[01:11] <Calz> charlie-tca: why does the iso of xubuntu is so hard to burn
[01:12] <Calz> i downloaded another one and burned it two times, both with errors
[01:14] <charlie-tca> It might be the site you are downloading from, instead of anything you are doing. Which mirror is it?
[01:15] <Calz> let me see
[01:15] <Calz> i download from the site
[01:15] <Calz> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/10.10/release/xubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso
[01:16] <Calz> now i'm trying to down by torrent
[01:16] <Calz> i think that in that way it'll come right
[01:17] <charlie-tca> Okay, that is a good mirror
[01:17] <Calz> hehe
[01:18] <Calz> yeah but i burned two cds with the same error
[01:18] <Calz> so i think that is an iso problem
[02:01] <hiexpo> ? are all the apps that are available in ubuntu available here in x
[02:02] <charlie-tca> If x means xubuntu, yes, since Xubuntu uses the same repositories as Ubuntu
[02:03] <hiexpo> charlie-tca, ok kool just wanted to make sure i will be able to do the same thing in xubuntu that i can in ubuntu
[02:04] <charlie-tca> depends on what you are trying to do. sometimes, you have to work harder to make it happen in xubuntu
[02:04] <hiexpo> charlie-tca, why causes of the xserver
[02:05] <charlie-tca> because Ubuntu makes it very simple for the beginner to use
[02:05] <hiexpo> charlie-tca, ya true   > does compiz work ok under xubuntu
[02:06] <charlie-tca> Not without some effort
[02:06] <charlie-tca> The window manager in Xubuntu does have its own compositor, though, that does not need compiz
[02:07] <hiexpo> charlie-tca, true but linux wasn't suppose to be as easy as they made it in ubuntu
[02:08] <hiexpo> charlie-tca, what does it use ?
[02:08] <charlie-tca> xfwm4
[02:08] <charlie-tca> the xfce window manager
[02:08] <hiexpo> oh ok
[02:10] <hiexpo> ya i ran a live system and it appears to me to be much faster than ubuntu gnome
[02:10] <charlie-tca> Then the installed system would seem like it is super fast
[02:10] <hiexpo> kool
[02:12] <hiexpo> ok well thanx again there charlie-tca gotta do some backups now
[02:13] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[02:14] <charlie-tca> Calz: I thought you said the ubuntu image worked
[02:14] <Calz> yes
[02:14] <charlie-tca> Just install with it. Then install xubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <Calz> i'm using it now
[02:14] <charlie-tca> You can remove the extra stuff following
[02:14] <charlie-tca> !purexfce
[02:14] <Calz> yes i read it in someqhere
[02:15] <charlie-tca> the link there will tell you all about it
[02:15] <Calz> ohhh thanks
[02:15] <Calz> u're very nice guy
[02:15] <charlie-tca> Most of us are
[02:16] <Calz> yeah, they seem just to be sleeping :)
[02:16] <knome> erm
[02:17] <knome> or busy doing other things
[02:17] <Calz> i'll try it tomorrow
[02:17] <Calz> now i'm playing pes 2011
[02:17] <Calz> =B
[02:17] <charlie-tca> We are all volunteers, so we do this in between the work and other stuff
[02:17] <Calz> yeah i imagined that
[02:18] <Calz> i think in sleeping people because it's 00:00 here now and i'm sleepy
[02:20] <knome> weird timezone if it's 00:00 :)
[02:20] <Calz> really
[02:20] <Calz> gmt-3
[02:20] <Calz> if i'm not wrong
[02:20] <knome> gmt-2:20
[02:20] <knome> :P
[02:21] <Calz> srry i didn't get
[02:21] <Calz> hauihih
[02:22] <knome> anyway, bed. it's about 4:20 here...
[02:22] <knome> ->
[02:22] <Calz> yeah it's late
[02:22] <Calz> hauihiuahuiah
[02:23] <Calz> where are u?
[02:23] <Calz> us? canada?
[03:19] <aaulia> hi guys
[03:19] <aaulia> anybody here ?
[05:34] <Gryllida> hi
[05:34] <Gryllida> I installed 'xubuntu-desktop'
[05:34] <Gryllida> What's the command (instead of 'gnome-session') to start the environment?
[06:18] <zc456> xfce4-session
[07:45] <fdsaseemslegit> Good morning afternoon and night,  folks.  Anyone else scared to upgrade to upstart,  because they see it as the beginning of the end.
[12:37] <ljarbinet> anyone with an issue/solution for Latitude6510 display with interl pro video card ?
[12:48] <brot> ljarbinet_: #intel-gfx
[12:51] <pAt_> Hi, is ubuntu one available on xubuntu with Thunar?
[12:52] <brot> pAt_: you can install the ubuntu one client :)
[12:53] <pAt_> brot: thx, and this work with Thunar?
[12:53] <brot> well, the the "ubuntu one" thing is only a folder locally
[12:54] <pAt_> ok, and the synchronizing is working then ?
[14:25] <WhitePelican> is xfce4.8 available somewhere for Maverick?
[14:25] <charlie-tca> not officially
[14:26] <WhitePelican> not even a ppa?
[14:27] <charlie-tca> There is no official backport at this time. There are ppa's. If you wish to trust them to be correct, it is your choice.
[14:28] <WhitePelican> true
[14:28] <WhitePelican> will there ever be official backports?
[14:31] <charlie-tca> that is still being discussed
[14:32] <WhitePelican> ah
[14:33] <WhitePelican> say yes, please
[14:33] <WhitePelican> if i decide to try the ppa, what is the atom in sources.list?
[14:36] <fdsaseemslegit> WhitePelican:  Yes,  please.
[14:38] <WhitePelican> I meant please say yes in the discussion to allow xfce4 for people using Maverick
[14:39] <xGrind> WhitePelican; i'm using xfce 4.8
[14:40] <WhitePelican> how did you get it? did you compile it yourself?
[14:41] <xGrind> WhitePelican; ppa
[14:41] <WhitePelican> and what is the ppa I need to put in sources.list?
[14:42] <xGrind> no
[14:47] <charlie-tca> WhitePelican: If you choose to upgrade, please know any bugs will be reported directly to Xfce, too. We will mark any bugs in lucid and maverick with xfce4.8 invalid
[14:48] <WhitePelican> ok
[14:49] <WhitePelican> I accept the terms :)
[14:51] <WhitePelican> what is the ppa?
[14:54] <Sysi> google?
[14:55] <charlie-tca> I don't have them
[14:55] <WhitePelican> google is useless
[14:57] <fdsaseemslegit> ^Blasphemer
[14:58] <fdsaseemslegit> WhitePelican:  1st result  Xubuntu Team Dev PPA: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ppa
[14:59] <charlie-tca> that's not to upgrade maverick or lucid to 4.8
[15:00] <Sysi> 4.7 packages, development version
[15:00] <charlie-tca> the latest we have there is 4.7, which is the 4.8 alpha/beta
[15:01] <fdsaseemslegit> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/xfce-48-ubuntu-1004-and-1010-ppas.html
[20:49] <pAt_> Hi, will the unity issue in Ubuntu 11.04 affact Xubuntu 11.04 somehow?
[20:49] <charlie-tca> which issue?
[20:50] <pAt_> switching to Unity interface
[20:51] <charlie-tca> no, because Xubuntu does not use gnome or unity
[20:51] <pAt_> thats good news charlie-tca =)
[20:58] <humfers> hello folks.  could someone help with a quick query about *.desktop files not showing up in menus, please?
[21:02] <charlie-tca> sure, version of xubuntu, where did you add the file?
[21:03] <humfers> thanks charlie.. 10.10, and the new *.desktop was placed into /usr/share/applications
[21:06] <charlie-tca> did you copy an existing file or create a new one?
[21:07] <humfers> cp file1.desktop file2.desktop, and then edited file2.desktop to reflect the relevant changes
[21:09] <charlie-tca> might need a logou/login, then. Sometimes the change won't take with out logging in again
[21:09] <humfers> OK, I'll give it a shot.  Thank you for your help.  Much appreciated. :)
[21:10] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[21:10] <humfers> ttfn.
[21:14] <Lord_Rahl> ? I just install xubuntu 10.04 and install the xfce 4.8 PPA (I think). I can not find a mouse tweaker app in xfce Is there one or do I to install one? I find my mouse a little twitchy
[21:18] <Lord_Rahl> nm I found it
[21:44] <pAt_> In Ubuntu's audio settings, you can set the volume more than 100%, up to approx. 150%. Is this in Xubuntu also possible? I couldnj't find a way In the normal audio settings.
[21:45] <charlie-tca> How high above maximum volume is 150%?
[21:45] <charlie-tca> 100% should be the highest possible volume, I don't know if it goes higher, myself
[21:46] <knome> i suppose 150% means that it is made louder, but the quality also is reduced (eg. the 'low' and 'high' sound are cut off)
[21:46] <knome> +s
[21:48]  * Balsaq takes the long way home thru the sparsely populated binary rainforest known as....Xubuntu!
[21:48] <pAt_> yes knome, it is louder then the maximum of xubuntus setting, and I would like to achive this in xubuntu as well.
[21:48] <pAt_> charlie-tca: http://pat.homelinux.org/screen.jpg
[21:48] <knome> pAt_, have you checked all the settings in the mixer? i mean, is 'master' set to as loud as it can be, etc?
[21:49] <pAt_> yes knome, I even used the alsamixer in the commandline
[21:49] <knome> pAt_, do you have pulseaudio installed? try pavucontrol
[21:50] <pAt_> I just have a standard xubuntu installation knome, so I have to install pulseaudio additionally?
[21:51] <knome> no, i think it's installed by default. i don't know if pavucontrol is, though
[21:53] <pAt_> pavucontrol is not installed, I just install it
[21:56] <pAt_> hm, also just up to 100%
[22:09] <jkubota> can anyone tell me how I can change the background of 10.10 login splash screen? I want to change it to the karmic wallpaper
[22:14] <Balsaq> tweaks software will do it jkubota
[22:14] <Balsaq> i believe its called
[22:18] <jkubota> tweaks software?
[22:18] <jkubota> is the name I should be looking for?
[22:26] <knome> jkubota, gdm2setup should be able to do it at least: see section 2] @ http://myubuntublog.wordpress.com/2010/10/20/10-things-to-do-after-installing-maverick/
[22:26] <jkubota> hmm i'll check it out
[22:26] <jkubota> thanks
[22:27] <knome> np
[22:52] <xubuntu124> hola alguna persona que hable español
[22:52] <xubuntu124> ?
[22:52] <TheSheep> !es
[23:30] <welshmen> hi, i was hoping to get some help with a install?
[23:33] <welshmen> i'm trying to get Ubuntu 10.10 installed side by side with Win7. It has copied all of the files and i've put in the user name, password and all that jazz, but the forward button isn't lit for me to click on. I've hit the back button a number of times and than gone forward again but it still won't let me continue
[23:34] <welshmen> any ideas?
[23:34] <charlie-tca> user name must be all small letters, and cannot be "admin"
[23:34] <welshmen> ohhh i see
[23:35] <welshmen> thank you
[23:35] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[23:35] <mantise> Hi
[23:35] <charlie-tca> !hi | mantise
[23:35] <welshmen> i feel silly now , that was so simple
[23:36] <mantise> i just tryed out some diffrent desktops for my ubuntu box.. can i just install/remove as many desktops that i want? without it messing up anything ? programs/desktops ?
[23:36] <charlie-tca> welshmen: It is not explained, how would you know?
[23:36] <mantise> i have now 4 -5 desktops installed, but i now wanna remove the once i dont use, and just keep 2
[23:36] <charlie-tca> mantise: yes, the ???-desktop is a metapackage, you can remove them safely
[23:37] <charlie-tca> It doesn't remove all the packages it installed, though
[23:37] <mantise> charlie-tca: ok, just thru the software manager as i used to install em ?
[23:37] <charlie-tca> I think so
[23:37] <welshmen> i guess i could have tried that or other options?, before running for help at the first road block.
[23:37] <charlie-tca> It doesn't hurt to leave them, either
[23:37] <mantise> charlie-tca: well, when i find xubuntu there, there is some programs checked in the info.. i might remove some programs that came with xubuntu ?
[23:38] <mantise> charlie-tca: ok :)
[23:38] <charlie-tca> nope, not normally, mantise
[23:38] <mantise> charlie-tca: i just dont wanna use any kde programs for example, if i just use gnome and lubuntu desktops :)
[23:39] <charlie-tca> You would have to remove the kde applications individually, then
[23:39] <mantise> ok :)
[23:40] <charlie-tca> You could remove down to gnome only, and then reinstall lubuntu, too
[23:40] <charlie-tca> !puregnome
[23:42] <mantise> omg
[23:42] <mantise> the manuel remove is a spam command :o
[23:43] <mantise> but, i will go remove them, and go with kubuntu and xubuntu only
[23:43] <mantise> then i have an "heavyweight" and a "leightweight" desktop :)
[23:45] <mantise> ubottu: is that way better than doing it from the software manager ?
[23:46] <mantise> lol
[23:46] <mantise> my bad :p
[23:46] <charlie-tca> It helps get all the packages out that don't apply to the Ubuntu installation itself.
[23:47] <charlie-tca> Doing through software manager means you decide which packages to remove