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| straszheim | have a docs bug | 04:44 |
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| straszheim | this page -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall | 04:45 |
| straszheim | On Beagleboard xM rev A3 and B, the wgets are to the wrong directories | 04:45 |
| straszheim | they're right, but reversed | 04:45 |
| persia | straszheim, Would you mind correcting that? | 05:09 |
| straszheim | np | 05:13 |
| persia | Thanks! | 05:16 |
| straszheim | after a solid week of trying to get things built for a gumstix I have to say that install was pretty awesome. | 05:27 |
| persia | I heard of someone running on a gumstix before. Did you have to do anything special to the image, or did it mostly just work? | 05:29 |
| straszheim | ah, no, i mean the omap3/maverick install was awesome because it worked and took a few hours. gumstix is unplugged, major fail | 05:30 |
| persia | Which gumstix do you have? | 05:31 |
| straszheim | verdex pro | 05:31 |
| straszheim | armv5te iirrc | 05:31 |
| persia | Indeed. Debian ought be not too hard to get running on that. | 05:32 |
| persia | I think the omap3 images work on the Overos, but I haven't seen enough confirmation to be sure: none of the regulars on this channel seems to use one with Ubuntu. | 05:33 |
| straszheim | is there a recommended way to strip the gui stuff out of this install? This thing is intended to run headless. I'm considering just removing x11-common. | 05:37 |
| straszheim | that'll take a ton of stuff with it | 05:37 |
| jhobbs | check out tasksel | 05:40 |
| straszheim | ah nice | 05:40 |
| straszheim | thx | 05:40 |
| persia | I'd recommend making sure ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-minimal are installed, and then removing ubuntu-netbook and all it's dependencies (avoiding removing -standard and -minimal) | 05:41 |
| persia | From there you can build up again. | 05:41 |
| straszheim | sounds good | 05:42 |
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| rsalveti | straszheim: I'm reverting your change | 09:15 |
| rsalveti | the first sd card partition should have the uImage, not vmlinuz | 09:15 |
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| ogra | http://projects.goldelico.com/p/ombeagle/ | 14:45 |
| rsalveti | ogra: cool! | 14:56 |
| ogra | yep | 14:57 |
| ogra | waiting for the panda version :) | 14:57 |
| janimo | rsalveti, wrt https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-arm-n-handle-core-boot-files-update | 15:11 |
| janimo | is that tool suipposed to do what flash-kernel currently does but for uboot binaries ? | 15:11 |
| rsalveti | janimo: moving it for you | 15:11 |
| rsalveti | kind of | 15:11 |
| rsalveti | because u-boot and x-loader is not updated | 15:12 |
| rsalveti | just the kernel | 15:12 |
| * janimo wonders if code can be reused from flash-kernel at all | 15:12 | |
| rsalveti | janimo: yup, that's why you need to talk with NCommander later, to check the flash kernel and the sub arch detect code | 15:13 |
| rsalveti | to see what can be shared | 15:13 |
| janimo | ok | 15:14 |
| ogra | rsalveti, we should just seed them and make sure they are on the image worst case ... then people can at least manually update | 15:19 |
| rsalveti | ogra: but the idea is to have a tool to manually update the core boot files | 15:20 |
| rsalveti | shouldn't be that hard | 15:20 |
| ogra | indeed | 15:20 |
| ogra | but if we dont manage, seeding should at least get us a step forward | 15:20 |
| rsalveti | yup, true | 15:20 |
| janimo | ogra, seeding all? For instance for omap3 image seed all the omap3 based xloader/uboot binaries? | 15:54 |
| ogra | janimo, well, we cant be that distinctive in the seeds (seeds dont support subarches) | 15:55 |
| ogra | so we would need to seed all | 15:55 |
| janimo | ok | 15:56 |
| ogra | the point is that apt-get update will get you the latest binaries on disk | 15:56 |
| ogra | so even without the desired script we would have them available for manual tinkering | 15:56 |
| janimo | I am thinking having them on the disk and then adding a post install hook like flash-kernel would solve this | 15:56 |
| ogra | right | 15:56 |
| ogra | that was the initial plan | 15:57 |
| ogra | but if we dont have time for the flash-kernel bit, at least seeding should be done | 15:57 |
| rsalveti | janimo: we don't want a post install hook | 15:57 |
| rsalveti | we want the user to manually update the files | 15:58 |
| rsalveti | avoid problems | 15:58 |
| ogra | right | 15:58 |
| rsalveti | and a lot easier to implement | 15:58 |
| ogra | just a script | 15:58 |
| janimo | rsalveti, so not the same ease and transparency s grub is installed with? | 16:02 |
| janimo | ok | 16:02 |
| rsalveti | yeah, we want a script that the user can trigger by hand | 16:03 |
| janimo | or rather ease, but not automatic | 16:03 |
| rsalveti | and we also want to notify the user about such update | 16:03 |
| janimo | ack | 16:03 |
| ogra | we dont update grub stage 1 | 16:03 |
| ogra | there is no such ease ;) | 16:03 |
| lool | rsalveti: Hey, would you know whether USB storage is fully stable on xm now? | 16:23 |
| ogra | lool, given that the buildds use it ... | 16:23 |
| lool | We use xms as buildds now? | 16:23 |
| ogra | you should know it :) | 16:23 |
| ogra | they come from linaro afaik | 16:23 |
| ogra | see https://launchpad.net/builders | 16:24 |
| lool | ogra: how do I know they are xms? | 16:24 |
| ogra | lamont | 16:24 |
| lool | Ok, so https://launchpad.net/builders doesn't help much I guess | 16:24 |
| ogra | the arm team helped him to bring them up | 16:25 |
| ogra | well, it shows that there are 15 instead of 8 now | 16:25 |
| ogra | indeed it doesnt show the arch | 16:25 |
| GrueMaster | The *ceae systems are the new ones. | 16:26 |
| ogra | right | 16:26 |
| ogra | i was just looking for the naming convention | 16:26 |
| ogra | had noted it somewhere | 16:26 |
| ndec | ogra: lool: I didn't know the builders moved to XM! | 16:27 |
| ogra | ndec, on *the builders* | 16:27 |
| ogra | s/on/not | 16:28 |
| lool | Well /builders is confusing | 16:28 |
| ogra | ndec, linaro added 6 XM builders to the queue so their rebuilds dont impact the distro | 16:28 |
| lool | ogra: they are shared though, right? | 16:28 |
| ogra | ndec, we are still waiting for the panda cluster | 16:28 |
| ogra | lool, yep | 16:28 |
| ndec | lool: i was about that too. | 16:28 |
| lool | ndec: we have two types of buildds | 16:28 |
| ogra | lool, but can be used dedicated as i understood | 16:29 |
| lool | ndec: some for packages and some for images | 16:29 |
| lool | we can actually share them, but we usually don't | 16:29 |
| lool | and offspring/linaro don't use these for image builds, but another separate pool -- let's call them offspring builders | 16:29 |
| ogra | lool, so during archive rebuild tests they wont be shared | 16:29 |
| ndec | lool: ok, and the one for the packages are split between archive and PPA? | 16:29 |
| lool | ndec: Yes | 16:29 |
| lool | ndec: That's only on ARM because these are non-virtual | 16:29 |
| lool | on other arches, they are actually separate | 16:30 |
| ogra | ndec, though your PPA builders are the two at the very bottom of the /builders page | 16:30 |
| ogra | they are not in the normal builder pool | 16:30 |
| GrueMaster | Actually, there are two dedicated ppa buildds, according to the link above. | 16:30 |
| ndec | ogra: did they moved to XM too? | 16:30 |
| ogra | ndec, nope | 16:30 |
| GrueMaster | wait, nevermind. | 16:31 |
| GrueMaster | eyes are blurry. need more coffee. | 16:31 |
| ogra | GrueMaster, the two are for private PPAs | 16:32 |
| GrueMaster | Ah, there they are, at the bottom. I had sorted by arch and thought I saw two, but then they disappeared. Thought my eyes were bugging out. | 16:33 |
| ogra | heh | 16:34 |
| ogra | ndec, they will likely move to pandas once we have them | 16:37 |
| lool | ndec: Sorry, I was confused, we're using separate PPA builders nowadays it seems | 17:01 |
| ogra | lool, depends on the PPA | 17:03 |
| lool | ogra: How so? | 17:04 |
| ogra | see PM | 17:05 |
| rsalveti | lool: it should be, the only issue atm is that the driver is allocating a lot of memory when you stress the ethernet or usb | 17:27 |
| rsalveti | and some times you can see the traces, but not something that breaks | 17:27 |
| rsalveti | same problem we have with panda, as it's the same driver | 17:28 |
| lool | Ok thanks | 17:28 |
| rsalveti | lool: but I'd say beagle in general is a lot more stable than panda | 17:29 |
| rsalveti | and I think we didn't face any major issues with the builders | 17:29 |
| rsalveti | I'm impressed by the amount of bug reports for unity-2d since it was released | 17:33 |
| rsalveti | seems people are really using it | 17:33 |
| slangasek | ogra: hey there, another question on historic qemu packaging. You have another sysctl here for 'vm.vdso_enabled = 0' with the reason "else chroot execution fails" - how did it fail, how can I verify if this is still needed? | 17:56 |
| ogra | slangasek, hmm, did i actually add that ? | 17:56 |
| slangasek | ogra: in karmic, yes | 17:57 |
| ogra | hmm, i think i had that from the maemo ML somewhere | 17:57 |
| ogra | let me dig | 17:57 |
| slangasek | ogra: thanks | 17:58 |
| ogra | http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo5_alpha_installation/#sboxissue | 17:59 |
| ogra | http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3479 | 18:00 |
| ubot2 | bugs.maemo.org bug 3479 in SDK "SDK does not work on Debian lenny system" [Major,Resolved: fixed] | 18:00 |
| ogra | might not be needed anymore | 18:00 |
| ogra | since it refers to intrepid | 18:01 |
| ogra | slangasek, ^^^ | 18:04 |
| slangasek | ogra: so is this specific to scratchbox in some way? | 18:05 |
| ogra | i had the same error in rootstock/qemu back then, else i wouldnt have added it | 18:06 |
| slangasek | ok | 18:06 |
| ogra | i would suggest a test on amd64 | 18:06 |
| ogra | i'm not sure its still valid | 18:06 |
| slangasek | well, testing how? | 18:07 |
| slangasek | and on amd64 we don't set this at all, the key doesn't exist in /proc/sys on amd64 | 18:07 |
| ogra | seems related to the glibc in side the VM | 18:07 |
| slangasek | VM? | 18:07 |
| slangasek | should be a chroot not a VM, yes? | 18:07 |
| ogra | err, yes, sorry | 18:07 |
| ogra | the bug seems to also rather suggest to set it to 2 instead of 0 | 18:09 |
| ogra | looking at the last comment | 18:09 |
| ogra | i would actually drop it and look out for related bugs | 18:10 |
| ogra | its natty after all ;) | 18:10 |
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