[00:01] <skaet> ubuntu desktops is up on the iso tracker now
[00:02]  * jibel syncing ubuntu desktop
[00:39] <patrickmw> it seems that we've had success by automating the server iso tests.  has there been an initiative to automate desktop and alternate iso tests?
[00:44] <fader> patrickmw: I know it's been discussed, but it's also a harder problem as ubiquity keeps changing
[00:44] <fader> Starting with the debian installer tests would probably be easier, though
[00:46] <patrickmw> fader: is ubiquity changing because of new features or workflows?
[00:47] <fader> patrickmw: Yes :)  It's been in flux the past few releases, so any work done on automating the testing would have to be redone for the next release.  Not sure if there are a lot of changes coming in natty or not though
[00:47] <fader> patrickmw: But if you want to start attempting to do some automation I'm sure the appropriate people would be able to answer those questions :)
[00:49] <patrickmw> fader: what I'm thinking is if the framework is designed around use case templates then updating the tests for a new release could be less of a pain (vs changing dozens of individual test scripts)
[00:50] <fader> patrickmw: At a *guess* we should be able to use mago once ubiquity is fully accessible, but I don't believe it is yet
[00:50] <fader> charlie-tca: ^^ Am I right in that?
[00:51] <patrickmw> mago also has several dependencies that are not pre-installed
[00:52] <patrickmw> Driving a VM with mago doesn't seem like an option either
[00:53] <patrickmw> definitely something to think about.  I have some primitive ideas bouncing around my head, but nothing solid yet
[00:53] <fader> Hmm, the dependencies I can't speak to, though it might be something we could change (and probably worth bringing up at the next UDS, if so)
[00:53] <fader> mago should definitely work in a VM though
[00:53] <patrickmw> in a VM yes
[00:54] <patrickmw> but, host with mago controlling a guest?
[00:54] <fader> patrickmw: I'd talk to ara about mago and automation and probably ev about ubiquity and hooking into it, but neither of them are online now (and are hopefully asleep! :) )
[00:54] <patrickmw> fader: yeah true
[00:55] <fader> Hmm, you shouldn't need mago controlling a guest -- if you used mago you should be able to run it inside the guest or on a real machine, either way
[00:55] <patrickmw> fader: one of new responsibilities now is to improve Mago's usability
[00:56] <fader> Excellent :)
[01:01] <charlie-tca> oops
[01:01] <charlie-tca> fader: I don't think all of it is, but I haven't run a full accessible install for a week
[01:01] <charlie-tca> It didn't activate after the install, though
[01:02] <fader> Yeah, I don't remember seeing any discussions on the ubuntu-accessibility list, but that doesn't necessarily mean people aren't working on it
[01:02] <charlie-tca> sorry, eating
[01:02] <fader> (As that's a low traffic list anyway)
[01:02] <fader> charlie-tca: NO EAT, ONLY TEST!
[01:02] <fader> :)
[01:02] <charlie-tca> we been discussing it. I got a screen reader install to run, but when it finished, it did not say it was done
[01:03] <charlie-tca> (which leaves the visually impaired sitting a very long time before deciding to restart)
[01:03] <charlie-tca> I got people testing today... ;-)
[01:04] <fader> \o/
[01:04] <fader> (About people testing, not about the a11y bugs, obviously)
[01:04] <charlie-tca> I will be running the accessible install tomorrow, to verify the test case before I post it
[01:04] <charlie-tca> right. I was shocked too
[01:54] <skaet> ubuntu dvd's have just gone up on the iso tracker.
[02:37] <skaet> edubuntu's dvd's are up on the iso tracker now
[03:45] <nobuto> Hi all, I am testing on this case http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopLiveSession#Live%20Session%20Persistence
[03:45] <nobuto> When with <F6> and "persistent" option, casper-rw pertition is used. But when no input on gfxboot then press "try Ubuntu" in ubiquity, casper-rw pertition is NOT used.
[03:45] <nobuto> Is that bug? If so, is it already reported?
[08:07] <ara> good morning!
[09:24] <jibel> Hi all
[09:27] <ara> good morning jibel
[09:28] <jibel> Good morning ara!
[09:28] <jibel> ara, can you help with testing ?
[09:30] <ara> jibel, I was hoping to, but I don't have my spare netbook right now. I will help with VM, and will continue with HW tomorrow morning
[09:30] <kidsodateless> goodmorning to you ara and jibel
[09:34] <jibel> ara, thanks any help is welcome.
[09:34] <jibel> Good morning kidsodateless!
[09:35] <ara> I will resync my images to start with
[09:36] <jibel> Well, to start this shiny day, here is the list a totally untested images that needs some love this morning:
[09:37] <jibel> Ubuntu Studio Alternate i386
[09:37] <jibel> Mythbuntu Desktop i386
[09:37] <jibel> Edubuntu DVD amd64
[09:37] <jibel> Edubuntu DVD i386
[09:37] <jibel> Ubuntu DVD amd64
[09:37] <jibel> Ubuntu DVD i386
[09:37] <jibel> Upgrade Edubuntu amd64
[09:37] <jibel> Upgrade Edubuntu i386
[09:37] <jibel> Upgrade Ubuntu amd64
[09:37] <jibel> Upgrade Ubuntu i386
[09:37] <jibel> Upgrade Xubuntu amd64
[09:37] <jibel> Upgrade Xubuntu i386
[09:45] <jibel> anyone with a MS Windows partition could test Wubi and confirm bug 711562 ?
[09:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711562 in wubi "wubi kubuntu failed to install: phase 2 stops with: Try (hd0,0): NTFS5: (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711562
[10:15] <kidsodateless> hi guys, i'm currenly testing. why when I click the applications  on launcher I can't see any apps icon?
[10:58] <jibel> kidsodateless, testing which image on which environment (vm or real harware) ?
[11:01] <kidsodateless> jibel, in a real hardware. i'm using 20110201.1 ubuntu desktop i386
[11:06] <jibel> kidsodateless, file a bug against unity then.
[11:08] <kidsodateless> jibel: ah see, but i'm heading off, I'll make a way to test tomorrow.
[11:08] <jibel> kidsodateless, ok
[11:34] <jibel> For those freshly connected to the channel here is the list of images that are untested:
[11:34] <jibel> Edubuntu DVD amd64
[11:34] <jibel> Edubuntu DVD i386
[11:34] <jibel> Ubuntu DVD amd64
[11:34] <jibel> Ubuntu DVD i386
[11:34] <jibel> Upgrade Edubuntu amd64
[11:34] <jibel> Upgrade Edubuntu i386
[11:34] <jibel> Upgrade Xubuntu amd64
[11:34] <jibel> Upgrade Xubuntu i386
[11:34]  * jibel syncing ubuntu DVDs
[11:40] <pedro_> jibel, i can test ubuntu dvd i386, cannot test amd64 images :-/
[11:40] <pedro_> jibel, good morning btw :-)
[11:42] <jibel> pedro_, Good afternoon !
[11:44] <jibel> pedro_, cool, I'm syncing amd64 then
[11:46]  * jibel likes how zsync is able to start syncing an amd64 image from a copy of an i386 one.
[11:58] <jibel> Any tester for Wubi ?
[12:00] <jibel> New images of mythbuntu amd64 and ubuntustudio alternate amd64 are available for testing
[12:01] <davmor2> jibel: that would be where I would come in normally but have very little time sorry,  I believe that bladerunner
[12:01] <davmor2> can help though
[12:03] <jibel> davmor2, yeah, I'll ask him when he'll be online. I need a confirmation for bug 711562
[12:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711562 in wubi "wubi kubuntu failed to install: phase 2 stops with: Try (hd0,0): NTFS5: (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711562
[12:03] <jibel> this affects all the images
[12:04]  * jibel -> lunch
[12:04] <davmor2> jibel: If I get chance I'll have a look for you, but being as my boos is off and there are a bunch of stuff I need to test it might not happen
[12:37] <ara> jibel, is it expected that the 2d experience only has a small ubuntu icon (instead of the 10.10 applications / places / system)
[12:37] <ara> ?
[13:17] <jibel> ara, you mean when you login with a 'Classic Desktop' session ?
[13:37] <stgraber> highvoltage: going to test Edubuntu when you arrive at the office ?
[13:37] <stgraber> highvoltage: I'm going to do Ubuntu Alternate testing for LTSP, check if the fix I pushed two days ago fixed it
[13:40] <highvoltage> stgraber: ok great, yes I'll do so in a moment
[13:41]  * stgraber loves the new KVM box ;) Downloading at 8MB/s from cdimage !
[13:45] <davmor2> stgraber: where you at?
[13:46] <highvoltage> stgraber: shew, nice
[13:51] <stgraber> davmor2: currently I'm working remotely from Switzerland, flying back to Canada on Sunday. But the server is in a datacenter in Germany.
[13:51] <stgraber> with 100Mb/s internet and huge quota (5TB) ;) I run libvirt on it and access it remotely with NX. So I just have a remote desktop on it to start my VMs
[13:52] <davmor2> stgraber: nice
[13:54] <stgraber> cost me less than 50€ a month for the box, so it's actually cheaper than buying the hardware and connection (it's an i7 with 2x750GB and 8GB of RAM) :)
[13:55] <davmor2> stgraber: very nice see over here that would cost more to host than buy :)
[13:58]  * fader cranks up another round of syncing.
[13:58] <fader> Mornin', folks.
[13:59] <stgraber> morning fader
[13:59] <fader> stgraber: Howdy!
[13:59] <jibel> Hi fader
[13:59] <ara> jibel, yes, that's what I meant
[14:00] <fader> Hi jibel :)
[14:02] <fader> stgraber: How's Switzerland?
[14:02] <jibel> ara, I've a full menu there with application, places and system . So I think that one of us is facing a bug.
[14:02] <stgraber> fader: great, a lot warmer than Canada ;) Will be a shock flying back there on Sunday :)
[14:03] <stgraber> fader: it's actually a bit disappointing being in Switzerland in February and not seeing any snow :)
[14:04] <fader> Hehe
[14:04] <fader> stgraber: We have plenty in Boston I could send you
[14:05] <stgraber> hehe, no that's fine, they're making a good stock of it in Sherbrooke apparently, I'm sure there'll be some left when I arrive :)
[14:05] <stgraber> (schools are closed today over there because of snow and wind, so it must be quite bad ;))
[14:05] <davmor2> morning fader
[14:05] <fader> I can believe that it is
[14:05] <fader> davmor2: Hey dude
[14:16] <jibel> New images of Ubuntu Desktop i386 and AMD64 are available, time to resync.
[14:25] <patrickmw> jibel: is there a lag between the images being dropped and QA Tracker updating its "rebuilding" state?
[14:26] <jibel> patrickmw, probably a small delay because there are different systems involved why ?
[14:28] <patrickmw> jibel: just curious, I happened to refresh the build list and they didn't appear ready, only curious
[14:28] <patrickmw> jibel: it 7am, and I tend to repeat myself in the morning
[14:29] <patrickmw> jibel: oh and  its 7am
[14:40] <highvoltage> stgraber: I'm testing upgrades as well
[14:40] <highvoltage> stgraber: on upgrade it wants to remove blinken, dhcp3-client, gcompris, icedtea6-plugin, nanny, ubuntu-edu-preschool, ubuntu-edu-primary
[14:40] <highvoltage> stgraber: what's the best way to check why?
[14:46]  * highvoltage goes ahead with upgrade anyway
[14:48] <highvoltage> stgraber: is http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ right? is Edubuntu rebuilding or is the tracker out of date?
[14:49] <jibel> highvoltage, yes it is right. rebuilding all *desktop image to fix ubiquity and parted.
[14:50] <jibel> ubuntu desktop is ready and you can test edubuntu upgrades .
[14:50] <pedro_> jibel, the ubiquity fix is re the crash on selecting the language?
[14:51] <pedro_> cause i got one with the dvd image
[14:51] <highvoltage> jibel: ok
[14:51] <jibel> pedro_, ubiquity fix upon failure to contact geoip; parted fix for broken dmraid installations
[14:52] <pedro_> jibel, looks like the one i'm facing, thanks
[14:55] <jibel> The untested images at the moment are:
[14:55] <jibel> Ubuntu Desktop amd64
[14:55] <jibel> Ubuntu Desktop i386
[14:55] <jibel> Ubuntu Studio Alternate amd64
[14:55] <jibel> Upgrade Edubuntu amd64
[14:55] <jibel> Upgrade Edubuntu i386
[14:55] <jibel> Upgrade Xubuntu amd64
[14:55] <jibel> Upgrade Xubuntu i386
[14:56] <charlie-tca> I'll grab the upgrade Xubuntu i386 to start then
[14:56] <charlie-tca> power went out last night, takes a bit to get back everything again
[14:56] <pedro_> i'm syncing desktop i386
[14:57] <charlie-tca> I willl release note the VBox shutdown bug, too
[14:58] <jibel> And kubuntu desktop i386/amd64 are freshly baked and ready to test.
[14:59] <stgraber> highvoltage: dhcp3-client should be replaced by isc-dhcp-client, the others I'm not sure
[14:59] <stgraber> highvoltage: one way of doing it would be to let it remove them, noting which ones get removed, then try to install them manually ;)
[15:02] <highvoltage> stgraber: that's the plan! I was wondering if there was a more preferred way
[15:03] <highvoltage> stgraber: I filed a bug for that and linked on the tracker so that we don't forget about it
[15:03] <stgraber> highvoltage: you could probably run apt in very very verbose mode and try to guess why it's doing that, but considering the number of packages involved, it's easier to just debug it post-upgrade
[15:04]  * jibel running kubuntu tests
[15:05] <stgraber> highvoltage: what's weird is that you get some ubuntu-edu-* packages removed, but these shouldn't have any Depends, they should only have Recommends
[15:05] <stgraber> highvoltage: so I don't really see how they'd conflict with something and get removed
[15:09] <stgraber> highvoltage: LTSP on Ubuntu Alternate looks good, the d-i component seems to work fine this time ;) Hopefully the rest should work just as well as the ltsp-build-client I tested on Monday
[15:19] <charlie-tca> jibel: was the mythbuntu shutdown bug on a live desktop?
[15:20] <jibel> charlie-tca, live and not live.
[15:20] <charlie-tca> Thanks. same bug as fader, then
[15:21] <jibel> charlie-tca, I tihnk so, but since I don't no the inner details of mythbuntu and xfce I preferred to file a new one.
[15:21] <highvoltage> stgraber: great
[15:21] <charlie-tca> no problem. I know them too well
[15:22] <charlie-tca> I'm duping the bugs. We got the errors notice fixed, but are still working this logout thing
[15:27] <jibel> charlie-tca,  thanks!
[15:29] <stgraber> highvoltage: ltsp installs fine but doesn't boot, can't even debug as the client VM seems to panic (break=top doesn't work ...)
[15:30] <stgraber> highvoltage: initial dhcp works, tftp seems to work (initrd is huge ... 14MB), then I get stuck there
[15:32] <highvoltage> stgraber: can you file a bug so that we can add that to the release notes fwiw?
[15:33] <stgraber> highvoltage: I'm still trying to figure out if that's a LTSP bug or a VM bug
[15:33] <stgraber> highvoltage: I didn't have the issue when testing yesterday on my laptop
[15:38] <stgraber> highvoltage: ok, found the issue. It's a kvm/libvirt/gpxe bug apparently.
[15:39] <stgraber> highvoltage: the PXE loader was trying to load the .nbi image but couldn't interpret it properly. I updated the DHCP config to always return pxelinux.0 and it works fine now
[15:40] <stgraber> I guess my copy of gpxe on my laptop does it differently and either handles the .nbi properly or used pxelinux instead
[15:40] <highvoltage> ok
[15:41] <stgraber> argh, right, there's still one bug ... nbd-client gets stuck when trying to probe for a new version, blocking ldm ... I'm suspecting the new nbd-client to be the cause of that
[15:42] <stgraber> so we won't have a working ltsp for alpha-2 unless you remove /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/I01-nbd-checkupdate and update the image
[15:43] <stgraber> I guess I should flag that package somehow so people don't merge it until we've tested it ;) I guess LTSP is probably the only user of nbd and so it'd be nice to make sure it still works ;)
[15:59] <stgraber> highvoltage: release noted LTSP on both Edubuntu and Ubuntu Alternate. We'll need a fix in both nbd-client and gnome-session to have it working.
[16:02] <skaet> thanks stgraber :)
[16:03] <skaet> is there a bug number?
[16:03] <stgraber> not yet but there will be soon
[16:11] <jibel> xubuntu i386/amd64 upgrade are still untested. Anyone ?
[16:11] <jibel> charlie-tca, are you testing xubuntu i386 upgrade ?
[16:11] <charlie-tca> testing now. Got 10.10 installed and starting the upgrade
[16:12] <charlie-tca> as soon as my syncs finish, I will run amd64 in VBox-ose
[16:12] <jibel> charlie-tca, Great! set the status of the testcase to 'started' please.
[16:12] <charlie-tca> by the way, jibel, I still can't get the puel edition to work
[16:12] <charlie-tca> I will mark them
[16:15]  * jibel installing xubuntu 10.10 amd64
[16:16] <charlie-tca> thanks
[16:56] <fader> Looks like new mythbuntu images are up... syncing
[17:02] <jibel> xubuntu desktop as well
[17:02] <fader> Hmm, myth amd64 seems to be crashing like xubuntu was for me last night
[17:03] <jibel> expect ubuntu dvd, edubuntu dvd, and kubuntu dvd soon
[17:03]  * pedro_ syncing again
[17:03] <pedro_> ok
[17:04] <jibel> fader, the logout crash ?
[17:04] <fader> Yuck, ubiquity is crashing but not leaving a crash dump :(
[17:04] <fader> jibel: No, ubiquity crashing
[17:04] <fader> I haven't tried to log out yet
[17:04] <jibel> shutdown/reboot I meant.
[17:05] <fader> Yeah.  That seems to work at least :)
[17:05] <jibel> fader, bug 710582 ?
[17:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 710582 in yelp (Ubuntu Natty) (and 5 other projects) "webkit does not implement "assert" sanely (ubiquity crashes after step 'Who are you', yelp segfaults) (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 30)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710582
[17:06] <fader> jibel: Looks like it... I am about to try running ubiquity from a terminal to see if that gives any useful output, but the behavior is the same
[17:07] <jibel> fader, I've got the same problem on ubuntu desktop amd64, and no crash file.
[17:08] <fader> jibel: Yeah, looking through that bug I'm pretty confident it's the same one
[17:08] <pedro_> did anybody tried the OEM install on Ubuntu desktop image?
[17:08] <skaet> jibel,  looks like we've got fixes queued up for https://launchpad.net/bugs/708812, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/711964,  so we're going to go ahead with respinning ubuntu's desktop.
[17:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 708812 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in CompOption::value() (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 28)" [High,Fix released]
[17:08] <pedro_> the oem-config-prepare icon is not being shown there
[17:08] <skaet> should improve the user experience and may help with some others.
[17:09] <pedro_> could anybody confirm ?
[17:09] <skaet> pedro_,  there's a comment in the release notes on OEM config... but can't remember who made it.
[17:09] <skaet> log should have it.
[17:10] <fader> pedro_: If you can't find it in the release notes, let me know and I will attempt to reproduce it
[17:12] <jibel> skaet, Okay. What's the status for the ubiquity crash on amd64 ? (bug 710582)
[17:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 710582 in yelp (Ubuntu Natty) (and 5 other projects) "webkit does not implement "assert" sanely (ubiquity crashes after step 'Who are you', yelp segfaults) (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 30)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710582
[17:14]  * skaet checking
[17:20] <pedro_> skaet, fader, the OEM config part at the release notes is regarding a crash when the network isn't  configured
[17:20] <pedro_> fader, could you please try to confirm the icon thing ?
[17:20] <fader> pedro_: Cool, I won't bother with it then.  Thanks :)
[17:20] <fader> Ah
[17:20] <fader> Heh
[17:20] <fader> pedro_: Sure, will do... amd64 or i386?
[17:20] <pedro_> it's different :-P
[17:21] <pedro_> fader, i386 please
[17:22] <fader> jibel: As expected, the ubiquity crash is only affecting the amd64 mythbuntu image
[17:22] <fader> FYI
[17:26] <fader> Argh, I wish virtualbox windows would stay on the virtual desktop where I put them
[17:26] <fader> Every time a VM display mode changes, it jumps to the current desktop
[17:27] <jibel> fader, that's bug 707930
[17:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 707930 in compiz (Ubuntu) "virtualbox window suddenly moves to another virtual desktop (affects: 1) (heat: 493)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/707930
[17:27] <fader> Hehe
[17:27] <jibel> :-)
[17:28] <fader> Thanks jibel :)
[17:28] <fader> I was just complaining and was too lazy to look for a bug :)
[17:40] <fader> jibel: I notice that you filed a bunch of mythbuntu bugs recently... did you happen to file one about ubiquity no longer prompting for the myth role on install?
[17:40] <fader> (i.e. 'backend', 'frontend', etc.)
[17:40] <fader> I looked in lp but didn't see one... I'll file it if you haven't already
[17:40] <jibel> fader, nope
[17:41] <fader> Cool
[17:41] <jibel> fader, it prompted me the first time I launched myth frontend.
[17:41] <fader> pedro_: I can't reproduce your bug... I have the 'prepare for shipping' icon on the desktop
[17:42] <fader> jibel: Weird.  I didn't get that, but maybe it's because of bug 711772
[17:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711772 in mythbuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "cannot setup mythbuntu backend - Unable to connect to the database (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711772
[17:42] <fader> Though it still seems like weird behavior compared to the past... you should be able to install just a frontend or just a backend system
[17:43] <jibel> fader, indeed, looking quickly at the mysql log, it seems that there is a syntax error, at the creation of the database, that may explain the other bugs.
[17:44] <fader> jibel: I think they're two separate bugs though... previously the behavior was to prompt the user for the role at install time.  So if you installed a frontend-only system, you would not get mysql server installed
[17:44] <fader> (Among other things)
[17:45] <pedro_> fader, ok thanks. will delete the image it might be something corrupted in my install then
[17:46] <fader> pedro_: No problem.  I did it in virtualbox if that makes a difference to you
[17:49] <pedro_> not really, i'm using virtualbox as well
[17:49] <charlie-tca> syncing the xubuntu desktop images again; apparently, I started with an older image
[17:52] <skaet> jibel, looks like we won't be spinning for the updated ubiquity,  its got a dependency with glew, and will take some time to untangle and get right, looks like.
[17:52] <skaet> s/ubiquity/unity/  sigh
[17:53]  * skaet has a crosswire on those two package names - sorry.
[17:54] <jibel> skaet, no problem I've a translator when there's a crosswire on package names ;-)
[17:54] <jibel> skaet, so we are waiting for DVDs and is that the last respin ?
[17:55] <skaet> jibel,  there is going to be a respin on the UEC images coming down
[17:55] <skaet> as soon as the uploads are in.
[17:56] <jibel> skaet, good.
[17:56] <skaet> but that's all I'm aware of at this point, unless we see 710582 getting fixed.
[17:57] <stgraber> Ubuntu DVD is ready for testing
[18:00] <skaet> jibel,  looks like UEC images won't get updated,  build problems there too.  *sigh*
[18:00] <skaet> ah well, at least you have some new shiny DVD images to play with. ;)
[18:00] <jibel> ugh :/
[18:00] <jibel> Great syncing
[18:01] <jibel> To all, DVDs are available, sync and go !
[18:01] <pedro_> syncing already ;-)
[18:28] <jibel> charlie-tca, will you test xubuntu i386 (again) ?
[18:28] <charlie-tca> yup
[18:28] <charlie-tca> syncing them
[18:29] <jibel> charlie-tca, Thanks !
[18:29] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[18:47]  * pedro_ testing ubuntu dvd i386
[19:08] <marjo> GrueMaster: will you be able to test Ubuntu ARM Preinstalled omap3?
[19:08] <GrueMaster> Already have.
[19:09] <marjo> GrueMaster: iso tracker not updated?
[19:09] <marjo> with your results?
[19:09] <GrueMaster> tracker is giving me issues.
[19:09] <marjo> GrueMaster: ah ok
[19:09] <GrueMaster> I click update, and it deletes my results.
[19:09] <marjo> oops
[19:10] <marjo> jibel, stgraber: any suggestions for GrueMaster?
[19:10] <marjo> jibel: can you mark it for him?
[19:10] <marjo> please?
[19:10] <GrueMaster> I've got it marked now.
[19:10] <GrueMaster> May be a firefox issue.
[19:11] <stgraber> hmm, weird, it's usually close to impossible to remove a result from the tracker ;)
[19:11] <stgraber> might be some weird caching issue
[19:11] <marjo> GrueMaster: oh ok; thx
[19:11] <marjo> stgraber: ack
[19:12] <GrueMaster> I'm still testing omap3/omap4 images, but no show stoppers.  I will update after each bug I find, so it (hopefully) stays current.
[19:12] <marjo> anybody available for Ubuntu DVD amd64 (20110202.1) ?
[19:12] <marjo> GrueMaster: thx much
[19:13] <kamusin> I have downloaded latest natty iso for i386 and when I selected install to hard disk, after 10 seconds (around) it crashes :(, this is not reproducible if you chose try ubuntu in live mode
[19:13] <marjo> charlie-tca: can you please mark Xubuntu Desktop i386 as "started" if that's the case?
[19:13] <charlie-tca> Oh, that's the one still syncing here.
[19:14] <marjo> charlie-tca: ack
[19:14] <charlie-tca> yes, it gets slower ...
[19:15] <patrickmw> i could use some guidance reporting a bug.  I've noticed that when the installer runs without an internet connection the system hangs after clicking reboot now.  would I report this as an ubiquity bug?
[19:33] <charlie-tca> Okay, need someone else to try the xubuntu desktop 64 install. Everytime I get through the installer in the live environment, I get no slideshow. I get a spinner
[19:33] <charlie-tca> and nothing happens. Clicking anything in the menu or launcher panel stops the spinner
[19:33] <charlie-tca> VBox-ose 4.0
[19:36] <stgraber> Edubuntu DVDs are ready for testing !
[19:39] <skaet> :)
[19:40] <charlie-tca> patrickmw: sounds like ubiquity, yes.
[19:46] <patrickmw> thank you, charlie-tca
[19:53] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu 386 desktop install works. Xubuntu 64 desktop install fails completely
[19:54] <charlie-tca> skaet, jibel : what ever the last update was, Xubuntu 64 fails completely now. It won't install after completing all the screens.
[19:56] <skaet> charlie-tca, ack.  :(
[19:58]  * skaet looking to see if she can find a bug, so charlie-tca can cross check if its same as other symptoms already seen on amd64
[20:10] <skaet> charlie-tca, is your bug the same as: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/710582
[20:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 710582 in yelp (Ubuntu Natty) (and 5 other projects) "webkit does not implement "assert" sanely (ubiquity crashes after step 'Who are you', yelp segfaults) (affects: 4) (dups: 2) (heat: 32)" [Undecided,New]
[20:10] <charlie-tca> looking
[20:10] <skaet> or something different?
[20:11] <charlie-tca> looks like it might be, I filed it as bug 712093
[20:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 712093 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu Desktop 64 fails to install from live desktop (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712093
[20:11] <charlie-tca> It is a silent fail, so it is possible
[20:12] <charlie-tca> looks like a good bet it is the same.
[20:14] <skaet> charlie-tca, thanks.
[20:14] <charlie-tca> Thank you, skaet. The syslog matches
[20:22] <jibel> marjo, I'm on mad64 dvd,
[20:23] <jibel> amd64 not mad :-)
[20:23] <marjo> jibel: thx, but don't be mad!
[20:23] <jibel> stgraber, highvoltage, can you test edubuntu dvds ?
[20:24] <highvoltage> jibel: doing that right now. i386 seems ok
[20:24] <jibel> highvoltage, Great, thanks !
[20:24] <highvoltage> jibel: I'll need someone else to confirm that amd64 is broken, I'm testing it under kvm but the installer window just disappears after I fill in the user details
[20:24] <charlie-tca> I will try the 64-bit install again with the workaround in the release notes
[20:25] <charlie-tca> highvoltage: bug 710582
[20:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 710582 in yelp (Ubuntu Natty) (and 5 other projects) "webkit does not implement "assert" sanely (ubiquity crashes after step 'Who are you', yelp segfaults) (affects: 5) (dups: 3) (heat: 40)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710582
[20:25] <jibel> highvoltage, that's the webkit but
[20:25] <jibel> *bug
[20:25] <highvoltage> ah, we should note that explicitely in the edubuntu release notes as well then :)
[20:25] <charlie-tca> We should have broken mythbuntu too
[20:26] <jibel> All upgrade testcases done \o/
[20:26] <jibel> charlie-tca, yes it is
[20:31] <bdmurray> jibel, stgraber: it seems to me that Ubuntu QA Website isn't tagging bugs iso-testing since mid January
[20:37] <jibel> bdmurray,  pfff :/
[20:37] <jibel> bdmurray, I'll have a look.
[20:37] <marjo> jibel: thx
[20:37] <jibel> bdmurray, it looks like the time at which sone server have upgraded to lucid, isn"t it ?
[20:37] <bdmurray> jibel: great thanks!  I just happened to notice it by chance - it seems like we should monitor it somehow. re lucid: that might be
[20:37] <stgraber> bdmurray: probably the script died a while ago. I used to be restarting/fixing it before but lost access to the box on Lucid's release week ...
[20:37] <stgraber> bdmurray: will fix it when I get access again
[20:38] <charlie-tca> xubuntu 386 desktop installed good
[20:42] <marjo> charliet-tca: thx
[20:52] <jibel> bdmurray, the job is running, there's no output so I don't know if it's updating something. I'll let it run for a while and we'll see.
[20:54] <bdmurray> jibel: okay, I'll keep an eye out
[20:56] <jibel> bdmurray, you can keep your eye in, the job failed
[21:01] <bdmurray> jibel: Does it look fixable?  I'd be happy to do it
[21:10] <skaet> jibel, can you confirm that https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rekonq/+bug/711513 is fixed on AMD64 with the recent images?  or is it still a problem that needs documentation.
[21:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711513 in rekonq (Ubuntu) "rekonq crashed with SIGSEGV on amd64 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[21:13] <jibel> skaet, sure, fixing the tracker, reporting a crash in software-center and doing that right after :-)
[21:14] <skaet> jibel,  :)  thank you!
[21:14] <marjo> jibel: watch out for skaet (aka taskmaster/release manager)
[21:20] <fader> Is anybody working on edubuntu amd64 at the moment?  If not I'll hit it once it syncs
[21:21] <jibel> skaet, I confirm that the recent image does *not* fix the problem
[21:29] <highvoltage> fader: please do!
[21:29] <fader> highvoltage: Heh, just saw that you're doing them.  I'll do an install to double-check since that never hurts :)
[21:30] <fader> Might as well since I sync'd the DVD
[21:32] <highvoltage> fader: ok, it seems like you will just need to remove the ubiquity-slideshow-edubuntu package to work around bug 710582
[21:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 710582 in yelp (Ubuntu Natty) (and 5 other projects) "ubiquity crashes on amd64 architecture. was: webkit does not implement "assert" sanely (ubiquity crashes after step 'Who are you', yelp segfaults) (affects: 5) (dups: 3) (heat: 40)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710582
[21:33] <fader> highvoltage: Hmm, yeah I've seen that bug multiple times on different amd64 images.
[21:33] <fader> But it seems like if we're removing a package it's not a valid ISO test...
[21:47] <charlie-tca> jibel: got the 64bit install to work by removing "ubiquity-slideshow-xubuntu"
[21:48] <jibel> charlie-tca, okay that's a great workaround but that doesn't mean that the testcase pass.
[21:51] <skaet> jibel,  thanks for confirming,  will add it to the release note list.
[21:51] <jibel> marjo, bdmurray, the tagging job is back to work.
[21:52] <marjo> jibel: thx much
[21:55] <bdmurray> jibel: okay, I guess there'll be some bugs to review
[22:06] <charlie-tca> jibel: why not? It completes the installation completely with the release notes workaround. If it failed, the image needs to be fixed for the release?
[22:07] <highvoltage> fader: sorry, of course you have!
[22:08] <fader> highvoltage: No need for sorries :)  I'm just grumbling about that bug.
[22:08] <jibel> charlie-tca, The testcase doesn't state that you can remove a package to complete the installation. it makes the it invalid.
[22:10] <charlie-tca> Then we have no 64bit alpha2 images?
[22:11] <charlie-tca> wait
[22:11] <highvoltage> well, at least not desktpo ones
[22:11] <charlie-tca> I don't have a valid test case for this now. With Xfce4.8, nothing is right
[22:11] <jibel> charlie-tca, I don't know, I'm just QA not the release manager.
[22:14] <marjo> skaet: ^^^
[22:14]  * charlie-tca adds the xubuntu test cases to his list of things to fix
[22:15]  * skaet looking up some Xfce4.8 refs she saw to see if same.
[22:15] <jibel> argh, live session amd64 fails. Hard lock :(((
[22:15] <jibel> marjo, can you test with your eeepc ?
[22:26] <hggdh> charlie-tca: you remember the bug # -- install with encrypted disk, when entering the passphrase the prompt is redisplayed char per char?
[22:27] <charlie-tca> let me look for it
[22:27]  * hggdh is trying to search LP, but getting timeouts
[22:30] <charlie-tca> searching...
[22:31] <charlie-tca> I don't have the number here
[22:32] <charlie-tca> bug 566818?
[22:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 566818 in plymouth (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "[Lucid] cryptsetup passphrase prompt during boot: every character typed repeats the prompt (affects: 17) (dups: 3) (heat: 103)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/566818
[22:33] <hggdh> charlie-tca: perfect, thank you very much!
[22:33] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[22:55] <skaet> jibel, all - Help please,  when tagging a bug as iso-testing,  could you make sure that its marked against natty release, so I can find them?   Have been working through the iso tracker and finding some that weren't.
[22:55]  * skaet marking them as I find them, but afraid she'll miss some.
[23:13] <hggdh> skaet: roger wilco
[23:14] <skaet> thanks hggdh.  :)
[23:20] <patrickmw> can some one with ltsp testing experience assist me.  The ltsp server and my test vm can ping each other.  I have updated /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf to account for my subnet config.  The thin client can not connect (unable to connect.)  Maybe some one can push me in the right direction
[23:21] <grunthus> Hi, this may be an obvious question, relating to testdrive...
[23:21] <grunthus> I'm trying to learn packaging, from MOTU guides. It is suggested to use testdrive for latest dev ISOs
[23:21] <grunthus> Problem is when I install a system (Natty) via testdrive,
[23:22] <grunthus> it doesn't persist in the virtual machine after reboot.
[23:22] <grunthus> patrickmw: sorry to cut across you there, didn't see your post!
[23:22] <patrickmw> grunthus, np, but i think i can help
[23:23] <patrickmw> grunthus, are you using amd64?
[23:23] <stgraber> patrickmw: is that ltsp test for alpha-2 testing ?
[23:23] <grunthus> patrickmw: yes
[23:23] <stgraber> patrickmw: if so, it's already release noted that it won't work
[23:23] <patrickmw> grunthus, there is a bug
[23:24] <grunthus> Ah.
[23:24] <patrickmw> bug 683260
[23:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 683260 in casper (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "persistence doesn't work on liveusb (affects: 12) (dups: 2) (heat: 66)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683260
[23:25] <patrickmw> stgraber, i looked, i must've missed it
[23:25] <patrickmw> stgraber, thanks
[23:26] <grunthus> Hmmm. patrickmw, I wonder if that bug will affect the testdrive, which is a virtualiser, instead of a flashdrive?
[23:27] <patrickmw> grunthus, ive had the same thing happen with vbox.
[23:28] <grunthus> OK. Perhaps I should leave testdrive and just set up a VM in the traditional way.
[23:28] <grunthus> patrickmw: I'll grab the development ISO of Natty.
[23:28] <patrickmw> grunthus: cool
[23:29] <grunthus> Thanks for help
[23:29] <patrickmw> yw, grunthus  :)