[00:00] m_conley, just don't have the history menu open when loading a page ;) [00:00] i'll fix that tomorrow though, it's quite an easy fix [00:01] oh, i know exactly what causes it now. it happens if the history menu gets refreshed before all of the icons are loaded [00:01] the history item that drops off the end is the one that makes it crash [00:03] makes sense [00:04] chrisccoulson: you wouldn't have any recommendations on how to proceed with this nspr business, would you? I'm reading up on nspr right now, but I feel like I'll be wading through these docs for days at this pace. [00:14] m_conley, i'm not too sure. is the nspr folder being passed to the compiler as an include too? [00:15] m_conley, oh, hang on [00:15] what does NSPR_CFLAGS say in autoconf.mk in the extension build tree? [00:15] that's probably more relevant again ;) [00:15] i bet it's pointing to dist/include/nspr inside globalmenu-extension ;) [00:16] actually, that shouldn't happen either :/ [00:16] hmmmm [00:16] * chrisccoulson thinking out loud now [00:17] hm, it's pointing to: $(LIBXUL_DIST)/bin/nspr-config --prefix=[my home folders]/thunderbird/objdir-tb-release/mozilla/dist --includedir=[my home folders]/thunderbird/objdir-tb-release/mozilla/dist/include/nspr --cflags [00:17] LIBXUL_DIST = [home folders]/thunderbird/objdir-tb-release/mozilla/dist [00:18] Hmm. Is it possible to run unity off of the nouveau drivers? [00:19] tareth: it should work [00:21] m_conley, hmmm, that should work :/ [00:21] chrisccoulson: hm. Maybe I should be focusing my efforts on fixing the bugs in globalmenu-extension in 3.1 as opposed to edge. [00:21] kklimonda, alright, thanks. Unity's not starting for me at the moment and I wasn't sure if it was linked to xorg update kicking out my nvidia drivers. :) [00:22] chrisccoulson: because so far, I've had nothing but trouble the last few days trying to get this work with the latest stuff. :p [00:22] m_conley, either is appreciated. i think the lightning crash is reproducible in both [00:22] chrisccoulson: cool, alright [00:22] it might be easier to focus on 3.1 for now, and we provide an SDK package for that too :) [00:22] thunderbird-dev [00:23] cool - thanks [00:23] you just need to pass --with-libxul-sdk=/usr/lib/thunderbird-devel-3.1.7 (or whichever version it is) [00:23] gotcha [00:23] i think we have 3.1.8 already ;) [00:24] that *should* work, although i haven't tested it for a little while. occasionally, i commit something that breaks tbird 3.1 builds ;) [00:24] i'm still running a slightly older extension in tbird [00:24] i guess i should try it ;) [00:26] chrisccoulson: I'm curious - the skeleton for your extension, with the Makefile.in's, etc...did you generate this yourself, or is there a pre-built cookie cutter somewhere? [00:27] i use templates from the mozilla tree ;) [00:27] chrisccoulson: I ask, because I'm tackling integration with the new Messaging Menu next, and I'll probably start, as you did, with an extension. [00:27] the whole build system (everything in build/ and config/ is pretty much copied) [00:27] yeah, that's a good idea [00:27] i can help out with that anyway :) [00:28] it was easier to reuse an existing build system rather than create my own ;) [00:29] gotcha [00:33] chrisccoulson: hm - another snag. uGlobalMenuModule.cpp includes nsIClassInfoImpl, which includes stuff, which eventually includes nscore.h, and nscore.h is trying to include prtypes.h - and prtypes.h....well, prtypes.h doesn't exist. [00:34] hmmmmm :/ [00:34] that sounds like another nspr issue ;) [00:34] Now maybe *my* computer is telling me to quit for the day. :p [00:34] heh :) [00:34] what time is it where you are? [00:34] i'm in Vancouver for the week, so it's almost 5PM. [00:35] it's like 4:35, actually [00:35] ah, that's not too bad :) [00:35] it's 12.35am here ;) [00:35] whoa [00:35] where are you? [00:36] i'm in the UK. i normally hang around quite late most evenings [00:36] ah, gotcha [00:57] chrisccoulson: any idea why do my Firefox seems to freeze for up to 10 seconds every time I click on link? After restarting it everything works fine until the next time :) [00:57] whoa [00:58] I just got a Warning: Unresponsive script [00:58] kklimonda, i noticed that today, i'm not sure why it happens yet though [00:58] and the script in question is Script: resource://testpilot/modules/experiment_data_store.js:153 [00:58] you could try turning off testpilot ;) [00:59] hmm, it did help [00:59] it will be going off soon anyway [01:00] I wonder if it was the actual cause, or was the error a result of something else.. oh well, works fine, move along, citizen. ;) [01:11] chrisccoulson: whew, compiled. :) --with-system-nspr seems to be the ticket for me === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [03:30] bug 682499 [03:30] Launchpad bug 682499 in unity (Ubuntu) "Crash when enabling/disabling various Compiz plugins and that Unity plugin is enabled" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/682499 [06:13] Hi all [06:16] Why are all of you here? No activities? Why are everyone silent? [06:20] is the unity like this now?? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JSR8IC77Ub4/TTRtC4WihFI/AAAAAAAABn4/ntrB_591Kkk/s1600/83a257e838d48423d00f5e5fa11e5bc6-d36ysvh+%25281%2529.png [06:42] ranjan: most of us haven't woken up yet :) [06:42] ranjan: but hi :) [06:42] smspillaz, oh sorry :) [06:43] smspillaz, i am from india and its noon here ;) [06:43] I figured [06:43] * smspillaz is from australia [06:44] ranjan: that looks like a mockup [06:46] smspillaz, can the present unity version tweaked to look like that? [06:46] not at the moment no [06:46] unity is still a wip :) [06:47] oh!! :( [06:47] I was discussing with my friends the future of linux :) [06:47] i was ditching windows infront of them [06:47] ;) [06:47] cool [06:48] smspillaz, it would be very nice if the default ubuntu become like these mockups :) http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/01/4-beautiful-ubuntu-unity-ui.html [06:49] In my opinion that bar with shortcuts at the left side of unity is somewhat boring :( [06:53] something to suggest to the designers when they wake up or the ayatana lists [06:53] * smspillaz doesn't do design [06:53] smspillaz, ok ok :) [06:54] smspillaz, are you just an user of ubuntu or a contributer ?? [06:54] I work for canonical [06:55] I basically do the compiz maintainence [06:55] smspillaz, Great. are you a programmer> [06:55] >? [06:55] yes [06:55] Python!!?? [06:56] Python/C/C+/C#/JS [06:56] *C++ [06:56] mostly C++ [06:56] Oh My GOD [06:56] I would like to become a python programmer :) [06:57] i have started too. [06:57] I started with python too [06:57] since it was easy to learn [06:57] created simple hello world gtk+ apps [06:57] yeah [06:57] But i just dont know the OOPS, actually i didnt get a chance to learn OOPS :( [06:58] you mean OOP ? (object oriented programming?) [06:58] whenever i see a "Class" and "Self" i just faints :( [06:58] Yes OOP :) [06:58] oop takes a while to get your heard around [06:59] smspillaz, Yes. I know. [06:59] just wait till you get to polymorphic virtual function pointers in C++ :) [06:59] and dynamic casts [06:59] !! :) [06:59] and that's why God created other programming languages ;) [06:59] those are fun [06:59] yes, but C++ is still the best one [07:00] ranjan: if you want some inspiration http://smspillaz.wordpress.com/compiz-stuff/ the "Python Compiz Tools" are the first serious things I wrote [07:01] smspillaz, i was just about to ask you the same :) the path you travelled to become a serious programmer ;) [07:01] started with python, did some pygtk stuff, hacked on compiz plugins, wrote compiz plugins, rewrote all the compiz plugins in C++ maintained compiz core [07:01] hmm, any idea why it takes *ages* to maximize terminal in Unity? [07:01] kklimonda: nvidia ? [07:02] yeah [07:02] thats' why :) [07:02] smspillaz: that's not really an answer ;) [07:02] nvidia texture rebinding is sllooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww [07:02] kklimonda: but I know, I get told off for blaming problems on graphics drivers :) [07:02] why does it seem to affect only terminal? [07:03] smspillaz, this is great :) [07:03] you are great :) [07:03] smspillaz: as I see it if drivers are not good enough to do some stuff, then the stuff should not be done until they are fixed ;) [07:03] kklimonda: iirc there is a damage bug in the nvidia driver which causes it to mis-treat windows that have pixmaps which have alpha channels [07:03] kklimonda: run compiz through valgrind, and watch as it goes batshit at you when you resize a terminal [07:04] smspillaz: so I can disable the transparency to work around it? good enough [07:04] you can try that I guess [07:05] I spend most of my time in terminal and emacs anyway - I don't need all this bling ;) [07:05] then disable it :) [07:05] I'm the compiz developer not the compiz police [07:06] this nvidia bug is really annoying though, I wonder if I should ping aaronp about it [07:06] makes debugging a bit of a pain when you are valgrinding and resize a terminal which fills said terminal with about 6000 errors [07:06] :) [07:07] hmm.. I should see how nouveau works.. [07:07] and of course, valgrind stops reporting errors at about 100,000 [07:07] maybe it stopped breaking system when you open web page with many images in it. [07:07] kklimonda: nouveau isn't really supported at the moment. At the very moment it doesn't with with unity but it does work with compiz [07:07] and resize is smoooooottthhh [07:07] didn't it work with unity some time ago? [07:08] yeah, there was a regression which makes it hit an assertion failure. That's being worked on though iirc [07:08] bummer [07:08] also be weary that I'm not sure if we have the new kernel which turns on clock power mangement so your laptop might catch fire :) [07:08] or desktop, for that matter [07:09] last time I used nouveau it didn't run hotter than nvidia [07:09] runs really hot for me [07:09] then again, I have one of those defective cards [07:10] http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/10/all-nvidia-8400m-8600m-chips-faulty/2 [07:10] sure, I have the same one [07:10] oh, lucky you [07:10] mine runs really hot [07:10] replaced my MB twice (or maybe three times) [07:10] oh ok, so you haven't had the *same* card for 4 years like me :) [07:10] I've never had a problem with it overheating, just dying on me [07:11] well for me it doesn't die [07:11] it just gets hot [07:11] I'd prefer that [07:11] thats also true [07:11] as there is no way to really fix it post-warranty [07:11] replacing MB just puts you in the same lottery [07:11] didn't they extend the warranty for them ? [07:11] and resoldering the gpu also doesn't fix it. [07:12] lame [07:12] well, it fixes it - until the next time it breaks ;) [07:12] yeah [07:12] I've already decided [07:12] next laptop I get will have a tegra2 methinks :) [07:12] those are more powerful than this card and sip power [07:13] in my next life I'm going to be a shepherd.. [07:13] :) [07:17] smspillaz, oh is there any alternate thing like Glade?? [07:17] Comparing to visual studio its very difficult to create UI . [07:17] qt creator? [07:18] oh uh [07:18] Qt creator [07:18] yeah, glade sucks :/ [07:18] (sorry Amaranth :p) [07:18] I like glade [07:18] I used glade to design the apps I put on that patch [07:18] Qt Creator is for Qt though [07:18] *page [07:18] I know :) [07:18] Qt [07:18] everyone loves Qt [07:18] Qt [07:19] sure, but why noone can decide on ditching Gtk+ if Qt is so superior? [07:19] because all their stuff is already written in Gtk+ and they can't be bothered to learn the magic that is Qt :) [07:19] I don't mind anymore if *the* toolkit of Linux/Ubuntu is Qt or Gtk+. Just make a choice.. [07:19] then again, I only have limited knowledge of either Gtk or Qt [07:19] nobody ever wants to maintain the Gtk stuff in compiz so I have to do it :p [07:20] (someday people are doing to realize I have a deal with Amaranth to correct myself whenever I say QT or qt instead of Qt) [07:21] meh, typing it is not a problem - but not forgetting it's a "cute" and not "q-t" is ;) [07:21] :p [07:23] hmm.. where can I change the number of virtual desktops in ccsm? [07:28] kklimonda: ccsm -> general -> desktop *I think* [07:28] its called "horizontal virtual size" and "vertical virtual size" [07:29] ah, here it is. Thanks [07:29] np [07:29] or not. Do I have to restart for it to take effect? [07:29] you shouldnt [07:30] iirc though settings are a bit weird in unity [08:01] good morning [08:06] morning everyone [08:19] Hey everybody! [09:14] Hi all [09:14] smspillaz, hi [09:14] smspillaz, i am back [09:14] just installed the unity interface. [09:14] hi [09:15] how can i make unity to use the faenza iconset which i installed just now? [09:35] didrocks: could you read my comment on bug 710356 and tell me if that idea makes sense ? [09:35] Launchpad bug 710356 in unity (Ubuntu) "Resizing with external padding/grab area prevents reaching edge of screen" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710356 [09:35] it is basically the same thing that happens when you drag-scroll a document and your pointer reaches the edge of the screen [09:36] (taking a break from this invisible window bug since it is hard to reproduce) [09:36] smspillaz: makes sense to me :) [09:37] ok [09:37] lets test if it works then [09:37] the only case it wont work though are the diagonal cases [09:38] which sucks, but I cant think of a better way to do it X wise [09:53] didrocks: yeah, this solution works well, I like it [10:42] Morning people of ayatana [10:42] good morning! [11:12] Kaleo: hey, there will surely be a change to do in the .session file [12:02] kamstrup: hi. no rush with this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~kvalo/indicator-network/libconnman-ipv4/+merge/48452 === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === oubiwann_ is now known as oubiwann [12:40] njpatel: i'm about to roll a libunity release - this'll contain the launcher api. Jason's works hasn't landed in lp:unity yet; are you good with that? [12:50] kvalo: approved, no comments, really tight work there :-) [12:53] kamstrup: thanks! so tomorrow you will get your favorite, ipv6 ;) === mrslv is now known as mrslv_away [13:13] kamstrup: answered on the merge request, or didn't I understood it well? [13:21] kamstrup: thanks :) [13:36] didrocks: I am all hears [13:36] ears* === oubiwann is now known as oubiwann_ [13:37] Kaleo: so, I'll upload it after the freeze, probably tomorrow. This breaks the fallback system changing the key name [13:37] Kaleo: I'm not sure that you are fallbacking though, isn't it? [13:38] Kaleo: as you are using metacity, there is no hardware you know unity2d won't work? [13:42] didrocks: yep, we don't fallback [13:42] Kaleo: ok, nice, no action for you then and not breaking unity2d with the upload :) [13:44] didrocks: thanks! [13:44] Kaleo: yw, sorry for the noise, but better to ensure :) === gabon_ is now known as gabon === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [14:55] didrocks: could you try [14:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/561985/ [14:55] that might help with your switcher problems [14:55] since I think your system is just slow at resizing X windows (which probably explains why redecortion was so slow for you as well) [14:56] smspillaz: nice, trying :) [14:56] ok [14:57] smspillaz: can take some time because it only appears when I having some amount of window :) [14:57] so trying in the long term [14:57] ok [14:57] njpatel, i did an install test on a slow ass, celeron based intel classmate last night (i945) [14:57] unity was pretty good on it [14:57] :) [14:57] this was the box that wouldn't run mutter based unity :) [14:58] * kenvandine hugs compiz [15:00] awesome [15:00] we're getting there....places is the big one to get right right now [15:00] * njpatel is working on that now [15:19] wow... managing windows on multiple work spaces seems to have just gotten way better [15:19] it seems to always take me to the right place [15:19] great work guys@! [15:19] whoever fixed that, i love you! === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [15:44] njpatel: something about a launcher API? [15:54] jcastro, it's landing today and tomorrow [15:54] jcastro, but we ahve some design issues to sort out too still [15:54] what accompanying APIs and whatnot? [15:55] ie. when can I tell app authors about it? [15:55] nm, it can wait until next week [15:56] no, its about one piece of functionality [16:08] ivanka, are you free now?... [16:09] multiplatinum: hello hello! No sorry am in a sprint this week. Sorry. [16:09] oh c'mon, I've been trying to ask you something for over 3 weeks [16:22] testing last nux/unity from repository [16:22] it gets frozen [16:22] has anybody else the same problem? [16:22] njpatel, davidbarth ? [16:24] API, does it hang? [16:24] API, I haven't seen that after we fixed libdee [16:24] njpatel, yes [16:25] well I didn't update that library [16:25] so I can test that [16:25] njpatel, are you just using natty packages or I need to compile/isntall it? [16:26] API, natty packages [16:26] njpatel, ok, I will try that, thanks [16:31] lamalex, could you take another look at https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-dx-team/unity/unity.fix-701546-2/+merge/48308 [16:32] MacSlow, sure, let me finish up this block of code [16:32] ok [16:34] didrocks: smspillaz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/KeyboardShortcuts [16:34] FYI [16:35] jcastro: I had a look yesterday at it, I like it :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|afk [16:45] MacSlow|afk, reviewing now [16:47] guys anyone can help with a small problem with empathy after last libindicate update ? [16:51] nmarques, what is the issue? [16:52] kenvandine, with the last release of libindicate, it fails to load. This actually happens also with xchat-indicator. The fail on empathy comes with: [16:52] (empathy:4475): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_variant_builder_end: assertion `!GVSB(builder)->uniform_item_types || GVSB(builder)->prev_item_type != NULL || g_variant_type_is_definite (GVSB(builder)->type)' failed [16:52] kenvandine, this isn't on a ubuntu platform (openSUSE) [16:54] nmarques, yeah, we do have a minor patch applied to our's [16:55] kenvandine, which package is patched? so I can dig it also [16:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/562066/ [16:55] libindicate [16:56] we are about to release a new version though [16:56] which includes that fix [16:56] as well as some other good fixes [16:56] kenvandine, I'll update after release ;) but meanwhile gonna fix this here for some testing [16:57] kenvandine, thanks for your time and help, most appreciated [16:57] np [16:57] nmarques, anytime! === MacSlow|afk is now known as MacSlow === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [17:12] lamalex, awesome... you actually set the merge-proposal-status to "Approved" if you approved it... double thumbs up for that! :) [17:12] lamalex, thanks btw [17:14] MacSlow, I am kind of OCD about that [17:14] it's too confusing when it says needs review but someone did an approving review [17:14] I consider that field the canonical "is this approved or not" status [17:16] lamalex, same with me... I always set it, when I approved something === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [17:43] cyphermox: did your multimonitor panel fix end up working? [17:58] jcastro: on http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/#testingandtriage, you only link the upstream bug trackers where you tell to file against the packages :) [17:58] jcastro: and the packages get of course more bugs filed that upstream only, can you add the packages links? [17:59] ok so do we want both on there? [17:59] or just the one? [18:00] jcastro: as you wish, maybe two will create confusion, so one should be better [18:00] people knowing how to triage will naturally look at upstream [18:00] or maybe put the two… [18:00] ok so the question is, where do you want most of the bugs filed, upstream or yours? [18:00] ok, I'll add something to kind of try to explain it [18:01] jcastro: well, we want people using ubuntu-bug to file a bug and that set it to the distro [18:01] we need to have launchpad for those special case where upstream and a distro is tight [18:02] ok I can just make it say that? [18:02] the people who are experts know about +filebug anyway right? [18:02] actually, the page does say that. [18:03] jcastro: right. I'm more on the Bug Triage part [18:03] jcastro: the links are only upstream ones [18:03] ok, so you want me to add to that then [18:03] I can do that [18:03] thanks jcastro :) [18:05] didrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity [18:05] this page right? [18:05] jcastro: exactly [18:06] so wait a minute, we should replace the old URL with this one right [18:06] because most user reports will come here [18:06] so here's where we need the most help [18:06] right [18:06] then, on the wiki, we can detail maybe [18:06] I try to get them synced as much as possible [18:06] but the workload is quite high [18:07] I don't understand why they have a seperate upstream project [18:08] instead of like the other platform things that just use /ubuntu/+source as the "upstream" project [18:08] so we have one list instead of two [18:10] upstream has different milestones [18:10] that's the only reason I can see [18:41] is someone using NVIDIA drivers? [18:41] with the last x-server packages? [18:42] API: I think the nvidia drivers aren't ready, isn't it? [18:42] API: that what prevents me to upgrade [18:42] well, they were working until i upgrade a hour ago [18:42] ;) [18:42] I should had done the same [18:43] IIRC, there were an email on ubuntu-devel telling "wait" [18:43] urgh, too many mails these days, probably I skipped that [18:43] I will try to downgrade xserver packages [18:44] just checking if someone got that working [18:44] thanks [18:44] yw, good luck! :) [18:45] thanks [18:56] m_conley, thanks for your patch :) [18:56] chrisccoulson: no problem - look ok? [18:56] yeah, it looks good. i'll merge that now [18:56] thanks! [18:56] chrisccoulson: np - I'll take a look at the shortcut keys next. [18:56] thanks [18:57] i might create a team on launchpad and move the trunk branch there, so we can both upload to it [18:58] sounds good === tremolux_ is now known as tremolux [19:04] m_conley, done: https://launchpad.net/~extension-hackers [19:04] trunk is hosted there too [19:05] i couldn't think of a better name for the team ;) [19:05] chrisccoulson: coolbeans - I dig it. [19:30] m_conley, nice, i've got it running in tbird with lightning now :) [19:30] chrisccoulson: awesome! Glad that got fixed. :) [19:31] m_conley, one thing i've noticed is that if you try to compose a new mail, the "Options -> Send a Copy To" submenu appears empty [19:31] i'm nor sure why that is just yet [19:31] *not sure [19:32] hm - i'll take a peek... [19:33] thanks [19:34] i thought it would start working after i handle the menuactive attribute now, but it hasn't had any effect :/ [19:34] chrisccoulson: hm. more odd behaviour - for some reason, the global menu has become disabled for Thunderbird. I can see the options up there, but none of them are responding to click events, and appear disabled. [19:35] and this is after a TB restart too. [19:35] (this occurred after examining Send a Copy To) [19:36] ah, i get that occasionally, i'm not sure why it happens just yet [19:37] for now, try doing "killall unity-panel-service" [19:37] chrisccoulson: do you think this is the extension misbehaving, or unity panel? [19:37] Anyone care to give some python help? I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing wrong but I'm not receiving dbus signals. gdbus monitor says my signal is being fired though [19:37] sometimes it doesn't destroy the menu when a window closes, and then if you open another window that reuses the same XID, it all goes wrong [19:38] m_conley, it's definately a unity bug (or on that side of the stack anyway) [19:38] i need to investigate that [19:39] ok, cool. [19:40] i bet, bamf crashes, and then unity isn't able to figure out that the window closed [19:45] DBO likes to claim that bamf never crashes [19:49] NEVER [19:50] unless it crashed [19:51] chrisccoulson, you would know if bamf crashes [19:52] namely, you owuld suddenly have double icons for every running application [19:53]