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andylockranyea!!00:02
andylockrannight! xx00:19
HazRPGpopey: :o, wow!00:23
popey?00:23
HazRPGjust seen you gmap!00:23
popey:000:23
HazRPGThat is epic :P00:23
popeyfun :)00:23
HazRPGBeen meaning to mess around with the gmap API's for a while, how'd ya do it?00:23
popeyi didnt, its someone elses code00:24
HazRPGpopey: Nice :P00:24
* HazRPG tries to work out where he can build stuff...00:25
HazRPGdo the islands form themselves over time?00:26
HazRPGor are they hand created (sorta speak)00:26
popeyas you walk towards the end of the world it generates more world00:26
HazRPGnice00:27
HazRPGQ) How do you use the train?00:27
* HazRPG thinks he's found a spot he can set up camp00:28
popeynn00:30
HazRPG?00:30
HazRPGpopey: As in you nn, or do you mean "Night Night"? lol00:31
=== MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller
=== rich__ is now known as Rohaq
HazRPGWoo! Haz has set up shop in popey land. :)05:11
HazRPGAnd I can now stay in my hut and do things instead of logging out when it gets dark xD05:13
Paladine?05:14
HazRPGOh, minecraft lol.05:14
Paladinehehe05:14
HazRPGdo you play it?05:15
Paladineplay? haha i wish I had time to play05:15
Paladinei wouldn't still be up at 5am working if I had time to play :)05:16
HazRPGheh, makes sense I guess05:17
Paladinetonight I have ben mostly spending money i can't afford to spend hehe05:18
HazRPGwhat is it you do?05:18
HazRPGheh, I've been playing minecraft, when I should be working on a website :P05:18
PaladineI am a privacy lobbyist/advocate/consultant/public speaker05:18
MartijnVdSmorning everyone05:18
HazRPGah05:18
Paladineand just paid out the first installment for my masters :/05:18
MartijnVdSyou're up early/late ;)05:18
HazRPGMartijnVdS: :) \o hola05:18
HazRPGPaladine: nice05:18
HazRPGoh... not so nice05:19
HazRPG(I was saying nice to the job title)05:19
Paladinekeeps me very busy05:19
HazRPGI can imagine05:21
HazRPGMartijnVdS: argh... how do I find more clay >_<05:21
MartijnVdSHazRPG: No idea.. next to the river?05:21
Paladineoo I forgot I had a beer next to me :)05:21
HazRPGMartijnVdS: one would assume so right :/05:23
HazRPGbut I can't find any05:23
HazRPGPaladine: winner :)05:23
MartijnVdSHazRPG: have you tried the minecraft wiki for hints?05:24
Paladineyeah cept I should maybe be concerned that I am drinking beer at 5:30am lol05:24
Paladinealthough I opened it like 1:30am05:24
HazRPGhave several tabs open about various things xD05:25
Paladineso i guess it is ok05:25
HazRPGexactly :P05:30
shaunowow.  that game's a bit of a timesink.  just looked up to see if it's midnight yet.  err..05:30
HazRPGyeah its pitch black at the moment in popey's server05:30
HazRPGI'm hiding in my hut so that I don't get killed05:31
shaunoI tried that, but the green dudes got me anyway.  so I've just wasted the last "couple of" hours on an all-out war against creepers :/05:32
HazRPGwait, you in popey's server now too?05:33
shaunonah, just single-player05:33
MartijnVdSaka "playing with youtself"05:33
MartijnVdS*r05:33
HazRPG;p05:33
shaunoheh05:34
shaunochasing creepers is quite fun tho.  they drop gunpowder, which turns out to be quiet useful for accidentally destroying hours of work05:37
HazRPGdamn... zombies blew off some of my house somehow!05:39
shaunothat's the ones05:39
HazRPGnow I really need some clay >_<05:39
shaunothe green ones that look like worms with feet.  they hide, survive sunlight, and like to sneak up on you and explode.05:40
HazRPGso I can build my house out of brick - and not wood05:40
HazRPGsome of it is brick so far... just need more clay05:40
HazRPGshauno: heh, yeah I noticed05:40
* ball is confused.05:40
MartijnVdSball: why? :)05:41
ballMartijnVdS: I think it has become my natural state of being.05:43
MartijnVdSball: Land of Opportunity getting to you? :)05:43
ballHeh. ...land of Snowpertunity.05:44
ballI spent most of this morning digging the cars out.05:44
ball...and the footpath.  Need to widen the entrance to the driveway too.05:46
ballI'll work on that in the morning, perhaps.05:46
Paladineyou moved to US ball?05:46
* ball nods05:47
ballIt seemed like a good idea at the time.05:47
Paladinewhat on earth possessed you to do that?05:47
Paladinewhere abouts are you?05:47
Paladinewhere abouts are you ball?05:48
ball_Illinois.05:49
MartijnVdSball: run more CPU-intensive tasks05:49
Paladineoh well it could be worse, you could be working for google ;)05:49
MartijnVdSball: melt yourself out :)05:50
HazRPG^^,05:50
HazRPGPaladine: What would be wrong with working for google? Good pay from what I hear, and awesome benefits.05:50
Paladinehaha05:51
Paladineif you knew me you would understand why i found that funny :)05:51
HazRPGfair enough :P05:51
MartijnVdSPaladine: you applied and they didn't hire you?05:51
HazRPGshauno: there's not enough "day time" in this game :/05:51
Paladineno, I don't apply for jobs, I turned them down05:51
Paladine2x05:52
HazRPGseriously? You turned down a job a google?05:52
Paladineyes, 205:52
HazRPGSurely if they wanted you, then they clearly thought you were bright enough to be there - they only hire the smartest of the crop.05:52
Paladinebut I didn't want to work for them05:53
HazRPGwhy not, if you don't mind me asking?05:53
PaladineI have filed multiple legal complaints against Google, for me to take a job off them would be rank hypocrisy05:54
HazRPGah05:54
PaladineI work in privacy - Goole + Privacy don't mix lol05:54
PaladineGoogle05:54
HazRPGtrue05:55
HazRPGI should probably put torches around my house :/05:55
PaladineI have friends who work for them though05:55
Paladineand i meet Google peeps frequently05:56
Paladinein fact we did a google tech talk in mountain view just a couple of months ago05:56
Paladinealthough it was my directors not me05:56
HazRPGrandom05:56
shaunoHazRPG: I went a little overboard, but I solved my creeper problem :)  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23042/2011-02-03_05.51.03.png05:57
Paladinetech talks are like Google internal mini conferences for staff05:57
HazRPGshauno: haha nice :P05:57
ballSorry about that. I fell off the Internet.05:58
Paladineactually just last week i was in brussels speaking at a conference and Google's new policy person in Brussels gave me her card - i was like "Don't tell anyone you gave me this, you will get fired..." lol05:58
MartijnVdSball: time to dig out the telephone wires05:58
ballMartijnVdS: Not much point, I'm having the service disconnected tonight05:59
Paladineso ball what you doing out there in illinois then?05:59
ballHmm, -13C now, -23C forecast low for tonight06:00
ballPaladine: I live here.06:00
MartijnVdSthey have C over there?06:00
Paladineyeah but what work you doing there?06:00
ballMartijnVdS: Not by default, but if you work in science or do anything global...06:00
MartijnVdSball: .. or are sane ;)06:01
ballPaladine: Nothing interesting, sadly.06:01
ballMartijnVdS: Exactly ;-)06:01
ballhttp://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Bradley&state=IL&site=LOT&lat=41.1472&lon=-87.8557&unit=106:01
MartijnVdSball: last time I was in the US I was surprised at the number of things that have liters on them06:01
PaladineI was supposed to be in Cali on 12-15th of this month, but we cancelled06:01
MartijnVdSPaladine: you didn't want to be frisked by US security?06:03
Paladineno the conference were being cheap about travel/hotel06:04
Paladinethey wanted one of our directors but too busy so i was gonna go instead06:04
Paladinestill, kinda glad, i have too many trips coming up as it is without flying out to cali and back06:05
Paladinestill recovering from Brazil in december06:05
Paladine5 trips coming up between now and mid march06:06
HazRPGshauno: I wish that stupid spider would leave the entrance to my house :/06:09
HazRPGmanaged to put some torches outside of it though - so its not that bad, just a pain cos they stand next to the trees nearby when it gets light06:09
shaunospiders are docile in sunlight06:10
HazRPGhow'd ya mean?06:11
shaunothey don't attack during the day (unless you attack first).  it's just at night that they get the munchies06:11
HazRPGoh, that'll make so much more sense xD06:12
HazRPGmake it light again :/06:15
HazRPGshauno: do you use glass at all in your buildings? Or do you find them being randomly destroyed?06:16
ubuntuuk-planet[Jono Bacon] Community Leadership Summit 2011 Announced! - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/02/03/community-leadership-summit-2011-announced/06:19
shaunoI use a lot of glass.  it's pretty fragile, so don't use it anywhere you expect the green dudes to explode06:21
shaunobut I've been digging a large mining shaft straight down, so a glass roof makes lighting it much easier  (during the day ..)06:21
shauno(altho since I discovered TNT, the 'shaft' is more of chasm :D)06:24
HazRPGhaha06:30
HazRPGhmm, any idea how far down you can dig, before you hit water?06:31
shaunoI didn't hit water :)  there is unbreakable rock a good ways down tho06:37
HazRPGargh!06:42
HazRPGdamn exploding green zombie things!06:42
AlanBellmorning all06:48
MartijnVdSmorning AlanBell06:48
AlanBello/ Paladine06:51
Paladineyo06:51
HazRPGAlanBell: Mornin \o06:52
Paladinehows things AlanBell ?06:53
AlanBellnot bad, customer meeting this morning then back to the cloud expo at the barbican06:54
AlanBellthen on to a swanky reception at the design museum06:54
AlanBellhow are things in the privacy world?06:55
Paladinethere was a good panel on the cloud at CPDP conf in brussels last week06:55
Paladinekeeping me busy as usual :)06:56
PaladineAlanBell,  just launched our new site on thursday so have new blog :) https://www.privacyinternational.org/blogs/alex07:00
screen-xmorning :)07:22
TheOpenSourcerer\o/07:22
screen-xThat's one way to start the day TheOpenSourcerer :)07:23
TheOpenSourcererBeen up for 1 1/2hrs already - just about to go and: Get cash, smokes, then some rather tortuous train and tram journeys organised and car parked.07:24
screen-xwhere are you off to?07:24
TheOpenSourcererMitcham, the central london.07:25
TheOpenSourcererAnd I need a poo.07:25
screen-xheh07:25
TheOpenSourcererttfn.07:25
livingdaylightmorning07:31
screen-x\o livingdaylight07:31
daubers~Morning07:35
screen-xuser not found07:35
daubers:(07:35
screen-xits ok, daubers, you do exist really.07:36
daubersHooray!07:37
daubersNeed to go to the office and examine a new chassis, see if it'll do for a new product, then head to the open source expo07:38
screen-xHow was your trip to the BBC?07:38
daubersVery productive07:38
screen-xGood good, got a potential contract with them?07:38
daubersGot a very busy month now building them what they want07:38
screen-x:)07:38
daubersSo looking forward to a weekend away before things get beyond manic07:39
screen-xCool, hopefully we'll see you on Sunday :)07:41
daubers\o/07:42
HazRPG...minecraft is a bad game (addictive-wise) T_T, think its bed time now... morning/nite all07:51
* HazRPG waves07:51
screen-xwow, if you haven't been to bed yet, its definitely bed time!07:51
* screen-x is on tomorrow07:51
livingdaylightguys: sorry to ask a technical question so early in the morning: I have this recurring/persistent/annoying issue with Ubuntu on shutdown/reboot.07:54
livingdaylighteverytime I go to reboot or shutdown I get a dialog informing that a Program is still running... I can't identify the program?  I get it even if I've just had a clean reboot and not used any applications yet07:54
livingdaylightIt says: A program is still running: Unknown Not responding - Waiting for the program to finish. Interrupting the program may cause you to lose work.07:54
livingdaylightHere is output to ps auxww : http://pastebin.com/fK7zmt5c07:55
screen-xlivingdaylight: gord suggested that is to do with compiz07:55
livingdaylightI've got htop running but don't know how to identify the culprit07:55
livingdaylightscreen-x, yes, I remember. I re-installed all compiz in synaptic, but problem persists07:56
livingdaylightwhat is the fix?07:56
screen-x(2011-02-03 07:54:47) livingdaylight: It says: A program is still running: Unknown Not responding - Waiting for the program to finish. Interrupting the program may cause you to lose work.  <-- is that the exact text of the error message?07:56
livingdaylightyes07:57
livingdaylightscreen-x, http://img193.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1sz.png/ my desktop with said error dialog07:59
livingdaylightthank you08:00
screen-xbug 45523808:00
lubotu3Launchpad bug 455238 in tangerine (Ubuntu) "Tangerine blocks session log out" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45523808:00
livingdaylightscreen-x, thank you08:03
* livingdaylight goes to uninstall tangerine08:03
livingdaylightit still does it!08:05
screen-xI couldn't find a bug related to compiz and logout, but there must be one..08:06
screen-xpoke around launchpad..08:06
livingdaylighthaving removed tangerine, would I need to reboot for changes to take full effect?08:07
livingdaylight(maybe/hopefully)08:07
screen-xlivingdaylight: you may need to kill it.08:07
screen-xuninstalling a package doesn't necessarily kill it's processes.08:07
livingdaylighti'd happily murder it; how?08:07
screen-x"pkill tangerine" should do it08:08
screen-xor pkill -9 tangerine if that doesn't work.08:08
screen-xhaha08:08
* screen-x wonders what he killed08:09
screen-x(she/it)08:09
livingdaylightscreen-x, thank you... All is well again :)08:15
screen-xlivingdaylight: great :) what was the issue in the end?08:15
livingdaylighttangerine... and it's processes just needed killing off after the removal08:16
livingdaylightAnyone use AdobeAir? every other day it pops up with an update - amazing08:17
screen-xlivingdaylight: maybe you should comment on that bug incase it isn't obvious to other people.08:18
livingdaylightthat a further killing off of tangerine processes is required after removal?08:19
screen-xyep08:19
livingdaylightok08:19
czajkowskimorning all08:22
livingdaylightdone08:22
livingdaylightczajkowski, haro!08:23
screen-xmorning czajkowski :)08:23
DJonesMorning all08:42
MooDoohello all08:53
livingdaylighthello DJones  | MooDoo08:59
screen-xis MooDoo a filter?09:04
DJonesHang on, Have I been piped into MooDoo ?09:04
* screen-x decides not to ask what DJones stdout is..09:04
* MooDoo shudders09:05
* DJones judders09:06
kazademorning09:10
kazadepopey, I assume the new MC tower is your handywork? :)09:10
drt494245Hello, my friend and i want to play chess over the internet, is there any software available?09:11
MooDoodrt494245: freechess.org?09:12
screen-xdrt494245: you could play irc chess :) http://irc-chess.sourceforge.net/09:13
drt494245ok09:17
wintellectMornin all09:21
MooDoowintellect: morning09:21
JamesTaitGooooooooooooood morning #ubuntu-uk!09:35
MartijnVdSscreen-x: I'm more worried about his stderr09:35
screen-xMartijnVdS: haha09:36
DJonesMartijnVdS: Its not showing is it09:36
screen-xMartijnVdS: but its ok because stderr wasn't redirected.09:37
MartijnVdSscreen-x: 2>&109:37
* dwatkins is really beginning to dislike Samba and LDAP09:40
MartijnVdSdwatkins: 't is the path to enlightenment09:41
dwatkinsMartijnVdS: I wish it were, it's just making my blood boil at the moment, and all I'm trying to do is join a domain :'(09:41
MartijnVdSdwatkins: net join foo?09:41
dwatkinsMartijnVdS: yeah, tried that, no joy09:42
dwatkinsThe error implies there's a duplicate name on the network, but there ain't.09:42
MartijnVdSdwatkins: maybe it thinks some machine with your machine's name is already in the domain09:57
dwatkinsyeah, I'm changing the name and trying again, MartijnVdS10:00
screen-x\o/ deed-poll to fix samba problem10:00
* dwatkins grins10:00
popeykazade: me and bigcalm10:01
dwatkinsI just wish Samba was as easy to use as any old winders machine, and yes I know what I'm saying.... ;)10:01
popeykazade: I went to the top of yours and put some stuff there to make a glass walkway10:01
kazadeglass...10:01
kazadeoops10:01
kazadeI started on a wood one!10:01
kazade:(10:01
kazadehmm, I'll put glass either side of the wood, we can always replace it later :)10:02
popeynvm :)10:02
kazadeit's hard building outwards10:02
kazadeI've died so many times falling off10:02
popeyhold shift when you walk, you wont fall off10:02
kazadeoh!10:02
kazadedo you know where I can find some lava?10:02
screen-xWhat are the grey columns in the forests?10:04
screen-xoh, I think they're just a different type of tree.10:05
gordi think at this point we need to rename the channel to #minecraft-uk10:06
dwatkinsI was just thinking the same, gord ;)10:06
popeykazade: there's a hot tap10:07
popeythere is #ubuntu-uk-minecraft :)10:07
bigcalmMorning peeps10:08
popeypip pip10:08
screen-xhooray!10:08
nigelbpip: error: No command by the name pip pip10:08
nigelb;)10:08
MartijnVdSnigelb: CP/M10:09
MartijnVdSnigelb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_Interchange_Program10:09
screen-xThe program 'pip' can be found in the following packages:  * pip * python-pip10:09
kazadepopey, you can't harvest running lava10:10
kazadeI tried :(10:10
dwatkinsSounds painful.10:11
kazadehmm, looking at the map there is some above ground in the snow area10:11
nigelbMartijnVdS: Ah.10:11
MartijnVdSreminds me10:12
MartijnVdSI need to poke my dad to set up his old CP/M machine :)10:12
screen-xMartijnVdS: that won't run minecraft ;-)10:12
MartijnVdSscreen-x: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertec_Superbrain10:12
MartijnVdSscreen-x: but it IS cool10:12
nigelbI agree with the cool bit10:12
screen-xits a dual-core iMac :)10:13
MartijnVdSscreen-x: from 197910:13
popeykazade: oh yeah10:16
s-foxHello.10:18
nigelbhello s-fox10:19
nigelbYou've shortened your nick name10:19
s-foxHello nigelb10:19
s-foxIt is for consistency10:19
nigelbI belive folks will find this entertaining. http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2011/02/03/bnp-relocates-to-india-in-bid-to-cut-costs/10:23
MooDoonigelb: i almost believed it then :)10:26
nigelbMooDoo: hehe10:26
MooDoonigelb: and it wasn't the site that made me curious it was the photo, it looked photoshopped :)10:29
DJonesThats quite entertaining10:29
MezWhat a horrid thought.  I've now been at my job for two years10:31
MooDooMez: ?10:32
dwatkinsMez: I was in my last job for 9 years.10:32
MezI'm not too sure what you're asking there.10:32
MooDoosorry might have come in halfway through a conversation :)10:33
Mezdwatkins: It's more of a point of today is my anniversary here..10:33
MooDooMez: congrats :)10:33
dwatkinsgz, Mez :)10:33
MooDooMez: oct 1st is my 5 year one :)10:33
* Mez reflects back over what he's done in the 2 years he's been here.10:34
* DJones has been in his job for 2 months10:34
* MooDoo wants a new one :)10:35
screen-x\o/ xdg-open11:01
* screen-x should have know about that before..11:02
kazadeMC is very buggy :/11:02
kazadehalf of my bridge has "vanished" so I threw some stone onto where it should be, now I'm watching that stone repeatedly fall, then reappear in front of me, then fall... etc.11:03
Laneyyeah that happens :(11:03
Laneyusually fixed by disconnecting and reconnecting11:03
popeyexit, reconnect11:03
kazadeyeah, that worked11:03
popeyyou get gaping holes in the map11:04
kazadeI've also noticed that sometimes an entire side of that tower disappears11:04
popeyyeah, you're on a border between chunks11:04
popeyhow do you start the client?11:04
popeyand how much ram do you have? :)11:04
rickogdenhi all, I'm getting a weird problem11:04
kazadedouble-click the jar and um, probs about 2G11:04
popeyheh11:04
gordits a long standing multiplayer bug now11:05
popeyjava -jar -Xmx2048M -Xms2048M -jar foo.jar11:05
rickogdenI have a file, I ls it and it's there (complete with execute permissions), I try to execute it and get the error "no such file or directory". Has anyone come across this? I think the filesystem is broken11:05
gordits kind of annoying but nothing you can do apart from restart11:05
popeykazade: be nice to have a train track between towers :)11:06
popeya monorail! :D11:06
screen-xrickogden:  ./ ?11:06
popey(in the sky)11:06
rickogdenscreen-x: yes11:06
gordrickogden, are you sure the file isn't a script attempting to execute another file that it can't find?11:06
kazadegood idea ;)11:06
rickogdenit's a compiled executable11:06
popeyhttp://popey.com/minecraft/current_day.png ooo i see it11:06
screen-xrickogden: ldd ?11:06
popeykazade: hope ours is a similar level11:06
kazadepopey, yeah, me too!11:07
rickogdenscreen-x: what do you mean?11:07
popeykazade: i counted yours as about 60 blocks high, by counting the windows11:07
MooDoohehe yes that's cool11:07
kazadethat map is old popey11:07
kazadethe bridge is now nearer your tower than mine ;)11:07
Laneythat is one long bridge11:07
kazadeinfact, I can't see my tower, but I can see yours11:07
popeyheh11:07
gord(maybe we shouldn't let minecraft talk get in the way of support) =\11:07
popeysorry11:07
kazade#mc-ubuntu-uk ?11:07
screen-xrickogden: run ldd executable to see if all required libs are there11:07
kazade:)11:07
rickogdenok will do11:07
popeykazade: #ubuntu-uk-minecraft exists11:07
rickogdenscreen-x: comes up with "not a dynamic executable"11:09
screen-xso it doesn't need any external libs11:09
rickogdennope11:09
screen-xcould use strace to see what its trying to open.11:09
rickogdenit runs on another very similar machine absolutely fine11:09
screen-xIs there to extract all images from a PDF?11:10
gordrickogden, its not adobe air is it? i remember that happening to me with adobe air, never fixed it though11:10
screen-x^a way11:10
rickogdennope11:10
rickogdenit's a small c application11:10
rickogdenthat runs fine on one machine11:10
rickogdenbut on the other it doesn't throw an error it claims it doesn't exist when it's executed11:11
rickogden(but it does exist in the filesystem)11:11
gordrickogden, can you run "file <filename>"11:12
rickogden"launcher: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, not stripped"11:12
gordscreen-x, there are bunch of cli tools called pdf2<thing> in the repo's they can convert, not sure about extract though11:12
rickogdenadmittedly it's a 64 bit system, but it runs on the other 64 system fine11:12
screen-xdynamically linked ??11:13
screen-xweird that file should disagree with ldd11:13
gordrickogden, lets make sure you have the 32bit deps installed, to run 32bit applications apt-get install libc6-i386 lib32gcc1 lib32z1 lib32stdc++6 ia32-libs11:14
rickogdengord: looks like I don't, installing now11:15
rickogdenahah! But the other system does!11:15
rickogdengord: I think that's done it, thanks!11:16
screen-x:)11:16
rickogdenthanks gord and screen-x :)11:17
gord:)11:17
popeyyay11:18
popeyback to minecraft ;)11:18
screen-xyay xpdf-utils includes pdfimages, which claimes to be able to extract images from pdfs :)11:19
rickogdenI have to say though, what a weird error message11:21
screen-xyeah. Do find and ldd agree about dynamicness now?11:21
rickogdenlinux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf7795000)        libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf7617000)      /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf7796000)11:22
screen-xGood.. so just have to try and rember that when find and ldd disagree it may be a 32/64bit issue.11:23
rickogdenyeah will do11:24
rickogdenI still say it's an unhelpful error message (and completely misleading)11:24
rickogdenI honestly thought it was a corrupt filesystem11:24
screen-xpdfimages works brilliantly :)11:25
dr5t4924Hi, can someone help me find a command line to play songs in a directory (and subdirs) randomly with mplayer11:28
dr5t4924I tried mplayer -shuffle $(find .)  , but then mplayer intereprets every word as a song, not line11:28
screen-xdr5t4924: find . -print0 possibly?11:29
czajkowskipopey: I think you've a new addiction problem11:30
MooDooczajkowski: +111:30
MooDoo:)11:30
screen-xczajkowski: what was the previous one?11:30
czajkowskihave you seen his coffee runs twitpics :)11:30
screen-xah yes11:30
czajkowskiall that coffee he says it s for co workers I don't beleive it11:30
screen-xhaha11:30
MooDoohi i'm moodoo and i'm addicted to coffee and minecraft :)11:31
screen-x#ubuntu-uk-minecraft-addicts-anonymous11:31
MooDooscreen-x: damn you......:) i had to go look :)11:32
czajkowskioh a MooDoo11:32
screen-xMooDoo: haha, maybe you should start it ;-)11:32
MooDooczajkowski: bonjour my sweet :) beat a davmor2 yet?11:32
MooDooscreen-x: go look :)11:33
MooDoolol11:33
czajkowskinope not left Aldershot yet11:33
czajkowskigonna head up about lunch time11:33
dr5t4924screen-x: nein, but i got it now thnx11:33
MooDooczajkowski: give him a punch for me will ya :)11:33
czajkowskieh no11:33
screen-xdr5t4924: what was the solution? I'm always getting stuck with quoting issues..11:33
czajkowskiless of the violence please11:33
MooDooczajkowski: i did only mean a playful hello how are you type.....ok ok a hug then11:34
screen-xMooDoo: if that's how you great friends...11:34
screen-x*greet11:34
dr5t4924screen-x: i got two in #mplayer11:34
MooDooscreen-x: i don't have friends11:34
dr5t4924screen-x: zsh -c 'mplayer -shuffle ./**/*'11:35
dr5t4924screen-x: and find . > playerlist.list ; mplayer -playlist playerlist.list11:36
screen-xdr5t4924: I forget that ** exists. It works in bash after shopt -s globstar11:39
dr5t4924screen-x: thnx, and how do i turn off globstar btw?11:45
screen-xdr5t4924: -u for "unset"11:46
czajkowskihttp://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/615/detail/  oh we now have more people signed up but also avatars beside names12:02
s-foxOhh, pub and rugby =)12:09
terranczajkowski: will I wear an Irish jersey or would I be attacked for doing so?12:09
* s-fox might be able to make it, though I am not English or Irish :)12:11
jpdsLondon is nowhere near Rugby.12:11
czajkowskiterran: not at all12:12
* MooDoo might just wear his harlequins jersey :)12:13
terranczajkowski: but what about when we win?12:13
terranCan't trust these Ubuntu folk :p12:13
danfisha hoy hoy!12:14
MooDooterran: i abuse czajkowski on a daily basis regarding ireland getting trounced, although i do seem to recall promising to buy her a drink if we loose....12:14
terranwhen12:14
terranwhen you lose12:14
MooDooterran: ahem ;)12:15
MooDoois this two beers i'm going to have to buy ;)12:15
czajkowskiMooDoo: I'm trying to bring some Irish friends along12:15
terranI might do the same12:15
czajkowskiI suggest you behave now or it'll get expensive for you12:15
MooDooczajkowski: awesome :)12:15
czajkowskiSorcha and davisc are coming along12:15
terranI haven't seen Sorcha since FOSDEM two years ago12:16
czajkowskishes started her phd12:17
terranoooh12:19
terranfancy12:19
s-fox£17.00 for train tickets =)12:20
MooDoohmm i better sort out train12:20
czajkowskiterran: aye electronics12:21
czajkowskishe needs to have a live demo read for LA  in August12:21
terranczajkowski: where is she doing it?12:21
czajkowskiLIT12:21
s-foxMind you, that is one way... /me checks return12:21
s-fox£37.00 for the round trip.  Blah12:24
MooDoos-fox: 52 for me12:25
MooDoo:(12:25
terranround trip to London?12:26
s-foxTo that I add approx £40.00 in taxi...12:26
MooDooyes12:26
terranA whole £15 for me including unlimited underground zones 1-6 travel12:27
MooDooterran: i'm in nottingham12:27
MooDootrain then tube....12:27
terranfreaking love Nottingham12:27
terranYe Olde Trip to Jerusalem is one of my favourite bars of all time12:28
MooDooyay ubuntu-uk field trip to nottingham :)12:28
MooDooterran: next time your up, give us a bell :)  trip and salutation and a few beers :)12:28
terranlast time I was there I went to Trip followed by Reflex12:29
terranthe 80s club12:29
terran:D12:29
s-foxterran, Oh Nottingham isn't so far from here. Maybe 35 miles12:29
MartijnVdShttp://www.youtube.com/nottinghamscience :)12:30
* diplo likes Nottingham bars and ladies as well12:30
MooDoos-fox: where are you?12:30
diploYe olde was the first place i visited12:30
MooDooi'm sensing a ubuntu night in nottingham is coming up :)12:30
terranCan we start the night in Bugman's Bar?12:31
MartijnVdSdiplo: because it's down the road from the train station? :)12:31
MooDoolol12:32
MooDooi work about 10 mins from the train station and about 5 from the trip :D12:32
diploheh and my hotel12:33
terranI got a delicious burger and a really good pint of Guinness in Bugmans Bar12:33
diploWell I'm up for it next time I visit Headoffice12:33
terranplus how often do you get to drink in a place with an Orc head mounted on the wall12:33
MooDoolol haven't been to games workshop in ages :D12:34
* MartijnVdS works about 30 minutes from East Midlands airport (= 30min from Amsterdam airport ;)12:34
* MooDoo lives 10 miles from notts and just down the road from the castle :)12:35
MooDoonottingham has a great beer festival in oct....you'll all have to come to that :D12:35
MooDoohttp://www.nottinghamcamra.org/12:36
MooDoo:D12:36
s-foxMooDoo,  I am currently living halfway between leicester and coventry12:36
MooDoos-fox: ah not that far then12:36
gordsometimes, just sometimes. i middle click the "new tab" button in firefox. never feel clever doing that12:40
=== denny- is now known as denny
shaunowow.  trees are a lot more flammable than I expected.12:52
popeyheh12:52
* popey invites shauno to #ubuntu-uk-minecraft12:52
directhexare mines more craftable than you expected?12:54
=== monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller
Davieypopey, is minecraft good then?13:02
popeyoh hai Daviey :)13:03
popeyyes13:03
directhexjust don't confuse it for a game13:03
Davieyit's like crack is it?13:03
popeya tiny bit13:03
MartijnVdSMinecrack13:03
Davieyhmm13:03
MartijnVdS\o Daviey btw13:03
Davieypopey, Have you lost your job over it yet?13:03
directhexit's more like farmville than simcity, tbh13:03
DavieyMartijnVdS, o/13:03
popeyheh, no13:04
* Daviey ponders if it's worth €14.95...13:04
popeywhatever it is, it's fun, IMO13:05
MartijnVdSpopey: does it work on intel gfx?13:05
popeyno idea13:05
Davieyit's java isn't it... write once, run anywhere! :)13:05
popeywrite once, debug everywhere13:05
MartijnVdSDaviey: sure it'll run.. but will it be 3D-accelerated :)13:05
DavieyMartijnVdS, oh - 3D is overated.13:06
popeytempted to buy a second copy for the kids13:06
popeywell, two more copies13:06
directhexwrite once, don't run on dual-monitor setup due to lwjgl bugs13:07
DavieyWOW... have you seen how much money he's made from it?13:08
popeyi would imagine some millions13:08
popeygiven how many people have bought it13:08
directhexprofit = income - costs13:09
Daviey15 million pounds based on some back of cig packet calcs13:09
Davieyand #10K per day13:09
popeyit was cheaper13:09
Davieyand ##0K per day13:09
popeyits not always been 15EUR13:09
Davieykeyboard fail.13:09
Davieyah13:09
Davieystill.. he's making a good daily bread.13:10
directhexplus, the profits from the game also need to fund development of the next game13:10
popeyor not13:10
popeyquit whilst ahead :)13:11
popeyalthough he has said they're working on another game13:11
* Daviey wishes he earned 10K per day.13:11
popeyi have already bought two copies13:11
popeyi gave one to a nephew13:11
Davieypopey, fancy buying one for me? :)13:11
directhexminecraft is an unusually successful game, but it's not all veyrons for notch13:12
directhexthe industry isn't that simple13:12
Davieypopey, check out http://www.minecraft.net/buy_gift_codes.jsp :)13:13
AlanBello/ Daviey13:14
Davieyhello AlanBell !13:16
AlanBellwe got the CDs sorted in the end, I went to Millbank and grovelled13:18
AlanBelland the show is pretty dead so we haven't used many13:18
czajkowskiheh13:18
czajkowskiheard it's pretty bad there13:19
AlanBellone of the bits of swag we have is the official ubuntu book13:19
AlanBellwe were thinking of using this and maybe some other stuff as a prize in an Ubuntu-UK quiz night13:19
AlanBellthere is a channel with a quiz bot in isn't there?13:19
AlanBellobviously the winner probably doesn't need the book, so it should go to the most ignorant player :)13:20
dwatkinsThere's probably lots of them, AlanBell. I know of one retro-gaming channel where a bot asks questions all day long.13:20
AlanBellI think there is a #ubuntu- one13:20
DavieyAlanBell, there is13:21
Davieygood to hear it's ok13:21
MonsterKillerto start something in a screen you do like: screen <screen name> <command you want to run in screen> ?13:21
Davieysad to hear it's quiet13:21
Davieyi feared it might be after last time.13:21
AlanBellyeah13:21
AlanBellmore cloud stuff than before13:22
DavieyAlanBell, Did you look for the hype 2.0 complaint stickers?13:22
AlanBellwho has them?13:23
DavieyMost companies i thought.....13:23
DJonesMonsterKiller: I just do "screen" in a terminal, press space when prompted, then whatever the command I need to run is13:23
DavieyIn cloud news, i assume you heard that Dell are now shipping UEC?13:24
AlanBellyes, we saw the press release13:25
AlanBellpopey: czajkowski: will we see you later?13:28
czajkowskiAlanBell: I'm hopint to head to the font thingy13:30
czajkowskionce I figure out where it is13:30
czajkowski:)13:30
AlanBellLondon Bridge tube13:30
AlanBellwaterloo then Jubilee line13:31
czajkowskidid you find your phone13:33
AlanBellno13:35
czajkowski:(13:36
AlanBellthey are sending me a new sim and I will find an old handset to use13:43
AlanBelluntil June when I get an upgrade13:43
AlanBellbut TheOpenSourcerer tells me company policy means I can't get an iPhone 513:43
danfishyour conscience means you can't get an iphone 5 ;)13:44
* MartijnVdS watched the Honeycomb event yesterday13:44
MartijnVdSI want that tablet now13:44
dutchiemarket.android.com is scary13:45
MartijnVdSdutchie: it's cool13:45
dutchieit is cool13:46
* MartijnVdS tried it earlier13:46
dutchiebut the lack of requirement to activate and the speed at which downloads start is just terrifying13:46
dutchiewell, until you think about it13:46
popeyAlanBell: you "lost" your streak?13:46
popeycunning13:47
popeyI'd probably "lose" mine if I had one13:47
MartijnVdSdutchie: this is the way it has always worked13:47
popeyInteresting thing I heard that the return rate for Samsung Galaxy S was ~16% vs Apple iPad 2% in the USA.13:47
MartijnVdSdutchie: (that's why there was a small delay between clicking "install" and install starting)13:47
MartijnVdSpopey: maybe because apple doesn't accept returns? :P13:48
popeyhahah13:48
popey(they do)13:48
popeySteve knows his stuff is perfect, why allow returns?13:48
gordyeah i think there is consumer laws about that ;)13:49
MartijnVdSgord: in the UK, yes13:50
MartijnVdSgord: in the US, not so much13:50
gordalthough i don't think comparing return rates of such different products is a valid comparison13:52
popeywhen would it be a valid comparison13:52
gordi think people who get an ipad very explicitly wanted "an ipad" thus not likely to return, whereas people who got a galaxy S wanted "a phone" and thus might not live up to their needs13:52
AlanBellpopey: we have returned a total of three streaks I think13:52
popeyerk13:52
AlanBellout of two13:53
gordi think return rates are far too variable for any comparison to be valid, unless it was explicitly "this hardware is broken" return rates13:53
popeyi haven't returned any apple products, and I have 613:53
popeyalthough I did lose one on the eurostar13:53
AlanBellI remember that13:54
DavieyI've never lost an andorid based product on a eurostar.13:54
czajkowskiDaviey: you also never got off on the wrong stop either did you13:54
DavieyI have found the apple charger for the laptops to have a few design issues :/13:55
gordi can't remember the last product i returned, maybe my kindle, but thats because it broke the week i got it... got it replaced more than returned13:55
Davieyczajkowski, I have often got off at the wrong stop :)13:55
DavieySound on my macbookpro7,1 under natty is less than good at the moment.13:55
* Daviey blames Steve.13:56
DaveMorrishttp://2011.beercamp.com/14:00
HazRPGafternoon all \o#14:00
MartijnVdS\o hazman14:00
gordpopey, y'know how the alt-tab thing is slow... in the ccsm settings for "static application switcher" under behaviour it has a "popup window delay" set to 0.2, setting it back to 0 makes it snappy for me (although seing others with less powerful computers having slow alt tab still)14:00
popeywell, I'm kinda hosed at the moment, my unity experience has stopped due to no nvidia driver14:01
Davieyoh good... i just updated X, removing nvidia-current14:01
Davieythis has a bad feeling.14:01
popeyyes, that14:01
Davieyhurray!14:01
popeythere is no nvidia-current for the latest x14:01
Davieyi literally JUST did it.14:01
popeydont do that14:02
dwatkinsMartijnVdS: in case you were curious, it turned-out I should have specified the name of the domain in capitals when using the kinit command.14:02
Laneyalways watch what is removed :(14:02
gordif only we had the osx time machine14:02
Davieypopey,  tooo late... i even had to use dpkg force, as apt wouldn't let me do it :)14:02
gordhave we not copied that yet?14:02
MartijnVdSdwatkins: of course! you have to shout at windows boxes to make them do what you want them to do ;)14:02
dwatkinsMartijnVdS: heh14:02
Davieygord, When is X gonna be good with nvidia?14:02
popeyif only apt had undo14:03
Laneydoes time machine cover system components?14:03
gordDaviey, i have no idea, it works okay for me updated on monday. ask #ubuntu-x14:03
popey11:42:04 < yofel> there is NO nvidia driver yet that works with the new xserver, not even nvidias current beta driver14:03
Davieygord, pah :)14:04
* Daviey had better not reboot.14:04
* Laney has been using safe-upgrade for ages, and will be until the huge transition he is working on is finished :'(14:04
gordoh great, i suggest you guys get used to that open source driver then...14:04
Laney. o O ( when is FF? )14:04
DavieyLaney, open a vnc session, and i'll open a browser for you and navigate to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule ..14:05
Laneyit was in a thought bubble and therefore rhetorical, but thanks for your politeness14:06
DavieyLaney, np :)14:06
bigcalmThese low fat super noodles are a bit pants. Ho hum14:07
Davieybigcalm, Panter than you expected?14:08
* selinuxium chuckles...14:08
bigcalmDaviey: I quite like super noodles. But I don't always have the low fat ones. Now I remember why14:08
selinuxiumHi Daviey14:08
davmor2czajkowski: when you getting here kiddo?14:08
* bigcalm pulls a pair of boxershorts from between his teeth14:09
DJonesbigcalm: Is it possible to use the words "low fat" ini any other context than "a bit pants"14:09
MooDoodavmor2: czajkowski i want a photo of you two together with no bruises please :)14:09
selinuxiumbigcalm, I thought the only difference was that you get less noodles in the diet pack..14:09
Davieybigcalm, :(14:09
Davieyselinuxium, o/14:09
bigcalm<cough>fewer</cough>14:10
Davieyless watts!14:10
bigcalmselinuxium: same quantity, odd product though14:10
popeytasteless14:10
popeywatery14:11
popeymuch like all diet food :)14:11
popeyalso, the nouveau driver is rubbish, it flickers every few seconds14:11
Daraelpopey: those two words could describe so much incredibly accurately... not only food, either...14:11
bigcalmOne could say that the skimmed milk that I have in my tea is "low fat". But I likes that14:11
HazRPGMartijnVdS: :)14:11
popeyooo14:11
popeychai o'clock14:11
HazRPGI'm hooked on Minecraft now >_<14:11
MartijnVdSHazRPG: Told you so14:12
HazRPG>_<14:12
HazRPGI know... >_<14:12
bigcalmHehe14:12
* Darael makes mental note not to start playing. It's clearly not a good idea.14:12
bigcalmI deleted it as it was getting in the way of work14:12
HazRPGnow that I've got a hut... its all the more addictive, at first I though "this is crap, I'll never build anything fast enough to protect myself14:12
HazRPG"14:12
bigcalmHazRPG: If you were really stuck, one could just dig a hole for the 1st night14:13
HazRPGbigcalm: is that why you have a place that says "claim this house"?14:13
bigcalmHazRPG: I didn't write that sign. I wrote the one next to it14:13
bigcalmYou're welcome to it if you want it14:13
HazRPGbigcalm: didn't realise that until after the first 5 or so deaths14:14
popeyi wrote the claim sign14:14
HazRPGbigcalm: yeah I saw that one too14:14
popeydidnt know whose it was14:14
Davieypopey, I did run my own nouveau driver for a while... but every kernel upgrade was a PITA14:14
Davieyi did consider dkms'ing it... then thought... well.. i just hate freedom.14:14
popeywhy do we update x without waiting for a driver from nvidia?14:14
popeyor is it us updating that prompts them to update?14:14
Davieyprobably chicken + egg?14:15
popeyyeah14:15
popeywish they'd just open source the damn thing14:15
HazRPGikr :/14:15
bigcalmGah14:16
bigcalmWhy do some email clients imbed images into emails rather than attach them?14:16
HazRPGthink it'd be possible to make like a tunnel that goes between two houses underground?14:18
popeyeveryone in offices does that14:18
popeyprintscreen, new mail, paste14:18
bigcalmHazRPG: yes14:18
bigcalmpopey: this came from an applemail client. I blame Steve Jobs for everything14:18
popeyok, cmd+shift+3, cmd n for new mail, drag image from desktop :)14:19
bigcalmAha14:21
dwatkinscmd+shift+4, space, click for just a window, iirc14:33
popeyyeah14:35
popeymost obscure shortcut ever14:35
popeyalso, interesting to note that GNOME Shell ships with a built in screencast app14:35
dwatkinsIt's one thing I'm very surprised at which Macs are very difficult for, screenshots.14:35
Myrttiwhee, new laptop14:38
Myrttisadly, it comes with Ubuntu 9.10 preinstalled14:38
AlanBellcould be sadder14:39
popeyDell?14:39
Myrttipopey: yeah, our company work laptop standard issue14:39
MyrttiAlanBell: in the sense that it could come with Windows, true14:39
Myrttiotherwise, no14:39
MyrttiI'll have to nuke the installation anyway, and that's sad14:40
Myrttiubuntu 32-bit 9.10 desktop --> xubuntu 64-bit 10.10 alternate with luks14:41
HazRPGnot easy avoiding water underground14:45
* HazRPG building himself a tunnel xD14:45
DJonesHazRPG: How do you _build_ a tunnel?14:47
HazRPGline the walls with coblestone?14:48
TwinkletoesDoes anybody have experience of bacula and/or recent versions of amanda?  I've been using bacula but it's very complicated (still not sure I'm running it right!) and for the small number of servers I have to backup, a 6GB+ catalogue file is a bit excessive.  Any comments, suggestions or ideas?14:48
DJonesHazRPG: Good answer14:48
HazRPGDJones: :P14:49
HazRPGotherwise I would have just said I was digging a tunnel :P14:49
HazRPGah crap, didn't count how many spaces to the left I needed to go before I hit water14:53
DJonesDoes that mean your tunnel is flooded14:53
HazRPGnot just yet14:54
HazRPGI saw gravel and thought to myself "hmmm... that's usually near water... I'll fill that back up with coblestone... and go left again"14:54
* popey invites HazRPG to #ubuntu-uk-minecraft :)14:54
HazRPGpopey: ^^, didn't know it was there14:56
screen-xTwinkletoes: rsnapshot14:56
screen-xJust had a uknof email saying the final 5 /8s have been allocated, so the IANA pool is now empty..14:57
Twinkletoesscreen-x: Thankyou - looks interesting, reading now14:57
screen-xGo panic buy water, or get your anti-nat cannons ready.14:57
Neoti|workyey for ipv614:58
Neoti|worklol14:58
AlanBelldid you see the ipv6 song?14:58
screen-xnope...?14:58
Neoti|workyes ...14:58
danfishscreen-x: I have a spare ipv4 going. The bidding starts at £5014:58
danfish;)14:58
Neoti|worki personally dont like IP v6... i think they should have just added some oct on ...14:58
Neoti|workdam it ...14:58
Neoti|workwho wanted to remember a hexdec thing.14:59
Neoti|work192.168.200.100 is far more easyer to remember lol14:59
screen-xdanfish: nah, that belongs to your ISP ;-)   It would be good if you could get a single provider independent address, but that would make for _very_ large routing tables.15:00
AlanBellhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qYS31SOq6A15:00
danfishscreen-x: nah - it's mine honest and very unique - "127.0.0.1" :P15:02
popeywww.youtube.com/watch?v=Pube5Aynsls15:02
popey*shudder*15:02
AlanBellhow the heck did they get that youtube URL and why is popey pasting it here?15:03
popeyhaha15:03
popeyits got RMS in it15:03
danfishwhy is it I read the bit after the "=" in popey's link as "pube analysis"?15:04
danfish...I need to keep taking the tablets15:05
* popey points danfish at AlanBell and around 2 mins ago15:05
danfishpopey: d'oh!15:05
* AlanBell clicks cautiously15:07
AlanBelloh my15:07
AlanBellI think I would rather watch what I thought it was going to be15:07
PendulumAlanBell: do I want to know what you thought it would be?15:08
screen-xAlanBell: ipv6 song, very good :)15:09
AlanBellPendulum: no, you don't want to know that15:09
dogmatic69anyone know why the sensors applet does not show my cpu? i3 on a Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2 mobo15:10
dogmatic69running x86 10.1015:10
AlanBellshhh shhhh, it's oh so quiet15:11
dogmatic69:(15:12
popeyAlanBell: you at the expo again?15:13
AlanBellyes15:13
AlanBellthen on to the font thing15:13
popeyah15:15
popeyhows the expo today?15:16
MartijnVdShttp://i.imgur.com/qePef.jpg15:18
popey:)15:20
AlanBellit isn't very busy15:23
AlanBellif nobody turns up soon I may be forced to install minecraft15:24
kazadeAlanBell, do it!15:24
pauliunxhi, i have a question: I recently installed lxde (lubuntu) and I'm very very happy with the desktop environment but it has a problem, it has no gui for setting up dual monitors [ BIG desktop ], so what I did was log out, re-load gnome, create the monitor layout with it's monitor gui and then logged out again and logged in with lxde and it works. the only problem is, when I restart my computer and login with my lxde again, the big layout is lost so I have 15:25
pauliunxi have a radeon 9550 card15:25
popeyhaha15:26
* popey points pauliunx at MartijnVdS who knows about ATI cards :)15:27
popeypauliunx: you probably need to make an xorg.conf15:27
popeyAlanBell: you'll be welcome in #ubuntu-uk-minecraft15:27
pauliunxpopey: yea i found out about that file, no idea how to write it though..15:27
kazadepauliunx, are you using the official driver (from the hardware drivers section) or the default open source one?15:29
pauliunxkazade: the default one, when i go to hardware drivers, it says no proprietary drivers were found15:31
kazadeah ok, then I don't think an Xorg.conf is gonna help you..15:31
pauliunxi see amd released catalyst drivers for ubuntu 10.415:32
pauliunxdownloading them now15:32
kazadepauliunx, wait..15:32
pauliunxmaybe i can set things up over there15:32
kazadeit it's not listed in hardware drivers, it means either a.) your card is no longer supported by AMD or b.) you are missing a package15:33
pauliunxoh...probably a) then15:33
kazadepauliunx, just to be sure, make sure "fglrx-modaliases" is installed15:33
kazadethat contains the info of which driver supports which card15:33
kazadeif it's missing, hardware drivers will be empty even if your card isn't supported15:34
kazade*is15:34
pauliunxit's already installed15:34
pauliunxfglrx-modaliases is already the newest version.15:35
kazadeok, that means that installing the driver from AMD won't work (and may break stuff)15:35
pauliunxcan't I just copy/paste the files that are generating the current layout somewhere to make them permanent?15:35
kazadeapparently lxde has a monitor tool called LXRandr15:35
kazadesudo apt-get install lxrandr ?15:35
pauliunxyes, but it only offers turning the monitors on/off and rezolutions15:35
pauliunxnothing past that, doesn't give the choice of extending a monitor15:36
kazadeI see... it's odd that it's not saving the information15:36
kazadewhat you did is supposed to make it permanent, at least for you15:36
pauliunxhm...i guess lxde and gnome use different files when loading15:37
kazadethey shouldn't do, it's the same underlying technology (xrandr)15:37
kazadeum, perhaps ask the lxde guys?15:37
kazadehttp://wiki.lxde.org/en/IRC_Chat15:37
pauliunxon their forum it says they have no developers who use two monitors :))15:38
kazadeoh... brilliant15:38
pauliunxalrighty, I'll just leave it at this for now15:38
kazadeand xorg.conf will probably work15:39
kazadealthough, it's not *supposed* to be the way to do it :)15:39
pauliunxdon't know how to do it15:39
kazadesome info here: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/2009/06/0115:39
kazadeit's not ideal..15:40
kazadehmm, pauliunx can you run the gnome monitor config from inside lxde?15:40
pauliunxit doesn't show up15:40
kazaderun: gnome-display-properties15:41
kazadeeither in ALT+F2 (if lxde has it) or from a terminal15:41
kazadepauliunx, I understand the problem15:42
kazadelxde is supposed to set your saved mode at login, but apparently it doesn't. So you can add a line to a file called /etc/xdg/lxsession/autostart ...15:43
AlanBellsladen is here now15:43
kazadealthough, the xrandr line will be dependent on your setup :(15:43
kazadepauliunx, some info here: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=37515:44
pauliunxkazade: sorry, got disconnected15:47
pauliunxyes, i can run gnome-display but it doesn't actually do anything15:47
pauliunxif I click apply nothing changes15:47
pauliunxany idea why?15:48
kazadeerm...15:48
kazadeno, that should have worked15:48
kazadeif you run it in a terminal, is there any output (e.g an error)15:49
kazade?15:49
pauliunxtwo warnings15:49
pauliunx(gnome-display-properties:1754): Gtk-WARNING **: Ignoring the separator setting15:49
pauliunx(gnome-display-properties:1754): Gtk-WARNING **: No object called:15:49
kazadehmm, I dunno :(15:50
kazadethat really should've worked...15:50
pauliunxcould you please give me the xorg.conf link again?15:50
pauliunxgonna try it that way15:50
screen-xThings never look quite how I expect them to: http://prt.org/new/html/k.marmite-servers.net.html15:51
kazadepauliunx, this is useful: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2#Using__.24_xrandr15:51
kazadepauliunx, here's the original link I sent you: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/2009/06/0115:51
kazadeactually, that doesn't tell you what I thought it did15:52
kazadehere we go: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html15:53
kazadethat tells you the two methods (xrandr and xorg.conf)15:53
kazadefor "Driver" you want "ati"15:53
kazadeI think... or maybe "radeon" I can't remember15:53
kazadebut definitely not "intel" :p15:53
dauberso/15:54
popeyAlanBell: give sladen a hug from me15:54
pauliunxthanks kazade15:56
pauliunxi'll try that now15:56
* daubers popped into the expo, wasn't very impressed said hello and vanished again16:10
MooDoodaubers: that good eh?16:15
screen-xdogmatic69: I got some sensor info by loading the coretemp module16:16
AlanBelldaubers: did you?16:16
daubersAlanBell: I did indeed :)16:17
dogmatic69screen-x: i got it going, sensor-detect16:17
AlanBelldaubers: this morning?16:17
daubersAlanBell: About lunchtime, you had gone to see a customer apparently16:17
screen-xdogmatic69: sensors-detect didn't find anything for me, had to load the module manually.16:17
daubers:)16:17
AlanBellbother, probably just missed you16:17
AlanBellwe got here at lunchtime16:17
dogmatic69well i just restarted after that16:17
daubersAhh, ok16:18
ubuntuuk-planet[Ralph Janke] Update Regarding Usage Based Billing of the Internet in Canada - Government will Reverse CRTC ruling - http://drupal.txwikinger.me.uk/content/update-regarding-usage-based-billing-internet-canada-government-will-reverse-crtc-ruling16:20
kaushalHi16:43
kaushalI  have a question regarding cron which invokes the shell script at 9am and 9pm16:43
kaushalHow do i handle the situation when the job which is running since 9am has not yet completed16:44
kaushaltill 9pm16:44
screen-xkaushal: pidfiel16:44
screen-xpid file even16:44
kaushalscreen-x: not sure i understand that16:45
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AlanBellwell everyone is packing up now16:53
AlanBellthink the expo is done16:53
MooDooAlanBell: everyone wants to go to the pub16:54
MooDooAlanBell: so was it worth it?16:54
screen-xbother, I keep starting a converstation then getting disconnected and not realising :(17:05
* screen-x slaps bip17:06
davmor2MooDoo: check out my fb page pic of czajkowski just for you dude :)17:54
davmor2MooDoo: geotagged too17:54
gurkan_hi all19:05
gurkan_how to set the smtp server of my provider in my home's mailrc file i use mailutils 2.119:05
Baikonurdunno19:17
gurkan_dunno19:18
gurkan_?19:18
ubuntuuk-planet[Ralph Janke] AskUbuntu has Gone through the 10,000 Users Threshold - http://drupal.txwikinger.me.uk/content/askubuntu-has-gone-through-10000-users-threshold19:20
MartijnVdSIT'S OVER 9000!19:20
pr0ph3thi all19:24
pr0ph3tI need to run this command LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype, but if I add it as a launcher it gives me error, the only way I can run it is typing it onto the terminal19:25
pr0ph3thow do I create a launcher for that? Should I create a bash script that replaces the skype in /usr/bin/?19:26
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: create a small shell script, then have the launcher launch the shell script19:27
MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: shell script can be two lines:19:27
MartijnVdS#! /bin/bash19:27
MartijnVdSLD_PRELOAD=etc etc19:27
pr0ph3tand then make it exec19:27
MartijnVdScall it "skype.sh", put it somewhere in your homedir, make it executable (you can do this in the "Properties" screen in the file manager)19:27
MartijnVdSexactly19:27
pr0ph3tok thanks MartijnVdS19:28
pr0ph3tMartijnVdS, is it chmod 777 skype.sh?19:31
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MartijnVdSpr0ph3t: 777 is way too much19:56
MartijnVdS755 is more than enough.. but I'd recommend just saying: chmod u+x file19:56
MartijnVdS("for user add execute")19:56
pr0ph3tthank you19:56
pr0ph3t_re all20:02
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MonsterKillerHey. I tried to change my ubuntu server password and got: passwd: Authentication token manipulation error20:06
MonsterKillerwhat does it mean? :/20:09
MartijnVdSit means either your old password was wrong20:26
MartijnVdSor the new ones didn't match20:26
xircon-brbHi20:44
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xircon-stJust testing my cheapo scroll tablet from maplins20:46
BigRedSOoooh, how is it?20:46
xircon-stBetter since I rooted it and installed a different build.prop20:47
xircon-stYou get what you pay for android market worked briefly (manual states it is not supported)20:48
xircon-stAlso better with a cheap nintendo ds stylus20:49
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BigRedSHmmm20:50
BigRedSI've been pondering one of those as a sort-of marginally-smart-screen more than a tablet20:50
xircon-stIn retrospect I should have perhaps got a stream of a galaxy but it's OK for the money20:52
xircon-stSorry streak!20:53
BigRedSI did wonder :)20:53
xircon-stBloody SwiftKey keyboard still getting used to it20:53
xircon-stIt's pretty good though,  can type fairly quickly good find20:55
xircon-stThere is a very friendly forum looking at an upgrade to2. 220:56
* MartijnVdS is waiting for that Xoom thing20:59
MartijnVdSwith Honeycomb20:59
xircon-stAny pricing available yet20:59
MartijnVdSno21:02
MartijnVdSwell21:02
MartijnVdSthe US price without a plan will be €550ish21:02
MartijnVdS(after conversion)21:02
xircon-stUnfortunately $ normally = £21:03
xircon-stWe live in a ripoff world21:04
MartijnVdSyes21:08
MartijnVdSsame with €21:08
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Azelphurbehavioural advertising is funny, it always shows me things I've already bought21:23
Azelphurit's like anti-advertising.21:23
MartijnVdSwhat like Russian brides? :P21:49
brobostigon-andrEvening evryone.21:49
MartijnVdS\o brobostigon-andr21:50
brobostigon-andrHey MartijnVdS21:50
suprengro/ brobostigon-andr MartijnVdS21:50
suprengrare we the only ones not at the 'do'21:50
brobostigon-andrHi suprengr21:50
brobostigon-andrMaybe21:51
brobostigon-andrI just had a chat with my dad and he has something good for me to work on.21:51
brobostigon-andrDamn. Battery. :(21:53
* BigRedS isn't at the do21:53
BigRedSIs this the font thingy you're on about?21:53
brobostigon-andrNo.21:53
brobostigon-andrMy dad his forming his own company and wants me to do the it. :)21:54
brobostigon-andrIT21:54
MartijnVdScool21:54
brobostigon-andrMartijnVdS: so I need to find dns and a server provider21:55
BigRedSoooh, handy21:55
MartijnVdSbrobostigon-andr: gandi.net, gandi.net :)21:55
brobostigon-andrMartijnVdS: that was my intial thought and then bytemark.21:56
MartijnVdSthey're nice people21:56
brobostigon-andrThat's the impression I get.21:56
* brobostigon-andr is in the pub with his dad,and where he thinks the best.21:57
brobostigon-andrSo this is going to be a lot of work.21:58
* suprengr likes brobostigon-andr's Dad... he has brains ;)21:58
* brobostigon-andr gets everyone a real ale.21:58
suprengrnum num... cheers21:59
brobostigon-andr:)21:59
BigRedSmmm, handy22:00
brobostigon-andrSo I might be calling on your chaps and gals for help.22:00
brobostigon-andrOk, speak later. When I get home.22:01
brobostigon-andrEnjoy the beer. :)22:02
suprengrbfn brobostigon-andr  & ta for the beer22:02
suprengr[hic]22:02
brobostigon-andrYou're welcome suprengr22:02
brobostigon-andrLol22:03
brobostigon-andrBbl22:03
brobostigon-andrCheers22:03
brobostigon-andrIechyd dda22:03
suprengr& good health 2u222:05
ubuntuuk-planet[Jamie Bennett] Linaro 11.05 Alpha-2 Released - http://www.linuxuk.org/2011/02/806/22:20
hamitron18 hours downtime for my internet conenction... I got the shakes ;/22:50
Jibadeehacold turkey?22:53
Azelphurthis is why I have a phone22:53
Azelphurredundancy!22:54
Jibadeehafirst question i ask when house hunting is, "can you get broadband?"22:54
BigRedSI forget there ae houses you can't get broadband in22:54
Jibadeehahard to imagine isn't it22:55
BigRedSThough I have spent the large majority of my life in London22:55
JibadeehaLondon gets everything first22:55
Jibadeehaeven the plague22:55
Jibadeeha;)22:56
hamitron:)22:57
hamitronI'd not want to live in London22:57
hamitrontoo busy, fast and dangerous22:57
directhexoff to brussels tomorrow. i'd better play videogames for 3 hours22:58
hamitronget the fix? ;)23:00
hamitronI'm right off comp games after last night23:00
hamitrongot to the 18th race of the season on F1 2010, and I am told my team will not be renewing my contract23:01
hamitron:/23:01
hamitronspent about 2.5 hours per race, and got points in a rubbish car, then they tell me that23:02
Jibadeehasounds very random23:02
Jibadeehaall that investment to be told that23:02
hamitronI was upset, my team mate has no points23:03
hamitron:)23:03
Jibadeehai was playing an old game on Spectrum emulator today, and was surprise how addictive the game was .. was just like old times23:03
JibadeehaSabre Wulf btw23:03
hamitronand a Lotus in F1, getting 3rd and 6th in 2 races is good....23:03
hamitronnever played it23:03
hamitronI always liked Millionaire23:04
Jibadeehafantastic game, but the keys make it hard Q=left, W=right, E=up, R=down, T=sword23:04
hamitron:)23:04
Jibadeehagiven your nickname hamitron, i would expect you to be driving a McLaren23:05
hamitronI have used this nickname for nearly 15 years23:05
Jibadeehawell before hami in F1 then23:05
hamitronlong before23:05
hamitronhaha23:05
Jibadeehahehehe23:06
hamitronI actually mainly play racing games23:06
Jibadeehalast F1 game i played was F1 2008 for my old playstation 1 ... was fantastic23:06
hamitronand find it annoying everyone automatically assumes I got it from that23:06
Jibadeehaoh not 200823:06
hamitronI have Formula 1 '9723:06
hamitron:)23:06
Jibadeeha'9823:06
Jibadeehaman i am getting old23:07
Jibadeehatime is passing me bye23:07
hamitronin '98....23:07
hamitroncan you see what the weather is like before starting a race?23:07
hamitron:/23:07
Jibadeehai can't remember23:07
hamitronI can't find it in F1 '97, and it always ruined it for me23:07
hamitronstarting a wet race on slicks :/23:08
Jibadeehai always think 98 was a good year for the sport23:08
hamitrondraw distance on the PS1 was not nearly as good as the PC either23:08
hamitronwas that the year Damon Hill raced for Jordan?23:09
Jibadeehai loved F1 when it was Schumi v Hakki23:09
Jibadeehayeah Hill and Schumi as well23:09
hamitronyeh23:09
hamitronmine has Hill in the Arrows23:09
JibadeehaF1 was great back in those days23:09
hamitronbetter than now23:09
hamitronbut still not overly great23:09
Jibadeehahamitron, you are making me want to get my play station out of the loft23:10
hamitron:/23:10
hamitronhaha23:10
hamitronmy PS1 is boxed atm, just got my NES setup23:10
Jibadeehathe graphics were superb back in the day23:10
Jibadeehahave you tried a PS1 emulator?23:10
hamitronyes23:10
Jibadeehaany good?23:11
hamitronbut I have better games for the PC23:11
hamitronit works23:11
hamitronbut I see console gaming as just a quick and easy, turn on and play when you want kinda thing23:11
Jibadeehais it the same speed?23:11
hamitronhaving to setup an emulator destroys that23:11
hamitronerm23:12
hamitronI think so23:12
Jibadeehai agree .. prefer using a console for games23:12
Jibadeehai only have a Wii at the moment and a PS123:12
Jibadeehai keep thinking of buying F1 for Wii, but the graphics don't look so hot23:12
hamitronif I want the trouble of setting up a game on a PC, I play a fully featured PC game :)23:12
Jibadeehayou ever played Metal Gear Solid23:13
AzelphurJibadeeha: why use a console for games when there are so many good emulators out there and perfectly good methods to hook up controllers?23:13
hamitronno23:13
hamitronAzelphur: it is effort23:13
JibadeehaAzelphur, i only have a netbook :(23:13
Azelphurit's like A) Buy a Wii, B) Buy a PC that can play Wii, Gamecube, PS2, and anything else you want :P23:13
Azelphursell the consoles get a decent PC then :P23:13
hamitronI bought a PSP to play games while having a dump ;/23:14
Azelphurthe emulators are even open source, it's like christmas.23:14
hamitronmy PC doesn't do it23:14
hamitronshort of bring a bowl here23:14
JibadeehaAzelphur, i am not a big game player though to invest much money into it .. i get bored of playing games after about 2 hours ... only F1 games keep me addicted, don't ask why .. perhaps cos i like the sport23:14
hamitronbringing*23:14
AzelphurI bought an android phone, I have PSX, SNES, NES, Genesis/Megadrive, GBA, GBC, with about 5k games packed onto the SD card and room to spare :D23:14
JibadeehaAzelphur, i do have a ZX spectrum emulator and 3000 games for it from a CD i bought ... love the old games23:15
hamitronAzelphur: and you reckon that is as easy and relaxing as using a PS2 on a large LCD tv in the living room?23:15
Jibadeehai don't want to buy a clunky tower/desktop PC - would rather have a console under the TV23:16
Azelphurhamitron: no, I was comparing my android phone to the PSP23:16
hamitronPSP has better controls23:16
Azelphurhamitron: as for the PS2, I have a far superior setup on my TV in the living room too :)23:16
Azelphurhamitron: android has any controls you want, you can get attachable controllers.23:16
Jibadeehawhen i had a desktop PC and bought games for it ... there was always the fear of whether the game would perform well on the PC , e..g CPU speed, video card, enough memory, etc ... you don't get that with a console23:16
hamitronAzelphur: and the cost?23:16
hamitron;/23:17
hamitrongot my PSP for £8123:17
Azelphurhamitron: in my front room I have MythTV. It has a media center with 1.5TB of media/games. Full DVR capability and a couple of playstation controllers hooked up to it :P23:17
Azelphurhamitron: not bad, I just picked up my mum a psx4droid capable phone for £10023:17
Azelphurbut it was new23:17
Azelphuri assume your psp wasn't :P23:17
hamitronno, but mine reads UMD23:18
hamitron;)23:18
Azelphuryours doesn't read microsd :)23:18
hamitronPSP games don't come on that :/23:18
Azelphurhehe23:18
hamitronbut I still reckon the feel is better23:19
hamitrona phone can play games, but not really designed for it23:19
Azelphur*shrug*23:19
AzelphurI've played through NFS Shift and most of Gran turismo on my G223:20
Azelphurlovin it :P23:20
hamitronsure it is fun...23:20
hamitron;/23:20
hamitronI'll play RACE 07 with my logitech FF wheel23:20
hamitron;)23:20
Azelphurand I'll play flight gear with my flight yoke23:21
hamitroncan't dot hat on your phone ;p23:21
Azelphurcan't do that on your psp either?23:21
hamitrontrue, can't make phone calls either, as it is for gaming23:22
Azelphurhehe :)23:22
hamitronI am still a huge fan of the PSP though, feels more modern than even the DS23:22
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hamitronjust a shame it is sony23:23
Azelphurhamitron: I just had an interesting idea23:23
AzelphurI wonder if you could use an android phone to do virtual reality23:23
hamitronI liek real reality ;/23:23
hamitronlike*23:23
AzelphurI'mma try it23:24
Jibadeehai wish flight gear would work on my asus netbook23:24
Azelphurlol it sorta works23:24
AzelphurI fired up google skymap closed one eye and put the phone in front of my eye23:24
Jibadeehaas much as i hate M$ ... flight simulator was fantastic23:24
Azelphurit's really out of focus but it works :o23:25
AzelphurI'mma try it with layar that'd be sick :o23:25
Jibadeehastellarium is good Azelphur23:25
Azelphur:D23:25
Azelphurbetter than sky map?23:25
hamitronI never could fly planes23:25
hamitron:/23:25
hamitronloved the idea of Rowan's Battle of Brit23:26
Jibadeehawell i like google skymap on my android cos it knows what am i looking at by pointing it23:26
Azelphuryea :)23:26
Azelphurthat's why I thought it'd be a good test for virtual reality23:26
Jibadeehatrue23:26
Jibadeehai love the number of stars in stellarium though23:26
Azelphurlol, the answer to could an android phone be used for virtual reality is: possibly it's very blurry xD23:28
Jibadeehamy android phone is too slow for virtual reality23:29
Azelphurhehe23:29
AzelphurI have an overclocked G2 :)23:29
Jibadeehamine is a hero23:29
Jibadeehabut not in the true sense of the word23:29
Jibadeehado you guys have surround sound?23:31
hamitronno23:32
hamitron2.123:32
Jibadeehasame here hamitron23:32
Jibadeehai keep thinking of buying a surround system but don't like the idea of so many speakers in my living room and messing about with wires under the carpet23:32
hamitronamp and speakers cost more than most surround sound systems :/23:32
Jibadeehahamitron, do you find when you play DVDs in 5.1 on your 2.1 system that you have to turn the volume up a bit higher23:33
hamitronI go for sound quality and power, over directions23:33
hamitronerm23:33
hamitronno :/23:34
Jibadeehaoh i find that when playing through my TV speakers ... volume is a lot lower23:34
Jibadeehaso do you have your TV connected to your amp23:34
hamitronI have no tv23:34
hamitron;)23:34
Jibadeehaah lol23:34
hamitronI sometimes use my parents tv23:35
hamitronit is just fine with tv speakers23:35
Jibadeehai am not impressed with my parents surround sound tv23:35
hamitronI think it depends what you want from it23:36
hamitronI never listen to music from the tv23:36
hamitronI use a hifi for that23:36
Jibadeehathey got rid of their hifi and now play DVDs through the TV ... not for me ... i have kept my hifi and like all my music to be played through the amp and my technic speakers23:37
hamitronand as for dvd, most my dvd won't have 5.123:37
Jibadeehaa lot of DVDs these days are in 5.123:37
hamitron"these days"?23:38
hamitron;/23:38
Jibadeeha"back in the day"23:38
Jibadeehalol23:38
hamitronmost my dvd are old war movies23:38
hamitronhaha23:38
Jibadeehalongest day23:38
Jibadeehabridge too far23:38
hamitrontbh, I bet most are mono :/23:39
Jibadeehahehehe23:39
JibadeehaZulu is my fav23:39
hamitronI don't have Zulu23:39
Jibadeeha"chin chin old chap"23:39
hamitronmy Dad does23:39
hamitron:))23:39
JibadeehaZulu is a classic - you got to buy it23:39
hamitronyeh, I am still looking for a Michael Caine set I like the look of23:40
hamitronfor the right price ofc ;)23:40
JibadeehaItalian Job, Get Carter, and Zulu23:40
JibadeehaEducating Rita is good though23:40
hamitronthere are so many :/23:40
Jibadeehasuch a good actor23:41
hamitronI like box sets once the cost per movie is less than £1.50 each23:41
Jibadeehai know what you mean23:41
Jibadeehathey had a Clint Eastwood box set in the supermarket the other day that had about 10 films for next to nothing23:41
Jibadeeha"come here blondie"23:42
hamitronI actually bought Fistful of Dollars trillogy all seperate23:43
hamitronsome of my first dvd they were23:43
Jibadeehagood films23:43
hamitron£5 each was cheap then23:43
Jibadeeha"these days" you can pick them up for £3.99, so not bad23:44
AlanBellevening all23:44
hamitronI just got all 22 bond movies for £4023:44
hamitronwell, few weeks ago23:44
Jibadeehahamitron, amazon?23:44
hamitronyeh23:44
Jibadeehai might copy you on that one23:44
hamitronit was too good to miss23:44
Jibadeehalove the bond movies23:44
Jibadeehathough wife doesn't23:44
hamitronhi AB23:44
hamitron:)23:44
hamitronit is only the single disc case sets23:45
Jibadeeha"from Russia with love"23:45
hamitronnot the double one with extras23:45
hamitronbut I never watch extras23:45
Jibadeehai never rip the extras23:45
hamitronomg23:46
hamitron£65 now23:46
hamitron:/23:46
hamitronhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Collection-including-Quantum-Solace/dp/B00307RT86/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296776745&sr=8-123:46
Jibadeehais that cos John Barry or whatever he is called died?23:46
hamitroncould be23:46
hamitrondunno23:46
hamitronit was £65 before xmas23:47
hamitronI just saw it in sale and had to have it23:47
Jibadeehamaybe not then23:47
Jibadeehathe bond movies are the best23:47
Jibadeeha"odd job"23:47
hamitronI am trying to resist Test Drive Unlimited 2 :/23:48
hamitron£25 on pre-order23:49
Jibadeehago for it23:49
hamitronthe first one I have, but waited till the price had dropped to get it23:49
hamitronand loads had stopped playing by then23:50
Jibadeehayou ever played return to castle wolfenstein23:50
hamitronyeh, I bought it twice23:50
hamitron:)23:50
Jibadeehathink i might buy it and a console that can play it23:50
hamitrona console?23:50
Jibadeehai remember the very first MS-DOS wolfenstein23:51
Jibadeehai only have a netbook hamitron23:51
hamitronI didn't know it was on console23:51
Jibadeehaoh it might not be23:51
Jibadeehawill have to check23:51
hamitronps223:51
hamitronxbox23:51
hamitronnice :D23:51
hamitronbut gotta use a PC for such games ;)23:52
Jibadeehai so want to avoid having a desktop23:52
Jibadeehabut Wolfenstein could change that23:53
hamitronwon't it play on the netbook?23:53
Jibadeehadoubt it23:53
Jibadeehathis thing won't play flightgear23:53
hamitronbut it is a really old game23:53
hamitron400mhz cpu...23:54
hamitronruns on windows 95 :D23:55
Jibadeehareturn to castle wolfeinstein23:55
Jibadeehait isn't that old23:55
Jibadeehais it23:55
hamitronyeh23:55
hamitronhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_to_Castle_Wolfenstein#Source_Code_Release23:56
hamitronthere is actually a newer one also23:56
Jibadeeha200123:57
hamitronI used to run it on my K6-2 500MHz with 2 x voodoo2 in sli23:58
hamitron:)23:58
Jibadeehai might buy it then as it runs on Linux23:58
hamitronneed to check that23:58
Jibadeehai just assumed it wouldn't work well23:58
hamitroncan maybe download it free, released under GPL23:59
Jibadeehalet me check23:59

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