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[14:19] <mgariepy> good morning everyone
[14:23] <mhall119> good morning mgariepy
[14:33] <highvoltage> good mornign mhall119
[14:35] <stgraber> hey everyone
[14:35] <stgraber> highvoltage: how's edubuntu doing ? (just got back from family lunch + other stuff ;))
[14:41] <highvoltage> stgraber: I passed amd64 even though it's broken, with notes. it seems like that's what's happening for the amd64 desktop images
[14:49] <stgraber> highvoltage: the webkit issue ?
[14:49] <highvoltage> stgraber: yep
[14:49] <mhall119> webkit :(
[16:10]  * highvoltage gets out of meeting and catches up with *buntu
[16:43] <mhall119> highvoltage: stgraber: you guys seen http://www.phunland.com/wiki/Home ?
[16:43] <mhall119> I played with it for a few minutes, I can see it being very fun
[16:49] <stgraber> nice
[16:50] <stgraber> only issue is that it seems closed source (couldn't find the actual license anywhere)
[16:52] <mhall119> oh is it?
[16:53] <mhall119> ah yeah, seems to be
[16:53] <mhall119> too bad
[16:55] <stgraber> license doesn't seem to allow redistribution either ... so the only hope to get it in Ubuntu would be with special agreement with Canonical and to have it in partner ... we can still link to it though
[19:59] <highvoltage> mhall119: I haven't used xfce in a while, how does memory usage compare to gnome these days? have you done any tests recently?
[20:14] <alkisg> lxde ftw :)
[20:29] <highvoltage> alkisg: well, yes
[21:19]  * Nubae is running xfce on debian, its nice
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[22:09] <mhall119> highvoltage: I haven't done any actual benchmarks, but it it was noticably better than Gnome on 192MB Pentium 2 machines a couple years ago
[22:09] <mhall119> and I haven't noticed Gnome getting lighter or Xfce getting heavier
[22:10] <mhall119> AlanBell: Lxde is definitely lighter, but it's not as polished and well integrated
[22:11] <highvoltage> mhall119: yes, I ran tests a few years back and xfce was clearly better on LTSP at that stage
[22:12] <highvoltage> mhall119: but gnome has gotten a *lot* better since then and it would be nice to have a newer comparison
[22:15] <Nubae> not ram wise though, there is a big difference
[22:16] <Nubae> gnome wont run on less than 256mb these days
[22:18] <Nubae> highvoltage is there any interest in getting sugar running on ubuntu? most of the build utilities have moved to osb, not sure if that would be acceptable for ubuntu?
[22:24] <highvoltage> mhall119: found my old comparisons, but by now this is really ancient :) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-devel/2005-September/000537.html
[22:24] <highvoltage> Nubae: If there's interest I haven't really seen it
[22:25] <Nubae> yah me neither, just that email by caroline meeks
[22:25] <Nubae> shame
[22:27] <highvoltage> mhall119: so in 2005 a plain gnome session used more than 27MB per client when 27 users were logged in. with xfce it was less than 10MB. that's quite a significant difference :)