| andylockran | yea!! | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| andylockran | night! xx | 00:19 |
| HazRPG | popey: :o, wow! | 00:23 |
| popey | ? | 00:23 |
| HazRPG | just seen you gmap! | 00:23 |
| popey | :0 | 00:23 |
| HazRPG | That is epic :P | 00:23 |
| popey | fun :) | 00:23 |
| HazRPG | Been meaning to mess around with the gmap API's for a while, how'd ya do it? | 00:23 |
| popey | i didnt, its someone elses code | 00:24 |
| HazRPG | popey: Nice :P | 00:24 |
| * HazRPG tries to work out where he can build stuff... | 00:25 | |
| HazRPG | do the islands form themselves over time? | 00:26 |
| HazRPG | or are they hand created (sorta speak) | 00:26 |
| popey | as you walk towards the end of the world it generates more world | 00:26 |
| HazRPG | nice | 00:27 |
| HazRPG | Q) How do you use the train? | 00:27 |
| * HazRPG thinks he's found a spot he can set up camp | 00:28 | |
| popey | nn | 00:30 |
| HazRPG | ? | 00:30 |
| HazRPG | popey: As in you nn, or do you mean "Night Night"? lol | 00:31 |
| === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller | ||
| === rich__ is now known as Rohaq | ||
| HazRPG | Woo! Haz has set up shop in popey land. :) | 05:11 |
| HazRPG | And I can now stay in my hut and do things instead of logging out when it gets dark xD | 05:13 |
| Paladine | ? | 05:14 |
| HazRPG | Oh, minecraft lol. | 05:14 |
| Paladine | hehe | 05:14 |
| HazRPG | do you play it? | 05:15 |
| Paladine | play? haha i wish I had time to play | 05:15 |
| Paladine | i wouldn't still be up at 5am working if I had time to play :) | 05:16 |
| HazRPG | heh, makes sense I guess | 05:17 |
| Paladine | tonight I have ben mostly spending money i can't afford to spend hehe | 05:18 |
| HazRPG | what is it you do? | 05:18 |
| HazRPG | heh, I've been playing minecraft, when I should be working on a website :P | 05:18 |
| Paladine | I am a privacy lobbyist/advocate/consultant/public speaker | 05:18 |
| MartijnVdS | morning everyone | 05:18 |
| HazRPG | ah | 05:18 |
| Paladine | and just paid out the first installment for my masters :/ | 05:18 |
| MartijnVdS | you're up early/late ;) | 05:18 |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: :) \o hola | 05:18 |
| HazRPG | Paladine: nice | 05:18 |
| HazRPG | oh... not so nice | 05:19 |
| HazRPG | (I was saying nice to the job title) | 05:19 |
| Paladine | keeps me very busy | 05:19 |
| HazRPG | I can imagine | 05:21 |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: argh... how do I find more clay >_< | 05:21 |
| MartijnVdS | HazRPG: No idea.. next to the river? | 05:21 |
| Paladine | oo I forgot I had a beer next to me :) | 05:21 |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: one would assume so right :/ | 05:23 |
| HazRPG | but I can't find any | 05:23 |
| HazRPG | Paladine: winner :) | 05:23 |
| MartijnVdS | HazRPG: have you tried the minecraft wiki for hints? | 05:24 |
| Paladine | yeah cept I should maybe be concerned that I am drinking beer at 5:30am lol | 05:24 |
| Paladine | although I opened it like 1:30am | 05:24 |
| HazRPG | have several tabs open about various things xD | 05:25 |
| Paladine | so i guess it is ok | 05:25 |
| HazRPG | exactly :P | 05:30 |
| shauno | wow. that game's a bit of a timesink. just looked up to see if it's midnight yet. err.. | 05:30 |
| HazRPG | yeah its pitch black at the moment in popey's server | 05:30 |
| HazRPG | I'm hiding in my hut so that I don't get killed | 05:31 |
| shauno | I tried that, but the green dudes got me anyway. so I've just wasted the last "couple of" hours on an all-out war against creepers :/ | 05:32 |
| HazRPG | wait, you in popey's server now too? | 05:33 |
| shauno | nah, just single-player | 05:33 |
| MartijnVdS | aka "playing with youtself" | 05:33 |
| MartijnVdS | *r | 05:33 |
| HazRPG | ;p | 05:33 |
| shauno | heh | 05:34 |
| shauno | chasing creepers is quite fun tho. they drop gunpowder, which turns out to be quiet useful for accidentally destroying hours of work | 05:37 |
| HazRPG | damn... zombies blew off some of my house somehow! | 05:39 |
| shauno | that's the ones | 05:39 |
| HazRPG | now I really need some clay >_< | 05:39 |
| shauno | the green ones that look like worms with feet. they hide, survive sunlight, and like to sneak up on you and explode. | 05:40 |
| HazRPG | so I can build my house out of brick - and not wood | 05:40 |
| HazRPG | some of it is brick so far... just need more clay | 05:40 |
| HazRPG | shauno: heh, yeah I noticed | 05:40 |
| * ball is confused. | 05:40 | |
| MartijnVdS | ball: why? :) | 05:41 |
| ball | MartijnVdS: I think it has become my natural state of being. | 05:43 |
| MartijnVdS | ball: Land of Opportunity getting to you? :) | 05:43 |
| ball | Heh. ...land of Snowpertunity. | 05:44 |
| ball | I spent most of this morning digging the cars out. | 05:44 |
| ball | ...and the footpath. Need to widen the entrance to the driveway too. | 05:46 |
| ball | I'll work on that in the morning, perhaps. | 05:46 |
| Paladine | you moved to US ball? | 05:46 |
| * ball nods | 05:47 | |
| ball | It seemed like a good idea at the time. | 05:47 |
| Paladine | what on earth possessed you to do that? | 05:47 |
| Paladine | where abouts are you? | 05:47 |
| Paladine | where abouts are you ball? | 05:48 |
| ball_ | Illinois. | 05:49 |
| MartijnVdS | ball: run more CPU-intensive tasks | 05:49 |
| Paladine | oh well it could be worse, you could be working for google ;) | 05:49 |
| MartijnVdS | ball: melt yourself out :) | 05:50 |
| HazRPG | ^^, | 05:50 |
| HazRPG | Paladine: What would be wrong with working for google? Good pay from what I hear, and awesome benefits. | 05:50 |
| Paladine | haha | 05:51 |
| Paladine | if you knew me you would understand why i found that funny :) | 05:51 |
| HazRPG | fair enough :P | 05:51 |
| MartijnVdS | Paladine: you applied and they didn't hire you? | 05:51 |
| HazRPG | shauno: there's not enough "day time" in this game :/ | 05:51 |
| Paladine | no, I don't apply for jobs, I turned them down | 05:51 |
| Paladine | 2x | 05:52 |
| HazRPG | seriously? You turned down a job a google? | 05:52 |
| Paladine | yes, 2 | 05:52 |
| HazRPG | Surely if they wanted you, then they clearly thought you were bright enough to be there - they only hire the smartest of the crop. | 05:52 |
| Paladine | but I didn't want to work for them | 05:53 |
| HazRPG | why not, if you don't mind me asking? | 05:53 |
| Paladine | I have filed multiple legal complaints against Google, for me to take a job off them would be rank hypocrisy | 05:54 |
| HazRPG | ah | 05:54 |
| Paladine | I work in privacy - Goole + Privacy don't mix lol | 05:54 |
| Paladine | 05:54 | |
| HazRPG | true | 05:55 |
| HazRPG | I should probably put torches around my house :/ | 05:55 |
| Paladine | I have friends who work for them though | 05:55 |
| Paladine | and i meet Google peeps frequently | 05:56 |
| Paladine | in fact we did a google tech talk in mountain view just a couple of months ago | 05:56 |
| Paladine | although it was my directors not me | 05:56 |
| HazRPG | random | 05:56 |
| shauno | HazRPG: I went a little overboard, but I solved my creeper problem :) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23042/2011-02-03_05.51.03.png | 05:57 |
| Paladine | tech talks are like Google internal mini conferences for staff | 05:57 |
| HazRPG | shauno: haha nice :P | 05:57 |
| ball | Sorry about that. I fell off the Internet. | 05:58 |
| Paladine | actually just last week i was in brussels speaking at a conference and Google's new policy person in Brussels gave me her card - i was like "Don't tell anyone you gave me this, you will get fired..." lol | 05:58 |
| MartijnVdS | ball: time to dig out the telephone wires | 05:58 |
| ball | MartijnVdS: Not much point, I'm having the service disconnected tonight | 05:59 |
| Paladine | so ball what you doing out there in illinois then? | 05:59 |
| ball | Hmm, -13C now, -23C forecast low for tonight | 06:00 |
| ball | Paladine: I live here. | 06:00 |
| MartijnVdS | they have C over there? | 06:00 |
| Paladine | yeah but what work you doing there? | 06:00 |
| ball | MartijnVdS: Not by default, but if you work in science or do anything global... | 06:00 |
| MartijnVdS | ball: .. or are sane ;) | 06:01 |
| ball | Paladine: Nothing interesting, sadly. | 06:01 |
| ball | MartijnVdS: Exactly ;-) | 06:01 |
| ball | http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Bradley&state=IL&site=LOT&lat=41.1472&lon=-87.8557&unit=1 | 06:01 |
| MartijnVdS | ball: last time I was in the US I was surprised at the number of things that have liters on them | 06:01 |
| Paladine | I was supposed to be in Cali on 12-15th of this month, but we cancelled | 06:01 |
| MartijnVdS | Paladine: you didn't want to be frisked by US security? | 06:03 |
| Paladine | no the conference were being cheap about travel/hotel | 06:04 |
| Paladine | they wanted one of our directors but too busy so i was gonna go instead | 06:04 |
| Paladine | still, kinda glad, i have too many trips coming up as it is without flying out to cali and back | 06:05 |
| Paladine | still recovering from Brazil in december | 06:05 |
| Paladine | 5 trips coming up between now and mid march | 06:06 |
| HazRPG | shauno: I wish that stupid spider would leave the entrance to my house :/ | 06:09 |
| HazRPG | managed to put some torches outside of it though - so its not that bad, just a pain cos they stand next to the trees nearby when it gets light | 06:09 |
| shauno | spiders are docile in sunlight | 06:10 |
| HazRPG | how'd ya mean? | 06:11 |
| shauno | they don't attack during the day (unless you attack first). it's just at night that they get the munchies | 06:11 |
| HazRPG | oh, that'll make so much more sense xD | 06:12 |
| HazRPG | make it light again :/ | 06:15 |
| HazRPG | shauno: do you use glass at all in your buildings? Or do you find them being randomly destroyed? | 06:16 |
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| shauno | I use a lot of glass. it's pretty fragile, so don't use it anywhere you expect the green dudes to explode | 06:21 |
| shauno | but I've been digging a large mining shaft straight down, so a glass roof makes lighting it much easier (during the day ..) | 06:21 |
| shauno | (altho since I discovered TNT, the 'shaft' is more of chasm :D) | 06:24 |
| HazRPG | haha | 06:30 |
| HazRPG | hmm, any idea how far down you can dig, before you hit water? | 06:31 |
| shauno | I didn't hit water :) there is unbreakable rock a good ways down tho | 06:37 |
| HazRPG | argh! | 06:42 |
| HazRPG | damn exploding green zombie things! | 06:42 |
| AlanBell | morning all | 06:48 |
| MartijnVdS | morning AlanBell | 06:48 |
| AlanBell | o/ Paladine | 06:51 |
| Paladine | yo | 06:51 |
| HazRPG | AlanBell: Mornin \o | 06:52 |
| Paladine | hows things AlanBell ? | 06:53 |
| AlanBell | not bad, customer meeting this morning then back to the cloud expo at the barbican | 06:54 |
| AlanBell | then on to a swanky reception at the design museum | 06:54 |
| AlanBell | how are things in the privacy world? | 06:55 |
| Paladine | there was a good panel on the cloud at CPDP conf in brussels last week | 06:55 |
| Paladine | keeping me busy as usual :) | 06:56 |
| Paladine | AlanBell, just launched our new site on thursday so have new blog :) https://www.privacyinternational.org/blogs/alex | 07:00 |
| screen-x | morning :) | 07:22 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | \o/ | 07:22 |
| screen-x | That's one way to start the day TheOpenSourcerer :) | 07:23 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Been up for 1 1/2hrs already - just about to go and: Get cash, smokes, then some rather tortuous train and tram journeys organised and car parked. | 07:24 |
| screen-x | where are you off to? | 07:24 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Mitcham, the central london. | 07:25 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | And I need a poo. | 07:25 |
| screen-x | heh | 07:25 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | ttfn. | 07:25 |
| livingdaylight | morning | 07:31 |
| screen-x | \o livingdaylight | 07:31 |
| daubers | ~Morning | 07:35 |
| screen-x | user not found | 07:35 |
| daubers | :( | 07:35 |
| screen-x | its ok, daubers, you do exist really. | 07:36 |
| daubers | Hooray! | 07:37 |
| daubers | Need to go to the office and examine a new chassis, see if it'll do for a new product, then head to the open source expo | 07:38 |
| screen-x | How was your trip to the BBC? | 07:38 |
| daubers | Very productive | 07:38 |
| screen-x | Good good, got a potential contract with them? | 07:38 |
| daubers | Got a very busy month now building them what they want | 07:38 |
| screen-x | :) | 07:38 |
| daubers | So looking forward to a weekend away before things get beyond manic | 07:39 |
| screen-x | Cool, hopefully we'll see you on Sunday :) | 07:41 |
| daubers | \o/ | 07:42 |
| HazRPG | ...minecraft is a bad game (addictive-wise) T_T, think its bed time now... morning/nite all | 07:51 |
| * HazRPG waves | 07:51 | |
| screen-x | wow, if you haven't been to bed yet, its definitely bed time! | 07:51 |
| * screen-x is on tomorrow | 07:51 | |
| livingdaylight | guys: sorry to ask a technical question so early in the morning: I have this recurring/persistent/annoying issue with Ubuntu on shutdown/reboot. | 07:54 |
| livingdaylight | everytime I go to reboot or shutdown I get a dialog informing that a Program is still running... I can't identify the program? I get it even if I've just had a clean reboot and not used any applications yet | 07:54 |
| livingdaylight | It says: A program is still running: Unknown Not responding - Waiting for the program to finish. Interrupting the program may cause you to lose work. | 07:54 |
| livingdaylight | Here is output to ps auxww : http://pastebin.com/fK7zmt5c | 07:55 |
| screen-x | livingdaylight: gord suggested that is to do with compiz | 07:55 |
| livingdaylight | I've got htop running but don't know how to identify the culprit | 07:55 |
| livingdaylight | screen-x, yes, I remember. I re-installed all compiz in synaptic, but problem persists | 07:56 |
| livingdaylight | what is the fix? | 07:56 |
| screen-x | (2011-02-03 07:54:47) livingdaylight: It says: A program is still running: Unknown Not responding - Waiting for the program to finish. Interrupting the program may cause you to lose work. <-- is that the exact text of the error message? | 07:56 |
| livingdaylight | yes | 07:57 |
| livingdaylight | screen-x, http://img193.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1sz.png/ my desktop with said error dialog | 07:59 |
| livingdaylight | thank you | 08:00 |
| screen-x | bug 455238 | 08:00 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 455238 in tangerine (Ubuntu) "Tangerine blocks session log out" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/455238 | 08:00 |
| livingdaylight | screen-x, thank you | 08:03 |
| * livingdaylight goes to uninstall tangerine | 08:03 | |
| livingdaylight | it still does it! | 08:05 |
| screen-x | I couldn't find a bug related to compiz and logout, but there must be one.. | 08:06 |
| screen-x | poke around launchpad.. | 08:06 |
| livingdaylight | having removed tangerine, would I need to reboot for changes to take full effect? | 08:07 |
| livingdaylight | (maybe/hopefully) | 08:07 |
| screen-x | livingdaylight: you may need to kill it. | 08:07 |
| screen-x | uninstalling a package doesn't necessarily kill it's processes. | 08:07 |
| livingdaylight | i'd happily murder it; how? | 08:07 |
| screen-x | "pkill tangerine" should do it | 08:08 |
| screen-x | or pkill -9 tangerine if that doesn't work. | 08:08 |
| screen-x | haha | 08:08 |
| * screen-x wonders what he killed | 08:09 | |
| screen-x | (she/it) | 08:09 |
| livingdaylight | screen-x, thank you... All is well again :) | 08:15 |
| screen-x | livingdaylight: great :) what was the issue in the end? | 08:15 |
| livingdaylight | tangerine... and it's processes just needed killing off after the removal | 08:16 |
| livingdaylight | Anyone use AdobeAir? every other day it pops up with an update - amazing | 08:17 |
| screen-x | livingdaylight: maybe you should comment on that bug incase it isn't obvious to other people. | 08:18 |
| livingdaylight | that a further killing off of tangerine processes is required after removal? | 08:19 |
| screen-x | yep | 08:19 |
| livingdaylight | ok | 08:19 |
| czajkowski | morning all | 08:22 |
| livingdaylight | done | 08:22 |
| livingdaylight | czajkowski, haro! | 08:23 |
| screen-x | morning czajkowski :) | 08:23 |
| DJones | Morning all | 08:42 |
| MooDoo | hello all | 08:53 |
| livingdaylight | hello DJones | MooDoo | 08:59 |
| screen-x | is MooDoo a filter? | 09:04 |
| DJones | Hang on, Have I been piped into MooDoo ? | 09:04 |
| * screen-x decides not to ask what DJones stdout is.. | 09:04 | |
| * MooDoo shudders | 09:05 | |
| * DJones judders | 09:06 | |
| kazade | morning | 09:10 |
| kazade | popey, I assume the new MC tower is your handywork? :) | 09:10 |
| drt494245 | Hello, my friend and i want to play chess over the internet, is there any software available? | 09:11 |
| MooDoo | drt494245: freechess.org? | 09:12 |
| screen-x | drt494245: you could play irc chess :) http://irc-chess.sourceforge.net/ | 09:13 |
| drt494245 | ok | 09:17 |
| wintellect | Mornin all | 09:21 |
| MooDoo | wintellect: morning | 09:21 |
| JamesTait | Gooooooooooooood morning #ubuntu-uk! | 09:35 |
| MartijnVdS | screen-x: I'm more worried about his stderr | 09:35 |
| screen-x | MartijnVdS: haha | 09:36 |
| DJones | MartijnVdS: Its not showing is it | 09:36 |
| screen-x | MartijnVdS: but its ok because stderr wasn't redirected. | 09:37 |
| MartijnVdS | screen-x: 2>&1 | 09:37 |
| * dwatkins is really beginning to dislike Samba and LDAP | 09:40 | |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: 't is the path to enlightenment | 09:41 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: I wish it were, it's just making my blood boil at the moment, and all I'm trying to do is join a domain :'( | 09:41 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: net join foo? | 09:41 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: yeah, tried that, no joy | 09:42 |
| dwatkins | The error implies there's a duplicate name on the network, but there ain't. | 09:42 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: maybe it thinks some machine with your machine's name is already in the domain | 09:57 |
| dwatkins | yeah, I'm changing the name and trying again, MartijnVdS | 10:00 |
| screen-x | \o/ deed-poll to fix samba problem | 10:00 |
| * dwatkins grins | 10:00 | |
| popey | kazade: me and bigcalm | 10:01 |
| dwatkins | I just wish Samba was as easy to use as any old winders machine, and yes I know what I'm saying.... ;) | 10:01 |
| popey | kazade: I went to the top of yours and put some stuff there to make a glass walkway | 10:01 |
| kazade | glass... | 10:01 |
| kazade | oops | 10:01 |
| kazade | I started on a wood one! | 10:01 |
| kazade | :( | 10:01 |
| kazade | hmm, I'll put glass either side of the wood, we can always replace it later :) | 10:02 |
| popey | nvm :) | 10:02 |
| kazade | it's hard building outwards | 10:02 |
| kazade | I've died so many times falling off | 10:02 |
| popey | hold shift when you walk, you wont fall off | 10:02 |
| kazade | oh! | 10:02 |
| kazade | do you know where I can find some lava? | 10:02 |
| screen-x | What are the grey columns in the forests? | 10:04 |
| screen-x | oh, I think they're just a different type of tree. | 10:05 |
| gord | i think at this point we need to rename the channel to #minecraft-uk | 10:06 |
| dwatkins | I was just thinking the same, gord ;) | 10:06 |
| popey | kazade: there's a hot tap | 10:07 |
| popey | there is #ubuntu-uk-minecraft :) | 10:07 |
| bigcalm | Morning peeps | 10:08 |
| popey | pip pip | 10:08 |
| screen-x | hooray! | 10:08 |
| nigelb | pip: error: No command by the name pip pip | 10:08 |
| nigelb | ;) | 10:08 |
| MartijnVdS | nigelb: CP/M | 10:09 |
| MartijnVdS | nigelb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_Interchange_Program | 10:09 |
| screen-x | The program 'pip' can be found in the following packages: * pip * python-pip | 10:09 |
| kazade | popey, you can't harvest running lava | 10:10 |
| kazade | I tried :( | 10:10 |
| dwatkins | Sounds painful. | 10:11 |
| kazade | hmm, looking at the map there is some above ground in the snow area | 10:11 |
| nigelb | MartijnVdS: Ah. | 10:11 |
| MartijnVdS | reminds me | 10:12 |
| MartijnVdS | I need to poke my dad to set up his old CP/M machine :) | 10:12 |
| screen-x | MartijnVdS: that won't run minecraft ;-) | 10:12 |
| MartijnVdS | screen-x: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertec_Superbrain | 10:12 |
| MartijnVdS | screen-x: but it IS cool | 10:12 |
| nigelb | I agree with the cool bit | 10:12 |
| screen-x | its a dual-core iMac :) | 10:13 |
| MartijnVdS | screen-x: from 1979 | 10:13 |
| popey | kazade: oh yeah | 10:16 |
| s-fox | Hello. | 10:18 |
| nigelb | hello s-fox | 10:19 |
| nigelb | You've shortened your nick name | 10:19 |
| s-fox | Hello nigelb | 10:19 |
| s-fox | It is for consistency | 10:19 |
| nigelb | I belive folks will find this entertaining. http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2011/02/03/bnp-relocates-to-india-in-bid-to-cut-costs/ | 10:23 |
| MooDoo | nigelb: i almost believed it then :) | 10:26 |
| nigelb | MooDoo: hehe | 10:26 |
| MooDoo | nigelb: and it wasn't the site that made me curious it was the photo, it looked photoshopped :) | 10:29 |
| DJones | Thats quite entertaining | 10:29 |
| Mez | What a horrid thought. I've now been at my job for two years | 10:31 |
| MooDoo | Mez: ? | 10:32 |
| dwatkins | Mez: I was in my last job for 9 years. | 10:32 |
| Mez | I'm not too sure what you're asking there. | 10:32 |
| MooDoo | sorry might have come in halfway through a conversation :) | 10:33 |
| Mez | dwatkins: It's more of a point of today is my anniversary here.. | 10:33 |
| MooDoo | Mez: congrats :) | 10:33 |
| dwatkins | gz, Mez :) | 10:33 |
| MooDoo | Mez: oct 1st is my 5 year one :) | 10:33 |
| * Mez reflects back over what he's done in the 2 years he's been here. | 10:34 | |
| * DJones has been in his job for 2 months | 10:34 | |
| * MooDoo wants a new one :) | 10:35 | |
| screen-x | \o/ xdg-open | 11:01 |
| * screen-x should have know about that before.. | 11:02 | |
| kazade | MC is very buggy :/ | 11:02 |
| kazade | half of my bridge has "vanished" so I threw some stone onto where it should be, now I'm watching that stone repeatedly fall, then reappear in front of me, then fall... etc. | 11:03 |
| Laney | yeah that happens :( | 11:03 |
| Laney | usually fixed by disconnecting and reconnecting | 11:03 |
| popey | exit, reconnect | 11:03 |
| kazade | yeah, that worked | 11:03 |
| popey | you get gaping holes in the map | 11:04 |
| kazade | I've also noticed that sometimes an entire side of that tower disappears | 11:04 |
| popey | yeah, you're on a border between chunks | 11:04 |
| popey | how do you start the client? | 11:04 |
| popey | and how much ram do you have? :) | 11:04 |
| rickogden | hi all, I'm getting a weird problem | 11:04 |
| kazade | double-click the jar and um, probs about 2G | 11:04 |
| popey | heh | 11:04 |
| gord | its a long standing multiplayer bug now | 11:05 |
| popey | java -jar -Xmx2048M -Xms2048M -jar foo.jar | 11:05 |
| rickogden | I have a file, I ls it and it's there (complete with execute permissions), I try to execute it and get the error "no such file or directory". Has anyone come across this? I think the filesystem is broken | 11:05 |
| gord | its kind of annoying but nothing you can do apart from restart | 11:05 |
| popey | kazade: be nice to have a train track between towers :) | 11:06 |
| popey | a monorail! :D | 11:06 |
| screen-x | rickogden: ./ ? | 11:06 |
| popey | (in the sky) | 11:06 |
| rickogden | screen-x: yes | 11:06 |
| gord | rickogden, are you sure the file isn't a script attempting to execute another file that it can't find? | 11:06 |
| kazade | good idea ;) | 11:06 |
| rickogden | it's a compiled executable | 11:06 |
| popey | http://popey.com/minecraft/current_day.png ooo i see it | 11:06 |
| screen-x | rickogden: ldd ? | 11:06 |
| popey | kazade: hope ours is a similar level | 11:06 |
| kazade | popey, yeah, me too! | 11:07 |
| rickogden | screen-x: what do you mean? | 11:07 |
| popey | kazade: i counted yours as about 60 blocks high, by counting the windows | 11:07 |
| MooDoo | hehe yes that's cool | 11:07 |
| kazade | that map is old popey | 11:07 |
| kazade | the bridge is now nearer your tower than mine ;) | 11:07 |
| Laney | that is one long bridge | 11:07 |
| kazade | infact, I can't see my tower, but I can see yours | 11:07 |
| popey | heh | 11:07 |
| gord | (maybe we shouldn't let minecraft talk get in the way of support) =\ | 11:07 |
| popey | sorry | 11:07 |
| kazade | #mc-ubuntu-uk ? | 11:07 |
| screen-x | rickogden: run ldd executable to see if all required libs are there | 11:07 |
| kazade | :) | 11:07 |
| rickogden | ok will do | 11:07 |
| popey | kazade: #ubuntu-uk-minecraft exists | 11:07 |
| rickogden | screen-x: comes up with "not a dynamic executable" | 11:09 |
| screen-x | so it doesn't need any external libs | 11:09 |
| rickogden | nope | 11:09 |
| screen-x | could use strace to see what its trying to open. | 11:09 |
| rickogden | it runs on another very similar machine absolutely fine | 11:09 |
| screen-x | Is there to extract all images from a PDF? | 11:10 |
| gord | rickogden, its not adobe air is it? i remember that happening to me with adobe air, never fixed it though | 11:10 |
| screen-x | ^a way | 11:10 |
| rickogden | nope | 11:10 |
| rickogden | it's a small c application | 11:10 |
| rickogden | that runs fine on one machine | 11:10 |
| rickogden | but on the other it doesn't throw an error it claims it doesn't exist when it's executed | 11:11 |
| rickogden | (but it does exist in the filesystem) | 11:11 |
| gord | rickogden, can you run "file <filename>" | 11:12 |
| rickogden | "launcher: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, not stripped" | 11:12 |
| gord | screen-x, there are bunch of cli tools called pdf2<thing> in the repo's they can convert, not sure about extract though | 11:12 |
| rickogden | admittedly it's a 64 bit system, but it runs on the other 64 system fine | 11:12 |
| screen-x | dynamically linked ?? | 11:13 |
| screen-x | weird that file should disagree with ldd | 11:13 |
| gord | rickogden, lets make sure you have the 32bit deps installed, to run 32bit applications apt-get install libc6-i386 lib32gcc1 lib32z1 lib32stdc++6 ia32-libs | 11:14 |
| rickogden | gord: looks like I don't, installing now | 11:15 |
| rickogden | ahah! But the other system does! | 11:15 |
| rickogden | gord: I think that's done it, thanks! | 11:16 |
| screen-x | :) | 11:16 |
| rickogden | thanks gord and screen-x :) | 11:17 |
| gord | :) | 11:17 |
| popey | yay | 11:18 |
| popey | back to minecraft ;) | 11:18 |
| screen-x | yay xpdf-utils includes pdfimages, which claimes to be able to extract images from pdfs :) | 11:19 |
| rickogden | I have to say though, what a weird error message | 11:21 |
| screen-x | yeah. Do find and ldd agree about dynamicness now? | 11:21 |
| rickogden | linux-gate.so.1 => (0xf7795000) libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf7617000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf7796000) | 11:22 |
| screen-x | Good.. so just have to try and rember that when find and ldd disagree it may be a 32/64bit issue. | 11:23 |
| rickogden | yeah will do | 11:24 |
| rickogden | I still say it's an unhelpful error message (and completely misleading) | 11:24 |
| rickogden | I honestly thought it was a corrupt filesystem | 11:24 |
| screen-x | pdfimages works brilliantly :) | 11:25 |
| dr5t4924 | Hi, can someone help me find a command line to play songs in a directory (and subdirs) randomly with mplayer | 11:28 |
| dr5t4924 | I tried mplayer -shuffle $(find .) , but then mplayer intereprets every word as a song, not line | 11:28 |
| screen-x | dr5t4924: find . -print0 possibly? | 11:29 |
| czajkowski | popey: I think you've a new addiction problem | 11:30 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski: +1 | 11:30 |
| MooDoo | :) | 11:30 |
| screen-x | czajkowski: what was the previous one? | 11:30 |
| czajkowski | have you seen his coffee runs twitpics :) | 11:30 |
| screen-x | ah yes | 11:30 |
| czajkowski | all that coffee he says it s for co workers I don't beleive it | 11:30 |
| screen-x | haha | 11:30 |
| MooDoo | hi i'm moodoo and i'm addicted to coffee and minecraft :) | 11:31 |
| screen-x | #ubuntu-uk-minecraft-addicts-anonymous | 11:31 |
| MooDoo | screen-x: damn you......:) i had to go look :) | 11:32 |
| czajkowski | oh a MooDoo | 11:32 |
| screen-x | MooDoo: haha, maybe you should start it ;-) | 11:32 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski: bonjour my sweet :) beat a davmor2 yet? | 11:32 |
| MooDoo | screen-x: go look :) | 11:33 |
| MooDoo | lol | 11:33 |
| czajkowski | nope not left Aldershot yet | 11:33 |
| czajkowski | gonna head up about lunch time | 11:33 |
| dr5t4924 | screen-x: nein, but i got it now thnx | 11:33 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski: give him a punch for me will ya :) | 11:33 |
| czajkowski | eh no | 11:33 |
| screen-x | dr5t4924: what was the solution? I'm always getting stuck with quoting issues.. | 11:33 |
| czajkowski | less of the violence please | 11:33 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski: i did only mean a playful hello how are you type.....ok ok a hug then | 11:34 |
| screen-x | MooDoo: if that's how you great friends... | 11:34 |
| screen-x | *greet | 11:34 |
| dr5t4924 | screen-x: i got two in #mplayer | 11:34 |
| MooDoo | screen-x: i don't have friends | 11:34 |
| dr5t4924 | screen-x: zsh -c 'mplayer -shuffle ./**/*' | 11:35 |
| dr5t4924 | screen-x: and find . > playerlist.list ; mplayer -playlist playerlist.list | 11:36 |
| screen-x | dr5t4924: I forget that ** exists. It works in bash after shopt -s globstar | 11:39 |
| dr5t4924 | screen-x: thnx, and how do i turn off globstar btw? | 11:45 |
| screen-x | dr5t4924: -u for "unset" | 11:46 |
| czajkowski | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/615/detail/ oh we now have more people signed up but also avatars beside names | 12:02 |
| s-fox | Ohh, pub and rugby =) | 12:09 |
| terran | czajkowski: will I wear an Irish jersey or would I be attacked for doing so? | 12:09 |
| * s-fox might be able to make it, though I am not English or Irish :) | 12:11 | |
| jpds | London is nowhere near Rugby. | 12:11 |
| czajkowski | terran: not at all | 12:12 |
| * MooDoo might just wear his harlequins jersey :) | 12:13 | |
| terran | czajkowski: but what about when we win? | 12:13 |
| terran | Can't trust these Ubuntu folk :p | 12:13 |
| danfish | a hoy hoy! | 12:14 |
| MooDoo | terran: i abuse czajkowski on a daily basis regarding ireland getting trounced, although i do seem to recall promising to buy her a drink if we loose.... | 12:14 |
| terran | when | 12:14 |
| terran | when you lose | 12:14 |
| MooDoo | terran: ahem ;) | 12:15 |
| MooDoo | is this two beers i'm going to have to buy ;) | 12:15 |
| czajkowski | MooDoo: I'm trying to bring some Irish friends along | 12:15 |
| terran | I might do the same | 12:15 |
| czajkowski | I suggest you behave now or it'll get expensive for you | 12:15 |
| MooDoo | czajkowski: awesome :) | 12:15 |
| czajkowski | Sorcha and davisc are coming along | 12:15 |
| terran | I haven't seen Sorcha since FOSDEM two years ago | 12:16 |
| czajkowski | shes started her phd | 12:17 |
| terran | oooh | 12:19 |
| terran | fancy | 12:19 |
| s-fox | £17.00 for train tickets =) | 12:20 |
| MooDoo | hmm i better sort out train | 12:20 |
| czajkowski | terran: aye electronics | 12:21 |
| czajkowski | she needs to have a live demo read for LA in August | 12:21 |
| terran | czajkowski: where is she doing it? | 12:21 |
| czajkowski | LIT | 12:21 |
| s-fox | Mind you, that is one way... /me checks return | 12:21 |
| s-fox | £37.00 for the round trip. Blah | 12:24 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: 52 for me | 12:25 |
| MooDoo | :( | 12:25 |
| terran | round trip to London? | 12:26 |
| s-fox | To that I add approx £40.00 in taxi... | 12:26 |
| MooDoo | yes | 12:26 |
| terran | A whole £15 for me including unlimited underground zones 1-6 travel | 12:27 |
| MooDoo | terran: i'm in nottingham | 12:27 |
| MooDoo | train then tube.... | 12:27 |
| terran | freaking love Nottingham | 12:27 |
| terran | Ye Olde Trip to Jerusalem is one of my favourite bars of all time | 12:28 |
| MooDoo | yay ubuntu-uk field trip to nottingham :) | 12:28 |
| MooDoo | terran: next time your up, give us a bell :) trip and salutation and a few beers :) | 12:28 |
| terran | last time I was there I went to Trip followed by Reflex | 12:29 |
| terran | the 80s club | 12:29 |
| terran | :D | 12:29 |
| s-fox | terran, Oh Nottingham isn't so far from here. Maybe 35 miles | 12:29 |
| MartijnVdS | http://www.youtube.com/nottinghamscience :) | 12:30 |
| * diplo likes Nottingham bars and ladies as well | 12:30 | |
| MooDoo | s-fox: where are you? | 12:30 |
| diplo | Ye olde was the first place i visited | 12:30 |
| MooDoo | i'm sensing a ubuntu night in nottingham is coming up :) | 12:30 |
| terran | Can we start the night in Bugman's Bar? | 12:31 |
| MartijnVdS | diplo: because it's down the road from the train station? :) | 12:31 |
| MooDoo | lol | 12:32 |
| MooDoo | i work about 10 mins from the train station and about 5 from the trip :D | 12:32 |
| diplo | heh and my hotel | 12:33 |
| terran | I got a delicious burger and a really good pint of Guinness in Bugmans Bar | 12:33 |
| diplo | Well I'm up for it next time I visit Headoffice | 12:33 |
| terran | plus how often do you get to drink in a place with an Orc head mounted on the wall | 12:33 |
| MooDoo | lol haven't been to games workshop in ages :D | 12:34 |
| * MartijnVdS works about 30 minutes from East Midlands airport (= 30min from Amsterdam airport ;) | 12:34 | |
| * MooDoo lives 10 miles from notts and just down the road from the castle :) | 12:35 | |
| MooDoo | nottingham has a great beer festival in oct....you'll all have to come to that :D | 12:35 |
| MooDoo | http://www.nottinghamcamra.org/ | 12:36 |
| MooDoo | :D | 12:36 |
| s-fox | MooDoo, I am currently living halfway between leicester and coventry | 12:36 |
| MooDoo | s-fox: ah not that far then | 12:36 |
| gord | sometimes, just sometimes. i middle click the "new tab" button in firefox. never feel clever doing that | 12:40 |
| === denny- is now known as denny | ||
| shauno | wow. trees are a lot more flammable than I expected. | 12:52 |
| popey | heh | 12:52 |
| * popey invites shauno to #ubuntu-uk-minecraft | 12:52 | |
| directhex | are mines more craftable than you expected? | 12:54 |
| === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller | ||
| Daviey | popey, is minecraft good then? | 13:02 |
| popey | oh hai Daviey :) | 13:03 |
| popey | yes | 13:03 |
| directhex | just don't confuse it for a game | 13:03 |
| Daviey | it's like crack is it? | 13:03 |
| popey | a tiny bit | 13:03 |
| MartijnVdS | Minecrack | 13:03 |
| Daviey | hmm | 13:03 |
| MartijnVdS | \o Daviey btw | 13:03 |
| Daviey | popey, Have you lost your job over it yet? | 13:03 |
| directhex | it's more like farmville than simcity, tbh | 13:03 |
| Daviey | MartijnVdS, o/ | 13:03 |
| popey | heh, no | 13:04 |
| * Daviey ponders if it's worth €14.95... | 13:04 | |
| popey | whatever it is, it's fun, IMO | 13:05 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: does it work on intel gfx? | 13:05 |
| popey | no idea | 13:05 |
| Daviey | it's java isn't it... write once, run anywhere! :) | 13:05 |
| popey | write once, debug everywhere | 13:05 |
| MartijnVdS | Daviey: sure it'll run.. but will it be 3D-accelerated :) | 13:05 |
| Daviey | MartijnVdS, oh - 3D is overated. | 13:06 |
| popey | tempted to buy a second copy for the kids | 13:06 |
| popey | well, two more copies | 13:06 |
| directhex | write once, don't run on dual-monitor setup due to lwjgl bugs | 13:07 |
| Daviey | WOW... have you seen how much money he's made from it? | 13:08 |
| popey | i would imagine some millions | 13:08 |
| popey | given how many people have bought it | 13:08 |
| directhex | profit = income - costs | 13:09 |
| Daviey | 15 million pounds based on some back of cig packet calcs | 13:09 |
| Daviey | and #10K per day | 13:09 |
| popey | it was cheaper | 13:09 |
| Daviey | and ##0K per day | 13:09 |
| popey | its not always been 15EUR | 13:09 |
| Daviey | keyboard fail. | 13:09 |
| Daviey | ah | 13:09 |
| Daviey | still.. he's making a good daily bread. | 13:10 |
| directhex | plus, the profits from the game also need to fund development of the next game | 13:10 |
| popey | or not | 13:10 |
| popey | quit whilst ahead :) | 13:11 |
| popey | although he has said they're working on another game | 13:11 |
| * Daviey wishes he earned 10K per day. | 13:11 | |
| popey | i have already bought two copies | 13:11 |
| popey | i gave one to a nephew | 13:11 |
| Daviey | popey, fancy buying one for me? :) | 13:11 |
| directhex | minecraft is an unusually successful game, but it's not all veyrons for notch | 13:12 |
| directhex | the industry isn't that simple | 13:12 |
| Daviey | popey, check out http://www.minecraft.net/buy_gift_codes.jsp :) | 13:13 |
| AlanBell | o/ Daviey | 13:14 |
| Daviey | hello AlanBell ! | 13:16 |
| AlanBell | we got the CDs sorted in the end, I went to Millbank and grovelled | 13:18 |
| AlanBell | and the show is pretty dead so we haven't used many | 13:18 |
| czajkowski | heh | 13:18 |
| czajkowski | heard it's pretty bad there | 13:19 |
| AlanBell | one of the bits of swag we have is the official ubuntu book | 13:19 |
| AlanBell | we were thinking of using this and maybe some other stuff as a prize in an Ubuntu-UK quiz night | 13:19 |
| AlanBell | there is a channel with a quiz bot in isn't there? | 13:19 |
| AlanBell | obviously the winner probably doesn't need the book, so it should go to the most ignorant player :) | 13:20 |
| dwatkins | There's probably lots of them, AlanBell. I know of one retro-gaming channel where a bot asks questions all day long. | 13:20 |
| AlanBell | I think there is a #ubuntu- one | 13:20 |
| Daviey | AlanBell, there is | 13:21 |
| Daviey | good to hear it's ok | 13:21 |
| MonsterKiller | to start something in a screen you do like: screen <screen name> <command you want to run in screen> ? | 13:21 |
| Daviey | sad to hear it's quiet | 13:21 |
| Daviey | i feared it might be after last time. | 13:21 |
| AlanBell | yeah | 13:21 |
| AlanBell | more cloud stuff than before | 13:22 |
| Daviey | AlanBell, Did you look for the hype 2.0 complaint stickers? | 13:22 |
| AlanBell | who has them? | 13:23 |
| Daviey | Most companies i thought..... | 13:23 |
| DJones | MonsterKiller: I just do "screen" in a terminal, press space when prompted, then whatever the command I need to run is | 13:23 |
| Daviey | In cloud news, i assume you heard that Dell are now shipping UEC? | 13:24 |
| AlanBell | yes, we saw the press release | 13:25 |
| AlanBell | popey: czajkowski: will we see you later? | 13:28 |
| czajkowski | AlanBell: I'm hopint to head to the font thingy | 13:30 |
| czajkowski | once I figure out where it is | 13:30 |
| czajkowski | :) | 13:30 |
| AlanBell | London Bridge tube | 13:30 |
| AlanBell | waterloo then Jubilee line | 13:31 |
| czajkowski | did you find your phone | 13:33 |
| AlanBell | no | 13:35 |
| czajkowski | :( | 13:36 |
| AlanBell | they are sending me a new sim and I will find an old handset to use | 13:43 |
| AlanBell | until June when I get an upgrade | 13:43 |
| AlanBell | but TheOpenSourcerer tells me company policy means I can't get an iPhone 5 | 13:43 |
| danfish | your conscience means you can't get an iphone 5 ;) | 13:44 |
| * MartijnVdS watched the Honeycomb event yesterday | 13:44 | |
| MartijnVdS | I want that tablet now | 13:44 |
| dutchie | market.android.com is scary | 13:45 |
| MartijnVdS | dutchie: it's cool | 13:45 |
| dutchie | it is cool | 13:46 |
| * MartijnVdS tried it earlier | 13:46 | |
| dutchie | but the lack of requirement to activate and the speed at which downloads start is just terrifying | 13:46 |
| dutchie | well, until you think about it | 13:46 |
| popey | AlanBell: you "lost" your streak? | 13:46 |
| popey | cunning | 13:47 |
| popey | I'd probably "lose" mine if I had one | 13:47 |
| MartijnVdS | dutchie: this is the way it has always worked | 13:47 |
| popey | Interesting thing I heard that the return rate for Samsung Galaxy S was ~16% vs Apple iPad 2% in the USA. | 13:47 |
| MartijnVdS | dutchie: (that's why there was a small delay between clicking "install" and install starting) | 13:47 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: maybe because apple doesn't accept returns? :P | 13:48 |
| popey | hahah | 13:48 |
| popey | (they do) | 13:48 |
| popey | Steve knows his stuff is perfect, why allow returns? | 13:48 |
| gord | yeah i think there is consumer laws about that ;) | 13:49 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: in the UK, yes | 13:50 |
| MartijnVdS | gord: in the US, not so much | 13:50 |
| gord | although i don't think comparing return rates of such different products is a valid comparison | 13:52 |
| popey | when would it be a valid comparison | 13:52 |
| gord | i think people who get an ipad very explicitly wanted "an ipad" thus not likely to return, whereas people who got a galaxy S wanted "a phone" and thus might not live up to their needs | 13:52 |
| AlanBell | popey: we have returned a total of three streaks I think | 13:52 |
| popey | erk | 13:52 |
| AlanBell | out of two | 13:53 |
| gord | i think return rates are far too variable for any comparison to be valid, unless it was explicitly "this hardware is broken" return rates | 13:53 |
| popey | i haven't returned any apple products, and I have 6 | 13:53 |
| popey | although I did lose one on the eurostar | 13:53 |
| AlanBell | I remember that | 13:54 |
| Daviey | I've never lost an andorid based product on a eurostar. | 13:54 |
| czajkowski | Daviey: you also never got off on the wrong stop either did you | 13:54 |
| Daviey | I have found the apple charger for the laptops to have a few design issues :/ | 13:55 |
| gord | i can't remember the last product i returned, maybe my kindle, but thats because it broke the week i got it... got it replaced more than returned | 13:55 |
| Daviey | czajkowski, I have often got off at the wrong stop :) | 13:55 |
| Daviey | Sound on my macbookpro7,1 under natty is less than good at the moment. | 13:55 |
| * Daviey blames Steve. | 13:56 | |
| DaveMorris | http://2011.beercamp.com/ | 14:00 |
| HazRPG | afternoon all \o# | 14:00 |
| MartijnVdS | \o hazman | 14:00 |
| gord | popey, y'know how the alt-tab thing is slow... in the ccsm settings for "static application switcher" under behaviour it has a "popup window delay" set to 0.2, setting it back to 0 makes it snappy for me (although seing others with less powerful computers having slow alt tab still) | 14:00 |
| popey | well, I'm kinda hosed at the moment, my unity experience has stopped due to no nvidia driver | 14:01 |
| Daviey | oh good... i just updated X, removing nvidia-current | 14:01 |
| Daviey | this has a bad feeling. | 14:01 |
| popey | yes, that | 14:01 |
| Daviey | hurray! | 14:01 |
| popey | there is no nvidia-current for the latest x | 14:01 |
| Daviey | i literally JUST did it. | 14:01 |
| popey | dont do that | 14:02 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: in case you were curious, it turned-out I should have specified the name of the domain in capitals when using the kinit command. | 14:02 |
| Laney | always watch what is removed :( | 14:02 |
| gord | if only we had the osx time machine | 14:02 |
| Daviey | popey, tooo late... i even had to use dpkg force, as apt wouldn't let me do it :) | 14:02 |
| gord | have we not copied that yet? | 14:02 |
| MartijnVdS | dwatkins: of course! you have to shout at windows boxes to make them do what you want them to do ;) | 14:02 |
| dwatkins | MartijnVdS: heh | 14:02 |
| Daviey | gord, When is X gonna be good with nvidia? | 14:02 |
| popey | if only apt had undo | 14:03 |
| Laney | does time machine cover system components? | 14:03 |
| gord | Daviey, i have no idea, it works okay for me updated on monday. ask #ubuntu-x | 14:03 |
| popey | 11:42:04 < yofel> there is NO nvidia driver yet that works with the new xserver, not even nvidias current beta driver | 14:03 |
| Daviey | gord, pah :) | 14:04 |
| * Daviey had better not reboot. | 14:04 | |
| * Laney has been using safe-upgrade for ages, and will be until the huge transition he is working on is finished :'( | 14:04 | |
| gord | oh great, i suggest you guys get used to that open source driver then... | 14:04 |
| Laney | . o O ( when is FF? ) | 14:04 |
| Daviey | Laney, open a vnc session, and i'll open a browser for you and navigate to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule .. | 14:05 |
| Laney | it was in a thought bubble and therefore rhetorical, but thanks for your politeness | 14:06 |
| Daviey | Laney, np :) | 14:06 |
| bigcalm | These low fat super noodles are a bit pants. Ho hum | 14:07 |
| Daviey | bigcalm, Panter than you expected? | 14:08 |
| * selinuxium chuckles... | 14:08 | |
| bigcalm | Daviey: I quite like super noodles. But I don't always have the low fat ones. Now I remember why | 14:08 |
| selinuxium | Hi Daviey | 14:08 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: when you getting here kiddo? | 14:08 |
| * bigcalm pulls a pair of boxershorts from between his teeth | 14:09 | |
| DJones | bigcalm: Is it possible to use the words "low fat" ini any other context than "a bit pants" | 14:09 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: czajkowski i want a photo of you two together with no bruises please :) | 14:09 |
| selinuxium | bigcalm, I thought the only difference was that you get less noodles in the diet pack.. | 14:09 |
| Daviey | bigcalm, :( | 14:09 |
| Daviey | selinuxium, o/ | 14:09 |
| bigcalm | <cough>fewer</cough> | 14:10 |
| Daviey | less watts! | 14:10 |
| bigcalm | selinuxium: same quantity, odd product though | 14:10 |
| popey | tasteless | 14:10 |
| popey | watery | 14:11 |
| popey | much like all diet food :) | 14:11 |
| popey | also, the nouveau driver is rubbish, it flickers every few seconds | 14:11 |
| Darael | popey: those two words could describe so much incredibly accurately... not only food, either... | 14:11 |
| bigcalm | One could say that the skimmed milk that I have in my tea is "low fat". But I likes that | 14:11 |
| HazRPG | MartijnVdS: :) | 14:11 |
| popey | ooo | 14:11 |
| popey | chai o'clock | 14:11 |
| HazRPG | I'm hooked on Minecraft now >_< | 14:11 |
| MartijnVdS | HazRPG: Told you so | 14:12 |
| HazRPG | >_< | 14:12 |
| HazRPG | I know... >_< | 14:12 |
| bigcalm | Hehe | 14:12 |
| * Darael makes mental note not to start playing. It's clearly not a good idea. | 14:12 | |
| bigcalm | I deleted it as it was getting in the way of work | 14:12 |
| HazRPG | now that I've got a hut... its all the more addictive, at first I though "this is crap, I'll never build anything fast enough to protect myself | 14:12 |
| HazRPG | " | 14:12 |
| bigcalm | HazRPG: If you were really stuck, one could just dig a hole for the 1st night | 14:13 |
| HazRPG | bigcalm: is that why you have a place that says "claim this house"? | 14:13 |
| bigcalm | HazRPG: I didn't write that sign. I wrote the one next to it | 14:13 |
| bigcalm | You're welcome to it if you want it | 14:13 |
| HazRPG | bigcalm: didn't realise that until after the first 5 or so deaths | 14:14 |
| popey | i wrote the claim sign | 14:14 |
| HazRPG | bigcalm: yeah I saw that one too | 14:14 |
| popey | didnt know whose it was | 14:14 |
| Daviey | popey, I did run my own nouveau driver for a while... but every kernel upgrade was a PITA | 14:14 |
| Daviey | i did consider dkms'ing it... then thought... well.. i just hate freedom. | 14:14 |
| popey | why do we update x without waiting for a driver from nvidia? | 14:14 |
| popey | or is it us updating that prompts them to update? | 14:14 |
| Daviey | probably chicken + egg? | 14:15 |
| popey | yeah | 14:15 |
| popey | wish they'd just open source the damn thing | 14:15 |
| HazRPG | ikr :/ | 14:15 |
| bigcalm | Gah | 14:16 |
| bigcalm | Why do some email clients imbed images into emails rather than attach them? | 14:16 |
| HazRPG | think it'd be possible to make like a tunnel that goes between two houses underground? | 14:18 |
| popey | everyone in offices does that | 14:18 |
| popey | printscreen, new mail, paste | 14:18 |
| bigcalm | HazRPG: yes | 14:18 |
| bigcalm | popey: this came from an applemail client. I blame Steve Jobs for everything | 14:18 |
| popey | ok, cmd+shift+3, cmd n for new mail, drag image from desktop :) | 14:19 |
| bigcalm | Aha | 14:21 |
| dwatkins | cmd+shift+4, space, click for just a window, iirc | 14:33 |
| popey | yeah | 14:35 |
| popey | most obscure shortcut ever | 14:35 |
| popey | also, interesting to note that GNOME Shell ships with a built in screencast app | 14:35 |
| dwatkins | It's one thing I'm very surprised at which Macs are very difficult for, screenshots. | 14:35 |
| Myrtti | whee, new laptop | 14:38 |
| Myrtti | sadly, it comes with Ubuntu 9.10 preinstalled | 14:38 |
| AlanBell | could be sadder | 14:39 |
| popey | Dell? | 14:39 |
| Myrtti | popey: yeah, our company work laptop standard issue | 14:39 |
| Myrtti | AlanBell: in the sense that it could come with Windows, true | 14:39 |
| Myrtti | otherwise, no | 14:39 |
| Myrtti | I'll have to nuke the installation anyway, and that's sad | 14:40 |
| Myrtti | ubuntu 32-bit 9.10 desktop --> xubuntu 64-bit 10.10 alternate with luks | 14:41 |
| HazRPG | not easy avoiding water underground | 14:45 |
| * HazRPG building himself a tunnel xD | 14:45 | |
| DJones | HazRPG: How do you _build_ a tunnel? | 14:47 |
| HazRPG | line the walls with coblestone? | 14:48 |
| Twinkletoes | Does anybody have experience of bacula and/or recent versions of amanda? I've been using bacula but it's very complicated (still not sure I'm running it right!) and for the small number of servers I have to backup, a 6GB+ catalogue file is a bit excessive. Any comments, suggestions or ideas? | 14:48 |
| DJones | HazRPG: Good answer | 14:48 |
| HazRPG | DJones: :P | 14:49 |
| HazRPG | otherwise I would have just said I was digging a tunnel :P | 14:49 |
| HazRPG | ah crap, didn't count how many spaces to the left I needed to go before I hit water | 14:53 |
| DJones | Does that mean your tunnel is flooded | 14:53 |
| HazRPG | not just yet | 14:54 |
| HazRPG | I saw gravel and thought to myself "hmmm... that's usually near water... I'll fill that back up with coblestone... and go left again" | 14:54 |
| * popey invites HazRPG to #ubuntu-uk-minecraft :) | 14:54 | |
| HazRPG | popey: ^^, didn't know it was there | 14:56 |
| screen-x | Twinkletoes: rsnapshot | 14:56 |
| screen-x | Just had a uknof email saying the final 5 /8s have been allocated, so the IANA pool is now empty.. | 14:57 |
| Twinkletoes | screen-x: Thankyou - looks interesting, reading now | 14:57 |
| screen-x | Go panic buy water, or get your anti-nat cannons ready. | 14:57 |
| Neoti|work | yey for ipv6 | 14:58 |
| Neoti|work | lol | 14:58 |
| AlanBell | did you see the ipv6 song? | 14:58 |
| screen-x | nope...? | 14:58 |
| Neoti|work | yes ... | 14:58 |
| danfish | screen-x: I have a spare ipv4 going. The bidding starts at £50 | 14:58 |
| danfish | ;) | 14:58 |
| Neoti|work | i personally dont like IP v6... i think they should have just added some oct on ... | 14:58 |
| Neoti|work | dam it ... | 14:58 |
| Neoti|work | who wanted to remember a hexdec thing. | 14:59 |
| Neoti|work | 192.168.200.100 is far more easyer to remember lol | 14:59 |
| screen-x | danfish: nah, that belongs to your ISP ;-) It would be good if you could get a single provider independent address, but that would make for _very_ large routing tables. | 15:00 |
| AlanBell | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qYS31SOq6A | 15:00 |
| danfish | screen-x: nah - it's mine honest and very unique - "127.0.0.1" :P | 15:02 |
| popey | www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pube5Aynsls | 15:02 |
| popey | *shudder* | 15:02 |
| AlanBell | how the heck did they get that youtube URL and why is popey pasting it here? | 15:03 |
| popey | haha | 15:03 |
| popey | its got RMS in it | 15:03 |
| danfish | why is it I read the bit after the "=" in popey's link as "pube analysis"? | 15:04 |
| danfish | ...I need to keep taking the tablets | 15:05 |
| * popey points danfish at AlanBell and around 2 mins ago | 15:05 | |
| danfish | popey: d'oh! | 15:05 |
| * AlanBell clicks cautiously | 15:07 | |
| AlanBell | oh my | 15:07 |
| AlanBell | I think I would rather watch what I thought it was going to be | 15:07 |
| Pendulum | AlanBell: do I want to know what you thought it would be? | 15:08 |
| screen-x | AlanBell: ipv6 song, very good :) | 15:09 |
| AlanBell | Pendulum: no, you don't want to know that | 15:09 |
| dogmatic69 | anyone know why the sensors applet does not show my cpu? i3 on a Gigabyte GA-H55M-S2 mobo | 15:10 |
| dogmatic69 | running x86 10.10 | 15:10 |
| AlanBell | shhh shhhh, it's oh so quiet | 15:11 |
| dogmatic69 | :( | 15:12 |
| popey | AlanBell: you at the expo again? | 15:13 |
| AlanBell | yes | 15:13 |
| AlanBell | then on to the font thing | 15:13 |
| popey | ah | 15:15 |
| popey | hows the expo today? | 15:16 |
| MartijnVdS | http://i.imgur.com/qePef.jpg | 15:18 |
| popey | :) | 15:20 |
| AlanBell | it isn't very busy | 15:23 |
| AlanBell | if nobody turns up soon I may be forced to install minecraft | 15:24 |
| kazade | AlanBell, do it! | 15:24 |
| pauliunx | hi, i have a question: I recently installed lxde (lubuntu) and I'm very very happy with the desktop environment but it has a problem, it has no gui for setting up dual monitors [ BIG desktop ], so what I did was log out, re-load gnome, create the monitor layout with it's monitor gui and then logged out again and logged in with lxde and it works. the only problem is, when I restart my computer and login with my lxde again, the big layout is lost so I have | 15:25 |
| pauliunx | i have a radeon 9550 card | 15:25 |
| popey | haha | 15:26 |
| * popey points pauliunx at MartijnVdS who knows about ATI cards :) | 15:27 | |
| popey | pauliunx: you probably need to make an xorg.conf | 15:27 |
| popey | AlanBell: you'll be welcome in #ubuntu-uk-minecraft | 15:27 |
| pauliunx | popey: yea i found out about that file, no idea how to write it though.. | 15:27 |
| kazade | pauliunx, are you using the official driver (from the hardware drivers section) or the default open source one? | 15:29 |
| pauliunx | kazade: the default one, when i go to hardware drivers, it says no proprietary drivers were found | 15:31 |
| kazade | ah ok, then I don't think an Xorg.conf is gonna help you.. | 15:31 |
| pauliunx | i see amd released catalyst drivers for ubuntu 10.4 | 15:32 |
| pauliunx | downloading them now | 15:32 |
| kazade | pauliunx, wait.. | 15:32 |
| pauliunx | maybe i can set things up over there | 15:32 |
| kazade | it it's not listed in hardware drivers, it means either a.) your card is no longer supported by AMD or b.) you are missing a package | 15:33 |
| pauliunx | oh...probably a) then | 15:33 |
| kazade | pauliunx, just to be sure, make sure "fglrx-modaliases" is installed | 15:33 |
| kazade | that contains the info of which driver supports which card | 15:33 |
| kazade | if it's missing, hardware drivers will be empty even if your card isn't supported | 15:34 |
| kazade | *is | 15:34 |
| pauliunx | it's already installed | 15:34 |
| pauliunx | fglrx-modaliases is already the newest version. | 15:35 |
| kazade | ok, that means that installing the driver from AMD won't work (and may break stuff) | 15:35 |
| pauliunx | can't I just copy/paste the files that are generating the current layout somewhere to make them permanent? | 15:35 |
| kazade | apparently lxde has a monitor tool called LXRandr | 15:35 |
| kazade | sudo apt-get install lxrandr ? | 15:35 |
| pauliunx | yes, but it only offers turning the monitors on/off and rezolutions | 15:35 |
| pauliunx | nothing past that, doesn't give the choice of extending a monitor | 15:36 |
| kazade | I see... it's odd that it's not saving the information | 15:36 |
| kazade | what you did is supposed to make it permanent, at least for you | 15:36 |
| pauliunx | hm...i guess lxde and gnome use different files when loading | 15:37 |
| kazade | they shouldn't do, it's the same underlying technology (xrandr) | 15:37 |
| kazade | um, perhaps ask the lxde guys? | 15:37 |
| kazade | http://wiki.lxde.org/en/IRC_Chat | 15:37 |
| pauliunx | on their forum it says they have no developers who use two monitors :)) | 15:38 |
| kazade | oh... brilliant | 15:38 |
| pauliunx | alrighty, I'll just leave it at this for now | 15:38 |
| kazade | and xorg.conf will probably work | 15:39 |
| kazade | although, it's not *supposed* to be the way to do it :) | 15:39 |
| pauliunx | don't know how to do it | 15:39 |
| kazade | some info here: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/2009/06/01 | 15:39 |
| kazade | it's not ideal.. | 15:40 |
| kazade | hmm, pauliunx can you run the gnome monitor config from inside lxde? | 15:40 |
| pauliunx | it doesn't show up | 15:40 |
| kazade | run: gnome-display-properties | 15:41 |
| kazade | either in ALT+F2 (if lxde has it) or from a terminal | 15:41 |
| kazade | pauliunx, I understand the problem | 15:42 |
| kazade | lxde is supposed to set your saved mode at login, but apparently it doesn't. So you can add a line to a file called /etc/xdg/lxsession/autostart ... | 15:43 |
| AlanBell | sladen is here now | 15:43 |
| kazade | although, the xrandr line will be dependent on your setup :( | 15:43 |
| kazade | pauliunx, some info here: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=375 | 15:44 |
| pauliunx | kazade: sorry, got disconnected | 15:47 |
| pauliunx | yes, i can run gnome-display but it doesn't actually do anything | 15:47 |
| pauliunx | if I click apply nothing changes | 15:47 |
| pauliunx | any idea why? | 15:48 |
| kazade | erm... | 15:48 |
| kazade | no, that should have worked | 15:48 |
| kazade | if you run it in a terminal, is there any output (e.g an error) | 15:49 |
| kazade | ? | 15:49 |
| pauliunx | two warnings | 15:49 |
| pauliunx | (gnome-display-properties:1754): Gtk-WARNING **: Ignoring the separator setting | 15:49 |
| pauliunx | (gnome-display-properties:1754): Gtk-WARNING **: No object called: | 15:49 |
| kazade | hmm, I dunno :( | 15:50 |
| kazade | that really should've worked... | 15:50 |
| pauliunx | could you please give me the xorg.conf link again? | 15:50 |
| pauliunx | gonna try it that way | 15:50 |
| screen-x | Things never look quite how I expect them to: http://prt.org/new/html/k.marmite-servers.net.html | 15:51 |
| kazade | pauliunx, this is useful: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Xorg_RandR_1.2#Using__.24_xrandr | 15:51 |
| kazade | pauliunx, here's the original link I sent you: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/2009/06/01 | 15:51 |
| kazade | actually, that doesn't tell you what I thought it did | 15:52 |
| kazade | here we go: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html | 15:53 |
| kazade | that tells you the two methods (xrandr and xorg.conf) | 15:53 |
| kazade | for "Driver" you want "ati" | 15:53 |
| kazade | I think... or maybe "radeon" I can't remember | 15:53 |
| kazade | but definitely not "intel" :p | 15:53 |
| daubers | o/ | 15:54 |
| popey | AlanBell: give sladen a hug from me | 15:54 |
| pauliunx | thanks kazade | 15:56 |
| pauliunx | i'll try that now | 15:56 |
| * daubers popped into the expo, wasn't very impressed said hello and vanished again | 16:10 | |
| MooDoo | daubers: that good eh? | 16:15 |
| screen-x | dogmatic69: I got some sensor info by loading the coretemp module | 16:16 |
| AlanBell | daubers: did you? | 16:16 |
| daubers | AlanBell: I did indeed :) | 16:17 |
| dogmatic69 | screen-x: i got it going, sensor-detect | 16:17 |
| AlanBell | daubers: this morning? | 16:17 |
| daubers | AlanBell: About lunchtime, you had gone to see a customer apparently | 16:17 |
| screen-x | dogmatic69: sensors-detect didn't find anything for me, had to load the module manually. | 16:17 |
| daubers | :) | 16:17 |
| AlanBell | bother, probably just missed you | 16:17 |
| AlanBell | we got here at lunchtime | 16:17 |
| dogmatic69 | well i just restarted after that | 16:17 |
| daubers | Ahh, ok | 16:18 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Ralph Janke] Update Regarding Usage Based Billing of the Internet in Canada - Government will Reverse CRTC ruling - http://drupal.txwikinger.me.uk/content/update-regarding-usage-based-billing-internet-canada-government-will-reverse-crtc-ruling | 16:20 |
| kaushal | Hi | 16:43 |
| kaushal | I have a question regarding cron which invokes the shell script at 9am and 9pm | 16:43 |
| kaushal | How do i handle the situation when the job which is running since 9am has not yet completed | 16:44 |
| kaushal | till 9pm | 16:44 |
| screen-x | kaushal: pidfiel | 16:44 |
| screen-x | pid file even | 16:44 |
| kaushal | screen-x: not sure i understand that | 16:45 |
| === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller | ||
| AlanBell | well everyone is packing up now | 16:53 |
| AlanBell | think the expo is done | 16:53 |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: everyone wants to go to the pub | 16:54 |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: so was it worth it? | 16:54 |
| screen-x | bother, I keep starting a converstation then getting disconnected and not realising :( | 17:05 |
| * screen-x slaps bip | 17:06 | |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: check out my fb page pic of czajkowski just for you dude :) | 17:54 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: geotagged too | 17:54 |
| gurkan_ | hi all | 19:05 |
| gurkan_ | how to set the smtp server of my provider in my home's mailrc file i use mailutils 2.1 | 19:05 |
| Baikonur | dunno | 19:17 |
| gurkan_ | dunno | 19:18 |
| gurkan_ | ? | 19:18 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Ralph Janke] AskUbuntu has Gone through the 10,000 Users Threshold - http://drupal.txwikinger.me.uk/content/askubuntu-has-gone-through-10000-users-threshold | 19:20 |
| MartijnVdS | IT'S OVER 9000! | 19:20 |
| pr0ph3t | hi all | 19:24 |
| pr0ph3t | I need to run this command LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype, but if I add it as a launcher it gives me error, the only way I can run it is typing it onto the terminal | 19:25 |
| pr0ph3t | how do I create a launcher for that? Should I create a bash script that replaces the skype in /usr/bin/? | 19:26 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: create a small shell script, then have the launcher launch the shell script | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: shell script can be two lines: | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | #! /bin/bash | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | LD_PRELOAD=etc etc | 19:27 |
| pr0ph3t | and then make it exec | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | call it "skype.sh", put it somewhere in your homedir, make it executable (you can do this in the "Properties" screen in the file manager) | 19:27 |
| MartijnVdS | exactly | 19:27 |
| pr0ph3t | ok thanks MartijnVdS | 19:28 |
| pr0ph3t | MartijnVdS, is it chmod 777 skype.sh? | 19:31 |
| === cbx333 is now known as cbx33 | ||
| MartijnVdS | pr0ph3t: 777 is way too much | 19:56 |
| MartijnVdS | 755 is more than enough.. but I'd recommend just saying: chmod u+x file | 19:56 |
| MartijnVdS | ("for user add execute") | 19:56 |
| pr0ph3t | thank you | 19:56 |
| pr0ph3t_ | re all | 20:02 |
| === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller | ||
| MonsterKiller | Hey. I tried to change my ubuntu server password and got: passwd: Authentication token manipulation error | 20:06 |
| MonsterKiller | what does it mean? :/ | 20:09 |
| MartijnVdS | it means either your old password was wrong | 20:26 |
| MartijnVdS | or the new ones didn't match | 20:26 |
| xircon-brb | Hi | 20:44 |
| === xircon-brb is now known as xircon-st | ||
| xircon-st | Just testing my cheapo scroll tablet from maplins | 20:46 |
| BigRedS | Ooooh, how is it? | 20:46 |
| xircon-st | Better since I rooted it and installed a different build.prop | 20:47 |
| xircon-st | You get what you pay for android market worked briefly (manual states it is not supported) | 20:48 |
| xircon-st | Also better with a cheap nintendo ds stylus | 20:49 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller | ||
| BigRedS | Hmmm | 20:50 |
| BigRedS | I've been pondering one of those as a sort-of marginally-smart-screen more than a tablet | 20:50 |
| xircon-st | In retrospect I should have perhaps got a stream of a galaxy but it's OK for the money | 20:52 |
| xircon-st | Sorry streak! | 20:53 |
| BigRedS | I did wonder :) | 20:53 |
| xircon-st | Bloody SwiftKey keyboard still getting used to it | 20:53 |
| xircon-st | It's pretty good though, can type fairly quickly good find | 20:55 |
| xircon-st | There is a very friendly forum looking at an upgrade to2. 2 | 20:56 |
| * MartijnVdS is waiting for that Xoom thing | 20:59 | |
| MartijnVdS | with Honeycomb | 20:59 |
| xircon-st | Any pricing available yet | 20:59 |
| MartijnVdS | no | 21:02 |
| MartijnVdS | well | 21:02 |
| MartijnVdS | the US price without a plan will be €550ish | 21:02 |
| MartijnVdS | (after conversion) | 21:02 |
| xircon-st | Unfortunately $ normally = £ | 21:03 |
| xircon-st | We live in a ripoff world | 21:04 |
| MartijnVdS | yes | 21:08 |
| MartijnVdS | same with € | 21:08 |
| === monsterkiller is now known as MonsterKiller | ||
| Azelphur | behavioural advertising is funny, it always shows me things I've already bought | 21:23 |
| Azelphur | it's like anti-advertising. | 21:23 |
| MartijnVdS | what like Russian brides? :P | 21:49 |
| brobostigon-andr | Evening evryone. | 21:49 |
| MartijnVdS | \o brobostigon-andr | 21:50 |
| brobostigon-andr | Hey MartijnVdS | 21:50 |
| suprengr | o/ brobostigon-andr MartijnVdS | 21:50 |
| suprengr | are we the only ones not at the 'do' | 21:50 |
| brobostigon-andr | Hi suprengr | 21:50 |
| brobostigon-andr | Maybe | 21:51 |
| brobostigon-andr | I just had a chat with my dad and he has something good for me to work on. | 21:51 |
| brobostigon-andr | Damn. Battery. :( | 21:53 |
| * BigRedS isn't at the do | 21:53 | |
| BigRedS | Is this the font thingy you're on about? | 21:53 |
| brobostigon-andr | No. | 21:53 |
| brobostigon-andr | My dad his forming his own company and wants me to do the it. :) | 21:54 |
| brobostigon-andr | IT | 21:54 |
| MartijnVdS | cool | 21:54 |
| brobostigon-andr | MartijnVdS: so I need to find dns and a server provider | 21:55 |
| BigRedS | oooh, handy | 21:55 |
| MartijnVdS | brobostigon-andr: gandi.net, gandi.net :) | 21:55 |
| brobostigon-andr | MartijnVdS: that was my intial thought and then bytemark. | 21:56 |
| MartijnVdS | they're nice people | 21:56 |
| brobostigon-andr | That's the impression I get. | 21:56 |
| * brobostigon-andr is in the pub with his dad,and where he thinks the best. | 21:57 | |
| brobostigon-andr | So this is going to be a lot of work. | 21:58 |
| * suprengr likes brobostigon-andr's Dad... he has brains ;) | 21:58 | |
| * brobostigon-andr gets everyone a real ale. | 21:58 | |
| suprengr | num num... cheers | 21:59 |
| brobostigon-andr | :) | 21:59 |
| BigRedS | mmm, handy | 22:00 |
| brobostigon-andr | So I might be calling on your chaps and gals for help. | 22:00 |
| brobostigon-andr | Ok, speak later. When I get home. | 22:01 |
| brobostigon-andr | Enjoy the beer. :) | 22:02 |
| suprengr | bfn brobostigon-andr & ta for the beer | 22:02 |
| suprengr | [hic] | 22:02 |
| brobostigon-andr | You're welcome suprengr | 22:02 |
| brobostigon-andr | Lol | 22:03 |
| brobostigon-andr | Bbl | 22:03 |
| brobostigon-andr | Cheers | 22:03 |
| brobostigon-andr | Iechyd dda | 22:03 |
| suprengr | & good health 2u2 | 22:05 |
| ubuntuuk-planet | [Jamie Bennett] Linaro 11.05 Alpha-2 Released - http://www.linuxuk.org/2011/02/806/ | 22:20 |
| hamitron | 18 hours downtime for my internet conenction... I got the shakes ;/ | 22:50 |
| Jibadeeha | cold turkey? | 22:53 |
| Azelphur | this is why I have a phone | 22:53 |
| Azelphur | redundancy! | 22:54 |
| Jibadeeha | first question i ask when house hunting is, "can you get broadband?" | 22:54 |
| BigRedS | I forget there ae houses you can't get broadband in | 22:54 |
| Jibadeeha | hard to imagine isn't it | 22:55 |
| BigRedS | Though I have spent the large majority of my life in London | 22:55 |
| Jibadeeha | London gets everything first | 22:55 |
| Jibadeeha | even the plague | 22:55 |
| Jibadeeha | ;) | 22:56 |
| hamitron | :) | 22:57 |
| hamitron | I'd not want to live in London | 22:57 |
| hamitron | too busy, fast and dangerous | 22:57 |
| directhex | off to brussels tomorrow. i'd better play videogames for 3 hours | 22:58 |
| hamitron | get the fix? ;) | 23:00 |
| hamitron | I'm right off comp games after last night | 23:00 |
| hamitron | got to the 18th race of the season on F1 2010, and I am told my team will not be renewing my contract | 23:01 |
| hamitron | :/ | 23:01 |
| hamitron | spent about 2.5 hours per race, and got points in a rubbish car, then they tell me that | 23:02 |
| Jibadeeha | sounds very random | 23:02 |
| Jibadeeha | all that investment to be told that | 23:02 |
| hamitron | I was upset, my team mate has no points | 23:03 |
| hamitron | :) | 23:03 |
| Jibadeeha | i was playing an old game on Spectrum emulator today, and was surprise how addictive the game was .. was just like old times | 23:03 |
| Jibadeeha | Sabre Wulf btw | 23:03 |
| hamitron | and a Lotus in F1, getting 3rd and 6th in 2 races is good.... | 23:03 |
| hamitron | never played it | 23:03 |
| hamitron | I always liked Millionaire | 23:04 |
| Jibadeeha | fantastic game, but the keys make it hard Q=left, W=right, E=up, R=down, T=sword | 23:04 |
| hamitron | :) | 23:04 |
| Jibadeeha | given your nickname hamitron, i would expect you to be driving a McLaren | 23:05 |
| hamitron | I have used this nickname for nearly 15 years | 23:05 |
| Jibadeeha | well before hami in F1 then | 23:05 |
| hamitron | long before | 23:05 |
| hamitron | haha | 23:05 |
| Jibadeeha | hehehe | 23:06 |
| hamitron | I actually mainly play racing games | 23:06 |
| Jibadeeha | last F1 game i played was F1 2008 for my old playstation 1 ... was fantastic | 23:06 |
| hamitron | and find it annoying everyone automatically assumes I got it from that | 23:06 |
| Jibadeeha | oh not 2008 | 23:06 |
| hamitron | I have Formula 1 '97 | 23:06 |
| hamitron | :) | 23:06 |
| Jibadeeha | '98 | 23:06 |
| Jibadeeha | man i am getting old | 23:07 |
| Jibadeeha | time is passing me bye | 23:07 |
| hamitron | in '98.... | 23:07 |
| hamitron | can you see what the weather is like before starting a race? | 23:07 |
| hamitron | :/ | 23:07 |
| Jibadeeha | i can't remember | 23:07 |
| hamitron | I can't find it in F1 '97, and it always ruined it for me | 23:07 |
| hamitron | starting a wet race on slicks :/ | 23:08 |
| Jibadeeha | i always think 98 was a good year for the sport | 23:08 |
| hamitron | draw distance on the PS1 was not nearly as good as the PC either | 23:08 |
| hamitron | was that the year Damon Hill raced for Jordan? | 23:09 |
| Jibadeeha | i loved F1 when it was Schumi v Hakki | 23:09 |
| Jibadeeha | yeah Hill and Schumi as well | 23:09 |
| hamitron | yeh | 23:09 |
| hamitron | mine has Hill in the Arrows | 23:09 |
| Jibadeeha | F1 was great back in those days | 23:09 |
| hamitron | better than now | 23:09 |
| hamitron | but still not overly great | 23:09 |
| Jibadeeha | hamitron, you are making me want to get my play station out of the loft | 23:10 |
| hamitron | :/ | 23:10 |
| hamitron | haha | 23:10 |
| hamitron | my PS1 is boxed atm, just got my NES setup | 23:10 |
| Jibadeeha | the graphics were superb back in the day | 23:10 |
| Jibadeeha | have you tried a PS1 emulator? | 23:10 |
| hamitron | yes | 23:10 |
| Jibadeeha | any good? | 23:11 |
| hamitron | but I have better games for the PC | 23:11 |
| hamitron | it works | 23:11 |
| hamitron | but I see console gaming as just a quick and easy, turn on and play when you want kinda thing | 23:11 |
| Jibadeeha | is it the same speed? | 23:11 |
| hamitron | having to setup an emulator destroys that | 23:11 |
| hamitron | erm | 23:12 |
| hamitron | I think so | 23:12 |
| Jibadeeha | i agree .. prefer using a console for games | 23:12 |
| Jibadeeha | i only have a Wii at the moment and a PS1 | 23:12 |
| Jibadeeha | i keep thinking of buying F1 for Wii, but the graphics don't look so hot | 23:12 |
| hamitron | if I want the trouble of setting up a game on a PC, I play a fully featured PC game :) | 23:12 |
| Jibadeeha | you ever played Metal Gear Solid | 23:13 |
| Azelphur | Jibadeeha: why use a console for games when there are so many good emulators out there and perfectly good methods to hook up controllers? | 23:13 |
| hamitron | no | 23:13 |
| hamitron | Azelphur: it is effort | 23:13 |
| Jibadeeha | Azelphur, i only have a netbook :( | 23:13 |
| Azelphur | it's like A) Buy a Wii, B) Buy a PC that can play Wii, Gamecube, PS2, and anything else you want :P | 23:13 |
| Azelphur | sell the consoles get a decent PC then :P | 23:13 |
| hamitron | I bought a PSP to play games while having a dump ;/ | 23:14 |
| Azelphur | the emulators are even open source, it's like christmas. | 23:14 |
| hamitron | my PC doesn't do it | 23:14 |
| hamitron | short of bring a bowl here | 23:14 |
| Jibadeeha | Azelphur, i am not a big game player though to invest much money into it .. i get bored of playing games after about 2 hours ... only F1 games keep me addicted, don't ask why .. perhaps cos i like the sport | 23:14 |
| hamitron | bringing* | 23:14 |
| Azelphur | I bought an android phone, I have PSX, SNES, NES, Genesis/Megadrive, GBA, GBC, with about 5k games packed onto the SD card and room to spare :D | 23:14 |
| Jibadeeha | Azelphur, i do have a ZX spectrum emulator and 3000 games for it from a CD i bought ... love the old games | 23:15 |
| hamitron | Azelphur: and you reckon that is as easy and relaxing as using a PS2 on a large LCD tv in the living room? | 23:15 |
| Jibadeeha | i don't want to buy a clunky tower/desktop PC - would rather have a console under the TV | 23:16 |
| Azelphur | hamitron: no, I was comparing my android phone to the PSP | 23:16 |
| hamitron | PSP has better controls | 23:16 |
| Azelphur | hamitron: as for the PS2, I have a far superior setup on my TV in the living room too :) | 23:16 |
| Azelphur | hamitron: android has any controls you want, you can get attachable controllers. | 23:16 |
| Jibadeeha | when i had a desktop PC and bought games for it ... there was always the fear of whether the game would perform well on the PC , e..g CPU speed, video card, enough memory, etc ... you don't get that with a console | 23:16 |
| hamitron | Azelphur: and the cost? | 23:16 |
| hamitron | ;/ | 23:17 |
| hamitron | got my PSP for £81 | 23:17 |
| Azelphur | hamitron: in my front room I have MythTV. It has a media center with 1.5TB of media/games. Full DVR capability and a couple of playstation controllers hooked up to it :P | 23:17 |
| Azelphur | hamitron: not bad, I just picked up my mum a psx4droid capable phone for £100 | 23:17 |
| Azelphur | but it was new | 23:17 |
| Azelphur | i assume your psp wasn't :P | 23:17 |
| hamitron | no, but mine reads UMD | 23:18 |
| hamitron | ;) | 23:18 |
| Azelphur | yours doesn't read microsd :) | 23:18 |
| hamitron | PSP games don't come on that :/ | 23:18 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 23:18 |
| hamitron | but I still reckon the feel is better | 23:19 |
| hamitron | a phone can play games, but not really designed for it | 23:19 |
| Azelphur | *shrug* | 23:19 |
| Azelphur | I've played through NFS Shift and most of Gran turismo on my G2 | 23:20 |
| Azelphur | lovin it :P | 23:20 |
| hamitron | sure it is fun... | 23:20 |
| hamitron | ;/ | 23:20 |
| hamitron | I'll play RACE 07 with my logitech FF wheel | 23:20 |
| hamitron | ;) | 23:20 |
| Azelphur | and I'll play flight gear with my flight yoke | 23:21 |
| hamitron | can't dot hat on your phone ;p | 23:21 |
| Azelphur | can't do that on your psp either? | 23:21 |
| hamitron | true, can't make phone calls either, as it is for gaming | 23:22 |
| Azelphur | hehe :) | 23:22 |
| hamitron | I am still a huge fan of the PSP though, feels more modern than even the DS | 23:22 |
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| hamitron | just a shame it is sony | 23:23 |
| Azelphur | hamitron: I just had an interesting idea | 23:23 |
| Azelphur | I wonder if you could use an android phone to do virtual reality | 23:23 |
| hamitron | I liek real reality ;/ | 23:23 |
| hamitron | like* | 23:23 |
| Azelphur | I'mma try it | 23:24 |
| Jibadeeha | i wish flight gear would work on my asus netbook | 23:24 |
| Azelphur | lol it sorta works | 23:24 |
| Azelphur | I fired up google skymap closed one eye and put the phone in front of my eye | 23:24 |
| Jibadeeha | as much as i hate M$ ... flight simulator was fantastic | 23:24 |
| Azelphur | it's really out of focus but it works :o | 23:25 |
| Azelphur | I'mma try it with layar that'd be sick :o | 23:25 |
| Jibadeeha | stellarium is good Azelphur | 23:25 |
| Azelphur | :D | 23:25 |
| Azelphur | better than sky map? | 23:25 |
| hamitron | I never could fly planes | 23:25 |
| hamitron | :/ | 23:25 |
| hamitron | loved the idea of Rowan's Battle of Brit | 23:26 |
| Jibadeeha | well i like google skymap on my android cos it knows what am i looking at by pointing it | 23:26 |
| Azelphur | yea :) | 23:26 |
| Azelphur | that's why I thought it'd be a good test for virtual reality | 23:26 |
| Jibadeeha | true | 23:26 |
| Jibadeeha | i love the number of stars in stellarium though | 23:26 |
| Azelphur | lol, the answer to could an android phone be used for virtual reality is: possibly it's very blurry xD | 23:28 |
| Jibadeeha | my android phone is too slow for virtual reality | 23:29 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 23:29 |
| Azelphur | I have an overclocked G2 :) | 23:29 |
| Jibadeeha | mine is a hero | 23:29 |
| Jibadeeha | but not in the true sense of the word | 23:29 |
| Jibadeeha | do you guys have surround sound? | 23:31 |
| hamitron | no | 23:32 |
| hamitron | 2.1 | 23:32 |
| Jibadeeha | same here hamitron | 23:32 |
| Jibadeeha | i keep thinking of buying a surround system but don't like the idea of so many speakers in my living room and messing about with wires under the carpet | 23:32 |
| hamitron | amp and speakers cost more than most surround sound systems :/ | 23:32 |
| Jibadeeha | hamitron, do you find when you play DVDs in 5.1 on your 2.1 system that you have to turn the volume up a bit higher | 23:33 |
| hamitron | I go for sound quality and power, over directions | 23:33 |
| hamitron | erm | 23:33 |
| hamitron | no :/ | 23:34 |
| Jibadeeha | oh i find that when playing through my TV speakers ... volume is a lot lower | 23:34 |
| Jibadeeha | so do you have your TV connected to your amp | 23:34 |
| hamitron | I have no tv | 23:34 |
| hamitron | ;) | 23:34 |
| Jibadeeha | ah lol | 23:34 |
| hamitron | I sometimes use my parents tv | 23:35 |
| hamitron | it is just fine with tv speakers | 23:35 |
| Jibadeeha | i am not impressed with my parents surround sound tv | 23:35 |
| hamitron | I think it depends what you want from it | 23:36 |
| hamitron | I never listen to music from the tv | 23:36 |
| hamitron | I use a hifi for that | 23:36 |
| Jibadeeha | they got rid of their hifi and now play DVDs through the TV ... not for me ... i have kept my hifi and like all my music to be played through the amp and my technic speakers | 23:37 |
| hamitron | and as for dvd, most my dvd won't have 5.1 | 23:37 |
| Jibadeeha | a lot of DVDs these days are in 5.1 | 23:37 |
| hamitron | "these days"? | 23:38 |
| hamitron | ;/ | 23:38 |
| Jibadeeha | "back in the day" | 23:38 |
| Jibadeeha | lol | 23:38 |
| hamitron | most my dvd are old war movies | 23:38 |
| hamitron | haha | 23:38 |
| Jibadeeha | longest day | 23:38 |
| Jibadeeha | bridge too far | 23:38 |
| hamitron | tbh, I bet most are mono :/ | 23:39 |
| Jibadeeha | hehehe | 23:39 |
| Jibadeeha | Zulu is my fav | 23:39 |
| hamitron | I don't have Zulu | 23:39 |
| Jibadeeha | "chin chin old chap" | 23:39 |
| hamitron | my Dad does | 23:39 |
| hamitron | :)) | 23:39 |
| Jibadeeha | Zulu is a classic - you got to buy it | 23:39 |
| hamitron | yeh, I am still looking for a Michael Caine set I like the look of | 23:40 |
| hamitron | for the right price ofc ;) | 23:40 |
| Jibadeeha | Italian Job, Get Carter, and Zulu | 23:40 |
| Jibadeeha | Educating Rita is good though | 23:40 |
| hamitron | there are so many :/ | 23:40 |
| Jibadeeha | such a good actor | 23:41 |
| hamitron | I like box sets once the cost per movie is less than £1.50 each | 23:41 |
| Jibadeeha | i know what you mean | 23:41 |
| Jibadeeha | they had a Clint Eastwood box set in the supermarket the other day that had about 10 films for next to nothing | 23:41 |
| Jibadeeha | "come here blondie" | 23:42 |
| hamitron | I actually bought Fistful of Dollars trillogy all seperate | 23:43 |
| hamitron | some of my first dvd they were | 23:43 |
| Jibadeeha | good films | 23:43 |
| hamitron | £5 each was cheap then | 23:43 |
| Jibadeeha | "these days" you can pick them up for £3.99, so not bad | 23:44 |
| AlanBell | evening all | 23:44 |
| hamitron | I just got all 22 bond movies for £40 | 23:44 |
| hamitron | well, few weeks ago | 23:44 |
| Jibadeeha | hamitron, amazon? | 23:44 |
| hamitron | yeh | 23:44 |
| Jibadeeha | i might copy you on that one | 23:44 |
| hamitron | it was too good to miss | 23:44 |
| Jibadeeha | love the bond movies | 23:44 |
| Jibadeeha | though wife doesn't | 23:44 |
| hamitron | hi AB | 23:44 |
| hamitron | :) | 23:44 |
| hamitron | it is only the single disc case sets | 23:45 |
| Jibadeeha | "from Russia with love" | 23:45 |
| hamitron | not the double one with extras | 23:45 |
| hamitron | but I never watch extras | 23:45 |
| Jibadeeha | i never rip the extras | 23:45 |
| hamitron | omg | 23:46 |
| hamitron | £65 now | 23:46 |
| hamitron | :/ | 23:46 |
| hamitron | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Collection-including-Quantum-Solace/dp/B00307RT86/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296776745&sr=8-1 | 23:46 |
| Jibadeeha | is that cos John Barry or whatever he is called died? | 23:46 |
| hamitron | could be | 23:46 |
| hamitron | dunno | 23:46 |
| hamitron | it was £65 before xmas | 23:47 |
| hamitron | I just saw it in sale and had to have it | 23:47 |
| Jibadeeha | maybe not then | 23:47 |
| Jibadeeha | the bond movies are the best | 23:47 |
| Jibadeeha | "odd job" | 23:47 |
| hamitron | I am trying to resist Test Drive Unlimited 2 :/ | 23:48 |
| hamitron | £25 on pre-order | 23:49 |
| Jibadeeha | go for it | 23:49 |
| hamitron | the first one I have, but waited till the price had dropped to get it | 23:49 |
| hamitron | and loads had stopped playing by then | 23:50 |
| Jibadeeha | you ever played return to castle wolfenstein | 23:50 |
| hamitron | yeh, I bought it twice | 23:50 |
| hamitron | :) | 23:50 |
| Jibadeeha | think i might buy it and a console that can play it | 23:50 |
| hamitron | a console? | 23:50 |
| Jibadeeha | i remember the very first MS-DOS wolfenstein | 23:51 |
| Jibadeeha | i only have a netbook hamitron | 23:51 |
| hamitron | I didn't know it was on console | 23:51 |
| Jibadeeha | oh it might not be | 23:51 |
| Jibadeeha | will have to check | 23:51 |
| hamitron | ps2 | 23:51 |
| hamitron | xbox | 23:51 |
| hamitron | nice :D | 23:51 |
| hamitron | but gotta use a PC for such games ;) | 23:52 |
| Jibadeeha | i so want to avoid having a desktop | 23:52 |
| Jibadeeha | but Wolfenstein could change that | 23:53 |
| hamitron | won't it play on the netbook? | 23:53 |
| Jibadeeha | doubt it | 23:53 |
| Jibadeeha | this thing won't play flightgear | 23:53 |
| hamitron | but it is a really old game | 23:53 |
| hamitron | 400mhz cpu... | 23:54 |
| hamitron | runs on windows 95 :D | 23:55 |
| Jibadeeha | return to castle wolfeinstein | 23:55 |
| Jibadeeha | it isn't that old | 23:55 |
| Jibadeeha | is it | 23:55 |
| hamitron | yeh | 23:55 |
| hamitron | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_to_Castle_Wolfenstein#Source_Code_Release | 23:56 |
| hamitron | there is actually a newer one also | 23:56 |
| Jibadeeha | 2001 | 23:57 |
| hamitron | I used to run it on my K6-2 500MHz with 2 x voodoo2 in sli | 23:58 |
| hamitron | :) | 23:58 |
| Jibadeeha | i might buy it then as it runs on Linux | 23:58 |
| hamitron | need to check that | 23:58 |
| Jibadeeha | i just assumed it wouldn't work well | 23:58 |
| hamitron | can maybe download it free, released under GPL | 23:59 |
| Jibadeeha | let me check | 23:59 |
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