[00:13] Hi, anyone can tell how to update from 10.04 to 10.10? Thank you [00:41] Hello, can anyone tell me how's working 10.10? I am upgrading from 10.04 [00:44] any body [00:45] I am alive, don't know about the rest [00:45] ;) [00:46] who are you? [00:46] i just have ask for help for you both's :) [00:46] espera por tu nombre Juanantonio creo que hablas español [00:46] Juanantonio: 10.10 is quite stable, the full notes are on the help page :) [00:46] Thank you, that is what I wanted to knw [00:47] winning> español de España, sí (Madrid) [00:47] but this is an international channel [00:47] installing right now lubuntu 10.10, I read that is a grub problem? [00:47] Juanantonio: I'm just a poor admin / documentor, so if there any missing bits - come and nag me :D [00:47] waiting for your name I think you speak Spanish Juanantonio i have translate:) [00:47] pero quien me inpide hablar en español? [00:48] A grub problem? I don't know, I installed lubuntu to an old Pentium III PC without Windows [00:48] winninglero: yes, os-prober for some reason was not getting installed, it only applies if you are running more than one version of linux and / or windows and is easily fixed. [00:48] I tried XP unattended and this was a complete mishap, so I am very happy with Lubuntu [00:49] problem if you have another operating system [00:49] Let me have a look at the upgrade in the other PC, back soon [00:50] God, getting new packets, 15 minutes missing [00:50] Other question Lubuntu is oficial? I read that is base in Ubuntu and is for slow PC. So i decided to installed. [00:51] winninglero: sí, os-prober por alguna razón no estaba instalado, sólo se aplica si está ejecutando más de una versión de linux y / o ventanas y se fija fácilmente. :) << google [00:51] winning> I think that from 10.04 is officially supported by Canonical, and from 10.10 is LTS version [00:51] winninglero: we are still awaiting Canonical to write up the notes for adopting a new member to the family, but we are treated by all teams as adopted. [00:51] Ah, okay [00:53] with the dropping of i586 chipsets from the 10.10 kernel, our team has said that they will support 10.04 as if it were an LTS. [00:53] phillw> But then lubuntu is unofficially supported [00:53] Ah, okay, phill [00:54] Nevertheless, I am updating all the version that come out in the web ;) [00:54] and that is why I am updating to 10.04 to 10.10 [00:54] Ok, unofficial; but is safe to used. Anyway i'm tring right now and i decided to install it. [00:54] Juanantonio: I repeat, we are treated by all teams as fully adopted variant, it is just that Canonical are also a small team and trying to write up a system for us to be 'officially' adopted. [00:55] We follow all the rules that other variants follow. [00:56] Ok, that is what I wanted: a small Ubuntu for my old PCs ;) and a big one (Kubuntu) for this PC [00:56] By the way, it works very well [00:58] For me Xubuntu 10.04 is a litter slow, i installes the lxde package of the official ubuntu repository and lxde is fast for me (my computer). [00:58] I installed it, and it recognized my LCD as 1680*1050@60 and configured it so, and a USB WiFi adapter I had plugged was also configured and used to download some missing and updated packets [00:58] winning> Yes, xubuntu is something more slow in old machines [00:58] I had installed in this PC Xubuntu and LXDE desktops [00:59] I proved them a lot ;) [00:59] Xubuntu is fine, but not too much slighter that Gnome or KDE [01:00] For me xubuntu is a deception (desección). [01:00] Hehehe [01:00] I wouldn't say so [01:02] but it is not as little resources demanding as the team says [01:03] winning> How is the PC you are installing lubuntu? [01:03] Well, when i tried lxde (i didn't installed lubuntu-desktop) in ubuntu 10.10 it was very fine for me. [01:04] Pentium 4 celeron - 1GB RAM [01:04] Buff [01:04] Win XP is fast but xubuntu/ubuntu not. [01:04] What is the problem? In this PC, any Ubuntu-based will fly [01:05] Well, you have read before the PC I have installed lubuntu to [01:05] Probably my motherboard is the problem. It's integrated. [01:05] it is not half your PC :P [01:05] VGA integrated in the motherboard? [01:06] I have a geforce 6200 [01:06] That's integrated in the motherboard, isnt't it? [01:07] I have a old PC-Chips motherboard [01:08] My PC is P III 800 Mhz, 256 Mb RAM, 8 Mb video integrated, 10 Gb EIDE HD, CDRW [01:09] with lubuntu, it is going very well [01:09] no miracle, obviously [01:09] I don't remember well, I guess i hace a m925g PC-chips motherboard. [01:11] I don't know WHY?. Windows 7 is acceptable in my computer but Ubuntu (gnome) 10.10 not. [01:11] i hace a pc-chips m810dlu [01:12] i'm using xubuntu 10.10 [01:13] and it is fine for you? [01:13] yes [01:14] pc chips m810dlu, 512mb ram, amd duron [01:14] You are lucky, i have a bad motherboard [01:14] i want other ;/ [01:15] I quit, I have a little problem with the update, soon back [01:15] me too. [01:16] winni; is running winXP ? [01:21] xGrind> In this PC XP almost dragged, but Lub works [01:22] i like lubuntu, but xubuntu is better ;) [01:23] best [01:23] ;x [01:24] Do you think so? [01:24] I think it is better but it is more resources demanding [01:24] in an old PC, that may be a dramatic difference [01:26] I like Xubuntu too, I have in this PC Kubuntu/Xubuntu, and now I am in a Xubuntu session but with Kopete [01:26] ;) [01:28] i am using pidgin with msn-pecan [01:29] is good [01:29] Msn pecan? What's that? [01:30] addon for pidgin, adium, empathy [01:30] msn enhanced [01:31] pidgin is not bad, but I prefer Kopete, and I don't know why, may be I am a KDE man :P [01:31] ;] [01:32] Or maybe what happens is that most of GTK plugins were not correctly installed in this PC and I see very small letters in it [01:32] in notifications, I mean [01:33] Evince I can read it very well, it is number 1 in PDF [01:34] But I can mesure the RAM used by KDE and Xfce and they differ very slightly [01:36] evince is good [01:36] file-roller [01:37] As soon as I can make something with a program, I lose interest in searching another program to make the same thing [01:37] that is why I have Hardy in this PC [01:37] ;) [01:38] I am lazy, hehehe [01:38] Evince seemed to me better than KPdf, and I have never used again KPdf [01:49] Please use #lubuntu-offtopic for non-support discussions [01:53] Ok [02:53] 1 question [02:54] i have a pentium 3 550mhz [02:54] can i install lubuntu 10.10 on it? [02:54] As support for i586 chipsets has been dropped from the kernel for the 10.10 series (These include VIA C3, AMD K6, National Semiconductor and AMD Geode) you will need to use the 10.04 Release. [02:55] ? [02:56] so how to know it [03:05] pentium 3 is i686 chip [03:05] so you will be able to install bubuntu 10.10 on it [03:06] pentium 2 and lower are affected [03:15] thanks [04:32] hi. when i try to use some apps, it has error because it can't create directory. can anyone help? [04:33] sensi4sale: Only if you provide more details :) Which app, and exactly what error message are you seeing? [04:34] nicotine (file sharing app) makes me choose "download" and "upload" folder every time i start it [04:34] it says "can't create directory /home/sensi4sale/.nicotine, permission denied" [04:35] sensi4sale: OK... and you are doing this logged in as user sensi4sale, right? [04:35] yeah [04:35] OK. What does ls -ld /home/sensi4sale output? [04:36] drwxr-xr-x 48 1016 1016 4096 2010-04-02 09:46 /home/sensi4sale [04:37] Those 1016's are "interesting". What does the command id output? [04:37] sorry im noob idk command id [04:38] Just type the command id in a terminal window and tell me what it outputs :) [04:38] Type the two letters i and d and then press the Enter key :) [04:38] thats crazy [04:38] No, it is a command :) [04:38] What does it do? [04:39] uid=1000(sensi4sale) gid=1000(sensi4sale) groups=1000(sensi4sale),4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(fuse),108(lpadmin),114(admin),115(sambashare) [04:39] Great. Basically it looks like your homd directory is not really owned by sensi4sale but by some other user. [04:40] What does grep :1016: /etc/passwd output? [04:40] how does that happen? [04:40] Someone or something chowned the directory, I'd guess. [04:40] grep: /etc/passw: No such file or directory [04:40] You left off the trailing letter "d" [04:41] oh [04:41] nothing happened [04:41] weird b/c this is my personal laptop that no one else uses [04:41] Interesting. OK, let's try this command sudo chown -R sensi4sale:sensi4sale /home/sensi4sale [04:42] Give it your password when it asks you for it. [04:43] chown: cannot access `/home/sensi4sale/.gvfs': Permission denied [04:43] That's probably OK. Now try running nicotine, I think it will work now. [04:45] Did it work? [04:46] yay! it worked! [04:46] magic! [04:46] thanks alot jmarsden [04:46] Good. Not really magic, you just have a home directory that is owned by you, which is what programs expect :) You're welcome. [04:48] i'm glad it wasnt hack or something [04:49] ok guten nacht === quem_ is now known as quem === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett [07:29] I am not able to install lubuntu10.10. I am trying to install it using USB but get a blue screen with lubuntu in the middle. My system just stays on that screen. Any help on this issue ? [07:32] wolfpack, you should describe this situation a little more [07:36] First, I downloaded lubuntu 10.10 iso from the lubunt wiki page. Then I made my USB bootable using startup disk creator of ubuntu10.04. After that I booted my computer, I get lubuntu screen with installation procedure. I selected the "installation lubuntu "option. Finally, I got a bligth blue scrren with lubuntu logo and title in middle. This screen stays for forever. I am not able to move ahead. [07:36] use Unetbootin [07:37] and m mm [07:37] you have your system installed, right? [07:37] which system? ubuntu10.04 or lubuntu ? [07:39] bioterror: ^ [07:43] lubuntu [07:43] or where does it crash [07:43] after grub, what [07:43] lxdm? [08:00] bioterror: I am not able to install lubuntu [08:02] During installation procedure , I am stuck in blue screen . [08:10] right after login or what [08:11] can you start ubiquity? [08:11] no [08:11] try acpi=off [08:11] or something like that [08:12] where to use this command? [08:12] in kernel line in grub [10:49] hi guys. just installed ubuntu with lxde and having some substantial problems .... it works perfectly from live cd .... when I install I get flooded by local_softirq_pending 08 errors ... [10:50] hi guys. just installed ubuntu with lxde and having some substantial problems .... it works perfectly from live cd .... when I install I get flooded by local_softirq_pending 08 errors ... [11:25] ct529, sounds weird [11:26] ct529, I got a hint, are you there? [11:35] bioterror: back, I was on the other computer trying to fix it [11:35] ct529, you should try to add nohz=off to your boot parameters, right after ro splash quiet [11:35] bioterror: thanks a lot, I will try [11:35] bioterror: the problem is that after installation I cannot even use sudo [11:35] you can try it from grub first [11:35] bioterror: HOW? [11:35] bioterror: sorry, how? [11:35] right after BIOS screen, press left shift [11:36] you should enter to tgrub [11:36] then you can edit the line by pressing e, add nohz=off and press ctrl+x as it suggests to boot [11:38] bioterror: what is tgroub? [11:38] grub [11:38] I had a lag [11:38] :D [11:38] bioterror: do i have to go to recovery mode? [11:38] nope [11:38] you choose to edit the normal [11:39] bioterror: how do ~I update the grub so that it will always use that paramenter? [11:39] sudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg [11:39] save it and sudo update-grub [11:39] or is it that [11:39] njaeh, that's just a bandage [11:40] ahhhh [11:40] /etc/default/grub [11:40] GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" [11:40] add it to there [11:40] IF IT WORKS! ;D [11:41] if it doesnt, then we have to think more [11:46] bioterror: shall I switch off the acpi as well? [11:46] njaeh [11:47] let it be [11:47] bioterror: ok [11:47] but did that work? [11:47] I assume you have booted already [11:51] bioterror: yes, but I get an error no ipv6 router present [11:51] oh, that's another case then :D [11:52] bioterror: the error just changed .... but stuck again .... what does that even mean???? [11:52] what's the error now? [11:52] eth0: no ipv6 routers present [11:53] and everything is stuck [11:58] I do not even know what it means .... [11:58] thanks a lot for your help! [11:58] it means that it cant find ipv6 router [11:58] ipv6 should be disabled from the kernel [11:59] bioterror: what can I do? can I disable it from the grub boot line? [11:59] mmmm [11:59] http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/how-to-disable-ipv6-in-ubuntu-910.html might be a worth to try [12:01] bioterror: thanks a lot .... I have to go (dentist!) .... hope to see you later! [13:17] in lubuntu , which version of grub is used ? [13:18] it says grub2 [13:18] 1.9x if I remember right [13:19] Version: 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu3 [13:19] ok === adi_ is now known as wolfapck === wolfapck is now known as wolfpack [13:21] bioterror: I have messed up my whole grub after installation of lubunt [13:21] how's that [13:21] My grub hasbeen messed up. In starting, I had windows 7 and ubuntu 10.04 .After that i installed Lubuntu 10.10 , my grub was ok till tahat time> After some updates in lubuntu I lost ubuntu and win7 from grub.Then i tried to reinstall the grub using "UBUNTU 10.04 USB" and using this link "http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708" .Now I am getting black screen while I try to boot. [13:22] Currently I am using USB to run ubuntu10.04 [13:24] why not just os-prober [13:24] what ? [13:25] you had your lubuntu, you should have just run os-prober and then update-grub [13:26] I was not aware about od-prober at that time :( [13:26] os-prober * [13:28] bioterror: Is there anyway ledt to solve this issue ? [13:29] you have one working installation atm? [13:29] No, I am not able to boot in. I am using USB rigth now [13:29] you need to chroot [13:30] I ran os-probe and got following msg http://paste.ubuntu.com/561927/ [13:31] What should me my new root ? [13:34] have you mounted the required dev's and then chrooted into some of the systems? [13:34] one of the systems [13:34] just like recovering ubuntu from windows installation [13:36] bioterror: I follwed this link to mount and reinstall grub -"http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708" [13:36] something like that [13:43] bioterror: I am into the ubuntu 10.04 terminal using this link "http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/howto-use-chroot-431293/#post2182864" .Will this help? [13:43] you tell me? ;) [13:44] but if you can boot with previous guide to some of the ubuntus [13:44] why not boot into it and run os-prober [13:44] just asking [13:45] I able to see all the directories of my old ubuntu10.04 . but Don't know what to do. It tried running os -prober but got error "grep: /proc/mounts: No such file or directory Cannot find list of partitions!" [14:01] bioterror: Now, I am able to login into old ubuntu 10.04 . But could not find my new Lubuntu in grub list. What should I do now to get all the os in grub list ? [14:01] sudo apt-get install os-prober [14:01] sudo os-prober [14:01] sudo update-grub [14:02] update-grub have removed some of the entries [14:02] trust me on this one [14:05] I have 4 OS .Ubuntu 10.04, lubunt 10.10 , win XP< Win 7.But when i run the above command I am not getting win 7. You can check the ouput -"http://paste.ubuntu.com/561950/" [14:06] bioterror: ^ === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett === JoeMaverickSett is now known as Maverick === Maverick is now known as JoeMaverickSett [16:58] hi all [16:58] hi [16:58] can someone help a newbie... [16:58] !ask | youssef [16:58] youssef: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [16:59] [Q] How can i rename icons on my desktop... [16:59] click that icon with right mouse button (button #2) edit with leafpad [16:59] and change the Name=ToAnyThingYouWantItToe [17:00] Thanks Ive done that, changed e.g. Firefox Webbrowser to Internet [17:00] but nothing changed... [17:00] really? [17:00] do i have to reset/reboot anything [17:01] yep [17:01] [Desktop Entry] [17:01] Version=1.0 [17:01] Name=Internet [17:01] nope [17:01] should affect [17:02] hmm 1 out of 3 applications works... [17:02] ~% cp /usr/share/applications/chromium-browser.desktop ~/Desktop [17:02] ~% cp /usr/share/applications/chromium-browser.desktop ~/Desktop [17:02] sorry [17:02] and I just renamed the Chromium Web Browser to "Internetz" and saved [17:04] hmm, command not found I type your command but firefox.desktop instead [17:04] cause thats how my .desktop is named in my folder [17:04] (i checked that) [17:05] awww!! got it :$ [17:05] Not an English installation, so its under Name[xx] where xx is the language prefix [17:08] [Q] Ive installed Nvidia drivers for my GPU, works fine, but after reboot my font size (DPI?) is huge! Tried to change it at several places, including in openbox configuration manager... [17:11] I've got no experience with nvidia [17:11] ok, well thanks bioterror! talk soon [17:12] you shoud search from ubuntuforums [17:12] there might be answer === Timo__ is now known as Timo_ === Timo_ is now known as Guest4010 [17:56] hello all! [18:00] D33R, hi [18:02] hi bioterror, I'm new on lxde [18:03] we all have to start frm somewhere [18:03] from [18:03] sure [18:03] do you have any question ins your mind [18:03] not yet [18:03] in a few minutes :P [18:04] D33R, you might want to check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ it has few tweaks and tricks [18:10] bioterror: I'm going to ckeck the link [18:10] I'm not new on linux, but I'm going to take a look anyway ;) [19:12] Is or are there any plans to include LibreOffice in the repository? [19:13] add ppa? [19:14] I guess [19:14] it should come for the natty, I think [19:15] http://www.libreoffice.org/ *Software Center [19:16] http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ < there is a .gz and .tar there. [19:17] my internet turned to slow [19:17] https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/ppa [19:17] Mine just got slow also...but thank you. [19:19] I am on a an oldish desktop, trying to run stuff at minimal Requirements for testing purposes. [19:19] how's your testing doing, then [19:21] Fantastic, I reduced the Memory Calls by %22, CPU by %12, have it all backed up and ready to do that Minimal and then add the changes in, then I guess I need to show or give the results to the LXDE team. [19:22] another satisfied lubuntu user! ;) [19:22] I tested the Debian LXDE live, I was hooked then. [19:22] I've tried few LXDE desktop and Lubuntu seems to be most complete of them all [19:23] do you try fedora with lxde? [19:23] I've tried Salix, OpenSuSe and what else there's [19:24] Now I am rolling that new one, then I am testing GhostBSD, they have a new installer and some other neat installer features that allow or permit more flexibility [19:24] oh yeah, Sabayon had it too [19:27] I could not get Fedora 11 to load the LXDE, but I was working on two servers and three other boxes then. [19:27] ghostbsd is yet another FreeBSD running something on live envinronment [19:27] what kernel do you use guys? [19:27] 2.6.35-26 seems to be in use 10.10 [19:27] Yes, is rather new, but looks promising, Ghost is just the Gnome version of PC-BSD, sorta. [19:27] mmm, mine us 2.6.35.26 [19:27] mmm, mine us 2.6.35.25 [19:30] and i haven't got any update [19:30] 2.6.32.28 here [19:30] 10.04 [19:30] natty had 2.6.38 [19:31] I got 10.10, I don know why a don't have the update for the kernel [19:31] I like even numbers [19:32] becouse I'm using proposals and other stuff [19:33] Sounds like it, you are on 10.10? [19:33] I am [19:33] 24hours ago I was using natty :D [19:33] how its work? [19:33] no problems for me, I think [19:33] except blank plymouth :D [19:37] I will try in one vbox [19:37] This Psychcats has a good article on something like that, still looking:> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde [19:38] yeah [19:38] I've mostly just sudo apt-get purge gnome\* or kde\* [19:40] I don't like to mix anything, allways use KDE and now I migrate to LXDE [19:40] with a fresh intall [19:40] install* [19:40] I like that minimal approach. [19:41] but should we move offtopic dicussions to #lubuntu-offtopic as this channel is for the support [19:42] k [19:44] ;help [20:37] !grep | phillw [20:37] phillw: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [20:37] :D [20:41] guys, I have one question [20:42] how can I change the name of the lxterminal? [20:42] what name [20:42] window name [20:42] you mean that there should read something in the title of the window [20:42] right [20:43] I have there which tty I'm using, which directory and last command [20:45] mine shows LXTerminal in the window title [20:46] right click -> name tab [20:48] this change the name of the tab, but I dont use tabs :( [20:48] ha [20:49] ~% lxterminal -t "I luv bioterror" [20:50] :D [20:51] let me check :P [20:52] does it work? ;) [20:52] you can edit your lxterminal.desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ [20:56] nothing [20:56] no way [20:56] I think I need to close all terminal and try [20:56] nope [20:59] It works [20:59] in the line tryexec [21:00] how can I do to title shows the current directory? [21:00] ahhh, those can be done with shell's [21:01] and using real terminals like rxvt-unicode ;) [21:08] starting to customize urxvt [21:27] bioterror: tanks for the help [21:27] thanks* [21:27] np === szczur_ is now known as szczur [22:46] i don't see the fonts good.hard to read it will not go bigger then fonts size 14 [22:46] if i click on bigger it not go bigger also not after restart [22:47] i have not good eyes its a problem for me [22:48] i have xchat and use lubuntu