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claydoh_Riddell: belated ping I just got home from work, dealing with snowstorms means I work looong day to cover part of the skeleton crew we have to have :(01:23
* claydoh_ was supposed to be home almost 6 hrs ago01:24
claydoh_ill see if I can get something right now01:24
claydoh_anyone awake? I kinda need to know what's new for natty alpha 2 :/ 02:07
=== claydoh_ is now known as claydoh
claydohbesides kde 4.6 goodness, of course02:07
ScottKmaco: There are options not to delete the build result (see man pbuilder) or you can pbuilder login02:53
RiddellQuintasan: did you get kamoso packaged?09:46
Riddellhow's this? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NattyNarwhal/Alpha2/Kubuntu11:51
ejatthumb up :)11:52
ryanakcaScottK: How's http://paste.ubuntu.com/561906/ ? I think the second clause in the very last sentence is a bit awkward.12:49
ryanakcaRiddell: Very nice :)12:50
apacheloggergreat13:07
apacheloggerno l10n import flood from launchpad, but bug expired flood13:08
apachelogger\o/13:08
apacheloggeroh13:08
apacheloggerand importance changes? :O13:09
apacheloggerwah?13:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: launchpad devs work very hard to a) spam our inboxes and b) making bzr use insane amounts of memory13:14
apacheloggerjolly nice13:14
ejat:)13:17
c2tarunhi13:18
shadeslayeroh hai c2tarun13:19
c2tarunhi shadeslayer :) how are u?13:19
shadeslayergood :) ... what about you?13:19
c2tarunme too. :)13:19
shadeslayerc2tarun: coming to conf.kde.org?13:19
shadeslayerum13:19
shadeslayers/org/in13:19
c2tarunshadeslayer: what is it?13:19
shadeslayerc2tarun: its a KDE Conference in India 13:20
c2tarunINDIA?? any link about more info?13:20
shadeslayerc2tarun: http://conf.kde.in/13:20
shadeslayerc2tarun: yep ... im from India as well ;)13:20
c2tarunshadeslayer: grt :) where is this conf in india?13:21
shadeslayerc2tarun: bengaluru13:21
c2taruncan anyone come?13:21
shadeslayeryes13:21
shadeslayeryou just need to register13:21
c2tarunsure i'll register :) but i dont have any credit card for payment :( how can i pay?13:22
Nightrosec2tarun: i think you can register and then pay in cash at the event13:23
c2tarunNightrose: that's is AWESOME, i'll surely come :)13:23
Nightrosegreat :)13:23
* shadeslayer timed out13:24
shadeslayeri do hate my ISP ... cant even IRC properly now -.-13:25
ejatbengaluru is nearest to ? 13:26
shadeslayerejat: its a city in itself :P13:26
shadeslayerformerly known as Bangalore 13:27
ejatowh .. bangalore change its name ? 13:27
ejatwhen was that .. 13:27
shadeslayerquite some time ago13:27
ejatshadeslayer: u go to the ubuntu developer day ? 13:28
shadeslayerejat: nope ... i cant go to bengaluru for a one day trip :P13:28
shadeslayerim in Gurgaon :D13:28
ejatowh ... 13:28
ejatif its bengaluru = bangalore ... so i hope i can go .. 13:28
ejatbecause got flight direct to there .. 13:29
c2tarunI registered. :)13:30
ejati need to check the nearest accomodation there .. 13:31
apacheloggershadeslayer: use a train robot, see facebook13:32
apacheloggermost efficient13:32
c2tarunejat: I also need to check the nearest accomodation. how can i do that?13:32
=== apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - We only have hugs of medium importance| Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | alpha 2 bugs http://goo.gl/yGhJd | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
c2tarunshadeslayer: u r in gurgao? how will u go then train or flight?13:33
=== apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - We only have hugs of medium importance | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | alpha 2 bugs http://goo.gl/yGhJd | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
ejatwhat i do is ... open google earth n check the nearest hotel there or check website what hotel available in bangalore.. 13:36
apacheloggermaps.google.com13:36
ejat:)13:37
apacheloggerkubotu: do you haz maps?13:37
apacheloggerkubotu: maps bangalore13:37
apacheloggerapparently nt13:37
apacheloggerinsanity had that13:37
ejat:)13:37
ejatneed to add the feature into it .. 13:37
apacheloggereasy enough13:38
shadeslayerc2tarun: flight13:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: train robot? O_O13:39
apacheloggerjussi: did you find the old init.d file for kubottu btw?13:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: make kubotu join #project-neon plz13:39
apacheloggershadeslayer: it is a large beast, looking very scary13:39
apacheloggerand it is incredibly loud13:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: is it pink?13:39
apacheloggerwell, not if you are sitting in its belly13:39
* shadeslayer opens13:39
apacheloggerwell13:39
apacheloggernot *as* loud13:39
apacheloggerstill quite noisey13:40
apacheloggerkubotu: join #project-noon13:40
shadeslayerhahaha :D13:40
shadeslayerno kubotu13:41
shadeslayersigh ... flipping idiotic router13:41
shadeslayer64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=2 ttl=63 time=69.4 ms13:41
shadeslayer:|13:41
shadeslayerFFFFUUUUUUU....13:43
apacheloggerkubotu: rescan13:46
kubotusaving ...13:46
kuboturescanning ...13:46
apacheloggerkubotu: part #project-noon13:46
kubotudone. 10 core modules loaded; 52 plugins loaded; 33 plugins ignored; 2 plugins failed to load13:46
apacheloggerkubotu: join #project-neon13:46
apacheloggermap bangalore13:46
apacheloggerkubotu: map bangalore13:46
apacheloggerI must have done something wrong ^^13:47
RiddellWindows is insanely bad13:59
Riddelltook me 15 minutes to work out how to connect to my wireless after I changed my password13:59
ScottKryanakca: How about http://paste.ubuntu.com/561946/ (with a nice Debian swirl)?14:02
apacheloggerhm14:02
apacheloggerkubotu: rescan14:02
kubotusaving ...14:02
kuboturescanning ...14:02
kubotudone. 10 core modules loaded; 53 plugins loaded; 33 plugins ignored; 1 plugin failed to load14:02
apacheloggerRiddell: the average windows user does not change the wireless password14:02
apacheloggerkubotu: map prater, vienna, austria14:02
* kubotu http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=prater,+vienna,+austria14:02
apacheloggerthat is bogus ^^14:03
apacheloggerkubotu: rescan14:03
kubotusaving ...14:03
kuboturescanning ...14:03
kubotudone. 10 core modules loaded; 53 plugins loaded; 33 plugins ignored; 1 plugin failed to load14:03
apacheloggerkubotu: map prater, vienna, austria14:03
kubotuhttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=prater,+vienna,+austria14:03
apacheloggerarr, there we go14:04
apacheloggerkubotu: map hotels, bangalore, india14:04
kubotuhttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=hotels,+bangalore,+india14:04
apacheloggerejat: ^14:04
apachelogger:P14:04
* apachelogger thinks one could do that using an in-memory script too but forgot how to do that14:04
=== jjesse_ is now known as jjesse
ScottKTm_T: Did you ever get a chance to test the powerpc Alpha 2 image?14:21
Tm_TScottK: actually not until now, going to start the download14:22
Tm_Tbeen hectic week in home here14:22
ScottKCool.14:22
ScottKUnderstand.14:22
Tm_TScottK: uh, throw me with a link, please14:27
ScottKTm_T: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20110202/natty-desktop-powerpc.iso14:28
Tm_Tthanks, today isn't my day14:33
* Riddell declares tomorrow to be Tm_T day14:34
Tm_Tindeed, because tomorrow isn't thursday14:35
QuintasanRiddell: yes I did, http://paste.kde.org/404414:38
QuintasanRiddell: please review before I upload this14:38
RiddellQuintasan: looking good, go for it14:39
QuintasanScottK: ping14:39
Tm_Tas a bit humourish bit for this evening, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=KDE_e.V.&diff=411784969&oldid=41178040314:40
=== shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_
RiddellI wonder how many other Ade de Groots there are in Wikipaedia14:42
QuintasanRiddell: Uploaded14:42
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ScottKQuintasan: pong.14:43
QuintasanScottK: Have some time? I'm free to do this arm box stuff14:44
Tm_TRiddell: I actually checked the date of the death of this chess player just to make sure he cannot be the one, somehow being dead over 3 years doesn't make him eligible for being E.V. vice president14:44
ScottKQuintasan: sure.14:44
ScottKQuintasan: I need an ssh public key first.14:44
ScottKQuintasan: Or not.  I can't seem to connect to the box.  We had a power loss yesterday, so maybe something went south overnight.14:45
QuintasanOh14:45
apacheloggerQuintasan: do we have bangarang 2.0 yet?15:02
QuintasanI think c2tarun was doing that with Riddell yesterday15:02
Riddellno we were doing bluedevil15:04
QuintasanHmm.15:04
QuintasanOkay15:04
QuintasanCan do15:04
ryanakcaScottK: Sounds good :)15:04
ryanakcaapachelogger: I have bangarang packages ready for Debian, they're just pending 4.5.0 getting uploaded to unstable15:04
apacheloggerQuintasan: c2tarun was doing them15:05
apacheloggershouldn't you know about that?!!?!15:05
Quintasanryanakca: awesome15:05
Quintasanapachelogger: Shouldn't you start working as well at some point?15:06
Quintasan:P15:06
tsimpsonsoo much LP spam...15:06
apacheloggerQuintasan: I brought up padawans to become minions when you were still playing the counter strike...15:07
ryanakcaQuintasan: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-kde/kde-extras/bangarang.git ... I haven't gotten it to build on unstable (won't build without 4.5.0), but you or I can fix the version/distribution line in changelog and try uploading to a PPA15:07
QuintasanI can do it.15:07
apacheloggerryanakca: it will run like the shi without 4.6 actually15:07
ryanakcaQuintasan: Alright, thanks15:08
Quintasanapachelogger: I didnt play counter strike at any point in my life15:08
Quintasan^_^15:08
apacheloggeras nepomuk in 4.6 has curcial fixes for bangarang use cases15:08
ryanakcaapachelogger: *nod*15:08
ryanakcaQuintasan: Oh. Hm. Just a sec, I fear I pushed the packaging to the debian-multimedia branch, I'll push to the pkg-kde-extras one.15:09
Quintasanryanakca: Pushed?15:16
ryanakcaQuintasan: Hm. Let me get back to you on that, it looks as if I had the packaging in two different remote branches, one set on my desktop, the other on my netbook, and that they've diverged. Rebasing.15:16
Quintasanoh, okay, ping me when done15:16
c2tarunhi friends, any packaging job today?15:28
Riddellhi c2tarun 15:29
Riddellsure, see http://goo.gl/yGhJd15:29
Riddellsplitting up kalgebra for example15:29
Riddellor that kdevelop one15:29
Riddelloh and you were going to backport bluedevil15:29
c2tarunhi Riddell, let me check :) I wanna do it.15:29
c2tarunRiddell: A company came to my college for campus drive, so i was busy today :) i'll do it tonight. by the way are u coming to conf.kde.in?15:31
Riddellyes I'll be coming to conf.kde.in15:32
tazzc2tarun, yes he is coming.15:32
c2tarungreat :) Riddell: kalgebra bug is in progress, can i work on bug 68665015:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 686650 in kdeedu (Ubuntu) "newer libindi needed for kdeedu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68665015:33
ryanakcaQuintasan: class is starting, I'll get back to you in a bit.15:33
ScottKQuintasan: Around?  Arm box is fixed.15:36
ScottKWhich package gets Kubuntu slide show bugs?15:42
c2tarunRiddell: yesterday i pulled previous version of bluedevil from LP but now there is new version there?15:44
RiddellScottK: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu15:44
ScottKRiddell: Thanks.15:44
Riddellc2tarun: yes should be, see launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluedevil15:44
c2tarunRiddell: so all i need to do is download the deb file and install it on my system for checking? right15:45
Riddellc2tarun: no you need to recompile the source in a maverick pbuilder15:47
c2tarunRiddell: ok, I'll do that and reply then :)15:47
QuintasanScottK: I'll be back in 20 min or so15:48
ScottKOK15:48
QuintasanScottK: back16:01
c2tarunwhat is mean by this error? "Maintainer email is set to an @lists.ubuntu.com address - doing nothing."16:01
Quintasanc2tarun: Maintainers in Ubuntu are usually certain groups, like Kubuntu Developers, Ubuntu MOTU Developers etc.16:02
Quintasanc2tarun: and we use mailing lists when asking for something to be done with a package16:03
c2tarunQuintasan: do u know how to add a watch file?16:04
Quintasandepends on upstream16:04
ScottKQuintasan: OK.  I need an ssh public key16:04
QuintasanScottK: Is it safe enough to pastebin it or you want me to email it?16:04
Quintasanc2tarun: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-dother.en.html#s-watch16:05
ScottKQuintasan: Pastebin is fine.  It's the public key.16:05
QuintasanScottK: http://paste.kde.org/405716:05
c2tarunQuintasan: ok, i was working on bluedevil application and I found there that watch file is missing, I packed a package in morning and placed it in REVU and first error i got is watch file missing. How can a package be in our archive without a watch file?16:05
QuintasanSometimes you can16:05
Quintasancan't do a watch file16:06
c2tarunQuintasan: how can we know that we can or can't do watch?16:06
Quintasanc2tarun: like, svn or git stuff16:07
c2tarunQuintasan: git means?16:07
Quintasanc2tarun: git is a control version system16:07
Quintasanc2tarun: you would do it via get-orig-source in debian/rules instead of watch file16:08
Quintasanhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Examples/ChangingTheOrigTarball16:08
Quintasanc2tarun: the watch file is OPTIONAL but recommended16:09
c2tarunQuintasan: can u please look on bug 710347 once.16:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 710347 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] schedio" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71034716:09
c2tarunQuintasan: Can we create the watch file?16:09
Quintasanc2tarun: This project is hosted on Launchpad16:11
Quintasanc2tarun: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/2114616:11
Quintasanc2tarun: I don't know if they will work16:13
Quintasanc2tarun: I think you can do just fine without an watch file16:13
c2tarunQuintasan: sure :) i'll upload on REVU again and tell micagh that we can do fine without a watch :)16:14
c2tarunQuintasan: Thanks :)16:14
QuintasanHuh? Give me the REVU link16:14
c2tarunQuintasan: ya wait.16:15
c2tarunQuintasan: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/schedio there are also two more errors, i removed them, just waiting for a way to write a watch file. :)16:16
Quintasanmy Mother just recorded a short thing from BBC, some lady had 1st edition of Hobbit by J.R.R Tolkien and she "lost" it for almost 50 years16:19
c2tarunQuintasan: ??16:20
Quintasanc2tarun: look, about the watch file16:20
Quintasanc2tarun: even lintian marks it as Severity: wishlist16:20
Quintasanc2tarun: please reupload the fixed version to REVU16:20
Quintasanc2tarun: so I can check this16:20
c2tarunQuintasan: shall i upload the fixed version right now? and where to look about the watch file?16:21
Quintasanc2tarun: What do you want to know about watch file?16:21
c2tarunQuintasan: i'll upload the package without watch file, Can this be approved?16:22
Quintasanc2tarun: YES, the watch file is OPTIONAL (means it is not necessary) but recommended16:22
Quintasanhttp://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianwatch16:22
Quintasanand http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-dother.en.html#s-watch16:22
Quintasanread it16:22
Quintasanc2tarun: Most things are explained in http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html16:23
QuintasanTrust me, I would have saved much more time if I actually read it when I started :/16:23
c2tarunsaved time by reading  :(16:23
QuintasanPossible. :D16:24
Quintasanc2tarun: ping me when you have uploaded16:25
c2tarunQuintasan: ok i'll read it :) i did it actually :)16:25
Quintasanc2tarun: Then read the watch file part, it says it is optional :)16:26
c2tarunQuintasan: sure till then can u please look at my upload?16:26
Quintasanc2tarun: Did you fix the Maintainer field?16:27
c2tarunQuintasan: yup16:27
c2tarunQuintasan: but i dont know how to look at my upload? :( very sorry, can u please give me the link16:27
Quintasanhttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/schedio16:28
Quintasanhere is your upload16:28
Quintasanc2tarun: in debian/control: Section field is wrong, should be "utils" instead of "utilities"16:29
c2tarunQuintasan: still I am getting that maintainer error, why ?16:30
QuintasanPriority: optional has a space at the end.16:30
c2tarunQuintasan: space :/ this is also an error :( u guys are really expert :(16:31
QuintasanThose are just minor problems,  I could fix it myself but I'm telling you so you avoid that next time16:32
c2tarunQuintasan: ok, i'll fix it :). any more suggestions?16:32
c2tarunQuintasan: NO, i'll fix it so that i may remember it next time :)16:32
Quintasanc2tarun: Section is wrong as I said earlier16:33
Quintasanc2tarun: and the Maintainer, set it to: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>16:33
Quintasanand put your name under XBSC-Original-Maintainer16:33
c2tarunQuintasan: but motu developers should include motu members, and I am not a motu16:34
Quintasanc2tarun: You are not, but MOTU members maintain the packages in there16:34
Quintasanc2tarun: So until you become a one I will just review your package and upload them16:35
Quintasanc2tarun: I might want to rephrase that since it makes me look like I take the credit for your work16:35
c2tarunQuintasan: ok so 1. Section is wrong, 2. Maintainer section and 3. The space after optional?16:35
Quintasanyus16:36
QuintasanSection should be "utils"16:36
QuintasanYou made it a bit longer :P16:36
c2tarunthanks i'll fix it and upload it soon :)16:36
ScottKQuintasan: We don't use Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com> anymore.  Both Main and Universe should be Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>16:38
QuintasanOh. Okay16:39
Quintasanc2tarun: What ScottK said16:39
c2tarunQuintasan: ya got it.16:39
c2tarunQuintasan: in maintainer as scott said and in XBSC-* my name?16:39
c2tarunQuintasan: right?16:39
QuintasanYup16:40
c2tarunQuintasan: i am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/562063/16:42
agateauRiddell: ping16:42
Quintasanc2tarun: dput -f revu <changes.file>16:42
c2tarunQuintasan: you mean dput -f revu *.source.changes16:43
c2tarun?16:43
Quintasanc2tarun: just add the -f to the command you used to upload16:43
Quintasanc2tarun: it will force the upload16:43
Quintasanc2tarun: there should be a *.revu.upload file on your PC in the same directory as well16:44
Riddellhi agateau 16:44
c2tarunQuintasan: its uploaded can u please check?16:44
c2tarunQuintasan: I don't have any such file? why so?16:44
agateauRiddell: I have a new somewhat unstable release of libindicate-qt, waiting for packages16:44
c2tarunQuintasan: ya i have :)16:44
Quintasanc2tarun: If you remove it then dput will work without -f16:45
agateauRiddell: it is unstable as in most unit-tests fail, but the problem comes from libindicate, and ted plans to address them16:45
agateauRiddell: so for now I released in a separate series: https://launchpad.net/libindicate-qt/libindicate-0.516:45
Riddellagateau: but good enough for natty?16:46
agateauRiddell: good enough for the current state of natty I would say16:46
c2tarunQuintasan: I uploaded it again, can u please check it?16:46
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Quintasanchecking16:47
Quintasanc2tarun: urgh the license is not ther16:48
Quintasanc2tarun: You should ask UPSTREAM to update their sources with the text of the license in a filed named COPYING16:49
c2tarunQuintasan: sorry not getting what are you trying to say?16:49
c2tarunQuintasan: can u please explain a bit.16:49
Quintasanc2tarun: The debian/copyright says the stuff is licensed on GPL16:50
c2tarunQuintasan: ya so?16:50
Quintasanc2tarun: but packaging policy requires the WHOLE license to be shipped WITH the source code16:50
c2tarunQuintasan: hmm.. can't we add it by ourselves? why bother the one in upstream?16:51
Quintasanc2tarun: That would require repacking the source and should be avoided unless REALLY necessary16:52
Quintasanc2tarun: I'm sure if you email one of the authors (https://launchpad.net/~tnedel) they would include it16:52
ScottKTm_T: Get a chance to take the powerpc ISO for a spin?16:53
c2tarunQuintasan: ya but in asking the upstream a whole day will be wasted when the work can be complete in few hours.16:53
Quintasanc2tarun: Hmm, he did not provide an email16:53
c2tarunQuintasan: don't know, i contacted them once from their launchpad page.16:53
Tm_TScottK: nope, have to wait that the ibook is free from my wife's use (:16:54
ScottKOK16:54
Quintasanc2tarun: It's policy, I know it is sometimes boring but you have try to contact them. This will just save some time in future16:55
c2tarunQuintasan: but i don't understand one thing, since I created the debian folder I am responsible for putting the complete license in there. am i right?16:56
Quintasanc2tarun: How did you contact them? I can't find any email16:56
c2tarunQuintasan: click on contact this user :)16:56
Quintasanc2tarun: nope, the SOURCE TARBALL itself has to contain the COPYING file with the license inside16:57
c2tarunQuintasan: ok, then i didn't did anychanges into tarball, all i did with the debian folder. So we should contact them :)16:58
Quintasanc2tarun: Just wait for him to reply, I'm sure the will include it16:58
c2tarunQuintasan: you mailed them?16:58
Quintasanc2tarun: I did not, I thought you said you emailed him16:58
c2tarunQuintasan: ok i'll :)16:59
Quintasanc2tarun: Watch file is wrong17:00
QuintasanI think it doesn't work17:00
tazzc2tarun, shadeslayer where does pbuilder put the tar file after you run the command  "sudo pbuilder create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd"17:00
tazzgot it nevermind :p17:01
shadeslayertazz: the path that you've specified in pbuilderrc17:01
shadeslayer:P17:01
c2taruntazz: check in var/cache/pbuilder17:01
yofeltazz: at $BASETGZ, /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz by default17:01
tazzshadeslayer, i dont have one. Will have to research and optimize.17:01
tazz/var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz17:01
shadeslayerwell17:01
shadeslayertazz: http://paste.kde.org/406817:02
shadeslayermake changes accordingly17:02
c2tarunQuintasan: I created it in experimentation and forgot to remove :( very sorry17:02
Quintasanc2tarun: I think it would be fine if the /v(.+)/ was fixed17:02
Quintasanit expands to something strange17:02
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c2tarunQuintasan: i wrote that according to https://launchpad.net/schedio/trunk/v<version number>/+download/schedio_<version number>.tar.gz17:05
c2tarunQuintasan: check on the link https://launchpad.net/schedio/trunk17:05
Quintasanc2tarun: just skip the watch file altogether for now17:08
Quintasanthe bug says there is no sensible way to use it :/17:08
Quintasanafiestas: kamoso uploaded17:09
Quintasanafiestas: if you can, please check if I haven't missed something17:10
afiestasQuintasan: F*** yeah! :p we need a looot of testing  :p17:10
afiestasI have still 1.0.5 in my apt17:10
afiestaswhere can I see it?17:10
Quintasanafiestas: natty?17:10
afiestasyes17:11
Quintasanafiestas: update the repos17:11
c2tarunQuintasan: don't know how but an unwnated .copyright.swp file suddenly came into my debian folder? why so?17:11
Quintasansome vim magic17:11
Quintasanc2tarun: just remove it17:11
Quintasanafiestas: HERP DERP crashes when using settings17:12
QuintasanI must have missed something17:12
RiddellQuintasan: kamoso still depends on vlc17:12
QuintasanRiddell: it shouldn't?17:13
Quintasanafiestas: http://paste.kde.org/407117:13
Quintasanafiestas: anything I have missed?17:13
RiddellQuintasan: I can't see why it should, it uses qtgstreamer now17:14
Riddellafiestas: kamoso shouldn't depend on vlc right?17:14
Riddellafiestas: it works!17:17
Quintasanafiestas: so, I'm removing vlc stuff from deps, blame me since I forgot to do it17:17
Riddellbut it doesn't fit on my netbook screen17:17
QuintasanRiddell: can you enter Settings?17:17
RiddellQuintasan: yes (also don't fit on screen by default)17:18
Quintasan...17:18
Quintasannot sure why but it crashes here17:18
QuintasanRiddell: amd64?17:20
Riddellno17:20
Quintasanhmm, something is clearly wrong here17:21
Quintasanafiestas: are you running an amd64 box?17:21
afiestasaaha, updated17:21
afiestas1seg17:21
afiestasQuintasan: yes I'm let me install and test it17:22
afiestasmmm 17:23
afiestasapt-get install kamoso17:23
afiestas konqueror konqueror-nsplugins <-- why these are going to be installed'17:23
afiestas?17:23
Quintasansomething has to be pulling em17:24
Riddellkipi-plugins recommends it17:24
Riddellthat should be fixed17:24
afiestasvls is not needed anymore just to confirm it17:24
Quintasanafiestas: and IIRC you said kipi-plugins would be a good Recommend :)17:24
afiestasyes yes, kipi-plugins are, but konqueror/konqueror-nsplugin aren't17:25
afiestashttps://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/multimedia/kamoso <-- this is the website now17:25
afiestas(kde-apps won' tbe updated, at least not by us)17:25
QuintasanRiddell: do we want to change kipi-plugins or not?17:25
Riddellyes17:26
QuintasanGetting to it17:26
Quintasanafiestas: well if you are running an amd64 please try entering Settings17:26
QuintasanOoops17:27
Quintasan:O17:27
afiestasgot a kernel panic :/17:28
afiestasthe package seems to work17:28
Quintasanfrom Kamoso? :O17:28
afiestaswhat I dont' see in the desc file is any runtime dependency17:28
Quintasangstreamer0.10-plugins-base and gstreamer0.10-plugins-good17:28
Quintasananything else?17:28
Quintasanafiestas: AMD64?17:28
afiestasnope, should work 17:28
afiestasyes AMD6417:29
afiestasLinux MiNiBaD 2.6.38-1-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 28 15:26:43 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:29
Quintasanand entering Settings works for you?17:29
Quintasanafiestas: ^17:30
afiestasyes17:30
afiestascan you send me the backtrace?17:30
afiestasKamoso 2.0 has been tested only in 7 environments, so we need a loot of testing to be able to work everywhere17:30
Quintasanafiestas: drkonqi says backtrace not useful though I have debugging stuff installed17:31
Quintasanlet me update my box17:31
Riddellafiestas: where do I report bugs? b.k.o?17:34
Quintasanafiestas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56209117:34
Quintasanafiestas: It is probably not useful17:34
QuintasanDunno which debug libs I need17:35
afiestasQuintasan: terminal output will be usefull too17:36
afiestasRiddell: yes17:37
afiestasQuintasan: that bt is weird, can you rm -rf .kde/share/config/kamoso* ?17:37
Quintasanafiestas: still same thing17:39
afiestasQuintasan:  terminal output?17:39
Quintasanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/56209517:40
Quintasannothing much17:40
afiestaskdebugdialog <-- enable Kamoso output17:40
Quintasanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/562096/17:41
Quintasanafiestas: I can't say I found kamoso stuff in kdebugdialog :(17:42
Quintasanoh wait17:42
afiestasRiddell: any recommended size?17:44
Riddellafiestas: well I think the limiting factor is the size of the webcam image, and it should scale to whatever size is needed17:45
afiestasmm, agreed17:46
afiestasI will try to get that fixed for the next release17:46
Riddellmost good of you :)17:47
Quintasanhmm17:47
Quintasanafiestas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/56209817:49
QuintasanI can't get anything more17:49
Quintasankdebugdialog has EVERYTHING selected T_T17:49
afiestasthere is not even a single line from webcamwidget, which is really odd17:50
Quintasanwait17:50
Quintasanwait wait wait17:50
Quintasanmaybe it is because I didn't plug in my webcam?17:50
Quintasan:O17:50
afiestashttp://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=56825 <-- this is more like it 17:50
afiestasoh, we should handle that anyway17:50
afiestasbut now I can see why it may crash17:51
Quintasanafiestas: not with a crash :P17:51
afiestasthe webcamwidget stuff is before the WhiteWidgetManager stuff17:51
afiestasand your log doesn't have anything before WhiteWidgetManager :p17:51
Quintasanoh yes17:52
QuintasanI plugged that damn thing in17:52
Quintasanand it works17:52
Quintasanafiestas: poor handling of no camera :)17:52
afiestascan you report a bug?17:52
afiestaswe did test that kamoso didn't crash withotu camera, we just did not the KCM :p17:53
Quintasanhow do I test the camera?17:54
QuintasanI dunno if it even works :/17:54
afiestaswhat do you mean?17:56
afiestaskamoso is not showing anything?17:56
c2tarunRiddell: ping18:12
Riddellhi c2tarun 18:12
tazzhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging has duplication. Grep for "grantlee"18:13
tazzdo i correct it ?18:13
Riddelltazz: it's a wiki, edit :)18:13
tazzok cool.18:14
c2tarunRiddell: i just compiled the bluedevil and .deb file wil be ready in few minutes. I will test it on my system, i just wanted to know if anything goes wrong from where can i get the older version?18:14
Riddellc2tarun: you can just remove bluedevil then reinstall18:18
Riddellsudo apt-get remove bluedevil; sudo apt-get install bluedevil18:18
c2tarunRiddell: ok thanks :) i'll let you know as soon as i'll check it 18:18
kshadeslayerIt's Launchpad Bug tracker spam day!18:22
kshadeslayeryayy18:22
c2tarunRiddell: new version of bluedevil working fine as its previous version, I checked it by browsing my cellphone and with my bluetooth headset. I was able to access my cellphone from it and my headset was neither working with previous version nor with this one ;) so its fine 18:26
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c2tarunRiddell: ping18:32
kshadeslayernight all :)18:45
kshadeslayertazz: whatcha doing? :D18:45
kshadeslayeralso18:46
kshadeslayertazz: i claim you for Project Neon18:46
tazzkshadeslayer, planning to edit the wiki18:46
tazzkshadeslayer, my first todo thing would be to build amarok.18:46
tazzso that i can atleast rebuild my library.18:46
kshadeslayertazz: right .. gather some packaging skillz then i teach you how to package forneon :D18:46
kshadeslayer*for neon18:46
tazzthat was the reason i landed here XD18:47
kshadeslayer:D18:47
kshadeslayerhmm18:47
kshadeslayerQuintasan: yofel we need a motto/tag line for neon18:47
kshadeslayerbetter than our current one18:47
tazzhow about "We will.... We will... Break you!"18:48
kshadeslayerhehehe .. 18:48
tazzsing it fi5ve style18:48
yofeltazz: we thought about that already, not broken enough18:48
tazzXD18:48
yofelthe slogan I mean18:48
tazzoh ok then... to beta and beyond!18:48
kshadeslayertazz: we work too hard ... sadly it works somewhat18:48
kshadeslayerwe won't ever move past alpha :P18:49
Riddellc2tarun: great18:49
Riddellc2tarun: now you need to file a bug at launchpad.net/maverick-backports18:49
Riddellrequesting the backport and including the build log18:49
tazzok, kshadeslayer i'll contact you after i have this dbuild stuff down18:50
c2tarunRiddell: do u want to check the build log once?18:50
kshadeslayerdbuild? O_O18:52
c2tarunkshadeslayer: hey Riddell seems to be busy now, can you please tell me which build log file we have to upload when requesting for a backport?18:53
* yofel wonders if tazz meant debuild18:53
kshadeslayerc2tarun: what did you run?18:53
c2tarunpbuilder-dist maverick build *.changes18:53
kshadeslayeralright18:53
kshadeslayerc2tarun: so in the dir which has your orig.tar.gz you'll have a file named foo.log18:54
kshadeslayerwhere foo can be anything18:54
c2tarunnope but in pbuilder's result folder I have a log file "last_operation.log"18:55
kshadeslayerill bbiab18:55
c2tarunkshadeslayer: ^^18:55
yofelthat'll probably be it18:56
yofelwe have a different pbuilder setup from you so it's named differently18:56
c2tarunyofel: can you check it once please?18:59
yofelcheck what?19:00
c2tarunyofel: that build log file which i have to upload with the bug report.19:00
yofelc2tarun: the build log of the maverick package build19:01
c2tarunyofel: yup19:01
yofelso?19:01
c2tarunyofel: please wait a sec19:01
yofelc2tarun: if you mean check what filename it is, I don't know since I don't use pbuilder-dist19:02
c2tarunyofel: ok no prob :) just check this link https://bugs.launchpad.net/maverick-backports/+bug/712678 and pleas tell me what to do now?19:03
ubottuUbuntu bug 712678 in maverick-backports "Request for backport of newer version of bluedevil" [Undecided,New]19:03
yofelc2tarun: the full read here is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#How%20to%20request%20new%20packages, I'll look over it19:06
yofelthe log looks right19:06
c2tarunyofel: thanks :)19:08
c2tarunyofel: who can add the package to backport?19:08
yofelsomeone on the backports team19:09
yofelScottK: ^19:09
c2tarunyofel: I got to go, its 1AM here and I need some sleep, will you leat any member of the backports team know when they come in?19:14
yofelc2tarun: Scott is a member ;)19:15
c2tarunyofel: but he seems to be busy :(19:15
yofelwell, you would have to go to some #ubuntu-* channel to look for the other ones19:16
c2tarunyofel: hmm... that seems to be a long task, I am feeling sleepy :( i'll look for them tomorrow. Thanks :)19:17
c2tarunbye everyone :)19:17
yofelsure, gn19:17
tazzsee ya19:17
apacheloggerQuintasan: did you and c2tarun get bangarang sorted yet?19:30
Quintasanapachelogger: I think not yet19:30
* apachelogger needs it for fosdem :S19:30
QuintasanI told him to give me a debdiff and diff -Nru between debians but he disappeared off to bed19:30
Quintasanapachelogger: in how many days it starts?19:30
apacheloggersaturday19:30
Quintasanapachelogger: I will do this tomorrow19:30
* apachelogger unsubscribes from kubuntu-bugs19:30
apacheloggerQuintasan: cheers19:30
apacheloggerRiddell: maybe qt-language-selector should be a kcm?19:35
apacheloggerSystem Language19:35
afiestasQuintasan: finally was it working for you?20:09
Quintasanafiestas: kamoso works20:10
Quintasanbut my cam seems to be broken20:10
afiestascan you eexecute20:12
afiestas"gst-launch camerabin" ?20:12
afiestasjust to be sure that is not Kamoso fault :p20:12
sheytanQuintasan: ping20:38
JontheEchidnamissing a dependency? http://paste.ubuntu.com/562205/20:41
JontheEchidna(for kamoso)20:41
apacheloggerdid anyone see my passport?20:42
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: you must read the mail from afiestas :P20:43
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: I would assume Quintasan's package would have all dependencies :P20:43
apacheloggeror your gst registry is the broken or out of date or both *oh my*20:43
JontheEchidnaunles its....20:43
JontheEchidnaFAULTY SOFTWARE20:43
JontheEchidna:P20:43
apacheloggerack20:43
JontheEchidnalooks like it needs gstreamer0.10-x20:44
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: ^20:44
JontheEchidnahttp://i.imgur.com/bIlet.png20:45
JontheEchidnaoh20:45
apacheloggerkamoso causes a state of happyness as one can observe20:45
JontheEchidnamy ride home is here20:45
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: o/20:46
JontheEchidna\o20:46
JontheEchidnabbiab20:46
apacheloggeralso kamoso does not work on the maverick because the qtgst does not compile ont he maverick20:46
apacheloggersuffice to say that causes a state of sadness on my part20:46
afiestasapachelogger: :/ why doesn't compile?20:46
apacheloggertoo old gst20:46
apacheloggerIIRC20:46
apacheloggerthen again the reqired one needs to be incredibly new and has the bugz with the phonon20:47
afiestasin Natty I'm using the Gst Phonon backend and it works well20:48
apacheloggerwell, someone had an odd crash with it20:49
apacheloggeractually an assert that behaves critical in ubuntu for whatever reason20:49
* apachelogger does not see how that assert would fail anyway, but oh my20:50
apacheloggerleave it to glib to pull weird stuff :P20:50
apacheloggerNightrose, Riddell, seaLne: when are you arriving in the city of rue-de-$deadKing btw?20:51
Nightroseapachelogger: 13 something i think20:52
Nightrosethen desktop summit meeting20:52
apacheloggeralways them secret meetings I am not invited to :(20:52
* apachelogger is arriving somewhat 14ish20:52
Nightrose*ug*20:52
Nightrose*hug even20:52
* apachelogger reugs Nightrose ^^20:53
apacheloggerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55e-uHQna0&feature=player_embedded20:53
apacheloggerNightrose: I want such a costume20:53
apachelogger!!!!!!!20:54
apacheloggerpretty pretty plz20:54
Nightroseno!20:54
apacheloggermeh!20:54
apacheloggerbut I want one!!!!!!!!!20:54
* Nightrose is afraid of what you'd do then20:56
Nightroseaaaaaanyways20:56
Nightrosei have to pack my back20:56
Nightrose*bag20:56
* apachelogger just read "pet my back"20:56
apacheloggerI was confused there for a second or two20:56
Nightrosethat too :P20:56
apacheloggeroh my20:56
apacheloggerulysses: do you haz darts invaders costums in the land of gulyas?20:56
apacheloggerI need one for UDS20:56
apacheloggerand FDS, come to think of it20:57
ulyssesI don't wear such things20:58
apacheloggerwell21:00
apacheloggerbut I do21:00
apacheloggerhence the question21:00
apacheloggerwell21:00
apacheloggerI do not - yet21:00
apacheloggerwhich is the problem really21:00
ulyssesfound one: http://www.csillagjelmez.hu/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=59&g2_itemId=275421:03
ulyssesanother one: http://www.margaretajelmez.hu/index.php?aa=egyedi_jelmez2 (15. row)21:05
apacheloggernah, too cheap21:10
apacheloggerI need the real deal21:10
apacheloggerultimately the original costume21:10
* apachelogger wonders if he can sue someone for launchpad spam and silly changes21:27
JontheEchidnaNow that LP can finally read bugzilla importance I've gotten 2 years worth of upstream bug watch notifications21:32
apacheloggerall being medium I presume?21:36
apacheloggereverything is medium these days21:36
* yofel is increadibly happy that he sorts kubuntu-bugs mails into a different folder by filtering...21:46
apacheloggerthat still does not save you from actually useful mails getting lost in the pile of shit launchpad produces21:47
yofeltrue21:47
Riddellapachelogger: we've been talking about making language-selector a kcm for years21:48
Riddellapachelogger: I get in at half five21:48
apacheloggerRiddell: also we have been talking about making it proper for years ;)21:48
apacheloggerwe should make a lib21:48
apacheloggerand then just stack a gui ontop of it21:49
apacheloggerusing a statemachine21:49
apacheloggerthen we also can use QML at some point ;)21:49
ScottKTm_T: Any test results?22:26
jr_http://www.kubuntu.org/news/natty-alpha-222:36
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apacheloggerwe needz to work on our newsing22:39
Riddellit's only an alpha, shouldn't be too high key.  the release page is good though22:41
apacheloggerRiddell: yep, but basically every news looks like that, except for release news22:46
* apachelogger wonders whether we should publish it there to begin with22:47
apacheloggerbut I am tired and not thinking straight22:47
highvoltageis that a double entendre?22:50
apacheloggerhighvoltage: a what?22:50
highvoltagenever mind22:50
* highvoltage heads home :) (alpha days are way too long)22:50
* apachelogger needs a nvm function22:51
ScottKhighvoltage: Apparently he is tired.23:24
highvoltagelol23:40
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: btw, I took care of the kamoso dep problem23:41

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