[02:34] <stone_> hi
[02:44] <stone_> i have problem with ubuntu one ,when ubuntuone first release beta,i upload files,now i use ubuntu 10.10,when i login my account now it is empty,nothing i found ,what i can do ,contact canonical???
[02:45] <stone_> hello
[02:48] <stone_> hello?
[09:36] <rye> hi CardinalFang, what's the usual troubleshooting process for Ubuntu One Music (android) - alogcat debug?
[09:36] <rye> anybody here has Motorola Droid 2 with Ubuntu One Music Streaming app
[09:36] <rye> ?
[09:40] <duanedesign> <.<  >,>
[09:54] <JamesTait> Happy Wednesday folks!
[12:19] <snpresent> hello,is there anybodyhere?
[12:32] <snpresent> hello
[12:43] <snpresent> hello there
[12:45] <CardinalFang> rye, yes, "adb logcat" with SDK, or mail log from "aLogcat" app.
[12:47] <rye> CardinalFang, ok, it turned out there was a concurrent thread so the user already got the response, you can delete that message :)
[13:17] <CardinalFang> "Sorry, Bug Report Tool closed unexpectedly.\n...you can help to improve the application by reporting the problem."
[13:27] <rye> :-D
[13:33] <ralsina> good morning everyone
[13:34] <ralsina> sorry about the late chackin, my bank has decided I can't deposit checks when they are closed anymore.
[13:51] <ralsina> alecu CardinalFang dobey nessita thisfred vds standup in 10'
[13:52] <thisfred> yepyep
[13:52] <ralsina> mandel's not showing because of pain & drugs
[13:58] <nessita> ack
[13:58] <CardinalFang> me
[13:58] <ralsina> CardinalFang: early!
[13:58] <ralsina> me
[13:59] <vds> me
[13:59] <thisfred> me
[14:00] <nessita> me
[14:00] <alecu> me
[14:01] <ralsina> and dobey is late, so... CardinalFang please?
[14:01] <CardinalFang> DONE: Tracked down weird bug caused by U1 offline-db and middleware, and changed desktopcouch to avoid it.  Proposed fix for bug #711208.
[14:01] <CardinalFang> TODO: Release and package desktopcouch.  Finally work for Web&Mobile.
[14:01] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: None
[14:01] <CardinalFang> ralsina, por favor
[14:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711208 in ubuntuone-servers (and 1 other project) "desktopcouch-service doesn't like UbuntuOne-API error pages (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711208
[14:01] <ralsina> DONE: reviews, did my canonicaladmin work, more research for sprint, team leads call, other calls.
[14:01] <ralsina> TODO: reviews, management stuff, sprint planning, someday actual coding ;-)
[14:01] <ralsina> BLOCKED: no
[14:01] <ralsina> LOVE: PyQt
[14:01] <ralsina> HATES: Not coding PyQt
[14:02] <ralsina> vds!
[14:02] <vds> DONE: eighth branch for #701029 landed ninth started
[14:02] <vds> TODO: url testing now
[14:02] <vds> BLOCKED: again nope, but I will need DAL to support uploading of files soon
[14:02] <vds> thisfred, please
[14:02] <thisfred> DONE: landed branch that adds counts to messages and updates to notifications | started mock test branch
[14:02] <thisfred> TODO: finish and land mock test branch | start hooking up messages
[14:02] <thisfred> BLOCKED: no
[14:02] <thisfred> nessita!
[14:02] <nessita> DONE: Split epic shares-subscription branch into smaller branches (already proposed 3 for review, I need reviews!). Started adding dbus methods to syncdaemon to manage shares subscription. Could not do the IRL testing due to service outage and later got stuck due to syncdaemon weirdness/bugs. Got also problems when building dbus-related tests, due to bug #711470.
[14:02] <nessita> TODO: really, finish dbus branch for bug #708335 and do some IRL testing, please.
[14:02] <nessita> BLOCKED: apparently today I'm ok, but yesterday got several blocks (already listed on DONE).
[14:02] <nessita> HATE: delays due to debugging of weird behaviors.
[14:02] <nessita> NEXT: alecu
[14:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711470 in ubuntuone-client "u1trial is (somehow) using the real SD DBus service (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711470
[14:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 708335 in ubuntuone-client "Add subscription capabilities to shares (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/708335
[14:02] <alecu> DONE: more notifications discussion, half way thru a big branch to rate limit and make everybody happy.
[14:02] <alecu> TODO: finish said branch, work on session logout blocking
[14:02] <alecu> BLOCKED: no
[14:02] <alecu> NEXT: dobey
[14:03] <ralsina> nessita: I'll do your reviews
[14:03] <ralsina> dobey will appear eventually. I really am going to call him at standup-10'
[14:03] <ralsina> any comments, things where you need help, etc?
[14:03] <alecu> nessita, regarding bug 711470...
[14:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711470 in ubuntuone-client "u1trial is (somehow) using the real SD DBus service (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711470
[14:04] <nessita> alecu: is fixed
[14:04] <alecu> nessita, how so?
[14:04] <nessita> alecu: but go ahead :-)
[14:04] <nessita> alecu: dobey added a branch late yesterday
[14:04] <nessita> DbusTwistedTestCase in test_dbus was not inheriting from DbusTestCase
[14:04] <alecu> ah, ok.
[14:04] <alecu> good to know.
[14:04] <nessita> but it took 2 to 3 hours of my life away :-)
[14:05] <nessita> I was struggling so much with some tests, until v-erterok made me notice the real SD was being used :-(
[14:05] <nessita> aaaanyways
[14:05] <ralsina> ouch
[14:05] <nessita> ralsina: what's with the API work?
[14:06] <ralsina> nessita: if you are done with the urgent stuff, then we can talk with vds, CardinalFang and thisfred to see what's still to be done
[14:06] <dobey> hi
[14:06]  * ralsina makes tick-tock noises in dobey's direction ;-)
[14:07] <nessita> ralsina: I'm not done, but wanted to know how that is going
[14:07] <ralsina> nessita: we can talk about it then.
[14:07] <dobey> λ DONE: bug 711452, bug 711462, bug 711470
[14:07] <dobey> λ TODO: finish bug 673012, evaluate SRUs for maverick
[14:07] <dobey> λ BLCK: None.
[14:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711452 in ubuntuone-client "SyncDaemon-1.0.gir not usable from C (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711452
[14:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711462 in ubuntuone-client "libsyncdaemon needs a Vala .vapi binding (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711462
[14:07] <nessita> ralsina, alecu, vds, dobey, CardinalFang, thisfred: let's schedule a talk to get us up to date with API works?
[14:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 711470 in ubuntuone-client "u1trial is (somehow) using the real SD DBus service (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711470
[14:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 673012 in desktopcouch (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Async monitoring of _changes (affects: 1) (heat: 39)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673012
[14:08] <ralsina> nessita: it's not really done with a fixed goal, just "do as much as you can in this time slot" so it's going well by definition. You just need to know where you start the job :-)
[14:08] <thisfred> sure
[14:08] <nessita> right
[14:08] <ralsina> nessita alecu vds thisfred CardinalFang: sure
[14:08] <nessita> let's have a talk in 50 minutes?
[14:08] <nessita> that would be 15 UTC
[14:08] <vds> nessita, +1
[14:08] <ralsina> dobey has been doing other stuff and is now on shotwell so he's excused
[14:08] <ralsina> +1 for 50 minutes
[14:08] <nessita> ah ok
[14:09] <ralsina> We need a timezone bot
[14:09] <dobey> i did some work on the glib async thing
[14:09] <nessita> ralsina: 12 ART
[14:09] <ralsina> That receives "in 40 minutes" and says the UTC time :-)
[14:09] <ralsina> nessita: cool
[14:09] <alecu> 50': ack
[14:10] <dobey> but it's not working right, and i realized it has some other issues. and it is probably better to do the polling :(
[14:12] <dobey> i could use some reviews for https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/libsd-vapi/+merge/48238 though
[14:12] <dobey> it certainly adds to the API story :)
[14:12] <karni> hi everyone
[14:13] <ralsina> dobey: I'll check it but my Vala is unexistant
[14:13] <dobey> ralsina: not really much vala in it (just a simple test to ensure stuff will build with the generated .vapi)
[14:13] <ralsina> dobey: ok
[14:16] <ralsina> eom?
[14:16] <nessita> eom!
[14:16] <dobey> thisfred: is bug 675557 fixed then, since we updated to 0.8?
[14:16] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 675557 in desktopcouch (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Incorrect encoding of slashes in paths (affects: 1) (heat: 42)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/675557
[14:17] <thisfred> dobey, not sure, I thought it was fixed in 0.8 but saw some evidence since that it might not have been
[14:26] <alecu> dobey, branch approved.
[14:27] <nessita> ralsina: my reviews are, in order (each one has prerequisite the former): https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-client/share-autosubscribe/+merge/48155
[14:27] <nessita> https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-client/add
[14:27] <nessita> https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-client/share-subscription-ops/+merge/48170
[14:27] <ralsina> nessita: will check them in 5'
[14:27] <nessita> the second one got messed up, proper link is https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-client/add-subscribed-to-shares/+merge/48166
[14:27] <nessita> thanks!
[14:28] <alecu> dobey, you might want to know that on maverick that branch fails with: "configure: error: gobject-introspection is required to generate a vapi", even though the gobject-introspection package is fully updated
[14:28] <alecu> dobey, but no problems on natty, so I've approved.
[14:29] <dobey> alecu: you are missing something required for the gobject-introspection stuff to build
[14:33] <dobey> maybe i should change that to not be an ERROR; not sure
[14:36] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[14:37] <ralsina> dobey: this is pretty much natty-only at least when it comes to shotwell
[14:37] <ralsina> dobey: but the message is a bit confusing since it doesn't say what is missing
[14:38] <dobey> yeah, it doesn't know what's missing, it just knows that GOBJECT_INTROSPECTION_CHECK failed
[14:38] <ralsina> rephrasing: you are doing it so you can do the shotwell plugin, and that's for natty. It would be neat if it worked on other versions, but that's not really important right now unless it's very easy to fix.
[14:38] <dobey> it works on other versions
[14:38] <ralsina> dobey: it just has some mistery dependency?
[14:39]  * ralsina is trying to understand the problem, really
[14:39] <dobey> no
[14:39] <ralsina> BTW, approved it because it Works For Me (TM)
[14:39] <dobey> hrmm, well i guess it won't build on lucid as is there
[14:53] <ralsina> nessita: reviews will start after mumble because I have 350MB of nightlies (yay!)
[14:53] <nessita> no problem
[14:57] <alecu> anybody can help testing mumble?
[15:01] <ralsina> alecu: sure
[15:02] <ralsina> nessita alecu thisfred vds mumble!
[15:02] <alecu> ralsina, we are starting right now, aren't we?
[15:02] <thisfred> uh ok
[15:02] <nessita> ralsina: we're there! :-)
[15:02]  * thisfred goes looking for headphones
[15:02] <nessita> ralsina:  CardinalFang too?
[15:03] <ralsina> Yes
[15:03] <ralsina> CardinalFang: mumble!
[15:04] <ralsina> vds mumble ping?
[15:05] <dobey> hmm
[15:06] <vds> ralsina, starting it up
[15:07] <ralsina> dobey: you are welcome too, of course :-)
[15:07] <ralsina> dobey: I just suspect you'll be terribly bored by it ;-)
[15:07] <dobey> is it going to be long?
[15:07] <ralsina> who knows. I hope not.
[15:29] <thisfred> alecu, (mock) testing for messaging done, now working on notification. It's going to be pretty stupid (and brittle) but it will ensure 100% coverage of the linux specific code.
[15:43] <dobey> sigh. vala is being dumb. :(
[15:50] <ralsina> nessita: with your first branch I am getting u1trial crashes :-(
[15:50] <nessita> ralsina: such as?
[15:50] <ralsina> apport popped telling me u1trial had crashed, I clicked report bug and... nothing.
[15:51] <ralsina> I may have broken my natty machine finally?
[15:51] <nessita> dobey: help? ^
[15:52] <ralsina> now zeitgeist-datahab crashed. I think I will restart it and try again, just in case.
[15:52] <ralsina> datahub*
[15:53] <dobey> hmm
[15:53] <dobey> no idea
[15:53] <ralsina> dobey: I'll try a couple of things and see if I can get some info or repeat the crash
[15:54] <dobey> ralsina: there is probably something wrong with your python installation
[15:55] <ralsina> dobey: I don't see how that could be, but I suppose it's possible.
[15:56] <dobey> well, it explains multiple python things "crashing" around the same time :)
[16:01] <ralsina> dobey: yes it does, it's just that I never touched the python here :-)
[16:01] <ralsina> dobey: the intltool complaining about mismatched quotes is normal, right?
[16:02] <ralsina> Hey, unity-2d has more things in the launcher now.
[16:04] <ralsina> no crashes so far. It may have been OOM killer.
[16:05] <ralsina> spoke too soon. At least apport seems to be working right
[16:05] <ralsina> "The problem cannot be reported: this is not a genuine Ubuntu package"
[16:05] <ralsina> WTF
[16:05] <dobey> well apt-get upgrade might have doen something or failed
[16:06] <dobey> and yeah the mismatched quotes isn't a big problem or fatal
[16:07] <ralsina> weirder: the tests are green anyway
[16:34] <thisfred> alecu:  https://code.launchpad.net/~thisfred/ubuntuone-client/mocky-horror-picture-show/+merge/48339
[16:38] <nessita> lunchtime!!!
[16:41] <ralsina> dobey ping: ubuntuone-client is not building
[16:42] <ralsina> dobey: it's the new vala stuff in lucid and also natty
[16:46] <alecu> thisfred, lovely! reviewing.
[16:47] <alecu> thisfred, remember the "notification" that was returned by show_notification and used by update_notification... are you going to do that change in a further branch?
[16:47] <alecu> thisfred, oh, it's already there?
[16:51] <duanedesign> conflicts that occur when a user has only one computer on his U1 account could be the file changing between the time the metadata syncs and the content syncs?
[16:57] <rye> facundobatista, ^
[16:58] <rye> duanedesign, i am really interested in that, i was told that conflicts are generated when client notices that server-side hash is not the same it has locally (i.e. upon upload/download md gets updated server-side hash)
[16:59] <karni> How twisted is that. ActionQueue uses ActionQueueCommands that are queued in RequestQueue that takes ActionQueue as a parameter. Can't decide where to bite first.
[17:10] <facundobatista> karni, and I'm changing that heavily
[17:10] <facundobatista> duanedesign, shouldn't be conflicts there... better to get logs and check
[17:10] <karni> facundobatista: it's you who was working on the command pool, weren't you?
[17:11] <facundobatista> duanedesign, otoh, we fixed some issues in the past about that, so please check the client version
[17:11] <facundobatista> karni, yes, and still working....
[17:12] <karni> facundobatista: right. I decided, however, that meta/content queues are quite good idea for Android. we don't have multiple streams (not really necessary on a mobile device), and queuing makes things clean.
[17:12] <karni> facundobatista: so, in the end, I decided to port that code
[17:12] <facundobatista> karni, those already disappeared
[17:13] <karni> facundobatista: I know. but it's because on a PC each command handles it's lifecycle on it's own, doesn't it?
[17:13] <facundobatista> yes
[17:14] <karni> facundobatista: Right. And I vote for one-command-at-a-time on Android :) Do you have anything to say about it? Any suggestions?
[17:14] <karni> facundobatista: It's good time to talk, as I've ported other parts and the action queue is the last that I need.
[17:14] <karni> that I *want ;)
[17:14] <facundobatista> karni, why one command at a time?
[17:15] <facundobatista> karni, why not two unlinks in parallel, for example?
[17:16] <duanedesign> facundobatista: thank you
[17:16] <karni> facundobatista: IRL, when do we have more then 1 unlink in parallel?
[17:16] <karni> when a folder is deleted?
[17:16] <karni> (or is it just 1 unlink per deleted folder?)
[17:17] <nessita> ralsina: any news on the reviews?
[17:17] <ralsina> nessita: almost done with the first one, sorry it took so long
[17:18] <nessita> no problem, I'm glad your system now works
[17:18] <karni> facundobatista: I'll head and read the merge proposal comment of yours again. The one from unleashed queues.
[17:18] <ralsina> nessita: I did get two errors on the tests but it's because of the strange crashes
[17:19] <ralsina> So I will approve it anyway. Not branch-related at all, it seems.
[17:19] <nessita> ralsina: wanna pastebin them?
[17:19] <ralsina> nessita: sure, 1 minute
[17:19] <facundobatista> karni, ok
[17:20] <ralsina> nessita: https://pastebin.canonical.com/42743
[17:21] <ralsina> Apparently the VBox extensions broke, so I have to copy by hand :-(
[17:22] <ralsina> Oh, unity2d does lots of new things (the automounter works great)
[17:22] <joshuahoover> nessita: ping
[17:23] <nessita> joshuahoover: pong
[17:23]  * thisfred holds out for unity-1d
[17:23] <ralsina> thisfred: you can use 2d and close the notebook's lid!
[17:23] <karni> facundobatista: all-pushing-kwargs-6 contains unleash-the-queues, doesn't it?
[17:23] <thisfred> if they can do it for wolfenstein, they can do it for unity
[17:23] <joshuahoover> nessita: ubuntuone-preferences from command line gives gnomekeyring.BadArgumentsError for a user...not sure what version of ubuntu
[17:24] <thisfred> ralsina: closing it so that only a single line of pixels is visible will be hard :)
[17:24] <ralsina> thisfred: you leave just a bit of reflected light escape and deduce from that :-)
[17:24] <facundobatista> karni, yes, but other unrelated changes... maybe get https://code.launchpad.net/~facundo/ubuntuone-client/unleash-the-queues-5/+merge/48179
[17:25] <karni> facundobatista: right right, thanks. I see it
[17:26] <nessita> joshuahoover: I have no idea what that can be. I do know that accessing the keyring using gnomekeyring is extremely buggy  and crashy, so I only can advice to move to a newer version of ubuntu
[17:26] <joshuahoover> nessita: ok, thanks!
[17:27] <nessita> joshuahoover: sorry for not being of much help :-(
[17:27] <joshuahoover> nessita: np, just wanted to see if it was something you knew about :)
[17:27] <nessita> joshuahoover: but the keyring has tons of weird corner cases, specially with autologin
[17:27] <joshuahoover> nessita: yes, sigh...
[17:27] <karni> facundobatista: dang. I think your merge proposal comment was nice and descriptive, but I can't find it anymore :< (the one form unleash-the-queues)
[17:29] <facundobatista> karni, https://code.launchpad.net/~facundo/ubuntuone-client/unleash-the-queues-3/+merge/46281 ?
[17:29] <karni> facundobatista: perfect! thanks
[17:32] <dobey> hrmm
[17:34] <dobey> grr
[17:34] <dobey> wtf, valac is in the control file
[17:36] <dobey> well, that's some ole bs
[17:39] <dobey> ralsina: not sure why the buildd didn't install vala on those. weird.
[17:39] <ralsina> dobey: I'm sure you will figure it out.
[17:40] <ralsina> dobey: these things hardly ever come up right the first time.
[17:41] <dobey> what it looks like, is that the recipe stuff pulled half of the revision or something
[17:42] <dobey> oh, no
[17:42] <dobey> doh
[17:43] <dobey> i see
[17:43]  * dobey fixes
[17:43] <dobey> next builds should work
[17:43] <dobey> and i just approved one of nessita's branches, so we'll have another build in a few minutes
[17:44] <nessita> dobey: thanks
[17:46] <dobey> wow, something on my phone has caused it to go nuts :(
[17:46] <ralsina> dobey: that's the one I've been testing for an hour :-D
[17:46] <dobey> heh
[17:46] <ralsina> oh, well, onto the next one
[17:46] <dobey> sorry :P
[17:46] <ralsina> dobey: np, I was getting misterious failures anyway
[17:47] <nessita> ralsina: there are 3 more in the queue, so you'll get more fun :-)
[17:47]  * dobey turns off the linkedin/facebook contacts
[17:48] <ralsina> nessita: he, this policy that I will review anything you guys ask is making me learn so much ;-)
[17:48] <nessita> :-D
[17:49] <ralsina> nessita: since the first branch is approved, now I only need to merge the second one to trunk, right?
[17:49] <nessita> ralsina: yes, becasue the prerequisite is already merged on my branch
[17:49] <ralsina> nessita: ok
[17:49] <dobey> meh, i hate finding bugs in our dependencies
[17:50]  * ralsina is using hg, bzr and git every day, and they are exactly different enough to make his head hurt
[17:50] <jdobrien> ralsina, like using python, javascript and c# at the same time :)
[17:51] <ralsina> jdobrien: yeah, if they were MORE different I could context-switch
[17:51] <ralsina> but right now I wonder why hg has multiple tips per branch and git doesn't and so on
[17:52] <ralsina> Or maybe git does and it just never happened to me. git is mysterious.
[17:52] <dobey> people use hg?
[17:52] <ralsina> dobey: well, on googlecode it's hg or svn
[17:52] <dobey> should have used svn :)
[17:52] <ralsina> dobey: so I've been using hg in my after-hours project these last week
[17:53] <dobey> or just move it to launchpad ;)
[17:53] <ralsina> dobey: I would have, but I am not the only one in the project and... well, they wanted to be modern ;-)
[17:53] <ralsina> dobey: I personally find googlecode much friendlier for a casual project. Less bureaucratic :-(
[17:54] <dobey> yeah, there is a lot of nonsensical madness on launchpad
[17:54] <ralsina> googlecode is like "here's a wiki, here's VCS, here's an issue tracker, start coding"
[17:56] <karni> facundobatista: are downloads run in parallel in unleashed-queues ?
[17:57] <dobey> hrmm
[17:57] <dobey> learning spanish by listening to Manu Chao is probably not the best way to learn it
[17:57] <beuno> it's not the worst either
[17:57] <dobey> well, yeah, i could just learn from mandel
[17:58] <ralsina> dobey: well, we understand what he says, at least.
[17:58] <ralsina> dobey: you would only learn synonims for excrement
[17:59] <karni> facundobatista: the thing is, I wouldn't want to run too many things at a time. plus, phones screen and 1 finger are somewhat less capable than nautilus and a mouse.
[17:59] <ralsina> And I must say spaniards are pretty hard to understand for most spanish-speakers :-)
[17:59] <karni> facundobatista: having said that, unleashed queues may be simpler - which is good. but I liked the control over queueing stuff..
[18:00] <dobey> ralsina: sure, i had a much easier time understanding/reading things in BA, than I did in Barcelona
[18:00] <karni> facundobatista: so I'll happily hear out what you've got to say
[18:00] <ralsina> dobey: with some spaniards is like learning english from scotsmen
[18:01] <dobey> hehe
[18:01] <ralsina> Sure, you will sound cool, like Desmond in Lost. But understanding what you say is something else :-)
[18:01] <ralsina> brodah!
[18:01] <facundobatista> karni, right now Uploads and Downloads have a semaphore to not run too many of those at the same time
[18:01] <dobey> ralsina: we'll have to introduce you to kevin
[18:01] <karni> facundobatista: ah, perfect!
[18:02] <facundobatista> karni, you may want to extend that to all commands, and may be simpler to reuse last code
[18:02]  * ralsina has a terrible-enough accent already
[18:02] <karni> facundobatista: this sound better every time we talk! great
[18:02] <facundobatista> karni, :D
[18:02] <karni> ;)
[18:06] <karni> facundobatista: so, just to be sure we're on the same page, I should get unleash-the-queues-5 to get me started with the latest action_queue, is that correct?
[18:07] <karni> facundobatista: or should I merge it with all-pushing-kwargs-6 (EventQueue is also important piece for me)
[18:09] <facundobatista> karni, my better recomendation will be for you to wait for unleash-the-queues-6, which impacts heavily in command life cycle (making it simpler)
[18:09] <facundobatista> karni, this branch should be proposed today or tomorrow...
[18:09] <karni> facundobatista: I see..
[18:09]  * karni tries to come up with something else to code
[18:10] <karni> facundobatista: I'll be waiting for it :) It'd be cool if you could ping me when that's ready
[18:13] <facundobatista> karni, ok
[18:13] <ralsina> I am about to add another CPU to the natty VM. make test takes forever :-(
[18:14] <dobey> ralsina: make sure whatever branch of ubuntuone-client your testing either has my fix from yesterday, or doesn't have the chane to remove test_preferences.py
[18:15] <dobey> ralsina: for some reason, that bug also ended up having insane memory usage by u1trial, and made things much slower
[18:15] <ralsina> dobey:  Is your fix in trunk? If it is, I have it.
[18:15] <dobey> yes it is in trunk
[18:15] <dobey> but if you're testing someone else's branch, they might not have the fix in their branch, if they branched before that chanage :)
[18:15] <ralsina> dobey: memory usage is ok, it's just maxing one i3 core all the time
[18:16] <ralsina> dobey: I branch trunk and merge the testing branch, so I should have it anyway
[18:16] <dobey> ah ok
[18:16] <ralsina> Besides, I have 8 freaking GBs of RAM now :-)
[18:18] <karni> ralsina: my first PC-class computer had 32 megs of RAM I think. And I know Bill Gates thought nobody would ever need more than 512KB ;)
[18:18] <ralsina> karni: I sold a bike to get a 286 with 640kb of RAM, two 5 1/4 floppies and no HD :-)
[18:18] <karni> ralsina: That sounds awesome
[18:19] <ralsina> I think I remember it being 12Mhz with a turbo button for 16Mhz of awesomeness
[18:19] <karni> I mean, selling a bike for a computer. That must have been times.
[18:19] <ralsina> karni: well, I am sure my biking career would have been less lucrative, so it worke out fine ;-)
[18:20] <dobey> ralsina: you should get a new machine with turbo button
[18:20] <ralsina> dobey: they are out there again!
[18:20] <ralsina> dobey:  I saw an atom netbook with an overclock switch at the back
[18:20] <karni> dobey: I had 166MMX. the turbo LED wouldn't turn off even if I pushed the turbo button multiple times ;d
[18:21] <ralsina> There was a guy that would overclock customer PCs by rearranging the leds that told you the Mhz on the cabinet
[18:21] <karni> ralsina: muahahahah
[18:21] <dobey> ralsina: the new i7 mobile chips have "turbo boost" too
[18:21] <karni> I am so tweeting this
[18:22] <ralsina> dobey: I will probably get an i7 this year, if they have decent battery life. I'm not a fan of 1st generation anything
[18:23] <dobey> i might if i can find a suitable form factor laptop
[18:24] <ralsina> karni, what's your twitter?
[18:24] <karni> ralsina: I just @ at you ;) mkarnicki
[18:24] <dobey> hrmm
[18:24] <ralsina> there, followed :-)
[18:24] <dobey> man
[18:25] <karni> ralsina: ^^
[18:25] <ralsina> dobey: for you that means a 6" i7 right?
[18:25] <dobey> i wish the weather would stay like this for the next 2 months
[18:25] <dobey> ralsina: ideally, 8 or 9
[18:25] <dobey> ralsina: but 8 or 9 with high resolution
[18:25] <dobey> not that 800x480 bollocks
[18:25] <ralsina> I would love a 9" with decent performance and at least 1280x1024 or something like that
[18:25] <ralsina> I miss 4:3 screens
[18:25] <ralsina> Somuch vertical space!
[18:26] <dobey> 1920x108 would be nice
[18:26] <dobey> on 9"
[18:26] <ralsina> 108? That's radical widescreen ;-)
[18:26] <dobey> 1080
[18:27] <ralsina> I don't think we are getting that on9" for a couple of years. At least at a reasonable cost
[18:27] <dobey> i don't see why not
[18:27] <ralsina> dobey: because 9" are expected to be cheap andultra densedisplays are expensive
[18:27] <dobey> well, aside from the fact that companies aren't producing 9" 1080p LCD/LED panels, because they think they won't sell
[18:28] <dobey> ralsina: they aren't that expensive
[18:28] <ralsina> Same reason apple isnot making a 300+ dpi ipad 2 this year :-)
[18:28] <dobey> ralsina: and the larger screens are usually cheaper
[18:28] <ralsina> dobey: yes, the expensive thing is pixel density, not quantity
[18:28] <dobey> not really
[18:29] <dobey> they don't even make 1920x1200 15" screens any more, and those weren't very expensive
[18:29] <ralsina> dobey: notebooks or desktop monitors?
[18:29] <dobey> notebook
[18:29] <dobey> i wish they made them like that for workstation
[18:29] <ralsina> the 15" notebooks are supposed to be dirt cheap too
[18:29] <ralsina> That's why they get crap screens
[18:29] <dobey> they are now
[18:30] <ralsina> The "premium" notebooks are 12" and17"
[18:30] <dobey> dell used to have a 1920x1200 15" laptop though
[18:30] <dobey> and it wasn't really expensive
[18:30] <ralsina> dell's adamo is not a terrible notebook and is not expensive anymore.  If they only had warranty on Argentina...
[18:31] <karni> vds: how's REST coming along :)?
[18:32] <ralsina> All dell's 15" are now 1366x768 => crap
[18:35] <dobey> hell
[18:35] <dobey> i would be happy if i could buy ONLY a 9" 1080p AM-OLED panel
[18:35] <dobey> i would make my own laptop case and shove some other hardware in it
[18:36] <dobey> because i am awesome like that
[18:37] <dobey> sigh, i fixed the one problem with the nightlies
[18:37] <dobey> and now, another one :(
[18:39] <dobey> it's going to take me like 6 hours to remove my linkedin/fb accounts from my phone i guess :(
[18:40] <dobey> hrmm, and i really need to apt-get upgrade my workstation, and reboot it and muck with these dram settings so i can tell the ocz guy they don't work, so i can hopefully get my rma
[18:40] <ralsina> chad ping
[18:40] <ralsina> Oops, CardinalFang ping :-)
[18:40] <dobey> oh yay, it built on natty
[18:40] <dobey> but not on m or l
[18:40] <dobey> doh
[18:42] <ralsina> nessita: test failure in the lp:~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-client/add-subscribed-to-shares branch: https://pastebin.canonical.com/42753/
[18:42] <ralsina> This is on natty +nightlies
[18:43] <nessita> ralsina: alredy fixed, please re pull
[18:43] <nessita> :-)
[18:43] <ralsina> ok
[18:43] <nessita> (I noticied a few minutes ago)
[18:45] <dobey> doh and lucid has some other issues
[18:45] <dobey> bother.
[18:48] <dobey> and i could do without all this wind here
[19:02] <CardinalFang> ralsina, hi
[19:03] <ralsina> hi chad
[19:03] <ralsina> I wanted to know ifyou made any progress with the replication problem
[19:04] <dobey> alecu: ping
[19:05] <dobey> alecu: you still do primary development on maverick?
[19:09] <alecu> dobey, yes. And testing on natty.
[19:10] <dobey> alecu: when you do 'make -C libsyncdaemon' in ubuntuone-client trunk, do you get a SyncDaemon-1.0.gir built?
[19:11] <alecu> let me check
[19:13] <CardinalFang> ralsina, I'm pretty sure it works.  I'm verifying for release now.
[19:14] <ralsina> CardinalFang: oh, that's GREAT news
[19:16] <Chipaca> ah!
[19:16] <Chipaca> CardinalFang:  not in nightlies even yet?
[19:17] <CardinalFang> Chipaca, I saw you say "HTTP 400".  I don't know what to make of that yet.
[19:17] <dobey> Chipaca: the nightlies should have the fixes yes
[19:17] <Chipaca> I just pulled the nightlies and am getting a traceback
[19:18] <Chipaca> (first the 400, and now a traceback, both with the nightlies)
[19:18] <dobey> or well should have the code, whether it works or not i don't know :)
[19:19] <Chipaca> ah, but maybe it's my disabling of stats that broke it. forgot to turn that back on. gimme a sec.
[19:19] <alecu> dobey, it does not generate any .gir files
[19:19] <CardinalFang> Hrm.
[19:20] <dobey> alecu: and you have ppa:ubuntuone/nightlies deb-src listed in software-properties-gtk?
[19:21] <alecu> dobey, oh, the deb-src were disabled
[19:21] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: is there a way to force a replication, or do i have to wait 10 minutes?
[19:21] <alecu> dobey, I'll try right now.
[19:21] <dobey> alecu: re-enable it and apt-get build-dep ubuntuone-client and try please :)
[19:22] <CardinalFang> Chipaca, you have to wait, or kill "desktopcouch-service"
[19:23] <Chipaca> *gasp*
[19:23] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: ok, some progress, but then it died
[19:23] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: sorry, it didn't die, but something tracebacked
[19:23] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: I'll be quiet now and upload the full log when it says it's done
[19:24] <CardinalFang> Chipaca, er, well, a traceback isn't necessarily bad.  I'm catching exceptions and logging them in a few places.
[19:24]  * CardinalFang waits.
[19:24] <Chipaca> ServerError: (500, ('json_encode', '{bad_term,<0.267.0>}'))
[19:24] <Chipaca> ^ that one does seem bad-ish :)
[19:24] <CardinalFang> Ah. That's probably bad.
[19:24] <Chipaca> the others are db_not_founds, which don't seem too bad.
[19:25] <CardinalFang> HTTP 500 from couchdb could mean corrupted DB.
[19:26] <CardinalFang> It's not likely something I could fix, in any case.
[19:26] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: https://pastebin.canonical.com/42761/
[19:27] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: was it /_all_docs?with_documents=1 ? (to get everything in a db)
[19:28] <CardinalFang> Chipaca, the rest looks normal.
[19:28] <CardinalFang> Chipaca, that looks right, or very close to it.
[19:28]  * Chipaca reads the api docs
[19:29] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: include_docs
[19:29] <CardinalFang> Ah, right.
[19:29] <Chipaca> and =true :)
[19:29] <nessita> dobey: newly user created in natty, started the desktop session for the first time, added computer to U1, and U1 is not in the shortcut section from nautilus (left panel, bottom half, next to Documents, Music, Pictures, Videos and Downloads)
[19:29] <Chipaca> so, I'm able to get all the docs fine
[19:30] <Chipaca> what's tripping couchdb up?
[19:31] <dobey> ah, launchpad's exceptional use of <blink>
[19:31] <Chipaca> dobey: ?!?
[19:31] <dobey> nessita: hrmm, don't know.
[19:31] <CardinalFang> Chipaca, are you talking to rayas or couchdb.one.u.c?
[19:31] <dobey> Chipaca: file a bug and watch the pulsing "Thank you for your bug report" info box
[19:31] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: to couchdb.one.u.c
[19:32] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: https://couchdb.one.ubuntu.com/u%2f651%2f2bd%2f11/contacts/_all_docs?include_docs=true
[19:33] <ralsina>  gack, my notebook crawled for 15 minutes and suddenly snapped back to life
[19:33] <CardinalFang> Chipaca, check local also.
[19:36] <Chipaca> CardinalFang: local didn't have a contacts prior to this; now it has one with no records other than _design
[19:37]  * CardinalFang boggles.
[19:38] <nessita> ralsina: how are the  reviews coming? can I help you somehow?
[19:39] <ralsina> nessita: it just takes forever to run the tests
[19:39] <ralsina> I amfinishing second branch in a few mintes, I hope
[19:39] <nessita> yeah, I've noticed that too, since a few weeks now
[19:41] <dobey> hmm
[19:41] <CardinalFang> Chipaca, want to go to #couchdb and fish for answers?
[19:42] <CardinalFang> Oh, you're already there.
[19:47] <dobey> verterok: it seems like dbus-daemon does not want to be run on lucid :(
[19:48] <verterok> dobey: it used to run ok in the with the old runner
[19:48] <verterok> s/in the//
[19:49] <dobey> verterok: the way dbus-daemon is started has not really changed :(
[19:49] <verterok> oh
[19:49] <dobey> anyway, i am looking
[19:49] <dobey> running dbus-daemon on the command line it is not wanting to start
[19:51] <dobey> oh
[19:51] <dobey> crap
[19:53] <dobey> ok, will have a fix shortly
[19:55] <dobey> verterok: can you report a bug against ubuntuone-dev-tools please?
[19:55] <verterok> sure
[19:56] <dobey> thanks
[19:56] <alecu> dobey, now I get errors while running valac: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/561570/
[19:56] <dobey> grr, dbus-daemon
[19:56] <verterok> dobey: #712086
[19:57] <dobey> alecu: ok, the nightlies have the same error. can you help me debug that in a few minutes (as soon as i fix this devtools issue)
[19:57] <verterok> bug #712086 maybe?
[19:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 712086 in ubuntuone-dev-tools "dbus-daemon fails to start (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712086
[19:57] <alecu> dobey, sure
[19:59] <dobey> great
[20:25] <ralsina> nessita: I have to take a break to pick my kid. I am still running the tests on the 3rd branch, I looked at the code, and if all goes well I will approve it in a while when I come back.
[20:25] <nessita> ralsina: awesome, thanks
[20:26] <ralsina> hey, it finished! another +1 for you :-)
[20:37] <nessita> yey!
[20:40] <dobey> verterok: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-dev-tools/fix-dbus-lucid/+merge/48380
[20:41] <verterok> dobey: k, thanks!
[20:49] <dobey> anyone else want to give a second review on that? https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-dev-tools/fix-dbus-lucid/+merge/48380
[20:49] <dobey> nessita: maybe you could real quick? :)
[20:50] <nessita> dobey: already testing it, at least to confirm it keeps working on maverick
[20:50] <nessita> I'm running client tests pointing devtools to this branch
[21:13] <ralsina> eod for me. have nice evening!
[21:18] <kieppie> howdy
[21:18] <kieppie> anyone online?
[21:26] <kieppie> hi guys. is anyone able to give me some insight into UbuntuOne, such as why there's no notification icon? (installing from PPA now)
[21:32] <dobey> there is no notification icon because we got rid of the tray applet a couple releases ago.
[21:32] <dobey> which PPA are you installing from?
[21:43] <kieppie> hey dobey: I'm installing from: ppa:rye/ubuntuone-extras . I'd like the U1 indicator applet for the same reason I'd use the DropBox one: so see what the sync status is, space, & to *explicitly* force a sync
[21:44] <kieppie> dobey: I use U1 on several machines (of course), sometimes next to each other, and I'd like to ensure the sync is up-to-date before disconnecting, especially w stuff like my keepass DB I'm migrating there
[21:44] <dobey> ok
[21:45] <dobey> i think that creates an application indicator, so you would need to have the application indicators applet on your panel for it to show up when you run it
[21:46] <kieppie> dobey: yip. which was present in earlier versions, but not any more, which doesn't make much sense
[21:47] <dobey> i'm not sure what you mean by that
[21:47] <dobey> earlier versions of what?
[21:49] <kieppie> dobey: I was an early adopter of U1 when it was 1st released, but didn't use it for a while. I've started using it again recently & notices the notification-area status-icon  missing, which seems by design, but I do not understand why such a decision has make, or why there is no setting available to enable the icon/staus to be shown
[21:50] <dobey> because it is an area of huge controversy, and we really shouldn't need to have one anyway. it was always planned that the tray icon would go away, and we would improve integration with the rest of the system
[21:51] <dobey> there will be some similar features in 11.04 again though, as there will be integration with the unity launcher, messaging menu, etc... to help provide better information
[21:53] <kieppie> I understand that changing accepted functions cause controversy, but what I do not understand is removing functionality without providing the aforementioned integration first. I can get used to changes (goodness knows I do with each release), but what I do not understand is what the new way is of doing the old thing
[21:53] <kieppie> unity laucnher integration I can dig. makes sense.
[21:53] <alecu> thisfred, approved your branch.
[21:53] <kieppie> it's the inter-release leap without that tool that troubling
[21:54] <thisfred> alecu thx, awesome!
[21:55] <alecu> thisfred, remember that "notification" that was returned by show_notification and was required as parameter by update_notification... are you going to move that to Notifcation.self in a further branch?
[21:56] <thisfred> alecu: I could do that, but then you can't use the same object to send/update multiple notifications easily...
[21:56] <thisfred> Don't know if that's a use case
[21:57] <alecu> thisfred, oh, I was planning on creating a new Notification object for each notification...
[21:57] <thisfred> of course, as it is, update does not really need to be on the class
[21:57] <alecu> I thought the api would look nicer
[21:57] <alecu> but anyway, its a minor detail... so don't worry.
[21:58] <thisfred> alecu: let's see when we use it a lot if it's easier one way or the other, it's easy enough to fix
[21:58] <alecu> perfect
[21:58] <dobey> alright, i'm out
[21:58] <dobey> later all
[21:58] <thisfred> bye dobey
[22:03] <nessita> bye everybody!
[23:34] <vds> karni, it is going ok