ... | 12:44 |
| cjwatson | ... && for-project mythbuntu cron.daily-live; echo kubuntu-mobile; buildlive kubuntu-mobile daily-live && for-project kubuntu-mobile cron.daily-live; echo ubuntu dvd; buildlive ubuntu-dvd dvd && for-project ubuntu cron.dvd; echo edubuntu dvd; buildlive edubuntu-dvd dvd && for-project edubuntu cron.dvd; echo kubuntu dvd; buildlive kubuntu-dvd dvd && for-project kubuntu cron.dvd | 12:44 |
| cjwatson | I'm archiving jaunty off cdimage and releases to save space | 12:57 |
| ev | cjwatson: yes | 13:05 |
| cjwatson | ev: would you be OK with release-noting that problem for oem-config? | 13:05 |
| ev | sure | 13:05 |
| ev | after lunch, if that's okay | 13:06 |
| cjwatson | oh, yeah, I just mean OK with not respinning for it | 13:07 |
| ev | ah, indeed | 13:11 |
| ev | done | 13:52 |
| ev | feel free to reword that if its not to your liking | 13:53 |
| Riddell | where are the release notes? | 13:55 |
| ev | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview | 13:55 |
| didrocks | hey | 14:06 |
| didrocks | so, I have a fix for a compiz crash at start some people seem to get | 14:07 |
| didrocks | (bug #708812) | 14:07 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 708812 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in CompOption::value() (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 28)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708812 | 14:07 |
| didrocks | is there a respin schedulded? | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | there's one in progress | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | there is not currently another scheduled | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | certainly looks like you should upload that anyway and we'll see what happens | 14:09 |
| didrocks | ok | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | oh, hmm | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | compiz has fairly tight versioned dependencies and is an arch all/any mix | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | so buildd skew could break one of the respins in progress | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | let's see, how long does it take to build? | 14:10 |
| didrocks | cjwatson: ok, so I can wait for the respins to be finished | 14:10 |
| didrocks | cjwatson: where should I monitor that? iso.qa ? | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | mm, takes over an hour on armel, so no way to reliably squeeze it in | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | there's no good monitoring really, I'll have to just tell you | 14:11 |
| didrocks | ok, just ping me please then when you think it's safe | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | actually, mind you, I'm not doing any armel respins at the moment, and everything else takes <30 minutes | 14:12 |
| cjwatson | didrocks: if you go ahead right now I believe it should be safe | 14:12 |
| didrocks | cjwatson: excellent, doing it now then. Thanks :) | 14:12 |
| cjwatson | (because all of amd64/i386/powerpc will build before the next publisher run) | 14:12 |
| cjwatson | and all the distro buildds are currently idle | 14:13 |
| stgraber | cjwatson: what's part of that respin ? | 14:13 |
| didrocks | ok, nice to get that fix soon :) | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | stgraber: ubiquity fix upon failure to contact geoip; parted fix for broken dmraid installations; um, whatever else was in the archive | 14:16 |
| stgraber | cjwatson: ok, so that's going to affect all desktop builds ? shouldn't they be disabled on the tracker ? | 14:17 |
| cjwatson | it's such a hassle to go around clicking all the buttons | 14:17 |
| cjwatson | done now | 14:18 |
| * pitti disables ubuntu desktops as well | 14:23 | |
| pitti | ah, actually, are they current already? | 14:23 |
| pitti | 13:33 UTC | 14:23 |
| pitti | checking manifest.. | 14:24 |
| stgraber | marjo: Speaking of the tracker ;) Could you check on which machine it's running now and see if I can get my ssh access restored ? | 14:24 |
| pitti | they are, sorry; reenabling | 14:25 |
| stgraber | marjo: I lost access to it on Lucid's release week when it was moved to another box. I used to have ssh access with sudo rights to the "db" user to access the postgresql DB and run some scripts. | 14:25 |
| marjo | stgraber: ok, will do | 14:30 |
| cjwatson | pitti: yes, they were current | 14:53 |
| cjwatson | Kubuntu desktops posted now too | 14:53 |
| Riddell | thanks | 14:55 |
| === skaet_afk is now known as skaet | ||
| pitti | uh -- "ubiquity[2970]: segfault at bbadbeef ... in libwebkitgtk-1.0.so.0.5.2 | 15:29 |
| cjwatson | that came up before | 15:30 |
| pitti | not only is this unfortunate, it's also a really snarky address to crash at | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | bug 710852 | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | err | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | bug 710582 | 15:30 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 710582 in yelp (Ubuntu Natty) (and 5 other projects) "webkit does not implement "assert" sanely (ubiquity crashes after step 'Who are you', yelp segfaults) (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 30)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710582 | 15:30 |
| pitti | ah, thanks | 15:30 |
| pitti | I guess I'll release-note that then | 15:32 |
| cjwatson | ev: is there a way to disable the slideshow at run-time or boot-time? | 15:34 |
| ev | you can always uninstall the package | 15:34 |
| cjwatson | mm, I was hoping for something release-notable | 15:38 |
| smoser | cjwatson, can you populate tracker from http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/natty/20110202/published-ec2-daily.txt please | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | smoser: done | 15:40 |
| jibel | pitti, whats your cpu ? I can reproduce the crash on anthenticAMD but not on Intel. | 15:46 |
| smoser | cjwatson, or someone... | 15:46 |
| smoser | so i click on one of those amis | 15:46 |
| smoser | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/4959 | 15:46 |
| smoser | then click on one of the tests | 15:46 |
| smoser | and there is no where to record anything | 15:46 |
| smoser | ie: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4959/549 is blank | 15:46 |
| smoser | stupid user | 15:46 |
| smoser | login, smoser. | 15:47 |
| smoser | (sorry for the wasted bytes) | 15:47 |
| skaet | smoser, np | 15:50 |
| stgraber | skaet: what page do I update to release note something ? I'd like to release note LTSP as non-working for Edubuntu and Ubuntu Alternate | 15:50 |
| pitti | cjwatson: that should be possible in the live system, though; apt-get purge ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu actually works, ubiquity just looks rather funny then (small window) | 15:52 |
| skaet | stgraber: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview | 15:52 |
| apw | stgraber, whats the blocker on that? | 15:53 |
| pitti | skaet: good morning | 15:53 |
| stgraber | - the new nbd-client that somebody merged last week gets stuck on I/O wait when connecting for the second time to the same server (blocking login) | 15:54 |
| stgraber | - calling /etc/X11/Xsession fails as gnome-session needs a parameter now | 15:54 |
| stgraber | (calling only "/etc/X11/Xsession" should start the "default" session and not just say "No valid session found") | 15:55 |
| skaet | pitti, good afternoon, from the logs looks like the fun has continued since last night... | 15:55 |
| stgraber | didrocks: ^ (as you're around ;)) | 15:55 |
| didrocks | stgraber: on a call, will look at it then :) | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | pitti: yeah, though it's not really a graceful workaround | 15:56 |
| pitti | cjwatson: right, but at least it gets you further; test install still running, if it succeeds, want me to release note it? | 15:56 |
| cjwatson | yep - if it only happens on amd64, that's interesting too | 15:57 |
| pitti | my i386 test install went fine, but that was without internet (broadcom wifi on the dell mini) | 15:57 |
| pitti | this amd64 run is in kvm | 15:57 |
| pitti | but as the slideshow shouldn't access the network, that's hopefully not a factor | 15:58 |
| cjwatson | you hope. who knows what webkit does :) | 15:58 |
| pitti | well, webkit might try to fetch something | 15:58 |
| cjwatson | but yeah | 15:58 |
| pitti | extra CSS or whatnot | 15:58 |
| cjwatson | xml schema | 15:58 |
| pitti | I'll test i386 in kvm afterwards to check | 15:58 |
| pitti | and amd64 without network as well | 16:00 |
| pitti | jibel: cpu> crash was in kvm | 16:02 |
| pitti | jibel: intel atom (netbook) i386 worked | 16:02 |
| stgraber | skaet, didrocks: bug 707232 (initially reported by linaro, added ubuntu task and set gnome-session as the package for now) | 16:08 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 707232 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Netbook image - no valid session found (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/707232 | 16:08 |
| skaet | stgraber, thanks! | 16:09 |
| stgraber | skaet: nbd issue is bug 711951 | 16:14 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 711951 in nbd (Ubuntu) "New nbd-client hangs when connecting a second time to a server (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711951 | 16:14 |
| pitti | cjwatson: I confirmed that it's unrelated to the network and amd64 specific, and that purging slideshow works; documenting.. | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 16:21 |
| didrocks | stgraber: hey | 16:28 |
| stgraber | didrocks: hi | 16:28 |
| didrocks | stgraber: so, it doesns't need a parameter… the default should still be called without one, isn't it? | 16:28 |
| stgraber | didrocks: currently some systems including LTSP start: "/etc/X11/Xsession" without any parameter an expect the default session to open | 16:29 |
| stgraber | didrocks: calling that basically starts "gnome-session" still without parameter | 16:29 |
| stgraber | didrocks: which currently fails | 16:29 |
| didrocks | stgraber: interesting, let me have a look | 16:29 |
| didrocks | one sec | 16:29 |
| stgraber | I'd expect "gnome-session" without any parameter to start whatever should be the default, so probably unity and falling back to classic if unity doesn't work on the hardware (quite likely with LTSP) | 16:30 |
| pitti | didrocks, seb128: I brushed up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview a bit now; do you have suggestions what to add to the "desktop" section or notable known bugs in compiz/unity which should be documented? | 16:30 |
| didrocks | stgraber: oh you're right | 16:31 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, I'll add some crashes and issues with unity | 16:31 |
| didrocks | pitti: will do it before EOD | 16:31 |
| pitti | didrocks: merci | 16:31 |
| didrocks | pitti: yw :) | 16:31 |
| didrocks | stgraber: so, ok for ubuntu.session for being the default when calling it with nothing? | 16:32 |
| didrocks | stgraber: I'll add a patch, can you file a bug, please? | 16:32 |
| didrocks | (I'll report the handing to upstream as well) | 16:33 |
| stgraber | didrocks: bug 707232 | 16:33 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 707232 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Netbook image - no valid session found (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/707232 | 16:33 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 16:33 |
| apw | stgraber, ok if its in D there may be a kernel interaction ... i've requested some debugging in your bug (ndb one) | 16:33 |
| didrocks | stgraber: thanks :) | 16:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, I will let didrocks list those, no need to duplicate the work, not sure the jockey issues are worth mentioning | 16:33 |
| pitti | seb128: I don't think so; nvidia/fglrx are now disabled anyway, and broadcom can be installed from the installer | 16:34 |
| stgraber | apw: ok, I saw a recent upload of nbd-client so thought it might be that, but nbd.ko can also be the problem (or the interaction between nbd-client and nbd.ko) | 16:34 |
| pitti | seb128: but then again I didn't see the crash; if it's prominent, I'm happy to add it | 16:34 |
| apw | stgraber, indeed, either could be at fault, knowing what the client is trying to do when it locks may help, which is what i am asking for :) | 16:34 |
| didrocks | cjwatson: pitti: btw, no respin scheduled for now? (just to know if I need to report the crash at startup or not in the TechnicalOverview) | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | didrocks: I don't at present but am willing to be overruled ... | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | since skaet's up now I reckon it's her call | 16:35 |
| pitti | didrocks: not scheduled for other reasons, anyway | 16:35 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, I was not sure if that was a "crash for everybody after install" or not | 16:35 |
| didrocks | ok, I'll mention it for now | 16:35 |
| * skaet emerging back from release note... and scanning log | 16:36 | |
| seb128 | pitti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/711225 I mean | 16:36 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 711225 in jockey (Ubuntu) "jockey-gtk crashed with TypeError in _cleanup(): an integer is required (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,New] | 16:36 |
| pitti | seb128: it looks like a corner case to me; I thought you meant bug 706193 | 16:37 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 706193 in jockey (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "jockey-gtk crashed with AttributeError in __getattr__(): 'gi.repository.Gtk' object has no attribute 'ICON_LOOKUP_USE_BUILTIN' (affects: 22) (dups: 21) (heat: 180)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/706193 | 16:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, I've no clue about the crash, just that jockey doesn't start on my alpha2 test install | 16:37 |
| seb128 | pitti, if that's a corner case great | 16:37 |
| pitti | bah, compiz focus issues are driving me mad | 16:38 |
| stgraber | apw: ok, updated bug report with some more info | 16:40 |
| stgraber | apw: I'm rebooting my VM now and will try the old nbd-client to see if that fixes/workaround the problem | 16:41 |
| apw | didrocks, i think i just got your new compiz ... had a working compiz on login 5/5, as against about 1/4 before | 16:41 |
| didrocks | apw: nice, that was the goal TBH :) | 16:42 |
| apw | didrocks, :) thought you should know | 16:42 |
| didrocks | apw: thanks for the feedback, nice to have some good news in this crashing time ;) | 16:42 |
| apw | didrocks, i now am seeing huge delays starting indicators about 1/4 .. | 16:42 |
| apw | stgraber, good thanks | 16:43 |
| didrocks | apw: if you try to killall unity-panel-service? does it fix it? (no hurry though) | 16:43 |
| apw | didrocks, they come eventually I'd say between 30s and 60s (not measured it) just not 'immediate' like normal | 16:44 |
| didrocks | apw: yeah, try kill this service (it will respawn) in that case, juste to ensure it's the unity or the indicator side | 16:44 |
| apw | didrocks, will do that next time it occurs | 16:45 |
| didrocks | sure :) | 16:45 |
| apw | stgraber, could i get the whole dmesg please | 16:46 |
| stgraber | apw: going to boot a livecd to reproduce it instead, I just trashed my VM by force rebooting it too much (last initrd is probably half-synced to the disk so it won't boot) | 16:49 |
| apw | stgraber, ok thanks, i suspect this is a kernel locking issue from the dump you have in there | 16:49 |
| stgraber | using the old client didn't help, haven't tried the old server yet but I don't think it'd change anything | 16:50 |
| apw | stgraber, want to know if there is anything before that .... feel free to move this discussion over to #ubuntu-kernel as we are likely spamming release here | 16:50 |
| * cjwatson posts xubuntu desktop and mythbuntu desktop. sorry for being tardy on those | 16:53 | |
| cjwatson | ubuntu dvd, edubuntu dvd, and kubuntu dvd are still in the pipeline; please could somebody post those when they're done? I need to go out | 16:54 |
| stgraber | I'll do it | 16:55 |
| cjwatson | thanks | 16:55 |
| * Daviey wonders if the release team would slap Daviey with a wet trout if he suggested a Eucalyptus upload for A2. | 17:12 | |
| * skaet has hands full with unity foo. | 17:15 | |
| skaet | Daviey, what's it fixing? | 17:15 |
| Daviey | skaet, FTBFS, ability to start instances and a security fix. | 17:16 |
| * apw hands skaet the biggest trout in his lake | 17:17 | |
| Daviey | skaet, The current UEC experience is weak, making A2 somewhat pointless benchmark for it. | 17:17 |
| * skaet accepts trout from apw - contemplating roasting it rather than throwing it around though... | 17:17 | |
| skaet | Daviey, ok, lets add it into the queue for rebuilds, and call off QA on those images. | 17:18 |
| skaet | don't think they've gotten too far. | 17:18 |
| Daviey | skaet, great! thanks | 17:18 |
| * Daviey munches on trout. | 17:18 | |
| skaet | let me know when the uploads are done, and we're ready to kick off the rebuilds (ie, package has landed and available) | 17:19 |
| Daviey | skaet, wilco, thanks | 17:23 |
| seb128 | skaet, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/708018 | 17:33 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 708018 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ubuntu-sso-login crashed with IndexError in prompt_handle(): list index out of range (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Triaged] | 17:33 |
| seb128 | skaet, you might want to add this one to the notes | 17:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, ^ | 17:33 |
| seb128 | it's basically ubuntu-sso-client crashing on autologin accounts (or livecd) | 17:33 |
| seb128 | the u1 guys are working on it now | 17:34 |
| skaet | pitti, could you see if you can nudge getting unity available for the iso builds? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/3.4.0-0ubuntu2 | 17:38 |
| seb128 | skaet, it failed to build | 17:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ | 17:42 |
| pitti | re | 17:43 |
| seb128 | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/63367725/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.unity_3.4.0-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 17:43 |
| didrocks | oh? didn't get email this time :/ | 17:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, guess that needs the fix you commited earlier today | 17:43 |
| didrocks | argh, the glu one with the new glew :/ | 17:44 |
| didrocks | ok, let's forget about unity then, needs a glew upload for proper fix… | 17:44 |
| skaet | didrocks, ok can you please add the comments to the release notes about this? | 17:45 |
| didrocks | skaet: about the migration tool crash at start? sure | 17:46 |
| skaet | didrocks, yup. thanks! | 17:46 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, because it doesn't unlock the keyring? | 17:48 |
| pitti | seb128: happy to add that to the RNs | 17:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, because they use the login keyring but there is none of those in an autologin session | 17:51 |
| pitti | right | 17:51 |
| Daviey | pitti, Do you have LP foo to make a package build higher priority? | 17:51 |
| pitti | seb128: I wonder why it doesn't crash on the live session? do we have a casper script to disable this? | 17:51 |
| pitti | Daviey: yes | 17:51 |
| pitti | "fu" anyway :) | 17:52 |
| pitti | Daviey: which one do you need bumped? | 17:52 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, will add after didrocks is done editing | 17:52 |
| Daviey | Pici, would you might bumping https://launchpad.net/~davewalker/+archive/uec-testing/+buildjob/2238876 , it would make it easier for hggdh to test before it's uploaded to the archive. | 17:52 |
| Daviey | err, pitti | 17:52 |
| didrocks | pitti: will tell you once finished | 17:52 |
| pitti | done | 17:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, it does crash on the livecd | 17:53 |
| Daviey | pitti, thanks! | 17:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, did you try to authentificate on the live session? | 17:53 |
| pitti | seb128: not to U1 | 17:54 |
| Daviey | dammit... okay skaet - it's still failing to build, i thought we had this fixed and it is not. | 17:55 |
| didrocks | pitti: done, I'll complete on the desktop part a little later | 17:56 |
| Daviey | perhaps it would be better to ship A2 with a known broken version, taking the pressure off to get a fix in apt-get upgrade away... What are your thoughts? | 17:56 |
| pitti | didrocks: hm, I still get a "locked" message | 17:56 |
| didrocks | pitti: hum? I'm on the preview page | 17:56 |
| didrocks | (the one after saving) | 17:57 |
| pitti | ah, works now | 17:57 |
| didrocks | maybe I pong you before wikimoinsmoins finishes its saving | 17:57 |
| stgraber | Ubuntu DVD is ready for testing | 17:57 |
| skaet | Daviey, its an A2, so just document it *really* well, so folks don't waste time. | 17:58 |
| skaet | stgraber, sweet. thanks. | 17:58 |
| Daviey | skaet, ok, thanks. | 17:58 |
| ogra | Daviey, as long as it works on arm we wont complain :) | 18:16 |
| Daviey | ogra, good luck with that... let us know when we have kvm on arm :) | 18:18 |
| skaet | ogra, how are the images from last night looking? | 18:19 |
| ogra | ogra@ac100:~$ apt-cache show eucalyptus-cloud|grep Architecture: | 18:19 |
| ogra | Architecture: armel | 18:19 |
| ogra | Daviey, you mean that wouldnt work !?! | 18:20 |
| ogra | skaet, all fine | 18:20 |
| Daviey | ogra, Ohhh, sure eucalyptus works.... but you can't start instances :) | 18:20 |
| ogra | you really need to fix that !!! | 18:20 |
| ogra | *g* | 18:20 |
| Daviey | ogra, Okay, i'll port kvm to arm before i go to bed tonight :) | 18:20 |
| ogra | thanks, i'll ping you tomorrow :) | 18:21 |
| skaet | ogra, cool. Could you go to the release notes, and add the features you want highlighted for this release then. :) | 18:21 |
| * ogra will go to bed early today :) | 18:21 | |
| ogra | skaet, i went over them already, we dont have anything to highlight until unity-2d is on the images | 18:22 |
| ogra | they currently dont differ from maverick | 18:22 |
| Daviey | ogra, nn :) | 18:22 |
| ogra | heh | 18:22 |
| skaet | ogra, thanks. | 18:22 |
| ogra | A3 will be our big one :) | 18:23 |
| ogra | with lots of blogging and screenshots | 18:23 |
| * skaet hopes that all testing will be done *early* in the cycle. | 18:23 | |
| ogra | and indeed with the eucalyptus port from Daviey included by default ;) | 18:24 |
| ogra | skaet, fully agreed and i was hoping we could get it on the A2 images, but a Qt bug prevents us from it ... there is no way we ship a desktop where half the apps segfault | 18:25 |
| skaet | ogra, *agree* | 18:26 |
| ogra | unity-2d itself is ready :( | 18:27 |
| * ogra is really sad that we cant ship it yet | 18:27 | |
| Riddell | are kubuntu DVDs going to appear at some point? | 19:05 |
| stgraber | they should. I'm monitoring cdimage to check when edubuntu and kubuntu appears | 19:06 |
| stgraber | edubuntu seems to be building at the moment, kubuntu should be next | 19:06 |
| GrueMaster | skaet: Unless there is a dire need to respin, omap/omap4 image testing is done. No critical/high/medium issues. | 19:18 |
| * ogra lols about Bug 711968 | 19:23 | |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 711968 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[natty] Installer suggests "Not-Available" as computer name (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711968 | 19:23 |
| ogra | did nobody tell marc about the new empathy integration of the installer ? | 19:23 |
| GrueMaster | I don't think he's available for comment. | 19:26 |
| skaet | GrueMaster, thanks! there are reasons to respin, but its unlikely we'll be getting the fixes in time. So we'll be going with these images. | 19:27 |
| GrueMaster | Oh? What issues? | 19:27 |
| GrueMaster | Other than the ubiquity fixes (which I have tested). | 19:27 |
| skaet | GrueMaster, unity changes and eucalyptus ones, shouldn't be impacting you. | 19:29 |
| * skaet was using images in context beyond arm ;) | 19:30 | |
| GrueMaster | Nope, neither one does. Unity is in the images but won't run w/o 3D acceleration and eucalyptus isn't in the image. | 19:31 |
| skaet | stgraber, any update on the edubuntu dvds? you posting? | 19:35 |
| stgraber | skaet: oops, Edubuntu meeting ;) I guess they just showed up, weren't there 10mins ago. Adding them now. | 19:36 |
| skaet | stgraber, sweet. Thanks! | 19:36 |
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| highvoltage | anyone else available to look at Edubuntu amd64? | 20:22 |
| highvoltage | The installer window just completely dissappears for me after I enter the user details and click next | 20:23 |
| highvoltage | seems to be fine on i386 though. it's under kvm so it could perhaps just have something to do with that | 20:23 |
| skaet | highvoltage, we've got some real nastiness going on with amd64 (see: https://launchpad.net/bugs/710582). Is yours possibly related? | 20:26 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 710582 in yelp (Ubuntu Natty) (and 5 other projects) "webkit does not implement "assert" sanely (ubiquity crashes after step 'Who are you', yelp segfaults) (affects: 5) (dups: 3) (heat: 40)" [Undecided,New] | 20:26 |
| charlie-tca | skaet: updated release notes | 20:37 |
| skaet | charlie-tca, thank you! :) | 20:37 |
| highvoltage | skaet: yep, that's it | 20:38 |
| skaet | thanks highvoltage, can you add your info to the log of the bug then. | 20:39 |
| highvoltage | skaet: ok, will do | 20:40 |
| skaet | :) | 20:41 |
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| charlie-tca | skaet: I need to add wording to the workaround for the ubiquity bug. In Xubuntu, you open a terminal (shortcut does not work), then purge "ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu" | 20:56 |
| skaet | charlie-tca, go ahead. (and thank you) | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 20:57 |
| smoser | skaet, EC2 images are tested | 22:09 |
| smoser | pre-publishing is in progress | 22:09 |
| smoser | images still need to be tested on UEC, but would really be surprised to see a failure there. | 22:09 |
| skaet | smoser, cool. Thanks! | 22:13 |
| slangasek | lamont: gourd runs out of memory trying to build qemu-linaro for armel :( | 23:16 |
| slangasek | lamont: should we build qemu under qemu? | 23:16 |
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