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c2tarunI was trying to pack bluedevil, I didn't understand one thing. What is the differece b/w building a package via debuild and pbuilder-dist?02:19
kklimondac2tarun: debuild builds the package on your system, pbuilder creates a chroot in which the package is built.02:21
c2tarunkklimonda: how can i put my package into REVU for reviewing?02:23
kklimonda!revu02:23
ubottuREVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU02:23
kklimondac2tarun: ^02:24
c2tarunkklimonda: I was actually reading that page only :) its written there two motu members have to comment it. Can't we get it commented here on IRC?02:24
micahgc2tarun: comment in this case means advocate and they have to be able to examine the package02:25
c2tarunmicahg: ok, and a line 'dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot' I think this command will create .change file and I have on change file with me inside natty_results folder. Are they the same?02:27
micahgc2tarun: no, you need a source upload02:27
micahgerr, that should be the right command though...02:28
* micahg uses debuild -S --sa02:28
micahgoops, 1 dash02:28
c2tarunmicahg: I used that already before running pbuilder, now running it again will make any difference?02:29
micahgc2tarun: you don't run it again, you need to upload the source_changes file to revu when you think it's ready02:29
c2tarunmicahg: ok, and I am also trying a application directly from its source code, its a new one 'schedio'. I think I dont have source_chages file with me, all I have is schedio_2.0.0-0ubuntu1_i386.changes file02:32
micahgc2tarun: that's a binary changes file02:32
micahgerr, that's a build record...02:32
c2tarunmicahg: if that's a build rlsecord02:33
c2tarunsorry02:33
c2tarunmicahg: if that's a build record then what is last_operation.log?02:33
micahgerr, not a build record, it's a binary changes file :)02:33
* micahg was right the first time02:34
micahgc2tarun: Ubuntu only accepts source uploads02:34
c2tarunmicahg: ok i got the source.changes file, its not in natty_results but the folder containing the orig tarball :)02:34
micahgc2tarun: it'll be in the same folder as the .dsc file02:34
c2tarunmicahg: one last thing, I am not sure that the developer supplied us with any documentation for man pages, how can I check?02:35
micahgc2tarun: I don't know the various pre-man documentation forms yet02:36
c2tarunmicahg: you don't know or I am wrong, there are no man documents before packaging?02:36
micahgc2tarun: upstream can provide various documentation that can be turned into a manpage or they can provide their own man page, I don't know all the details yet02:37
micahgc2tarun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Man%20Pages02:37
c2tarunmicahg: what if someone uploaded the source.changes file without proper man pages?02:38
micahgc2tarun: it'll probably be commented on02:38
c2tarunmicahg: ok, thanks :)02:38
micahgc2tarun: here's the Debian policy manual on man pages, Ubuntu's a little more lenient, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s12.102:40
c2tarunmicahg: ubuntu is linient in a way that missing man pages is not considered a bug :)? After reading the packaging documentation I found no .pod files or .bz2 in whole source code? What should I do, build the package and test it on myself first or right away report to the upstream that man pages are missing?02:46
c2tarunping02:53
micahgc2tarun: you could write a manpage also :)02:55
c2tarunmicahg: I never used that application, :( anyway i'll ask upstream for man pages and delay my upload till they supply me the man pages :)02:56
micahgc2tarun: you can get the rest of it reviewed in the mean time02:57
c2tarunmicahg: grt :) so I should just upload the source.changes file?02:57
micahgc2tarun: well, you dput the source.changes file and that uploades the source02:58
c2tarunmicahg: Ok, i'll do it :)02:58
c2tarunmicahg: I uploaded it but couldn't find it on revuwire.com03:01
c2tarunmicahg: sorry revu.ubuntuwire.com03:01
micahgc2tarun: did you get an e-mail?03:01
c2tarunmicahg: not yet03:02
micahgah, it's there now03:03
micahghttp://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/schedio03:04
micahgc2tarun: why do you have a debian collab-maint git repo listed?03:05
c2tarunmicahg: its from the developer side, I didn't removed it.03:05
micahgc2tarun: what do you mean, didn't you create debian/control?03:06
* micahg will comment later on it03:06
c2tarunmicahg: I did, but still dh_make filled some fields by default, so i thought that it may be from the developer :(03:07
micahgc2tarun: no, dh_make creates a basic template, you're supposed to make sure what it did was sane and change whatever is necessary03:07
c2tarunmicahg: ok, so my first error, I'll surely remove it in my next upload with man documentation. Any other error?03:08
micahgc2tarun: take a look at revu, it shows the lintian errors, also check the README.* files in debian/03:08
c2tarunmicahg: ok watch file is missing. but I don't understand the error about maintainer field?03:10
micahgc2tarun: you need to run update-maintainer03:10
c2tarunmicahg: ok, done. but sir I need some documentation or guidance for watch files, I never used them before.03:12
micahgc2tarun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Creating%20and%20Using%20a%20debian/watch%20File03:13
micahgc2tarun: you might want to bookmark that wiki page :)03:13
c2tarunmicahg: sure sir, I already corrected the other two errors, one is of collab-maint git repo and other is of maintainer name and sir do u think I should remove both the README files?03:14
c2tarunmicahg: sure I just read those two file and removed it :)03:15
micahgc2tarun: idk, BTW, I've never packaged anything from scratch :), it's generally a good idea to fix any lintian errors in new packages, so if lintian doesn't warn about a lack of a README, you're usually ok03:16
guspurgood day03:49
guspurassalamualaikum03:49
c2tarunI am getting this error in watch file http://paste.ubuntu.com/561749/   this is my watch file http://paste.ubuntu.com/561750/04:35
c2tarunerror is when I am uscaning the watch file04:36
LaserJockhi all, how goes it?04:59
RAOFc2tarun: You probably want to use uscan's html-scraping mode; see gnome-do's watch file for an example of doing that with Launchpad.05:01
RAOFHey LaserJock.  What's up?05:01
LaserJocknot a lot, thought I'd see how things were going in MOTU world05:02
LaserJockRAOF: how have you been?05:06
RAOFPretty good.05:07
LaserJockyou working for Canonical?05:07
RAOFYeah!  On X.05:07
RAOF'Tis fun.05:07
RAOFThere's not so much motu-ing for me, though.  I accidentally let my membership lapse.05:08
c2tarunRAOF: can u please tell me where i can get that watch file?05:08
LaserJockuh oh :-)05:08
RAOFc2tarun: “apt-get source gnome-do; less gnome-do*/debian/watch” :)05:08
RAOFI'll get it back, with interest, by going for core-dev :)05:09
LaserJockhow's Natty shaping up?05:11
LaserJockI saw Alpha 2 is almost out05:12
c2tarunRAOF: actually I am sorry to say but I dont know how to make watch files. Can u please help a bit.05:12
LaserJockbut haven't been around development for so long I have no idea how it's progressing05:12
RAOFc2tarun: “man uscan” gives a pretty good overview of the contents of a watch file, and you should be able to cargo-cult from the gnome-do watchfile :)05:12
RAOFLaserJock: Natty's wandering along quite nicely.  Unity's still got some pretty big rough edges, though.05:13
LaserJockbut the basics seem solid?05:13
LaserJockyou know, like X ;-)05:13
RAOFAs long as you don't want a proprietary driver, yeah :)05:14
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dholbachgood morning08:31
al-maisanGood morning dholbach :)08:32
dholbachhey al-maisan08:33
gesergood morning08:48
dholbachhi geser08:49
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AnAntHello14:31
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AnAntis alpha2 expected to be released today ?14:44
micahgAnAnt: it's scheduled to be14:50
AnAntmicahg: so I shouldn't upload today to natty ?14:50
AnAntor it won't make a difference ?14:51
micahgAnAnt: well, only stuff that's not on any images or build-deps for any images, until the alpha 2 release announcement is made14:53
AnAntmicahg: so, universe is fine14:54
micahgAnAnt: no14:54
AnAnt?14:54
micahgmythbuntu and xubuntu are both seeded from universe14:54
AnAntah, ok14:54
micahgAnAnt: so, you have to check each app to see if it's in a seed14:54
AnAntmicahg: how's that ?14:55
micahgAnAnt: apt-cache show pkgname, if there's a task at the bottom, it's in an image, I've been meaning to write a script that checks all the binaries in a src package14:57
AnAntmicahg: that works on maverick too ?14:58
micahgAnAnt: no, tasks might have changed for natty14:58
AnAntok14:58
micahgAnAnt: archive open :)15:18
AnAntgreat15:18
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micahgcyphermox: I'll get to your evolution-rss proposal today, I didn't get a good answer, but if the patch works, I'll take it :)16:10
cyphermoxmicahg, ah, okay16:11
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gesermicahg: do you know if there is an replacement for the xul-ext-notify firefox addon? I found it pretty nice to get a desktop notification when a download was finished. It seems to have vanished completely (the homepage link is 404).16:20
micahggeser: is that arch specific?16:24
geserdon't know, how can I check it?16:37
micahggeser: you can try installing the version from addons.mozilla.org16:38
micahgit'll give you an error if it's arch specific and you're on amd6416:38
gesermicahg: the problem is that I can't find it on addons.mozilla.org anymore (and the Homepage link on PTS for that packages doesn't work either).16:41
geserSo I'm looking for an replacement for it.16:42
geserperhaps I ask bdrung about upstream status of it when he is here (he's listed as uploader for the Debian package)16:43
Rhonda xul-ext-notify | 1.5.4-4build1  | ubuntu/maverick/universe | all16:46
RhondaHmm, seems to be removed/blocked from natty?16:46
RhondaBecause it's in Debian squeeze and sid.16:46
Rhondageser: You could pull it from Debian directly?16:47
geserRhonda: I could try but I doubt it will work without changes with Firefox 4.0beta16:47
RhondaBut yes, bdrung should know more, he's listed in Uploaders.16:47
cjwatsonit was removed due to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/FirefoxNewSupportModel16:47
cjwatsonI imagine, anyway16:48
cjwatsonyeah16:48
gesermost of the addons I used, I've install over addons.mozilla.org again (or their homepages for a version for 4.0beta)16:50
geserbut this last one, I'm still missing and as far as I can tell upstream vanished16:50
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micahggeser: well, if upstream vanished, we don't want it in the archive anyways, but bdrung can upload a version to the xul-ext PPA17:13
micahggeser: I think chrisccoulson was going to do something with that eventually17:14
chrisccoulsondo something with?17:15
micahgchrisccoulson: notify-osd (notify-extension seems to have vanished upstream)17:16
chrisccoulsonoh, i wasn't going to do anything with that ;)17:16
chrisccoulsoni might do something for download notification, but it won't be using that extension17:16
chrisccoulsonthat's an ugly hack that calls dbus-send ;)17:17
micahgchrisccoulson: I meant with notify-osd in general, not that extension as I remember you saying what you just said about it :)17:17
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bcurtiswxStevenK, can I please get https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/folks/0.3.4-0ubuntu1 taken care of, since I don't request these typicaly.. thats called "newed" right?22:09
Rhondahuhm, I have a strange problem, can't seem to create a cowbuilder chroot: sudo nice ionice -c3 cowbuilder --create --basepath ./natty --distribution natty --mirror http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/22:17
RhondaAnd it gives me this error in the end: E: Package 'cowdancer' has no installation candidate22:18
RhondaBut cowdancer actually _is_ available in natty?22:18
RhondaSame with lucid and maverick, I'm currently a bit puzzled.22:18
micahgRhonda: maybe try in a chroot to see if it has an install failure22:19
* micahg has to run, bbiab22:19
bcurtiswxmicahg, thx for the link earlier22:19
StevenKbcurtiswx: They're in the NEW queue, yes. I'm just about to ACCEPT them.22:20
Rhondamicahg: I am currently trying to *create* the chroot. :(22:20
StevenKbcurtiswx: And done.22:21
* micahg tries to install cowdancer in a chroot22:21
bcurtiswxStevenK, so requesting in the future I ask for someone to accept them?22:21
bcurtiswxStevenK, and very much thanks :)22:22
StevenKbcurtiswx: Usually just ping someone who is around and say "<source> is in <source|binary> NEW, could you look at it, please?"22:22
micahgRhonda: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/562242/22:23
bcurtiswxStevenK, OK, thanks :)22:23
Rhondamicahg: wtf?22:25
micahgRhonda: could be my chroot, idk22:25
Rhondamicahg: I tried it for natty, lucid and maverick, neither worked.22:25
micahghmm22:27
ari-tczewScottK: ping22:39
ScottKari-tczew: Pong, but I'm about to leave.22:40
ari-tczewScottK: could you build one package on armel?22:40
ScottKari-tczew: Give me a link to the .dsc and I can probably do it later tonight.22:40
ari-tczewScottK: dget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libv/libv8/libv8_2.5.9.9-2.dsc22:41
ari-tczewScottK: if you could save buildlog would be nice, thanks!22:41
ScottKari-tczew: Started.23:45
ari-tczewScottK: OK.23:46

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