=== seidos is now known as LongShot === LongShot is now known as longshot-numero- === longshot-numero- is now known as seidos [02:19] I was trying to pack bluedevil, I didn't understand one thing. What is the differece b/w building a package via debuild and pbuilder-dist? [02:21] c2tarun: debuild builds the package on your system, pbuilder creates a chroot in which the package is built. [02:23] kklimonda: how can i put my package into REVU for reviewing? [02:23] !revu [02:23] REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [02:24] c2tarun: ^ [02:24] kklimonda: I was actually reading that page only :) its written there two motu members have to comment it. Can't we get it commented here on IRC? [02:25] c2tarun: comment in this case means advocate and they have to be able to examine the package [02:27] micahg: ok, and a line 'dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot' I think this command will create .change file and I have on change file with me inside natty_results folder. Are they the same? [02:27] c2tarun: no, you need a source upload [02:28] err, that should be the right command though... [02:28] * micahg uses debuild -S --sa [02:28] oops, 1 dash [02:29] micahg: I used that already before running pbuilder, now running it again will make any difference? [02:29] c2tarun: you don't run it again, you need to upload the source_changes file to revu when you think it's ready [02:32] micahg: ok, and I am also trying a application directly from its source code, its a new one 'schedio'. I think I dont have source_chages file with me, all I have is schedio_2.0.0-0ubuntu1_i386.changes file [02:32] c2tarun: that's a binary changes file [02:32] err, that's a build record... [02:33] micahg: if that's a build rlsecord [02:33] sorry [02:33] micahg: if that's a build record then what is last_operation.log? [02:33] err, not a build record, it's a binary changes file :) [02:34] * micahg was right the first time [02:34] c2tarun: Ubuntu only accepts source uploads [02:34] micahg: ok i got the source.changes file, its not in natty_results but the folder containing the orig tarball :) [02:34] c2tarun: it'll be in the same folder as the .dsc file [02:35] micahg: one last thing, I am not sure that the developer supplied us with any documentation for man pages, how can I check? [02:36] c2tarun: I don't know the various pre-man documentation forms yet [02:36] micahg: you don't know or I am wrong, there are no man documents before packaging? [02:37] c2tarun: upstream can provide various documentation that can be turned into a manpage or they can provide their own man page, I don't know all the details yet [02:37] c2tarun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Man%20Pages [02:38] micahg: what if someone uploaded the source.changes file without proper man pages? [02:38] c2tarun: it'll probably be commented on [02:38] micahg: ok, thanks :) [02:40] c2tarun: here's the Debian policy manual on man pages, Ubuntu's a little more lenient, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-docs.html#s12.1 [02:46] micahg: ubuntu is linient in a way that missing man pages is not considered a bug :)? After reading the packaging documentation I found no .pod files or .bz2 in whole source code? What should I do, build the package and test it on myself first or right away report to the upstream that man pages are missing? [02:53] ping [02:55] c2tarun: you could write a manpage also :) [02:56] micahg: I never used that application, :( anyway i'll ask upstream for man pages and delay my upload till they supply me the man pages :) [02:57] c2tarun: you can get the rest of it reviewed in the mean time [02:57] micahg: grt :) so I should just upload the source.changes file? [02:58] c2tarun: well, you dput the source.changes file and that uploades the source [02:58] micahg: Ok, i'll do it :) [03:01] micahg: I uploaded it but couldn't find it on revuwire.com [03:01] micahg: sorry revu.ubuntuwire.com [03:01] c2tarun: did you get an e-mail? [03:02] micahg: not yet [03:03] ah, it's there now [03:04] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/schedio [03:05] c2tarun: why do you have a debian collab-maint git repo listed? [03:05] micahg: its from the developer side, I didn't removed it. [03:06] c2tarun: what do you mean, didn't you create debian/control? [03:06] * micahg will comment later on it [03:07] micahg: I did, but still dh_make filled some fields by default, so i thought that it may be from the developer :( [03:07] c2tarun: no, dh_make creates a basic template, you're supposed to make sure what it did was sane and change whatever is necessary [03:08] micahg: ok, so my first error, I'll surely remove it in my next upload with man documentation. Any other error? [03:08] c2tarun: take a look at revu, it shows the lintian errors, also check the README.* files in debian/ [03:10] micahg: ok watch file is missing. but I don't understand the error about maintainer field? [03:10] c2tarun: you need to run update-maintainer [03:12] micahg: ok, done. but sir I need some documentation or guidance for watch files, I never used them before. [03:13] c2tarun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Creating%20and%20Using%20a%20debian/watch%20File [03:13] c2tarun: you might want to bookmark that wiki page :) [03:14] micahg: sure sir, I already corrected the other two errors, one is of collab-maint git repo and other is of maintainer name and sir do u think I should remove both the README files? [03:15] micahg: sure I just read those two file and removed it :) [03:16] c2tarun: idk, BTW, I've never packaged anything from scratch :), it's generally a good idea to fix any lintian errors in new packages, so if lintian doesn't warn about a lack of a README, you're usually ok [03:49] good day [03:49] assalamualaikum [04:35] I am getting this error in watch file http://paste.ubuntu.com/561749/ this is my watch file http://paste.ubuntu.com/561750/ [04:36] error is when I am uscaning the watch file [04:59] hi all, how goes it? [05:01] c2tarun: You probably want to use uscan's html-scraping mode; see gnome-do's watch file for an example of doing that with Launchpad. [05:01] Hey LaserJock. What's up? [05:02] not a lot, thought I'd see how things were going in MOTU world [05:06] RAOF: how have you been? [05:07] Pretty good. [05:07] you working for Canonical? [05:07] Yeah! On X. [05:07] 'Tis fun. [05:08] There's not so much motu-ing for me, though. I accidentally let my membership lapse. [05:08] RAOF: can u please tell me where i can get that watch file? [05:08] uh oh :-) [05:08] c2tarun: “apt-get source gnome-do; less gnome-do*/debian/watch” :) [05:09] I'll get it back, with interest, by going for core-dev :) [05:11] how's Natty shaping up? [05:12] I saw Alpha 2 is almost out [05:12] RAOF: actually I am sorry to say but I dont know how to make watch files. Can u please help a bit. [05:12] but haven't been around development for so long I have no idea how it's progressing [05:12] c2tarun: “man uscan” gives a pretty good overview of the contents of a watch file, and you should be able to cargo-cult from the gnome-do watchfile :) [05:13] LaserJock: Natty's wandering along quite nicely. Unity's still got some pretty big rough edges, though. [05:13] but the basics seem solid? [05:13] you know, like X ;-) [05:14] As long as you don't want a proprietary driver, yeah :) === seidos is now known as Obiwan-Kenobi === Obiwan-Kenobi is now known as seidos === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === hannesw__ is now known as hannesw [08:31] good morning [08:32] Good morning dholbach :) [08:33] hey al-maisan [08:48] good morning [08:49] hi geser === hanska is now known as dapal === MTecknology is now known as ngx_mteck === ngx_mteck is now known as MTecknology === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [14:31] Hello === shadeslayer is now known as shadeslayer_ === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [14:44] is alpha2 expected to be released today ? [14:50] AnAnt: it's scheduled to be [14:50] micahg: so I shouldn't upload today to natty ? [14:51] or it won't make a difference ? [14:53] AnAnt: well, only stuff that's not on any images or build-deps for any images, until the alpha 2 release announcement is made [14:54] micahg: so, universe is fine [14:54] AnAnt: no [14:54] ? [14:54] mythbuntu and xubuntu are both seeded from universe [14:54] ah, ok [14:54] AnAnt: so, you have to check each app to see if it's in a seed [14:55] micahg: how's that ? [14:57] AnAnt: apt-cache show pkgname, if there's a task at the bottom, it's in an image, I've been meaning to write a script that checks all the binaries in a src package [14:58] micahg: that works on maverick too ? [14:58] AnAnt: no, tasks might have changed for natty [14:58] ok [15:18] AnAnt: archive open :) [15:18] great === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away [16:10] cyphermox: I'll get to your evolution-rss proposal today, I didn't get a good answer, but if the patch works, I'll take it :) [16:11] micahg, ah, okay === dapal is now known as hanska === hanska is now known as dapal [16:20] micahg: do you know if there is an replacement for the xul-ext-notify firefox addon? I found it pretty nice to get a desktop notification when a download was finished. It seems to have vanished completely (the homepage link is 404). [16:24] geser: is that arch specific? [16:37] don't know, how can I check it? [16:38] geser: you can try installing the version from addons.mozilla.org [16:38] it'll give you an error if it's arch specific and you're on amd64 [16:41] micahg: the problem is that I can't find it on addons.mozilla.org anymore (and the Homepage link on PTS for that packages doesn't work either). [16:42] So I'm looking for an replacement for it. [16:43] perhaps I ask bdrung about upstream status of it when he is here (he's listed as uploader for the Debian package) [16:46] xul-ext-notify | 1.5.4-4build1 | ubuntu/maverick/universe | all [16:46] Hmm, seems to be removed/blocked from natty? [16:46] Because it's in Debian squeeze and sid. [16:47] geser: You could pull it from Debian directly? [16:47] Rhonda: I could try but I doubt it will work without changes with Firefox 4.0beta [16:47] But yes, bdrung should know more, he's listed in Uploaders. [16:47] it was removed due to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Lucid/FirefoxNewSupportModel [16:48] I imagine, anyway [16:48] yeah [16:50] most of the addons I used, I've install over addons.mozilla.org again (or their homepages for a version for 4.0beta) [16:50] but this last one, I'm still missing and as far as I can tell upstream vanished === shadeslayer is now known as kshadeslayer [17:13] geser: well, if upstream vanished, we don't want it in the archive anyways, but bdrung can upload a version to the xul-ext PPA [17:14] geser: I think chrisccoulson was going to do something with that eventually [17:15] do something with? [17:16] chrisccoulson: notify-osd (notify-extension seems to have vanished upstream) [17:16] oh, i wasn't going to do anything with that ;) [17:16] i might do something for download notification, but it won't be using that extension [17:17] that's an ugly hack that calls dbus-send ;) [17:17] chrisccoulson: I meant with notify-osd in general, not that extension as I remember you saying what you just said about it :) === tremolux_ is now known as tremolux === davromaniak is now known as Nowb`s === Nowb`s is now known as davromaniak [22:09] StevenK, can I please get https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/folks/0.3.4-0ubuntu1 taken care of, since I don't request these typicaly.. thats called "newed" right? [22:17] huhm, I have a strange problem, can't seem to create a cowbuilder chroot: sudo nice ionice -c3 cowbuilder --create --basepath ./natty --distribution natty --mirror http://at.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ [22:18] And it gives me this error in the end: E: Package 'cowdancer' has no installation candidate [22:18] But cowdancer actually _is_ available in natty? [22:18] Same with lucid and maverick, I'm currently a bit puzzled. [22:19] Rhonda: maybe try in a chroot to see if it has an install failure [22:19] * micahg has to run, bbiab [22:19] micahg, thx for the link earlier [22:20] bcurtiswx: They're in the NEW queue, yes. I'm just about to ACCEPT them. [22:20] micahg: I am currently trying to *create* the chroot. :( [22:21] bcurtiswx: And done. [22:21] * micahg tries to install cowdancer in a chroot [22:21] StevenK, so requesting in the future I ask for someone to accept them? [22:22] StevenK, and very much thanks :) [22:22] bcurtiswx: Usually just ping someone who is around and say " is in NEW, could you look at it, please?" [22:23] Rhonda: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/562242/ [22:23] StevenK, OK, thanks :) [22:25] micahg: wtf? [22:25] Rhonda: could be my chroot, idk [22:25] micahg: I tried it for natty, lucid and maverick, neither worked. [22:27] hmm [22:39] ScottK: ping [22:40] ari-tczew: Pong, but I'm about to leave. [22:40] ScottK: could you build one package on armel? [22:40] ari-tczew: Give me a link to the .dsc and I can probably do it later tonight. [22:41] ScottK: dget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libv/libv8/libv8_2.5.9.9-2.dsc [22:41] ScottK: if you could save buildlog would be nice, thanks! [23:45] ari-tczew: Started. [23:46] ScottK: OK.