[00:02] yea!! [00:19] night! xx [00:23] popey: :o, wow! [00:23] ? [00:23] just seen you gmap! [00:23] :0 [00:23] That is epic :P [00:23] fun :) [00:23] Been meaning to mess around with the gmap API's for a while, how'd ya do it? [00:24] i didnt, its someone elses code [00:24] popey: Nice :P [00:25] * HazRPG tries to work out where he can build stuff... [00:26] do the islands form themselves over time? [00:26] or are they hand created (sorta speak) [00:26] as you walk towards the end of the world it generates more world [00:27] nice [00:27] Q) How do you use the train? [00:28] * HazRPG thinks he's found a spot he can set up camp [00:30] nn [00:30] ? [00:31] popey: As in you nn, or do you mean "Night Night"? lol === MonsterKiller is now known as monsterkiller === rich__ is now known as Rohaq [05:11] Woo! Haz has set up shop in popey land. :) [05:13] And I can now stay in my hut and do things instead of logging out when it gets dark xD [05:14] ? [05:14] Oh, minecraft lol. [05:14] hehe [05:15] do you play it? [05:15] play? haha i wish I had time to play [05:16] i wouldn't still be up at 5am working if I had time to play :) [05:17] heh, makes sense I guess [05:18] tonight I have ben mostly spending money i can't afford to spend hehe [05:18] what is it you do? [05:18] heh, I've been playing minecraft, when I should be working on a website :P [05:18] I am a privacy lobbyist/advocate/consultant/public speaker [05:18] morning everyone [05:18] ah [05:18] and just paid out the first installment for my masters :/ [05:18] you're up early/late ;) [05:18] MartijnVdS: :) \o hola [05:18] Paladine: nice [05:19] oh... not so nice [05:19] (I was saying nice to the job title) [05:19] keeps me very busy [05:21] I can imagine [05:21] MartijnVdS: argh... how do I find more clay >_< [05:21] HazRPG: No idea.. next to the river? [05:21] oo I forgot I had a beer next to me :) [05:23] MartijnVdS: one would assume so right :/ [05:23] but I can't find any [05:23] Paladine: winner :) [05:24] HazRPG: have you tried the minecraft wiki for hints? [05:24] yeah cept I should maybe be concerned that I am drinking beer at 5:30am lol [05:24] although I opened it like 1:30am [05:25] have several tabs open about various things xD [05:25] so i guess it is ok [05:30] exactly :P [05:30] wow. that game's a bit of a timesink. just looked up to see if it's midnight yet. err.. [05:30] yeah its pitch black at the moment in popey's server [05:31] I'm hiding in my hut so that I don't get killed [05:32] I tried that, but the green dudes got me anyway. so I've just wasted the last "couple of" hours on an all-out war against creepers :/ [05:33] wait, you in popey's server now too? [05:33] nah, just single-player [05:33] aka "playing with youtself" [05:33] *r [05:33] ;p [05:34] heh [05:37] chasing creepers is quite fun tho. they drop gunpowder, which turns out to be quiet useful for accidentally destroying hours of work [05:39] damn... zombies blew off some of my house somehow! [05:39] that's the ones [05:39] now I really need some clay >_< [05:40] the green ones that look like worms with feet. they hide, survive sunlight, and like to sneak up on you and explode. [05:40] so I can build my house out of brick - and not wood [05:40] some of it is brick so far... just need more clay [05:40] shauno: heh, yeah I noticed [05:40] * ball is confused. [05:41] ball: why? :) [05:43] MartijnVdS: I think it has become my natural state of being. [05:43] ball: Land of Opportunity getting to you? :) [05:44] Heh. ...land of Snowpertunity. [05:44] I spent most of this morning digging the cars out. [05:46] ...and the footpath. Need to widen the entrance to the driveway too. [05:46] I'll work on that in the morning, perhaps. [05:46] you moved to US ball? [05:47] * ball nods [05:47] It seemed like a good idea at the time. [05:47] what on earth possessed you to do that? [05:47] where abouts are you? [05:48] where abouts are you ball? [05:49] Illinois. [05:49] ball: run more CPU-intensive tasks [05:49] oh well it could be worse, you could be working for google ;) [05:50] ball: melt yourself out :) [05:50] ^^, [05:50] Paladine: What would be wrong with working for google? Good pay from what I hear, and awesome benefits. [05:51] haha [05:51] if you knew me you would understand why i found that funny :) [05:51] fair enough :P [05:51] Paladine: you applied and they didn't hire you? [05:51] shauno: there's not enough "day time" in this game :/ [05:51] no, I don't apply for jobs, I turned them down [05:52] 2x [05:52] seriously? You turned down a job a google? [05:52] yes, 2 [05:52] Surely if they wanted you, then they clearly thought you were bright enough to be there - they only hire the smartest of the crop. [05:53] but I didn't want to work for them [05:53] why not, if you don't mind me asking? [05:54] I have filed multiple legal complaints against Google, for me to take a job off them would be rank hypocrisy [05:54] ah [05:54] I work in privacy - Goole + Privacy don't mix lol [05:54] Google [05:55] true [05:55] I should probably put torches around my house :/ [05:55] I have friends who work for them though [05:56] and i meet Google peeps frequently [05:56] in fact we did a google tech talk in mountain view just a couple of months ago [05:56] although it was my directors not me [05:56] random [05:57] HazRPG: I went a little overboard, but I solved my creeper problem :) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23042/2011-02-03_05.51.03.png [05:57] tech talks are like Google internal mini conferences for staff [05:57] shauno: haha nice :P [05:58] Sorry about that. I fell off the Internet. [05:58] actually just last week i was in brussels speaking at a conference and Google's new policy person in Brussels gave me her card - i was like "Don't tell anyone you gave me this, you will get fired..." lol [05:58] ball: time to dig out the telephone wires [05:59] MartijnVdS: Not much point, I'm having the service disconnected tonight [05:59] so ball what you doing out there in illinois then? [06:00] Hmm, -13C now, -23C forecast low for tonight [06:00] Paladine: I live here. [06:00] they have C over there? [06:00] yeah but what work you doing there? [06:00] MartijnVdS: Not by default, but if you work in science or do anything global... [06:01] ball: .. or are sane ;) [06:01] Paladine: Nothing interesting, sadly. [06:01] MartijnVdS: Exactly ;-) [06:01] http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Bradley&state=IL&site=LOT&lat=41.1472&lon=-87.8557&unit=1 [06:01] ball: last time I was in the US I was surprised at the number of things that have liters on them [06:01] I was supposed to be in Cali on 12-15th of this month, but we cancelled [06:03] Paladine: you didn't want to be frisked by US security? [06:04] no the conference were being cheap about travel/hotel [06:04] they wanted one of our directors but too busy so i was gonna go instead [06:05] still, kinda glad, i have too many trips coming up as it is without flying out to cali and back [06:05] still recovering from Brazil in december [06:06] 5 trips coming up between now and mid march [06:09] shauno: I wish that stupid spider would leave the entrance to my house :/ [06:09] managed to put some torches outside of it though - so its not that bad, just a pain cos they stand next to the trees nearby when it gets light [06:10] spiders are docile in sunlight [06:11] how'd ya mean? [06:11] they don't attack during the day (unless you attack first). it's just at night that they get the munchies [06:12] oh, that'll make so much more sense xD [06:15] make it light again :/ [06:16] shauno: do you use glass at all in your buildings? Or do you find them being randomly destroyed? [06:19] [Jono Bacon] Community Leadership Summit 2011 Announced! - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/02/03/community-leadership-summit-2011-announced/ [06:21] I use a lot of glass. it's pretty fragile, so don't use it anywhere you expect the green dudes to explode [06:21] but I've been digging a large mining shaft straight down, so a glass roof makes lighting it much easier (during the day ..) [06:24] (altho since I discovered TNT, the 'shaft' is more of chasm :D) [06:30] haha [06:31] hmm, any idea how far down you can dig, before you hit water? [06:37] I didn't hit water :) there is unbreakable rock a good ways down tho [06:42] argh! [06:42] damn exploding green zombie things! [06:48] morning all [06:48] morning AlanBell [06:51] o/ Paladine [06:51] yo [06:52] AlanBell: Mornin \o [06:53] hows things AlanBell ? [06:54] not bad, customer meeting this morning then back to the cloud expo at the barbican [06:54] then on to a swanky reception at the design museum [06:55] how are things in the privacy world? [06:55] there was a good panel on the cloud at CPDP conf in brussels last week [06:56] keeping me busy as usual :) [07:00] AlanBell, just launched our new site on thursday so have new blog :) https://www.privacyinternational.org/blogs/alex [07:22] morning :) [07:22] \o/ [07:23] That's one way to start the day TheOpenSourcerer :) [07:24] Been up for 1 1/2hrs already - just about to go and: Get cash, smokes, then some rather tortuous train and tram journeys organised and car parked. [07:24] where are you off to? [07:25] Mitcham, the central london. [07:25] And I need a poo. [07:25] heh [07:25] ttfn. [07:31] morning [07:31] \o livingdaylight [07:35] ~Morning [07:35] user not found [07:35] :( [07:36] its ok, daubers, you do exist really. [07:37] Hooray! [07:38] Need to go to the office and examine a new chassis, see if it'll do for a new product, then head to the open source expo [07:38] How was your trip to the BBC? [07:38] Very productive [07:38] Good good, got a potential contract with them? [07:38] Got a very busy month now building them what they want [07:38] :) [07:39] So looking forward to a weekend away before things get beyond manic [07:41] Cool, hopefully we'll see you on Sunday :) [07:42] \o/ [07:51] ...minecraft is a bad game (addictive-wise) T_T, think its bed time now... morning/nite all [07:51] * HazRPG waves [07:51] wow, if you haven't been to bed yet, its definitely bed time! [07:51] * screen-x is on tomorrow [07:54] guys: sorry to ask a technical question so early in the morning: I have this recurring/persistent/annoying issue with Ubuntu on shutdown/reboot. [07:54] everytime I go to reboot or shutdown I get a dialog informing that a Program is still running... I can't identify the program? I get it even if I've just had a clean reboot and not used any applications yet [07:54] It says: A program is still running: Unknown Not responding - Waiting for the program to finish. Interrupting the program may cause you to lose work. [07:55] Here is output to ps auxww : http://pastebin.com/fK7zmt5c [07:55] livingdaylight: gord suggested that is to do with compiz [07:55] I've got htop running but don't know how to identify the culprit [07:56] screen-x, yes, I remember. I re-installed all compiz in synaptic, but problem persists [07:56] what is the fix? [07:56] (2011-02-03 07:54:47) livingdaylight: It says: A program is still running: Unknown Not responding - Waiting for the program to finish. Interrupting the program may cause you to lose work. <-- is that the exact text of the error message? [07:57] yes [07:59] screen-x, http://img193.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1sz.png/ my desktop with said error dialog [08:00] thank you [08:00] bug 455238 [08:00] Launchpad bug 455238 in tangerine (Ubuntu) "Tangerine blocks session log out" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/455238 [08:03] screen-x, thank you [08:03] * livingdaylight goes to uninstall tangerine [08:05] it still does it! [08:06] I couldn't find a bug related to compiz and logout, but there must be one.. [08:06] poke around launchpad.. [08:07] having removed tangerine, would I need to reboot for changes to take full effect? [08:07] (maybe/hopefully) [08:07] livingdaylight: you may need to kill it. [08:07] uninstalling a package doesn't necessarily kill it's processes. [08:07] i'd happily murder it; how? [08:08] "pkill tangerine" should do it [08:08] or pkill -9 tangerine if that doesn't work. [08:08] haha [08:09] * screen-x wonders what he killed [08:09] (she/it) [08:15] screen-x, thank you... All is well again :) [08:15] livingdaylight: great :) what was the issue in the end? [08:16] tangerine... and it's processes just needed killing off after the removal [08:17] Anyone use AdobeAir? every other day it pops up with an update - amazing [08:18] livingdaylight: maybe you should comment on that bug incase it isn't obvious to other people. [08:19] that a further killing off of tangerine processes is required after removal? [08:19] yep [08:19] ok [08:22] morning all [08:22] done [08:23] czajkowski, haro! [08:23] morning czajkowski :) [08:42] Morning all [08:53] hello all [08:59] hello DJones | MooDoo [09:04] is MooDoo a filter? [09:04] Hang on, Have I been piped into MooDoo ? [09:04] * screen-x decides not to ask what DJones stdout is.. [09:05] * MooDoo shudders [09:06] * DJones judders [09:10] morning [09:10] popey, I assume the new MC tower is your handywork? :) [09:11] Hello, my friend and i want to play chess over the internet, is there any software available? [09:12] drt494245: freechess.org? [09:13] drt494245: you could play irc chess :) http://irc-chess.sourceforge.net/ [09:17] ok [09:21] Mornin all [09:21] wintellect: morning [09:35] Gooooooooooooood morning #ubuntu-uk! [09:35] screen-x: I'm more worried about his stderr [09:36] MartijnVdS: haha [09:36] MartijnVdS: Its not showing is it [09:37] MartijnVdS: but its ok because stderr wasn't redirected. [09:37] screen-x: 2>&1 [09:40] * dwatkins is really beginning to dislike Samba and LDAP [09:41] dwatkins: 't is the path to enlightenment [09:41] MartijnVdS: I wish it were, it's just making my blood boil at the moment, and all I'm trying to do is join a domain :'( [09:41] dwatkins: net join foo? [09:42] MartijnVdS: yeah, tried that, no joy [09:42] The error implies there's a duplicate name on the network, but there ain't. [09:57] dwatkins: maybe it thinks some machine with your machine's name is already in the domain [10:00] yeah, I'm changing the name and trying again, MartijnVdS [10:00] \o/ deed-poll to fix samba problem [10:00] * dwatkins grins [10:01] kazade: me and bigcalm [10:01] I just wish Samba was as easy to use as any old winders machine, and yes I know what I'm saying.... ;) [10:01] kazade: I went to the top of yours and put some stuff there to make a glass walkway [10:01] glass... [10:01] oops [10:01] I started on a wood one! [10:01] :( [10:02] hmm, I'll put glass either side of the wood, we can always replace it later :) [10:02] nvm :) [10:02] it's hard building outwards [10:02] I've died so many times falling off [10:02] hold shift when you walk, you wont fall off [10:02] oh! [10:02] do you know where I can find some lava? [10:04] What are the grey columns in the forests? [10:05] oh, I think they're just a different type of tree. [10:06] i think at this point we need to rename the channel to #minecraft-uk [10:06] I was just thinking the same, gord ;) [10:07] kazade: there's a hot tap [10:07] there is #ubuntu-uk-minecraft :) [10:08] Morning peeps [10:08] pip pip [10:08] hooray! [10:08] pip: error: No command by the name pip pip [10:08] ;) [10:09] nigelb: CP/M [10:09] nigelb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_Interchange_Program [10:09] The program 'pip' can be found in the following packages: * pip * python-pip [10:10] popey, you can't harvest running lava [10:10] I tried :( [10:11] Sounds painful. [10:11] hmm, looking at the map there is some above ground in the snow area [10:11] MartijnVdS: Ah. [10:12] reminds me [10:12] I need to poke my dad to set up his old CP/M machine :) [10:12] MartijnVdS: that won't run minecraft ;-) [10:12] screen-x: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intertec_Superbrain [10:12] screen-x: but it IS cool [10:12] I agree with the cool bit [10:13] its a dual-core iMac :) [10:13] screen-x: from 1979 [10:16] kazade: oh yeah [10:18] Hello. [10:19] hello s-fox [10:19] You've shortened your nick name [10:19] Hello nigelb [10:19] It is for consistency [10:23] I belive folks will find this entertaining. http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2011/02/03/bnp-relocates-to-india-in-bid-to-cut-costs/ [10:26] nigelb: i almost believed it then :) [10:26] MooDoo: hehe [10:29] nigelb: and it wasn't the site that made me curious it was the photo, it looked photoshopped :) [10:29] Thats quite entertaining [10:31] What a horrid thought. I've now been at my job for two years [10:32] Mez: ? [10:32] Mez: I was in my last job for 9 years. [10:32] I'm not too sure what you're asking there. [10:33] sorry might have come in halfway through a conversation :) [10:33] dwatkins: It's more of a point of today is my anniversary here.. [10:33] Mez: congrats :) [10:33] gz, Mez :) [10:33] Mez: oct 1st is my 5 year one :) [10:34] * Mez reflects back over what he's done in the 2 years he's been here. [10:34] * DJones has been in his job for 2 months [10:35] * MooDoo wants a new one :) [11:01] \o/ xdg-open [11:02] * screen-x should have know about that before.. [11:02] MC is very buggy :/ [11:03] half of my bridge has "vanished" so I threw some stone onto where it should be, now I'm watching that stone repeatedly fall, then reappear in front of me, then fall... etc. [11:03] yeah that happens :( [11:03] usually fixed by disconnecting and reconnecting [11:03] exit, reconnect [11:03] yeah, that worked [11:04] you get gaping holes in the map [11:04] I've also noticed that sometimes an entire side of that tower disappears [11:04] yeah, you're on a border between chunks [11:04] how do you start the client? [11:04] and how much ram do you have? :) [11:04] hi all, I'm getting a weird problem [11:04] double-click the jar and um, probs about 2G [11:04] heh [11:05] its a long standing multiplayer bug now [11:05] java -jar -Xmx2048M -Xms2048M -jar foo.jar [11:05] I have a file, I ls it and it's there (complete with execute permissions), I try to execute it and get the error "no such file or directory". Has anyone come across this? I think the filesystem is broken [11:05] its kind of annoying but nothing you can do apart from restart [11:06] kazade: be nice to have a train track between towers :) [11:06] a monorail! :D [11:06] rickogden: ./ ? [11:06] (in the sky) [11:06] screen-x: yes [11:06] rickogden, are you sure the file isn't a script attempting to execute another file that it can't find? [11:06] good idea ;) [11:06] it's a compiled executable [11:06] http://popey.com/minecraft/current_day.png ooo i see it [11:06] rickogden: ldd ? [11:06] kazade: hope ours is a similar level [11:07] popey, yeah, me too! [11:07] screen-x: what do you mean? [11:07] kazade: i counted yours as about 60 blocks high, by counting the windows [11:07] hehe yes that's cool [11:07] that map is old popey [11:07] the bridge is now nearer your tower than mine ;) [11:07] that is one long bridge [11:07] infact, I can't see my tower, but I can see yours [11:07] heh [11:07] (maybe we shouldn't let minecraft talk get in the way of support) =\ [11:07] sorry [11:07] #mc-ubuntu-uk ? [11:07] rickogden: run ldd executable to see if all required libs are there [11:07] :) [11:07] ok will do [11:07] kazade: #ubuntu-uk-minecraft exists [11:09] screen-x: comes up with "not a dynamic executable" [11:09] so it doesn't need any external libs [11:09] nope [11:09] could use strace to see what its trying to open. [11:09] it runs on another very similar machine absolutely fine [11:10] Is there to extract all images from a PDF? [11:10] rickogden, its not adobe air is it? i remember that happening to me with adobe air, never fixed it though [11:10] ^a way [11:10] nope [11:10] it's a small c application [11:10] that runs fine on one machine [11:11] but on the other it doesn't throw an error it claims it doesn't exist when it's executed [11:11] (but it does exist in the filesystem) [11:12] rickogden, can you run "file " [11:12] "launcher: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, not stripped" [11:12] screen-x, there are bunch of cli tools called pdf2 in the repo's they can convert, not sure about extract though [11:12] admittedly it's a 64 bit system, but it runs on the other 64 system fine [11:13] dynamically linked ?? [11:13] weird that file should disagree with ldd [11:14] rickogden, lets make sure you have the 32bit deps installed, to run 32bit applications apt-get install libc6-i386 lib32gcc1 lib32z1 lib32stdc++6 ia32-libs [11:15] gord: looks like I don't, installing now [11:15] ahah! But the other system does! [11:16] gord: I think that's done it, thanks! [11:16] :) [11:17] thanks gord and screen-x :) [11:17] :) [11:18] yay [11:18] back to minecraft ;) [11:19] yay xpdf-utils includes pdfimages, which claimes to be able to extract images from pdfs :) [11:21] I have to say though, what a weird error message [11:21] yeah. Do find and ldd agree about dynamicness now? [11:22]