[00:14] [docmessages] alvarenga * 1218580 * trunk/l10n-kde4/pt_BR/ (26 files in 11 dirs) [KDE-pt_BR] [01:23] Riddell: belated ping I just got home from work, dealing with snowstorms means I work looong day to cover part of the skeleton crew we have to have :( [01:24] * claydoh_ was supposed to be home almost 6 hrs ago [01:24] ill see if I can get something right now [02:07] anyone awake? I kinda need to know what's new for natty alpha 2 :/ === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [02:07] besides kde 4.6 goodness, of course [02:53] maco: There are options not to delete the build result (see man pbuilder) or you can pbuilder login [09:46] Quintasan: did you get kamoso packaged? [11:51] how's this? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NattyNarwhal/Alpha2/Kubuntu [11:52] thumb up :) [12:49] ScottK: How's http://paste.ubuntu.com/561906/ ? I think the second clause in the very last sentence is a bit awkward. [12:50] Riddell: Very nice :) [13:07] great [13:08] no l10n import flood from launchpad, but bug expired flood [13:08] \o/ [13:08] oh [13:09] and importance changes? :O [13:09] wah? [13:14] apachelogger: launchpad devs work very hard to a) spam our inboxes and b) making bzr use insane amounts of memory [13:14] jolly nice [13:17] :) [13:18] hi [13:19] oh hai c2tarun [13:19] hi shadeslayer :) how are u? [13:19] good :) ... what about you? [13:19] me too. :) [13:19] c2tarun: coming to conf.kde.org? [13:19] um [13:19] s/org/in [13:19] shadeslayer: what is it? [13:20] c2tarun: its a KDE Conference in India [13:20] INDIA?? any link about more info? [13:20] c2tarun: http://conf.kde.in/ [13:20] c2tarun: yep ... im from India as well ;) [13:21] shadeslayer: grt :) where is this conf in india? [13:21] c2tarun: bengaluru [13:21] can anyone come? [13:21] yes [13:21] you just need to register [13:22] sure i'll register :) but i dont have any credit card for payment :( how can i pay? [13:23] c2tarun: i think you can register and then pay in cash at the event [13:23] Nightrose: that's is AWESOME, i'll surely come :) [13:23] great :) [13:24] * shadeslayer timed out [13:25] i do hate my ISP ... cant even IRC properly now -.- [13:26] bengaluru is nearest to ? [13:26] ejat: its a city in itself :P [13:27] formerly known as Bangalore [13:27] owh .. bangalore change its name ? [13:27] when was that .. [13:27] quite some time ago [13:28] shadeslayer: u go to the ubuntu developer day ? [13:28] ejat: nope ... i cant go to bengaluru for a one day trip :P [13:28] im in Gurgaon :D [13:28] owh ... [13:28] if its bengaluru = bangalore ... so i hope i can go .. [13:29] because got flight direct to there .. [13:30] I registered. :) [13:31] i need to check the nearest accomodation there .. [13:32] shadeslayer: use a train robot, see facebook [13:32] most efficient [13:32] ejat: I also need to check the nearest accomodation. how can i do that? === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - We only have hugs of medium importance| Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | alpha 2 bugs http://goo.gl/yGhJd | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [13:33] shadeslayer: u r in gurgao? how will u go then train or flight? === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - We only have hugs of medium importance | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | alpha 2 bugs http://goo.gl/yGhJd | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [13:36] what i do is ... open google earth n check the nearest hotel there or check website what hotel available in bangalore.. [13:36] maps.google.com [13:37] :) [13:37] kubotu: do you haz maps? [13:37] kubotu: maps bangalore [13:37] apparently nt [13:37] insanity had that [13:37] :) [13:37] need to add the feature into it .. [13:38] easy enough [13:39] c2tarun: flight [13:39] apachelogger: train robot? O_O [13:39] jussi: did you find the old init.d file for kubottu btw? [13:39] apachelogger: make kubotu join #project-neon plz [13:39] shadeslayer: it is a large beast, looking very scary [13:39] and it is incredibly loud [13:39] apachelogger: is it pink? [13:39] well, not if you are sitting in its belly [13:39] * shadeslayer opens [13:39] well [13:39] not *as* loud [13:40] still quite noisey [13:40] kubotu: join #project-noon [13:40] hahaha :D [13:41] no kubotu [13:41] sigh ... flipping idiotic router [13:41] 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_req=2 ttl=63 time=69.4 ms [13:41] :| [13:43] FFFFUUUUUUU.... [13:46] kubotu: rescan [13:46] saving ... [13:46] rescanning ... [13:46] kubotu: part #project-noon [13:46] done. 10 core modules loaded; 52 plugins loaded; 33 plugins ignored; 2 plugins failed to load [13:46] kubotu: join #project-neon [13:46] map bangalore [13:46] kubotu: map bangalore [13:47] I must have done something wrong ^^ [13:59] Windows is insanely bad [13:59] took me 15 minutes to work out how to connect to my wireless after I changed my password [14:02] ryanakca: How about http://paste.ubuntu.com/561946/ (with a nice Debian swirl)? [14:02] hm [14:02] kubotu: rescan [14:02] saving ... [14:02] rescanning ... [14:02] done. 10 core modules loaded; 53 plugins loaded; 33 plugins ignored; 1 plugin failed to load [14:02] Riddell: the average windows user does not change the wireless password [14:02] kubotu: map prater, vienna, austria [14:02] * kubotu http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=prater,+vienna,+austria [14:03] that is bogus ^^ [14:03] kubotu: rescan [14:03] saving ... [14:03] rescanning ... [14:03] done. 10 core modules loaded; 53 plugins loaded; 33 plugins ignored; 1 plugin failed to load [14:03] kubotu: map prater, vienna, austria [14:03] http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=prater,+vienna,+austria [14:04] arr, there we go [14:04] kubotu: map hotels, bangalore, india [14:04] http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=hotels,+bangalore,+india [14:04] ejat: ^ [14:04] :P [14:04] * apachelogger thinks one could do that using an in-memory script too but forgot how to do that === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:21] Tm_T: Did you ever get a chance to test the powerpc Alpha 2 image? [14:22] ScottK: actually not until now, going to start the download [14:22] been hectic week in home here [14:22] Cool. [14:22] Understand. [14:27] ScottK: uh, throw me with a link, please [14:28] Tm_T: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20110202/natty-desktop-powerpc.iso [14:33] thanks, today isn't my day [14:34] * Riddell declares tomorrow to be Tm_T day [14:35] indeed, because tomorrow isn't thursday [14:38] Riddell: yes I did, http://paste.kde.org/4044 [14:38] Riddell: please review before I upload this [14:39] Quintasan: looking good, go for it [14:39] ScottK: ping [14:40] as a bit humourish bit for this evening, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=KDE_e.V.&diff=411784969&oldid=411780403 === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ [14:42] I wonder how many other Ade de Groots there are in Wikipaedia [14:42] Riddell: Uploaded === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [14:43] Quintasan: pong. [14:44] ScottK: Have some time? I'm free to do this arm box stuff [14:44] Riddell: I actually checked the date of the death of this chess player just to make sure he cannot be the one, somehow being dead over 3 years doesn't make him eligible for being E.V. vice president [14:44] Quintasan: sure. [14:44] Quintasan: I need an ssh public key first. [14:45] Quintasan: Or not. I can't seem to connect to the box. We had a power loss yesterday, so maybe something went south overnight. [14:45] Oh [15:02] Quintasan: do we have bangarang 2.0 yet? [15:02] I think c2tarun was doing that with Riddell yesterday [15:04] no we were doing bluedevil [15:04] Hmm. [15:04] Okay [15:04] Can do [15:04] ScottK: Sounds good :) [15:04] apachelogger: I have bangarang packages ready for Debian, they're just pending 4.5.0 getting uploaded to unstable [15:05] Quintasan: c2tarun was doing them [15:05] shouldn't you know about that?!!?! [15:05] ryanakca: awesome [15:06] apachelogger: Shouldn't you start working as well at some point? [15:06] :P [15:06] soo much LP spam... [15:07] Quintasan: I brought up padawans to become minions when you were still playing the counter strike... [15:07] Quintasan: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-kde/kde-extras/bangarang.git ... I haven't gotten it to build on unstable (won't build without 4.5.0), but you or I can fix the version/distribution line in changelog and try uploading to a PPA [15:07] I can do it. [15:07] ryanakca: it will run like the shi without 4.6 actually [15:08] Quintasan: Alright, thanks [15:08] apachelogger: I didnt play counter strike at any point in my life [15:08] ^_^ [15:08] as nepomuk in 4.6 has curcial fixes for bangarang use cases [15:08] apachelogger: *nod* [15:09] Quintasan: Oh. Hm. Just a sec, I fear I pushed the packaging to the debian-multimedia branch, I'll push to the pkg-kde-extras one. [15:16] ryanakca: Pushed? [15:16] Quintasan: Hm. Let me get back to you on that, it looks as if I had the packaging in two different remote branches, one set on my desktop, the other on my netbook, and that they've diverged. Rebasing. [15:16] oh, okay, ping me when done [15:28] hi friends, any packaging job today? [15:29] hi c2tarun [15:29] sure, see http://goo.gl/yGhJd [15:29] splitting up kalgebra for example [15:29] or that kdevelop one [15:29] oh and you were going to backport bluedevil [15:29] hi Riddell, let me check :) I wanna do it. [15:31] Riddell: A company came to my college for campus drive, so i was busy today :) i'll do it tonight. by the way are u coming to conf.kde.in? [15:32] yes I'll be coming to conf.kde.in [15:32] c2tarun, yes he is coming. [15:33] great :) Riddell: kalgebra bug is in progress, can i work on bug 686650 [15:33] Launchpad bug 686650 in kdeedu (Ubuntu) "newer libindi needed for kdeedu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686650 [15:33] Quintasan: class is starting, I'll get back to you in a bit. [15:36] Quintasan: Around? Arm box is fixed. [15:42] Which package gets Kubuntu slide show bugs? [15:44] Riddell: yesterday i pulled previous version of bluedevil from LP but now there is new version there? [15:44] ScottK: ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu [15:44] Riddell: Thanks. [15:44] c2tarun: yes should be, see launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluedevil [15:45] Riddell: so all i need to do is download the deb file and install it on my system for checking? right [15:47] c2tarun: no you need to recompile the source in a maverick pbuilder [15:47] Riddell: ok, I'll do that and reply then :) [15:48] ScottK: I'll be back in 20 min or so [15:48] OK [16:01] ScottK: back [16:01] what is mean by this error? "Maintainer email is set to an @lists.ubuntu.com address - doing nothing." [16:02] c2tarun: Maintainers in Ubuntu are usually certain groups, like Kubuntu Developers, Ubuntu MOTU Developers etc. [16:03] c2tarun: and we use mailing lists when asking for something to be done with a package [16:04] Quintasan: do u know how to add a watch file? [16:04] depends on upstream [16:04] Quintasan: OK. I need an ssh public key [16:04] ScottK: Is it safe enough to pastebin it or you want me to email it? [16:05] c2tarun: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-dother.en.html#s-watch [16:05] Quintasan: Pastebin is fine. It's the public key. [16:05] ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/4057 [16:05] Quintasan: ok, i was working on bluedevil application and I found there that watch file is missing, I packed a package in morning and placed it in REVU and first error i got is watch file missing. How can a package be in our archive without a watch file? [16:05] Sometimes you can [16:06] can't do a watch file [16:06] Quintasan: how can we know that we can or can't do watch? [16:07] c2tarun: like, svn or git stuff [16:07] Quintasan: git means? [16:07] c2tarun: git is a control version system [16:08] c2tarun: you would do it via get-orig-source in debian/rules instead of watch file [16:08] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Examples/ChangingTheOrigTarball [16:09] c2tarun: the watch file is OPTIONAL but recommended [16:09] Quintasan: can u please look on bug 710347 once. [16:09] Launchpad bug 710347 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] schedio" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710347 [16:09] Quintasan: Can we create the watch file? [16:11] c2tarun: This project is hosted on Launchpad [16:11] c2tarun: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/21146 [16:13] c2tarun: I don't know if they will work [16:13] c2tarun: I think you can do just fine without an watch file [16:14] Quintasan: sure :) i'll upload on REVU again and tell micagh that we can do fine without a watch :) [16:14] Quintasan: Thanks :) [16:14] Huh? Give me the REVU link [16:15] Quintasan: ya wait. [16:16] Quintasan: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/schedio there are also two more errors, i removed them, just waiting for a way to write a watch file. :) [16:19] my Mother just recorded a short thing from BBC, some lady had 1st edition of Hobbit by J.R.R Tolkien and she "lost" it for almost 50 years [16:20] Quintasan: ?? [16:20] c2tarun: look, about the watch file [16:20] c2tarun: even lintian marks it as Severity: wishlist [16:20] c2tarun: please reupload the fixed version to REVU [16:20] c2tarun: so I can check this [16:21] Quintasan: shall i upload the fixed version right now? and where to look about the watch file? [16:21] c2tarun: What do you want to know about watch file? [16:22] Quintasan: i'll upload the package without watch file, Can this be approved? [16:22] c2tarun: YES, the watch file is OPTIONAL (means it is not necessary) but recommended [16:22] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianwatch [16:22] and http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-dother.en.html#s-watch [16:22] read it [16:23] c2tarun: Most things are explained in http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html [16:23] Trust me, I would have saved much more time if I actually read it when I started :/ [16:23] saved time by reading :( [16:24] Possible. :D [16:25] c2tarun: ping me when you have uploaded [16:25] Quintasan: ok i'll read it :) i did it actually :) [16:26] c2tarun: Then read the watch file part, it says it is optional :) [16:26] Quintasan: sure till then can u please look at my upload? [16:27] c2tarun: Did you fix the Maintainer field? [16:27] Quintasan: yup [16:27] Quintasan: but i dont know how to look at my upload? :( very sorry, can u please give me the link [16:28] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/schedio [16:28] here is your upload [16:29] c2tarun: in debian/control: Section field is wrong, should be "utils" instead of "utilities" [16:30] Quintasan: still I am getting that maintainer error, why ? [16:30] Priority: optional has a space at the end. [16:31] Quintasan: space :/ this is also an error :( u guys are really expert :( [16:32] Those are just minor problems, I could fix it myself but I'm telling you so you avoid that next time [16:32] Quintasan: ok, i'll fix it :). any more suggestions? [16:32] Quintasan: NO, i'll fix it so that i may remember it next time :) [16:33] c2tarun: Section is wrong as I said earlier [16:33] c2tarun: and the Maintainer, set it to: Ubuntu MOTU Developers [16:33] and put your name under XBSC-Original-Maintainer [16:34] Quintasan: but motu developers should include motu members, and I am not a motu [16:34] c2tarun: You are not, but MOTU members maintain the packages in there [16:35] c2tarun: So until you become a one I will just review your package and upload them [16:35] c2tarun: I might want to rephrase that since it makes me look like I take the credit for your work [16:35] Quintasan: ok so 1. Section is wrong, 2. Maintainer section and 3. The space after optional? [16:36] yus [16:36] Section should be "utils" [16:36] You made it a bit longer :P [16:36] thanks i'll fix it and upload it soon :) [16:38] Quintasan: We don't use Ubuntu MOTU Developers anymore. Both Main and Universe should be Ubuntu Developers [16:39] Oh. Okay [16:39] c2tarun: What ScottK said [16:39] Quintasan: ya got it. [16:39] Quintasan: in maintainer as scott said and in XBSC-* my name? [16:39] Quintasan: right? [16:40] Yup [16:42] Quintasan: i am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/562063/ [16:42] Riddell: ping [16:42] c2tarun: dput -f revu [16:43] Quintasan: you mean dput -f revu *.source.changes [16:43] ? [16:43] c2tarun: just add the -f to the command you used to upload [16:43] c2tarun: it will force the upload [16:44] c2tarun: there should be a *.revu.upload file on your PC in the same directory as well [16:44] hi agateau [16:44] Quintasan: its uploaded can u please check? [16:44] Quintasan: I don't have any such file? why so? [16:44] Riddell: I have a new somewhat unstable release of libindicate-qt, waiting for packages [16:44] Quintasan: ya i have :) [16:45] c2tarun: If you remove it then dput will work without -f [16:45] Riddell: it is unstable as in most unit-tests fail, but the problem comes from libindicate, and ted plans to address them [16:45] Riddell: so for now I released in a separate series: https://launchpad.net/libindicate-qt/libindicate-0.5 [16:46] agateau: but good enough for natty? [16:46] Riddell: good enough for the current state of natty I would say [16:46] Quintasan: I uploaded it again, can u please check it? === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [16:47] checking [16:48] c2tarun: urgh the license is not ther [16:49] c2tarun: You should ask UPSTREAM to update their sources with the text of the license in a filed named COPYING [16:49] Quintasan: sorry not getting what are you trying to say? [16:49] Quintasan: can u please explain a bit. [16:50] c2tarun: The debian/copyright says the stuff is licensed on GPL [16:50] Quintasan: ya so? [16:50] c2tarun: but packaging policy requires the WHOLE license to be shipped WITH the source code [16:51] Quintasan: hmm.. can't we add it by ourselves? why bother the one in upstream? [16:52] c2tarun: That would require repacking the source and should be avoided unless REALLY necessary [16:52] c2tarun: I'm sure if you email one of the authors (https://launchpad.net/~tnedel) they would include it [16:53] Tm_T: Get a chance to take the powerpc ISO for a spin? [16:53] Quintasan: ya but in asking the upstream a whole day will be wasted when the work can be complete in few hours. [16:53] c2tarun: Hmm, he did not provide an email [16:53] Quintasan: don't know, i contacted them once from their launchpad page. [16:54] ScottK: nope, have to wait that the ibook is free from my wife's use (: [16:54] OK [16:55] c2tarun: It's policy, I know it is sometimes boring but you have try to contact them. This will just save some time in future [16:56] Quintasan: but i don't understand one thing, since I created the debian folder I am responsible for putting the complete license in there. am i right? [16:56] c2tarun: How did you contact them? I can't find any email [16:56] Quintasan: click on contact this user :) [16:57] c2tarun: nope, the SOURCE TARBALL itself has to contain the COPYING file with the license inside [16:58] Quintasan: ok, then i didn't did anychanges into tarball, all i did with the debian folder. So we should contact them :) [16:58] c2tarun: Just wait for him to reply, I'm sure the will include it [16:58] Quintasan: you mailed them? [16:58] c2tarun: I did not, I thought you said you emailed him [16:59] Quintasan: ok i'll :) [17:00] c2tarun: Watch file is wrong [17:00] I think it doesn't work [17:00] c2tarun, shadeslayer where does pbuilder put the tar file after you run the command "sudo pbuilder create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd" [17:01] got it nevermind :p [17:01] tazz: the path that you've specified in pbuilderrc [17:01] :P [17:01] tazz: check in var/cache/pbuilder [17:01] tazz: at $BASETGZ, /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz by default [17:01] shadeslayer, i dont have one. Will have to research and optimize. [17:01] /var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz [17:01] well [17:02] tazz: http://paste.kde.org/4068 [17:02] make changes accordingly [17:02] Quintasan: I created it in experimentation and forgot to remove :( very sorry [17:02] c2tarun: I think it would be fine if the /v(.+)/ was fixed [17:02] it expands to something strange === shadeslayer is now known as kshadeslayer [17:05] Quintasan: i wrote that according to https://launchpad.net/schedio/trunk/v/+download/schedio_.tar.gz [17:05] Quintasan: check on the link https://launchpad.net/schedio/trunk [17:08] c2tarun: just skip the watch file altogether for now [17:08] the bug says there is no sensible way to use it :/ [17:09] afiestas: kamoso uploaded [17:10] afiestas: if you can, please check if I haven't missed something [17:10] Quintasan: F*** yeah! :p we need a looot of testing :p [17:10] I have still 1.0.5 in my apt [17:10] where can I see it? [17:10] afiestas: natty? [17:11] yes [17:11] afiestas: update the repos [17:11] Quintasan: don't know how but an unwnated .copyright.swp file suddenly came into my debian folder? why so? [17:11] some vim magic [17:11] c2tarun: just remove it [17:12] afiestas: HERP DERP crashes when using settings [17:12] I must have missed something [17:12] Quintasan: kamoso still depends on vlc [17:13] Riddell: it shouldn't? [17:13] afiestas: http://paste.kde.org/4071 [17:13] afiestas: anything I have missed? [17:14] Quintasan: I can't see why it should, it uses qtgstreamer now [17:14] afiestas: kamoso shouldn't depend on vlc right? [17:17] afiestas: it works! [17:17] afiestas: so, I'm removing vlc stuff from deps, blame me since I forgot to do it [17:17] but it doesn't fit on my netbook screen [17:17] Riddell: can you enter Settings? [17:18] Quintasan: yes (also don't fit on screen by default) [17:18] ... [17:18] not sure why but it crashes here [17:20] Riddell: amd64? [17:20] no [17:21] hmm, something is clearly wrong here [17:21] afiestas: are you running an amd64 box? [17:21] aaha, updated [17:21] 1seg [17:22] Quintasan: yes I'm let me install and test it [17:23] mmm [17:23] apt-get install kamoso [17:23] konqueror konqueror-nsplugins <-- why these are going to be installed' [17:23] ? [17:24] something has to be pulling em [17:24] kipi-plugins recommends it [17:24] that should be fixed [17:24] vls is not needed anymore just to confirm it [17:24] afiestas: and IIRC you said kipi-plugins would be a good Recommend :) [17:25] yes yes, kipi-plugins are, but konqueror/konqueror-nsplugin aren't [17:25] https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/multimedia/kamoso <-- this is the website now [17:25] (kde-apps won' tbe updated, at least not by us) [17:25] Riddell: do we want to change kipi-plugins or not? [17:26] yes [17:26] Getting to it [17:26] afiestas: well if you are running an amd64 please try entering Settings [17:27]