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charlie-tcain college to become a sign language interpreter00:00
charlie-tcaYou are in the right place, johnny77 00:02
johnny77charlie-tca: thank you. 00:02
johnny77maco: I heard that you were working on some stuff for Deaf accessibility. I'm studying to become a sign language interpreter and was just curious on what you are working on. 00:04
macoi just wrote sign language teaching software and brought back the UI for enabling visual system bell (because auditory one is useless if deaf)00:04
macocool stuff totally out of my league would be sign-to-text software (which does exist, some folks are using Kinect for it and one of my profs mentioned some researches i think at BU who were doing it with webcams)00:05
hajourmaco i am busy to make a plan so that deaf people also can use speechcontrol without to have to sit down before the pc.like being on the other side of the room and still know what the pc says in way of speaking00:09
johnny77Being more of a beginner, and not knowing any programming languages, I was thinking more of sign language tutorials, but it looks like you are way ahead of me. 00:11
macoat the moment word lists for lessons would be very handy00:11
macothen people who can sign can just go through the list and record the signs withut having to first think "hmm what would be a useful sign?"00:12
hajouri just have idea s and then pull people who can make it00:12
hajourwhat if it are no signs but something you feel maco .:)00:13
hajourgive me a week or 2 weeks and then i can tell more maco 00:13
hajourjohnny77, ^00:15
hajourjohnny77,  i have in speechcontrol also students :)00:16
hajourbtw johnny77  maco knows a lot :)00:17
johnny77Cool, I'm intrigued with the sign language aspect of the accessibility. Not sure if I'd be able to help much, but maybe keep me in the back of your mind. If you need a list of words signed or something. 00:19
johnny77BTW: I'm learning American Sign Language. 00:20
macothats what i use00:20
macobtw #gally for my app00:20
johnny77I gotta set away for a few minutes... I'll try to get back on in a little bit. 00:21
macokk00:21
hajourjohnny77,  have you signed the coc key?00:25
hajouri  am going to sleep now goodnight all:)00:44
johnny77Sorry, I'm back.00:46
johnny77hajour: If you're still on, yes I have. 00:47
hajourok :) i have always 24 hours a day mostly chats on because of irc channel00:49
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Ronniei created a google map with pointers to specific items (http://people.ubuntu.com/~ronnie.vd.c/map.html). this map maybe will be used by other communities in the future, but i want to know how this map behaves toghether with accessibility tools. How can i make this map more accessible?14:06
hajourcprofitt may i give ubuntu to the primary school here in this village?14:28
hajouri have not asked yet because i first wanted to know or i may give it free14:28
cprofitthajour: I would assume so, but I am not aware of their rules and regs14:28
cprofittUbuntu is FOSS so you are allowed to from an Ubuntu perspective14:29
hajourschools pc s are on low lvl here 2001 windows system14:29
Pendulumshould be fine from an Ubuntu perspective14:29
Pendulummore a question of what the school thinks and if there are people there who can support it14:29
hajourand goverment is again giving less money. 300 million less on all schools14:30
Pendulumhajour: they might do better with edubuntu than regular Ubuntu14:30
hajourok then i go call the director from the school now :) 14:30
hajourthanks cprofitt and Pendulum 14:31
hajouri only not nowyet how i can get the discs14:31
hajourPendulum,  he want only on paper that  ubuntu gives it to the school. XD and first look what programs ubuntu have or it is useble 14:35
hajourcprofitt^14:35
hajouri understand he want it on paper because of the legal aspect . he have to explain on paper to the government14:37
hajourcprofitt i mean .forgot to put space in14:37
AlanBellhajour: you can get disks from shipit.ubuntu.com14:40
hajourif i succeed then probably all primary schools go over on ubuntu in this province14:41
hajour:))14:41
hajouri will ask help from UndiFineD 14:41
AlanBellwell good luck, but it is hard14:41
hajourwell the director was very interested AlanBell 14:42
hajouri don't think it will be hard .all is in ubuntu thought14:42
Pendulumhajour: I'm going to ask in #ubuntu-community-team if there's a contact at Canonical that might be able to help you14:43
hajourok Pendulum :)14:43
hajourhave i to go there to or just wait in accessibility Pendulum ?14:44
Pendulumhajour: feel free to join in :)14:45
hajourfirst time i will people convince to use ubuntu my kids not count in ofcourse14:45
hajourok Pendulum :)14:45
hajourPendulum,  i dont know how to start14:46
hajourhow to say in english14:46
Pendulumhajour: I just did the basic bit in what I asked14:47
hajouryes was it good i have tell the rest to or have i tell to much?14:51
PendulumI think you've said enough14:53
hajouryak i am to excited making more mistakes in writhing because of that14:53
hajouryak= bah14:53
PendulumI knew what you meant :)14:53
hajour:)14:55
hajourPendulum,  if i succeed there will come a domino effect. then more schools go use it15:00
hajourin netherland15:00
cprofitthold on...15:00
JanCschools will probably want a company to give support though15:01
cprofitthttp://www.slideshare.net/indigo196/ed-tech-201015:01
cprofittthat might help with schools15:01
cprofittthough it is US centric15:01
hajourwell  this was what ubuntu wanted thought15:01
cprofitthttp://www.slideshare.net/indigo196/fosscon15:02
hajourand children learnon school use ubuntu and they are the future15:02
hajourreading :)15:02
hajouris there also in dutch?15:03
hajourit are i mean th education15:04
Ronniehajour: from http://edubuntu.org/about "If you have any copyright concerns or questions, then you are always more than welcome to contact us about it."15:04
hajouror need we to translate so fast as possible?15:04
hajouri mean the kids getting lessons in dutch not english15:05
JanCit's probabl better to adapt current dutch lessons to Ubuntu15:06
Ronniehajour: i think you can get much information from http://ict.hethooghuis.nl/ they started to test ubuntu(or edubuntu) deploying in school around the city oss15:07
JanCif they want to share lessosn, that would certainly be cool15:08
hajouryes JanC 15:08
cprofittRonnie: there is more to education and Open than edubuntu15:08
hajourbut al need to be in dutch15:08
cprofittOpen Coureware, Open Curriculum, etc15:09
Ronniehajour: i think you your first step should be contacting hooghuis15:09
cprofitthttp://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm15:09
hajouri have the feeling this will become a major job15:09
cprofittI try to get people invovled from the curriculum angle first...15:09
cprofittthen slip the software in15:10
hajouri will .but i need to wait till tomorrow .primary schools are closed now15:10
JanCRonnie: I guess the people from that school also were involved with the release parties in Oss ?15:10
RonnieJanC: yes they were. i spoke shortly with them15:10
Ronniethey were very entausiast about ubuntu15:11
hajourjan and ronnie will you help me with this to do all good?15:11
JanChajour: I think Ronnie can get you and the school you talk about in contact with the school in Oss15:12
hajourok that would be nice JanC  and Ronnie :)15:12
hajourif this succeed i will go more schools in friesland15:13
hajourgo call i mean15:13
hajourbut if i need to go to oss how will i come there then ?15:13
Ronniehajour: you can start mailing them15:14
hajouryes with that i need help from UndiFineD 15:14
Ronniemaybe after the first contact, the school itself can contact to hooghuis about that stuff. if they can share ideas and solutions that will be very cool15:15
hajourdos google maps need accessibility help cprofitt?15:17
hajouryes Ronnie :)15:17
Ronniehajour: here more information about "nederland open in verbinding (noiv)" which is a gouverment organization about open standards and open source: https://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/view/NOiV/Artikel%20Open%20source%20in%20opkomst%20in%20onderwijs%20Europa15:21
Ronniehttps://wiki.noiv.nl/xwiki/bin/view/NOiV/Onderwijs15:22
hajouri have called to noiv but they are in a meeting now so i call tomorrow back15:28
hajourcprofitt,  ^15:29
hajourand Pendulum  ^15:29
Pendulumhajour: sounds like a plan :)15:31
hajouri already busy :P15:32
hajourwith it15:32
hajourAlanBell,  how the speechprograms are now from ubuntu?15:32
hajour1 of them good already?15:32
hajourPendulum,  i hope you will not be annoyed and cprofitt  but i have say to the school i had asked permission to my boss from here to do this.else the director had not listen to me.i have said i am volunteer :P15:36
Pendulumhajour: it's fine :)15:36
* Pendulum goes to run errands15:36
hajourok Pendulum  till later :)15:37
hajourcprofitt,  the school boards som e of theme are electronic and need to be able to make contact to the pc s16:11
hajouri wonder or ubuntu is asble to do that16:12
hajouri need to do  errands  to and after that cooking and eating diner16:14
hajourtill later :)16:14
cprofitthey jono 16:26
jonohey cprofitt16:30
cprofitthow have ya been?16:31
hajourtesting if the fonts are bigger now 18:09
hajourAlanBell,  the fonts from xchat cant be put bigger then 14 that is a problem for me18:11
hajouri need at least 1618:11
hajouri already going see more worse then normal because i have to very concentrate with half closed eyes to see chat18:13
charlie-tcahajour: Using xchat in Xubuntu, I put the fonts at 6418:19
charlie-tcaand it worked18:19
hajouri cant use xubuntu charlie-tca  i got not enough processor power21:35
charlie-tcabut xchat still should be able to resize fonts big. Not the gnome-xchat, though, maybe.21:36
hajouri have xchat charlie-tca 21:39
hajouri click  bigger fonts on and then restart xchat but it stays on font 14 size21:40
charlie-tcathat's strange. Mine get bigger. I can that a serious bug, too.21:47
hajouri can hardly read now because its not go to size 1621:51
charlie-tcaI can understand that. Can AlanBell do anything there?22:17
hajouri don't know charlie-tca  and UndiFineD  also not know why it  is not working22:20
charlie-tcaCan you or UndiFineD file a bug report using        ubuntu-bug xchat    22:21
charlie-tcaand tell me the number?22:21
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hajourUndiFineD,  is to his bed alraedy22:30
charlie-tcaIt can wait, I will send it to the xchat developers when I get it22:32
hajourok charlie-tca 22:34

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