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[01:23] <claydoh_> Riddell: belated ping I just got home from work, dealing with snowstorms means I work looong day to cover part of the skeleton crew we have to have :(
[01:24]  * claydoh_ was supposed to be home almost 6 hrs ago
[01:24] <claydoh_> ill see if I can get something right now
[02:07] <claydoh_> anyone awake? I kinda need to know what's new for natty alpha 2 :/ 
[02:07] <claydoh> besides kde 4.6 goodness, of course
[02:53] <ScottK> maco: There are options not to delete the build result (see man pbuilder) or you can pbuilder login
[09:46] <Riddell> Quintasan: did you get kamoso packaged?
[11:51] <Riddell> how's this? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NattyNarwhal/Alpha2/Kubuntu
[11:52] <ejat> thumb up :)
[12:49] <ryanakca> ScottK: How's http://paste.ubuntu.com/561906/ ? I think the second clause in the very last sentence is a bit awkward.
[12:50] <ryanakca> Riddell: Very nice :)
[13:07] <apachelogger> great
[13:08] <apachelogger> no l10n import flood from launchpad, but bug expired flood
[13:08] <apachelogger> \o/
[13:08] <apachelogger> oh
[13:09] <apachelogger> and importance changes? :O
[13:09] <apachelogger> wah?
[13:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: launchpad devs work very hard to a) spam our inboxes and b) making bzr use insane amounts of memory
[13:14] <apachelogger> jolly nice
[13:17] <ejat> :)
[13:18] <c2tarun> hi
[13:19] <shadeslayer> oh hai c2tarun
[13:19] <c2tarun> hi shadeslayer :) how are u?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> good :) ... what about you?
[13:19] <c2tarun> me too. :)
[13:19] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: coming to conf.kde.org?
[13:19] <shadeslayer> um
[13:19] <shadeslayer> s/org/in
[13:19] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: what is it?
[13:20] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: its a KDE Conference in India 
[13:20] <c2tarun> INDIA?? any link about more info?
[13:20] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: http://conf.kde.in/
[13:20] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: yep ... im from India as well ;)
[13:21] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: grt :) where is this conf in india?
[13:21] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: bengaluru
[13:21] <c2tarun> can anyone come?
[13:21] <shadeslayer> yes
[13:21] <shadeslayer> you just need to register
[13:22] <c2tarun> sure i'll register :) but i dont have any credit card for payment :( how can i pay?
[13:23] <Nightrose> c2tarun: i think you can register and then pay in cash at the event
[13:23] <c2tarun> Nightrose: that's is AWESOME, i'll surely come :)
[13:23] <Nightrose> great :)
[13:24]  * shadeslayer timed out
[13:25] <shadeslayer> i do hate my ISP ... cant even IRC properly now -.-
[13:26] <ejat> bengaluru is nearest to ? 
[13:26] <shadeslayer> ejat: its a city in itself :P
[13:27] <shadeslayer> formerly known as Bangalore 
[13:27] <ejat> owh .. bangalore change its name ? 
[13:27] <ejat> when was that .. 
[13:27] <shadeslayer> quite some time ago
[13:28] <ejat> shadeslayer: u go to the ubuntu developer day ? 
[13:28] <shadeslayer> ejat: nope ... i cant go to bengaluru for a one day trip :P
[13:28] <shadeslayer> im in Gurgaon :D
[13:28] <ejat> owh ... 
[13:28] <ejat> if its bengaluru = bangalore ... so i hope i can go .. 
[13:29] <ejat> because got flight direct to there .. 
[13:30] <c2tarun> I registered. :)
[13:31] <ejat> i need to check the nearest accomodation there .. 
[13:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: use a train robot, see facebook
[13:32] <apachelogger> most efficient
[13:32] <c2tarun> ejat: I also need to check the nearest accomodation. how can i do that?
[13:33] <c2tarun> shadeslayer: u r in gurgao? how will u go then train or flight?
[13:36] <ejat> what i do is ... open google earth n check the nearest hotel there or check website what hotel available in bangalore.. 
[13:36] <apachelogger> maps.google.com
[13:37] <ejat> :)
[13:37] <apachelogger> kubotu: do you haz maps?
[13:37] <apachelogger> kubotu: maps bangalore
[13:37] <apachelogger> apparently nt
[13:37] <apachelogger> insanity had that
[13:37] <ejat> :)
[13:37] <ejat> need to add the feature into it .. 
[13:38] <apachelogger> easy enough
[13:39] <shadeslayer> c2tarun: flight
[13:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: train robot? O_O
[13:39] <apachelogger> jussi: did you find the old init.d file for kubottu btw?
[13:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: make kubotu join #project-neon plz
[13:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it is a large beast, looking very scary
[13:39] <apachelogger> and it is incredibly loud
[13:39] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: is it pink?
[13:39] <apachelogger> well, not if you are sitting in its belly
[13:39]  * shadeslayer opens
[13:39] <apachelogger> well
[13:39] <apachelogger> not *as* loud
[13:40] <apachelogger> still quite noisey
[13:40] <apachelogger> kubotu: join #project-noon
[13:40] <shadeslayer> hahaha :D
[13:41] <shadeslayer> no kubotu
[13:41] <shadeslayer> sigh ... flipping idiotic router
[13:41] <shadeslayer> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=2 ttl=63 time=69.4 ms
[13:41] <shadeslayer> :|
[13:43] <shadeslayer> FFFFUUUUUUU....
[13:46] <apachelogger> kubotu: rescan
[13:46] <kubotu> saving ...
[13:46] <kubotu> rescanning ...
[13:46] <apachelogger> kubotu: part #project-noon
[13:46] <kubotu> done. 10 core modules loaded; 52 plugins loaded; 33 plugins ignored; 2 plugins failed to load
[13:46] <apachelogger> kubotu: join #project-neon
[13:46] <apachelogger> map bangalore
[13:46] <apachelogger> kubotu: map bangalore
[13:47] <apachelogger> I must have done something wrong ^^
[13:59] <Riddell> Windows is insanely bad
[13:59] <Riddell> took me 15 minutes to work out how to connect to my wireless after I changed my password
[14:02] <ScottK> ryanakca: How about http://paste.ubuntu.com/561946/ (with a nice Debian swirl)?
[14:02] <apachelogger> hm
[14:02] <apachelogger> kubotu: rescan
[14:02] <kubotu> saving ...
[14:02] <kubotu> rescanning ...
[14:02] <kubotu> done. 10 core modules loaded; 53 plugins loaded; 33 plugins ignored; 1 plugin failed to load
[14:02] <apachelogger> Riddell: the average windows user does not change the wireless password
[14:02] <apachelogger> kubotu: map prater, vienna, austria
[14:02]  * kubotu http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=prater,+vienna,+austria
[14:03] <apachelogger> that is bogus ^^
[14:03] <apachelogger> kubotu: rescan
[14:03] <kubotu> saving ...
[14:03] <kubotu> rescanning ...
[14:03] <kubotu> done. 10 core modules loaded; 53 plugins loaded; 33 plugins ignored; 1 plugin failed to load
[14:03] <apachelogger> kubotu: map prater, vienna, austria
[14:03] <kubotu> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=prater,+vienna,+austria
[14:04] <apachelogger> arr, there we go
[14:04] <apachelogger> kubotu: map hotels, bangalore, india
[14:04] <kubotu> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=hotels,+bangalore,+india
[14:04] <apachelogger> ejat: ^
[14:04] <apachelogger> :P
[14:04]  * apachelogger thinks one could do that using an in-memory script too but forgot how to do that
[14:21] <ScottK> Tm_T: Did you ever get a chance to test the powerpc Alpha 2 image?
[14:22] <Tm_T> ScottK: actually not until now, going to start the download
[14:22] <Tm_T> been hectic week in home here
[14:22] <ScottK> Cool.
[14:22] <ScottK> Understand.
[14:27] <Tm_T> ScottK: uh, throw me with a link, please
[14:28] <ScottK> Tm_T: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20110202/natty-desktop-powerpc.iso
[14:33] <Tm_T> thanks, today isn't my day
[14:34]  * Riddell declares tomorrow to be Tm_T day
[14:35] <Tm_T> indeed, because tomorrow isn't thursday
[14:38] <Quintasan> Riddell: yes I did, http://paste.kde.org/4044
[14:38] <Quintasan> Riddell: please review before I upload this
[14:39] <Riddell> Quintasan: looking good, go for it
[14:39] <Quintasan> ScottK: ping
[14:40] <Tm_T> as a bit humourish bit for this evening, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=KDE_e.V.&diff=411784969&oldid=411780403
[14:42] <Riddell> I wonder how many other Ade de Groots there are in Wikipaedia
[14:42] <Quintasan> Riddell: Uploaded
[14:43] <ScottK> Quintasan: pong.
[14:44] <Quintasan> ScottK: Have some time? I'm free to do this arm box stuff
[14:44] <Tm_T> Riddell: I actually checked the date of the death of this chess player just to make sure he cannot be the one, somehow being dead over 3 years doesn't make him eligible for being E.V. vice president
[14:44] <ScottK> Quintasan: sure.
[14:44] <ScottK> Quintasan: I need an ssh public key first.
[14:45] <ScottK> Quintasan: Or not.  I can't seem to connect to the box.  We had a power loss yesterday, so maybe something went south overnight.
[14:45] <Quintasan> Oh
[15:02] <apachelogger> Quintasan: do we have bangarang 2.0 yet?
[15:02] <Quintasan> I think c2tarun was doing that with Riddell yesterday
[15:04] <Riddell> no we were doing bluedevil
[15:04] <Quintasan> Hmm.
[15:04] <Quintasan> Okay
[15:04] <Quintasan> Can do
[15:04] <ryanakca> ScottK: Sounds good :)
[15:04] <ryanakca> apachelogger: I have bangarang packages ready for Debian, they're just pending 4.5.0 getting uploaded to unstable
[15:05] <apachelogger> Quintasan: c2tarun was doing them
[15:05] <apachelogger> shouldn't you know about that?!!?!
[15:05] <Quintasan> ryanakca: awesome
[15:06] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Shouldn't you start working as well at some point?
[15:06] <Quintasan> :P
[15:06] <tsimpson> soo much LP spam...
[15:07] <apachelogger> Quintasan: I brought up padawans to become minions when you were still playing the counter strike...
[15:07] <ryanakca> Quintasan: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-kde/kde-extras/bangarang.git ... I haven't gotten it to build on unstable (won't build without 4.5.0), but you or I can fix the version/distribution line in changelog and try uploading to a PPA
[15:07] <Quintasan> I can do it.
[15:07] <apachelogger> ryanakca: it will run like the shi without 4.6 actually
[15:08] <ryanakca> Quintasan: Alright, thanks
[15:08] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I didnt play counter strike at any point in my life
[15:08] <Quintasan> ^_^
[15:08] <apachelogger> as nepomuk in 4.6 has curcial fixes for bangarang use cases
[15:08] <ryanakca> apachelogger: *nod*
[15:09] <ryanakca> Quintasan: Oh. Hm. Just a sec, I fear I pushed the packaging to the debian-multimedia branch, I'll push to the pkg-kde-extras one.
[15:16] <Quintasan> ryanakca: Pushed?
[15:16] <ryanakca> Quintasan: Hm. Let me get back to you on that, it looks as if I had the packaging in two different remote branches, one set on my desktop, the other on my netbook, and that they've diverged. Rebasing.
[15:16] <Quintasan> oh, okay, ping me when done
[15:28] <c2tarun> hi friends, any packaging job today?
[15:29] <Riddell> hi c2tarun 
[15:29] <Riddell> sure, see http://goo.gl/yGhJd
[15:29] <Riddell> splitting up kalgebra for example
[15:29] <Riddell> or that kdevelop one
[15:29] <Riddell> oh and you were going to backport bluedevil
[15:29] <c2tarun> hi Riddell, let me check :) I wanna do it.
[15:31] <c2tarun> Riddell: A company came to my college for campus drive, so i was busy today :) i'll do it tonight. by the way are u coming to conf.kde.in?
[15:32] <Riddell> yes I'll be coming to conf.kde.in
[15:32] <tazz> c2tarun, yes he is coming.
[15:33] <c2tarun> great :) Riddell: kalgebra bug is in progress, can i work on bug 686650
[15:33] <ryanakca> Quintasan: class is starting, I'll get back to you in a bit.
[15:36] <ScottK> Quintasan: Around?  Arm box is fixed.
[15:42] <ScottK> Which package gets Kubuntu slide show bugs?
[15:44] <c2tarun> Riddell: yesterday i pulled previous version of bluedevil from LP but now there is new version there?
[15:44] <Riddell> ScottK: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[15:44] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks.
[15:44] <Riddell> c2tarun: yes should be, see launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluedevil
[15:45] <c2tarun> Riddell: so all i need to do is download the deb file and install it on my system for checking? right
[15:47] <Riddell> c2tarun: no you need to recompile the source in a maverick pbuilder
[15:47] <c2tarun> Riddell: ok, I'll do that and reply then :)
[15:48] <Quintasan> ScottK: I'll be back in 20 min or so
[15:48] <ScottK> OK
[16:01] <Quintasan> ScottK: back
[16:01] <c2tarun> what is mean by this error? "Maintainer email is set to an @lists.ubuntu.com address - doing nothing."
[16:02] <Quintasan> c2tarun: Maintainers in Ubuntu are usually certain groups, like Kubuntu Developers, Ubuntu MOTU Developers etc.
[16:03] <Quintasan> c2tarun: and we use mailing lists when asking for something to be done with a package
[16:04] <c2tarun> Quintasan: do u know how to add a watch file?
[16:04] <Quintasan> depends on upstream
[16:04] <ScottK> Quintasan: OK.  I need an ssh public key
[16:04] <Quintasan> ScottK: Is it safe enough to pastebin it or you want me to email it?
[16:05] <Quintasan> c2tarun: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-dother.en.html#s-watch
[16:05] <ScottK> Quintasan: Pastebin is fine.  It's the public key.
[16:05] <Quintasan> ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/4057
[16:05] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ok, i was working on bluedevil application and I found there that watch file is missing, I packed a package in morning and placed it in REVU and first error i got is watch file missing. How can a package be in our archive without a watch file?
[16:05] <Quintasan> Sometimes you can
[16:06] <Quintasan> can't do a watch file
[16:06] <c2tarun> Quintasan: how can we know that we can or can't do watch?
[16:07] <Quintasan> c2tarun: like, svn or git stuff
[16:07] <c2tarun> Quintasan: git means?
[16:07] <Quintasan> c2tarun: git is a control version system
[16:08] <Quintasan> c2tarun: you would do it via get-orig-source in debian/rules instead of watch file
[16:08] <Quintasan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Examples/ChangingTheOrigTarball
[16:09] <Quintasan> c2tarun: the watch file is OPTIONAL but recommended
[16:09] <c2tarun> Quintasan: can u please look on bug 710347 once.
[16:09] <c2tarun> Quintasan: Can we create the watch file?
[16:11] <Quintasan> c2tarun: This project is hosted on Launchpad
[16:11] <Quintasan> c2tarun: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/21146
[16:13] <Quintasan> c2tarun: I don't know if they will work
[16:13] <Quintasan> c2tarun: I think you can do just fine without an watch file
[16:14] <c2tarun> Quintasan: sure :) i'll upload on REVU again and tell micagh that we can do fine without a watch :)
[16:14] <c2tarun> Quintasan: Thanks :)
[16:14] <Quintasan> Huh? Give me the REVU link
[16:15] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ya wait.
[16:16] <c2tarun> Quintasan: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/schedio there are also two more errors, i removed them, just waiting for a way to write a watch file. :)
[16:19] <Quintasan> my Mother just recorded a short thing from BBC, some lady had 1st edition of Hobbit by J.R.R Tolkien and she "lost" it for almost 50 years
[16:20] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ??
[16:20] <Quintasan> c2tarun: look, about the watch file
[16:20] <Quintasan> c2tarun: even lintian marks it as Severity: wishlist
[16:20] <Quintasan> c2tarun: please reupload the fixed version to REVU
[16:20] <Quintasan> c2tarun: so I can check this
[16:21] <c2tarun> Quintasan: shall i upload the fixed version right now? and where to look about the watch file?
[16:21] <Quintasan> c2tarun: What do you want to know about watch file?
[16:22] <c2tarun> Quintasan: i'll upload the package without watch file, Can this be approved?
[16:22] <Quintasan> c2tarun: YES, the watch file is OPTIONAL (means it is not necessary) but recommended
[16:22] <Quintasan> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianwatch
[16:22] <Quintasan> and http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-dother.en.html#s-watch
[16:22] <Quintasan> read it
[16:23] <Quintasan> c2tarun: Most things are explained in http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html
[16:23] <Quintasan> Trust me, I would have saved much more time if I actually read it when I started :/
[16:23] <c2tarun> saved time by reading  :(
[16:24] <Quintasan> Possible. :D
[16:25] <Quintasan> c2tarun: ping me when you have uploaded
[16:25] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ok i'll read it :) i did it actually :)
[16:26] <Quintasan> c2tarun: Then read the watch file part, it says it is optional :)
[16:26] <c2tarun> Quintasan: sure till then can u please look at my upload?
[16:27] <Quintasan> c2tarun: Did you fix the Maintainer field?
[16:27] <c2tarun> Quintasan: yup
[16:27] <c2tarun> Quintasan: but i dont know how to look at my upload? :( very sorry, can u please give me the link
[16:28] <Quintasan> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/schedio
[16:28] <Quintasan> here is your upload
[16:29] <Quintasan> c2tarun: in debian/control: Section field is wrong, should be "utils" instead of "utilities"
[16:30] <c2tarun> Quintasan: still I am getting that maintainer error, why ?
[16:30] <Quintasan> Priority: optional has a space at the end.
[16:31] <c2tarun> Quintasan: space :/ this is also an error :( u guys are really expert :(
[16:32] <Quintasan> Those are just minor problems,  I could fix it myself but I'm telling you so you avoid that next time
[16:32] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ok, i'll fix it :). any more suggestions?
[16:32] <c2tarun> Quintasan: NO, i'll fix it so that i may remember it next time :)
[16:33] <Quintasan> c2tarun: Section is wrong as I said earlier
[16:33] <Quintasan> c2tarun: and the Maintainer, set it to: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>
[16:33] <Quintasan> and put your name under XBSC-Original-Maintainer
[16:34] <c2tarun> Quintasan: but motu developers should include motu members, and I am not a motu
[16:34] <Quintasan> c2tarun: You are not, but MOTU members maintain the packages in there
[16:35] <Quintasan> c2tarun: So until you become a one I will just review your package and upload them
[16:35] <Quintasan> c2tarun: I might want to rephrase that since it makes me look like I take the credit for your work
[16:35] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ok so 1. Section is wrong, 2. Maintainer section and 3. The space after optional?
[16:36] <Quintasan> yus
[16:36] <Quintasan> Section should be "utils"
[16:36] <Quintasan> You made it a bit longer :P
[16:36] <c2tarun> thanks i'll fix it and upload it soon :)
[16:38] <ScottK> Quintasan: We don't use Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com> anymore.  Both Main and Universe should be Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
[16:39] <Quintasan> Oh. Okay
[16:39] <Quintasan> c2tarun: What ScottK said
[16:39] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ya got it.
[16:39] <c2tarun> Quintasan: in maintainer as scott said and in XBSC-* my name?
[16:39] <c2tarun> Quintasan: right?
[16:40] <Quintasan> Yup
[16:42] <c2tarun> Quintasan: i am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/562063/
[16:42] <agateau> Riddell: ping
[16:42] <Quintasan> c2tarun: dput -f revu <changes.file>
[16:43] <c2tarun> Quintasan: you mean dput -f revu *.source.changes
[16:43] <c2tarun> ?
[16:43] <Quintasan> c2tarun: just add the -f to the command you used to upload
[16:43] <Quintasan> c2tarun: it will force the upload
[16:44] <Quintasan> c2tarun: there should be a *.revu.upload file on your PC in the same directory as well
[16:44] <Riddell> hi agateau 
[16:44] <c2tarun> Quintasan: its uploaded can u please check?
[16:44] <c2tarun> Quintasan: I don't have any such file? why so?
[16:44] <agateau> Riddell: I have a new somewhat unstable release of libindicate-qt, waiting for packages
[16:44] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ya i have :)
[16:45] <Quintasan> c2tarun: If you remove it then dput will work without -f
[16:45] <agateau> Riddell: it is unstable as in most unit-tests fail, but the problem comes from libindicate, and ted plans to address them
[16:45] <agateau> Riddell: so for now I released in a separate series: https://launchpad.net/libindicate-qt/libindicate-0.5
[16:46] <Riddell> agateau: but good enough for natty?
[16:46] <agateau> Riddell: good enough for the current state of natty I would say
[16:46] <c2tarun> Quintasan: I uploaded it again, can u please check it?
[16:47] <Quintasan> checking
[16:48] <Quintasan> c2tarun: urgh the license is not ther
[16:49] <Quintasan> c2tarun: You should ask UPSTREAM to update their sources with the text of the license in a filed named COPYING
[16:49] <c2tarun> Quintasan: sorry not getting what are you trying to say?
[16:49] <c2tarun> Quintasan: can u please explain a bit.
[16:50] <Quintasan> c2tarun: The debian/copyright says the stuff is licensed on GPL
[16:50] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ya so?
[16:50] <Quintasan> c2tarun: but packaging policy requires the WHOLE license to be shipped WITH the source code
[16:51] <c2tarun> Quintasan: hmm.. can't we add it by ourselves? why bother the one in upstream?
[16:52] <Quintasan> c2tarun: That would require repacking the source and should be avoided unless REALLY necessary
[16:52] <Quintasan> c2tarun: I'm sure if you email one of the authors (https://launchpad.net/~tnedel) they would include it
[16:53] <ScottK> Tm_T: Get a chance to take the powerpc ISO for a spin?
[16:53] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ya but in asking the upstream a whole day will be wasted when the work can be complete in few hours.
[16:53] <Quintasan> c2tarun: Hmm, he did not provide an email
[16:53] <c2tarun> Quintasan: don't know, i contacted them once from their launchpad page.
[16:54] <Tm_T> ScottK: nope, have to wait that the ibook is free from my wife's use (:
[16:54] <ScottK> OK
[16:55] <Quintasan> c2tarun: It's policy, I know it is sometimes boring but you have try to contact them. This will just save some time in future
[16:56] <c2tarun> Quintasan: but i don't understand one thing, since I created the debian folder I am responsible for putting the complete license in there. am i right?
[16:56] <Quintasan> c2tarun: How did you contact them? I can't find any email
[16:56] <c2tarun> Quintasan: click on contact this user :)
[16:57] <Quintasan> c2tarun: nope, the SOURCE TARBALL itself has to contain the COPYING file with the license inside
[16:58] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ok, then i didn't did anychanges into tarball, all i did with the debian folder. So we should contact them :)
[16:58] <Quintasan> c2tarun: Just wait for him to reply, I'm sure the will include it
[16:58] <c2tarun> Quintasan: you mailed them?
[16:58] <Quintasan> c2tarun: I did not, I thought you said you emailed him
[16:59] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ok i'll :)
[17:00] <Quintasan> c2tarun: Watch file is wrong
[17:00] <Quintasan> I think it doesn't work
[17:00] <tazz> c2tarun, shadeslayer where does pbuilder put the tar file after you run the command  "sudo pbuilder create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd"
[17:01] <tazz> got it nevermind :p
[17:01] <shadeslayer> tazz: the path that you've specified in pbuilderrc
[17:01] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:01] <c2tarun> tazz: check in var/cache/pbuilder
[17:01] <yofel> tazz: at $BASETGZ, /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz by default
[17:01] <tazz> shadeslayer, i dont have one. Will have to research and optimize.
[17:01] <tazz> /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz
[17:01] <shadeslayer> well
[17:02] <shadeslayer> tazz: http://paste.kde.org/4068
[17:02] <shadeslayer> make changes accordingly
[17:02] <c2tarun> Quintasan: I created it in experimentation and forgot to remove :( very sorry
[17:02] <Quintasan> c2tarun: I think it would be fine if the /v(.+)/ was fixed
[17:02] <Quintasan> it expands to something strange
[17:05] <c2tarun> Quintasan: i wrote that according to https://launchpad.net/schedio/trunk/v<version number>/+download/schedio_<version number>.tar.gz
[17:05] <c2tarun> Quintasan: check on the link https://launchpad.net/schedio/trunk
[17:08] <Quintasan> c2tarun: just skip the watch file altogether for now
[17:08] <Quintasan> the bug says there is no sensible way to use it :/
[17:09] <Quintasan> afiestas: kamoso uploaded
[17:10] <Quintasan> afiestas: if you can, please check if I haven't missed something
[17:10] <afiestas> Quintasan: F*** yeah! :p we need a looot of testing  :p
[17:10] <afiestas> I have still 1.0.5 in my apt
[17:10] <afiestas> where can I see it?
[17:10] <Quintasan> afiestas: natty?
[17:11] <afiestas> yes
[17:11] <Quintasan> afiestas: update the repos
[17:11] <c2tarun> Quintasan: don't know how but an unwnated .copyright.swp file suddenly came into my debian folder? why so?
[17:11] <Quintasan> some vim magic
[17:11] <Quintasan> c2tarun: just remove it
[17:12] <Quintasan> afiestas: HERP DERP crashes when using settings
[17:12] <Quintasan> I must have missed something
[17:12] <Riddell> Quintasan: kamoso still depends on vlc
[17:13] <Quintasan> Riddell: it shouldn't?
[17:13] <Quintasan> afiestas: http://paste.kde.org/4071
[17:13] <Quintasan> afiestas: anything I have missed?
[17:14] <Riddell> Quintasan: I can't see why it should, it uses qtgstreamer now
[17:14] <Riddell> afiestas: kamoso shouldn't depend on vlc right?
[17:17] <Riddell> afiestas: it works!
[17:17] <Quintasan> afiestas: so, I'm removing vlc stuff from deps, blame me since I forgot to do it
[17:17] <Riddell> but it doesn't fit on my netbook screen
[17:17] <Quintasan> Riddell: can you enter Settings?
[17:18] <Riddell> Quintasan: yes (also don't fit on screen by default)
[17:18] <Quintasan> ...
[17:18] <Quintasan> not sure why but it crashes here
[17:20] <Quintasan> Riddell: amd64?
[17:20] <Riddell> no
[17:21] <Quintasan> hmm, something is clearly wrong here
[17:21] <Quintasan> afiestas: are you running an amd64 box?
[17:21] <afiestas> aaha, updated
[17:21] <afiestas> 1seg
[17:22] <afiestas> Quintasan: yes I'm let me install and test it
[17:23] <afiestas> mmm 
[17:23] <afiestas> apt-get install kamoso
[17:23] <afiestas>  konqueror konqueror-nsplugins <-- why these are going to be installed'
[17:23] <afiestas> ?
[17:24] <Quintasan> something has to be pulling em
[17:24] <Riddell> kipi-plugins recommends it
[17:24] <Riddell> that should be fixed
[17:24] <afiestas> vls is not needed anymore just to confirm it
[17:24] <Quintasan> afiestas: and IIRC you said kipi-plugins would be a good Recommend :)
[17:25] <afiestas> yes yes, kipi-plugins are, but konqueror/konqueror-nsplugin aren't
[17:25] <afiestas> https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/multimedia/kamoso <-- this is the website now
[17:25] <afiestas> (kde-apps won' tbe updated, at least not by us)
[17:25] <Quintasan> Riddell: do we want to change kipi-plugins or not?
[17:26] <Riddell> yes
[17:26] <Quintasan> Getting to it
[17:26] <Quintasan> afiestas: well if you are running an amd64 please try entering Settings
[17:27] <Quintasan> Ooops
[17:27] <Quintasan> :O
[17:28] <afiestas> got a kernel panic :/
[17:28] <afiestas> the package seems to work
[17:28] <Quintasan> from Kamoso? :O
[17:28] <afiestas> what I dont' see in the desc file is any runtime dependency
[17:28] <Quintasan> gstreamer0.10-plugins-base and gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
[17:28] <Quintasan> anything else?
[17:28] <Quintasan> afiestas: AMD64?
[17:28] <afiestas> nope, should work 
[17:29] <afiestas> yes AMD64
[17:29] <afiestas> Linux MiNiBaD 2.6.38-1-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 28 15:26:43 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:29] <Quintasan> and entering Settings works for you?
[17:30] <Quintasan> afiestas: ^
[17:30] <afiestas> yes
[17:30] <afiestas> can you send me the backtrace?
[17:30] <afiestas> Kamoso 2.0 has been tested only in 7 environments, so we need a loot of testing to be able to work everywhere
[17:31] <Quintasan> afiestas: drkonqi says backtrace not useful though I have debugging stuff installed
[17:31] <Quintasan> let me update my box
[17:34] <Riddell> afiestas: where do I report bugs? b.k.o?
[17:34] <Quintasan> afiestas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/562091
[17:34] <Quintasan> afiestas: It is probably not useful
[17:35] <Quintasan> Dunno which debug libs I need
[17:36] <afiestas> Quintasan: terminal output will be usefull too
[17:37] <afiestas> Riddell: yes
[17:37] <afiestas> Quintasan: that bt is weird, can you rm -rf .kde/share/config/kamoso* ?
[17:39] <Quintasan> afiestas: still same thing
[17:39] <afiestas> Quintasan:  terminal output?
[17:40] <Quintasan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/562095
[17:40] <Quintasan> nothing much
[17:40] <afiestas> kdebugdialog <-- enable Kamoso output
[17:41] <Quintasan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/562096/
[17:42] <Quintasan> afiestas: I can't say I found kamoso stuff in kdebugdialog :(
[17:42] <Quintasan> oh wait
[17:44] <afiestas> Riddell: any recommended size?
[17:45] <Riddell> afiestas: well I think the limiting factor is the size of the webcam image, and it should scale to whatever size is needed
[17:46] <afiestas> mm, agreed
[17:46] <afiestas> I will try to get that fixed for the next release
[17:47] <Riddell> most good of you :)
[17:47] <Quintasan> hmm
[17:49] <Quintasan> afiestas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/562098
[17:49] <Quintasan> I can't get anything more
[17:49] <Quintasan> kdebugdialog has EVERYTHING selected T_T
[17:50] <afiestas> there is not even a single line from webcamwidget, which is really odd
[17:50] <Quintasan> wait
[17:50] <Quintasan> wait wait wait
[17:50] <Quintasan> maybe it is because I didn't plug in my webcam?
[17:50] <Quintasan> :O
[17:50] <afiestas> http://bugsfiles.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=56825 <-- this is more like it 
[17:50] <afiestas> oh, we should handle that anyway
[17:51] <afiestas> but now I can see why it may crash
[17:51] <Quintasan> afiestas: not with a crash :P
[17:51] <afiestas> the webcamwidget stuff is before the WhiteWidgetManager stuff
[17:51] <afiestas> and your log doesn't have anything before WhiteWidgetManager :p
[17:52] <Quintasan> oh yes
[17:52] <Quintasan> I plugged that damn thing in
[17:52] <Quintasan> and it works
[17:52] <Quintasan> afiestas: poor handling of no camera :)
[17:52] <afiestas> can you report a bug?
[17:53] <afiestas> we did test that kamoso didn't crash withotu camera, we just did not the KCM :p
[17:54] <Quintasan> how do I test the camera?
[17:54] <Quintasan> I dunno if it even works :/
[17:56] <afiestas> what do you mean?
[17:56] <afiestas> kamoso is not showing anything?
[18:12] <c2tarun> Riddell: ping
[18:12] <Riddell> hi c2tarun 
[18:13] <tazz> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging has duplication. Grep for "grantlee"
[18:13] <tazz> do i correct it ?
[18:13] <Riddell> tazz: it's a wiki, edit :)
[18:14] <tazz> ok cool.
[18:14] <c2tarun> Riddell: i just compiled the bluedevil and .deb file wil be ready in few minutes. I will test it on my system, i just wanted to know if anything goes wrong from where can i get the older version?
[18:18] <Riddell> c2tarun: you can just remove bluedevil then reinstall
[18:18] <Riddell> sudo apt-get remove bluedevil; sudo apt-get install bluedevil
[18:18] <c2tarun> Riddell: ok thanks :) i'll let you know as soon as i'll check it 
[18:22] <kshadeslayer> It's Launchpad Bug tracker spam day!
[18:22] <kshadeslayer> yayy
[18:26] <c2tarun> Riddell: new version of bluedevil working fine as its previous version, I checked it by browsing my cellphone and with my bluetooth headset. I was able to access my cellphone from it and my headset was neither working with previous version nor with this one ;) so its fine 
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[18:32] <c2tarun> Riddell: ping
[18:45] <kshadeslayer> night all :)
[18:45] <kshadeslayer> tazz: whatcha doing? :D
[18:46] <kshadeslayer> also
[18:46] <kshadeslayer> tazz: i claim you for Project Neon
[18:46] <tazz> kshadeslayer, planning to edit the wiki
[18:46] <tazz> kshadeslayer, my first todo thing would be to build amarok.
[18:46] <tazz> so that i can atleast rebuild my library.
[18:46] <kshadeslayer> tazz: right .. gather some packaging skillz then i teach you how to package forneon :D
[18:46] <kshadeslayer> *for neon
[18:47] <tazz> that was the reason i landed here XD
[18:47] <kshadeslayer> :D
[18:47] <kshadeslayer> hmm
[18:47] <kshadeslayer> Quintasan: yofel we need a motto/tag line for neon
[18:47] <kshadeslayer> better than our current one
[18:48] <tazz> how about "We will.... We will... Break you!"
[18:48] <kshadeslayer> hehehe .. 
[18:48] <tazz> sing it fi5ve style
[18:48] <yofel> tazz: we thought about that already, not broken enough
[18:48] <tazz> XD
[18:48] <yofel> the slogan I mean
[18:48] <tazz> oh ok then... to beta and beyond!
[18:48] <kshadeslayer> tazz: we work too hard ... sadly it works somewhat
[18:49] <kshadeslayer> we won't ever move past alpha :P
[18:49] <Riddell> c2tarun: great
[18:49] <Riddell> c2tarun: now you need to file a bug at launchpad.net/maverick-backports
[18:49] <Riddell> requesting the backport and including the build log
[18:50] <tazz> ok, kshadeslayer i'll contact you after i have this dbuild stuff down
[18:50] <c2tarun> Riddell: do u want to check the build log once?
[18:52] <kshadeslayer> dbuild? O_O
[18:53] <c2tarun> kshadeslayer: hey Riddell seems to be busy now, can you please tell me which build log file we have to upload when requesting for a backport?
[18:53]  * yofel wonders if tazz meant debuild
[18:53] <kshadeslayer> c2tarun: what did you run?
[18:53] <c2tarun> pbuilder-dist maverick build *.changes
[18:53] <kshadeslayer> alright
[18:54] <kshadeslayer> c2tarun: so in the dir which has your orig.tar.gz you'll have a file named foo.log
[18:54] <kshadeslayer> where foo can be anything
[18:55] <c2tarun> nope but in pbuilder's result folder I have a log file "last_operation.log"
[18:55] <kshadeslayer> ill bbiab
[18:55] <c2tarun> kshadeslayer: ^^
[18:56] <yofel> that'll probably be it
[18:56] <yofel> we have a different pbuilder setup from you so it's named differently
[18:59] <c2tarun> yofel: can you check it once please?
[19:00] <yofel> check what?
[19:00] <c2tarun> yofel: that build log file which i have to upload with the bug report.
[19:01] <yofel> c2tarun: the build log of the maverick package build
[19:01] <c2tarun> yofel: yup
[19:01] <yofel> so?
[19:01] <c2tarun> yofel: please wait a sec
[19:02] <yofel> c2tarun: if you mean check what filename it is, I don't know since I don't use pbuilder-dist
[19:03] <c2tarun> yofel: ok no prob :) just check this link https://bugs.launchpad.net/maverick-backports/+bug/712678 and pleas tell me what to do now?
[19:06] <yofel> c2tarun: the full read here is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#How%20to%20request%20new%20packages, I'll look over it
[19:06] <yofel> the log looks right
[19:08] <c2tarun> yofel: thanks :)
[19:08] <c2tarun> yofel: who can add the package to backport?
[19:09] <yofel> someone on the backports team
[19:09] <yofel> ScottK: ^
[19:14] <c2tarun> yofel: I got to go, its 1AM here and I need some sleep, will you leat any member of the backports team know when they come in?
[19:15] <yofel> c2tarun: Scott is a member ;)
[19:15] <c2tarun> yofel: but he seems to be busy :(
[19:16] <yofel> well, you would have to go to some #ubuntu-* channel to look for the other ones
[19:17] <c2tarun> yofel: hmm... that seems to be a long task, I am feeling sleepy :( i'll look for them tomorrow. Thanks :)
[19:17] <c2tarun> bye everyone :)
[19:17] <yofel> sure, gn
[19:17] <tazz> see ya
[19:30] <apachelogger> Quintasan: did you and c2tarun get bangarang sorted yet?
[19:30] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I think not yet
[19:30]  * apachelogger needs it for fosdem :S
[19:30] <Quintasan> I told him to give me a debdiff and diff -Nru between debians but he disappeared off to bed
[19:30] <Quintasan> apachelogger: in how many days it starts?
[19:30] <apachelogger> saturday
[19:30] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I will do this tomorrow
[19:30]  * apachelogger unsubscribes from kubuntu-bugs
[19:30] <apachelogger> Quintasan: cheers
[19:35] <apachelogger> Riddell: maybe qt-language-selector should be a kcm?
[19:35] <apachelogger> System Language
[20:09] <afiestas> Quintasan: finally was it working for you?
[20:10] <Quintasan> afiestas: kamoso works
[20:10] <Quintasan> but my cam seems to be broken
[20:12] <afiestas> can you eexecute
[20:12] <afiestas> "gst-launch camerabin" ?
[20:12] <afiestas> just to be sure that is not Kamoso fault :p
[20:38] <sheytan> Quintasan: ping
[20:41] <JontheEchidna> missing a dependency? http://paste.ubuntu.com/562205/
[20:41] <JontheEchidna> (for kamoso)
[20:42] <apachelogger> did anyone see my passport?
[20:43] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: you must read the mail from afiestas :P
[20:43] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I would assume Quintasan's package would have all dependencies :P
[20:43] <apachelogger> or your gst registry is the broken or out of date or both *oh my*
[20:43] <JontheEchidna> unles its....
[20:43] <JontheEchidna> FAULTY SOFTWARE
[20:43] <JontheEchidna> :P
[20:43] <apachelogger> ack
[20:44] <JontheEchidna> looks like it needs gstreamer0.10-x
[20:44] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: ^
[20:45] <JontheEchidna> http://i.imgur.com/bIlet.png
[20:45] <JontheEchidna> oh
[20:45] <apachelogger> kamoso causes a state of happyness as one can observe
[20:45] <JontheEchidna> my ride home is here
[20:46] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: o/
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> \o
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> bbiab
[20:46] <apachelogger> also kamoso does not work on the maverick because the qtgst does not compile ont he maverick
[20:46] <apachelogger> suffice to say that causes a state of sadness on my part
[20:46] <afiestas> apachelogger: :/ why doesn't compile?
[20:46] <apachelogger> too old gst
[20:46] <apachelogger> IIRC
[20:47] <apachelogger> then again the reqired one needs to be incredibly new and has the bugz with the phonon
[20:48] <afiestas> in Natty I'm using the Gst Phonon backend and it works well
[20:49] <apachelogger> well, someone had an odd crash with it
[20:49] <apachelogger> actually an assert that behaves critical in ubuntu for whatever reason
[20:50]  * apachelogger does not see how that assert would fail anyway, but oh my
[20:50] <apachelogger> leave it to glib to pull weird stuff :P
[20:51] <apachelogger> Nightrose, Riddell, seaLne: when are you arriving in the city of rue-de-$deadKing btw?
[20:52] <Nightrose> apachelogger: 13 something i think
[20:52] <Nightrose> then desktop summit meeting
[20:52] <apachelogger> always them secret meetings I am not invited to :(
[20:52]  * apachelogger is arriving somewhat 14ish
[20:52] <Nightrose> *ug*
[20:52] <Nightrose> *hug even
[20:53]  * apachelogger reugs Nightrose ^^
[20:53] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55e-uHQna0&feature=player_embedded
[20:53] <apachelogger> Nightrose: I want such a costume
[20:54] <apachelogger> !!!!!!!
[20:54] <apachelogger> pretty pretty plz
[20:54] <Nightrose> no!
[20:54] <apachelogger> meh!
[20:54] <apachelogger> but I want one!!!!!!!!!
[20:56]  * Nightrose is afraid of what you'd do then
[20:56] <Nightrose> aaaaaanyways
[20:56] <Nightrose> i have to pack my back
[20:56] <Nightrose> *bag
[20:56]  * apachelogger just read "pet my back"
[20:56] <apachelogger> I was confused there for a second or two
[20:56] <Nightrose> that too :P
[20:56] <apachelogger> oh my
[20:56] <apachelogger> ulysses: do you haz darts invaders costums in the land of gulyas?
[20:56] <apachelogger> I need one for UDS
[20:57] <apachelogger> and FDS, come to think of it
[20:58] <ulysses> I don't wear such things
[21:00] <apachelogger> well
[21:00] <apachelogger> but I do
[21:00] <apachelogger> hence the question
[21:00] <apachelogger> well
[21:00] <apachelogger> I do not - yet
[21:00] <apachelogger> which is the problem really
[21:03] <ulysses> found one: http://www.csillagjelmez.hu/index.php?option=com_g2bridge&view=gallery&Itemid=59&g2_itemId=2754
[21:05] <ulysses> another one: http://www.margaretajelmez.hu/index.php?aa=egyedi_jelmez2 (15. row)
[21:10] <apachelogger> nah, too cheap
[21:10] <apachelogger> I need the real deal
[21:10] <apachelogger> ultimately the original costume
[21:27]  * apachelogger wonders if he can sue someone for launchpad spam and silly changes
[21:32] <JontheEchidna> Now that LP can finally read bugzilla importance I've gotten 2 years worth of upstream bug watch notifications
[21:36] <apachelogger> all being medium I presume?
[21:36] <apachelogger> everything is medium these days
[21:46]  * yofel is increadibly happy that he sorts kubuntu-bugs mails into a different folder by filtering...
[21:47] <apachelogger> that still does not save you from actually useful mails getting lost in the pile of shit launchpad produces
[21:47] <yofel> true
[21:48] <Riddell> apachelogger: we've been talking about making language-selector a kcm for years
[21:48] <Riddell> apachelogger: I get in at half five
[21:48] <apachelogger> Riddell: also we have been talking about making it proper for years ;)
[21:48] <apachelogger> we should make a lib
[21:49] <apachelogger> and then just stack a gui ontop of it
[21:49] <apachelogger> using a statemachine
[21:49] <apachelogger> then we also can use QML at some point ;)
[22:26] <ScottK> Tm_T: Any test results?
[22:36] <jr_> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/natty-alpha-2
[22:39] <apachelogger> we needz to work on our newsing
[22:41] <Riddell> it's only an alpha, shouldn't be too high key.  the release page is good though
[22:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: yep, but basically every news looks like that, except for release news
[22:47]  * apachelogger wonders whether we should publish it there to begin with
[22:47] <apachelogger> but I am tired and not thinking straight
[22:50] <highvoltage> is that a double entendre?
[22:50] <apachelogger> highvoltage: a what?
[22:50] <highvoltage> never mind
[22:50]  * highvoltage heads home :) (alpha days are way too long)
[22:51]  * apachelogger needs a nvm function
[23:24] <ScottK> highvoltage: Apparently he is tired.
[23:40] <highvoltage> lol
[23:41] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: btw, I took care of the kamoso dep problem